https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/


Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to work like
normal?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.


Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“ right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.


Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the experimental stage.


Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO


Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug each other again?

Government: NO


Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.


Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO


Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with?

Government: NO


Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero liability regarding this experimental drug


https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

On 19/03/2021 17:54, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like normal?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“ right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug
each other again?

Government: NO


Q:Â* So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.


Q:Â* Are you sure the vaccine wont injure orÂ* kill me?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why
should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q:Â* So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still
unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated
from the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug


https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



infowars? A typical misinformation twisting site.
Get the vaccine, you fool and read a reliable source for your info.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:47:12 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 19/03/2021 17:54, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like normal?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“ right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.


Q:Â* If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug
each other again?

Government: NO


Q:Â* So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.


Q:Â* Are you sure the vaccine wont injure orÂ* kill me?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why
should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q:Â* So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO


Q:Â* If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still
unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated
from the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug


https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



infowars? A typical misinformation twisting site.
Get the vaccine, you fool and read a reliable source for your info.

If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).

On 3/19/2021 3:39 PM, wrote:


If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).


Must have watched a different episode. I saw Paul interrupting Fauci as
he tried to explain the reason and the varients that may or may not be
protected.

Rand Paul just wanted to show off and be a bully.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 15:58:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/19/2021 3:39 PM, wrote:


If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).


Must have watched a different episode. I saw Paul interrupting Fauci as
he tried to explain the reason and the varients that may or may not be
protected.

Rand Paul just wanted to show off and be a bully.

I saw Fauci telling us they don't know, over and over again about
everything.
Will they ever know enough to say it is 100% safe and will he get away
from the hysteria before then?
At a certain point we need the information to take a calculated risk
and isn't life just a series of calculated risks anyway?
We are quickly reaching the point that driving to the restaurant is
more dangerous than going in, mask or not.
The question Paul asked is, if your are vaccinated, why aren't you
safe and it is a good question. If not, why get the shot?

On 3/19/2021 10:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 15:58:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/19/2021 3:39 PM, wrote:


If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).


Must have watched a different episode. I saw Paul interrupting Fauci as
he tried to explain the reason and the varients that may or may not be
protected.

Rand Paul just wanted to show off and be a bully.

I saw Fauci telling us they don't know, over and over again about
everything.
Will they ever know enough to say it is 100% safe and will he get away
from the hysteria before then?
At a certain point we need the information to take a calculated risk
and isn't life just a series of calculated risks anyway?
We are quickly reaching the point that driving to the restaurant is
more dangerous than going in, mask or not.
The question Paul asked is, if your are vaccinated, why aren't you
safe and it is a good question. If not, why get the shot?


Every time Fauci tried to explain about the variants Paul cut him off.
He asked questions but did not want to hear answers, he wanted to make
his own statement.

https://tinyurl.com/336xnms7

Paul comes across as an arrogant politician that wants to show how smart
he is.

wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 15:58:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/19/2021 3:39 PM, wrote:


If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).


Must have watched a different episode. I saw Paul interrupting Fauci as
he tried to explain the reason and the varients that may or may not be
protected.

Rand Paul just wanted to show off and be a bully.

I saw Fauci telling us they don't know,
over and over again about everything.

Another bare faced lie. He never said that they
don't know about the effect of the vaccines on
the severity of the disease if you get infected.

Will they ever know enough to say it is 100% safe

Nothing ever is. What matters is whether it's
a lot safer than getting infect by the virus when
not vaccinated and we already know that.

and will he get away from the hysteria before then?

More of your flagrant dishonest, your trademark.

At a certain point we need the information to take a calculated risk

We have that already, from the phase 3 trials.

and isn't life just a series of calculated risks anyway?

Yes but for some odd reason we do vaccinate extensively
to reduce the risk of the downsides with that disease.

We are quickly reaching the point that driving to the
restaurant is more dangerous than going in, mask or not.

BULL****.

The question Paul asked is, if your are vaccinated, why aren't
you safe and it is a good question. If not, why get the shot?

Because we know that it radically reduces the effect
of the disease if you get infected and likely will
radically reduce the risk of getting infected too, ****wit.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 10:53:14 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 15:58:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/19/2021 3:39 PM, wrote:


If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).


Must have watched a different episode. I saw Paul interrupting Fauci as
he tried to explain the reason and the varients that may or may not be
protected.

Rand Paul just wanted to show off and be a bully.
I saw Fauci telling us they don't know, over and over again about
everything.
Will they ever know enough to say it is 100% safe and will he get away
from the hysteria before then?

Nothing is 100% safe. My last tetanus booster was not 100% safe.

At a certain point we need the information to take a calculated risk
and isn't life just a series of calculated risks anyway?
We are quickly reaching the point that driving to the restaurant is
more dangerous than going in, mask or not.
The question Paul asked is, if your are vaccinated, why aren't you
safe and it is a good question. If not, why get the shot?

If you are vaccinated, the chance of serious illness or death is much
reduced. It's a calculated risk.

I get my first dose of Moderna today.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 10:53:14 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 15:58:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/19/2021 3:39 PM, wrote:


If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).


Must have watched a different episode. I saw Paul interrupting Fauci as
he tried to explain the reason and the varients that may or may not be
protected.

Rand Paul just wanted to show off and be a bully.
I saw Fauci telling us they don't know, over and over again about
everything.
Will they ever know enough to say it is 100% safe

Cite for us the drugs that "they" say are 100% safe. Why must that be the
standard in the midst of a pandemic, with 550K dead so far, in just one year?



and will he get away
from the hysteria before then?

You should be focused on getting away from your hysteria.



At a certain point we need the information to take a calculated risk
and isn't life just a series of calculated risks anyway?

We have a lot of good information right now. The sad thing is that there
are a lot of people that won't accept it or worse, totally twist it, misrepresent it,
turn it into FUD. Mostly Trumpets of course. Something like 40% of Republicans
say they won't get the vaccine, more like 50% among people who supported
Trump. That's a very good example why your claim that Trump is gone, he
doesn't matter anymore, there is no damage still with us, etc is baloney.



We are quickly reaching the point that driving to the restaurant is
more dangerous than going in, mask or not.
The question Paul asked is, if your are vaccinated, why aren't you
safe and it is a good question. If not, why get the shot?


I'm with Jim, what's the point in engaging with you when it's all been explained
to you ten times already, but you still come back, posing the same questions
all over again.

On 3/19/21 3:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/19/2021 3:39 PM, wrote:


If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).


Must have watched a different episode.Â* I saw Paul interrupting Fauci as he tried to explain the reason and the varients that may or may not be protected.

Rand Paul just wanted to show off and be a bully.


Rand Paul was just correcting FonyFauci's bull****.Â* Calling Rand a "bully" makes you sound like a purple-haired snowflake.

On Saturday, March 20, 2021 at 5:49:52 AM UTC-4, jimmy wrote:
On 3/19/21 3:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/19/2021 3:39 PM, wrote:


If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).


Must have watched a different episode. I saw Paul interrupting Fauci as he tried to explain the reason and the varients that may or may not be protected.

Rand Paul just wanted to show off and be a bully.
Rand Paul was just correcting FonyFauci's bull****. Calling Rand a "bully" makes you sound like a purple-haired snowflake.

Ok, boomer.

Cindy Hamilton

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:47:12 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 19/03/2021 17:54, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like normal?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.


Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“
right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.


Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.


Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO


Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug
each other again?

Government: NO


Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.


Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO


Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why
should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO


Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still
unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated
from the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug


https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



infowars? A typical misinformation twisting site.
Get the vaccine, you fool and read a reliable source for your info.

If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?

I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span.

Like hell you did, liar.

(that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).

On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 08:48:50 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
John addressing the senile Australian pest:
"You are a complete idiot. But you make me larf. LOL"
MID:

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 3:39:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:47:12 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 19/03/2021 17:54, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like normal?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.


Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“ right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.


Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.


Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO


Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug
each other again?

Government: NO


Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.


Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO


Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why
should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO


Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still
unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated
from the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug


https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



infowars? A typical misinformation twisting site.
Get the vaccine, you fool and read a reliable source for your info.
If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).

You really are Qanon/Alex Jones nuts. Incredible that you'd ask what's wrong
with all that BS after it's all been explained to you here many times now,
point by point. So listen to Alex Jones, don't get vaccinated, it's worthless.
Don't protect yourself, don't help the rest of humanity by stamping this out
before it mutates more into something far worse. We'll see how that works
out for you. And in the meantime don't claim to us that you're not another
anti-vax nut.

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 3:39:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:47:12 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 19/03/2021 17:54, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like normal?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.


Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“
right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.


Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.


Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO


Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we
hug
each other again?

Government: NO


Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.


Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO


Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why
should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO


Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still
unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated
from the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug


https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/



infowars? A typical misinformation twisting site.
Get the vaccine, you fool and read a reliable source for your info.
If you can't attack the message, shoot the messenger.
Why didn't you tell us what part was wrong?
I just saw Fauci tell Rand Paul all of those things the other day on
C-Span. (that is live congress TV, not some opinion network).

You really are Qanon/Alex Jones nuts.

Nope, he is in fact getting vaccinated.

Incredible that you'd ask what's wrong with all
that BS after it's all been explained to you here
many times now, point by point. So listen to
Alex Jones, don't get vaccinated, it's worthless.

He is in fact getting vaccinated.

Don't protect yourself, don't help the rest of humanity by
stamping this out before it mutates more into something
far worse. We'll see how that works out for you. And in the
meantime don't claim to us that you're not another anti-vax nut.

Corse he isnt if he is getting vaccinated.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine. Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year. I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong. The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“ right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.

It reduces transmission.

Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the experimental stage.

Which is true of every new vaccine.

Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO

Who cares? I don't want to get close to anybody but my husband.

Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug each other again?

Government: NO

Another big slug of indifference.

Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.

So if you contract COVID-19, it won't be as severe, and you won't
be as infectious.

Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO

Any vaccine has that possibility. Yet we all got the smallpox vaccine
and others.

Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with?

Government: NO

Nothing is 100%.

Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero liability regarding this experimental drug

Just like any other vaccine administered to millions of people
every single year.

Cindy Hamilton

" wrote in message
...
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine. Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year. I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong. The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Those are the numbers for avoiding serious disease, not for getting
infected.

Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“ right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.

It reduces transmission.

Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.

Which is true of every new vaccine.

Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO

Who cares? I don't want to get close to anybody but my husband.

Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug
each other again?

Government: NO

Another big slug of indifference.

Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.

So if you contract COVID-19, it won't be as severe, and you won't
be as infectious.

Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO

Any vaccine has that possibility. Yet we all got the smallpox vaccine
and others.

Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why
should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact
with?

Government: NO

Nothing is 100%.

Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still
unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated
from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug

Just like any other vaccine administered to millions of people
every single year.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 3:07:37 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
" wrote in message
...
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine. Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year. I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong. The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.
Those are the numbers for avoiding serious disease, not for getting
infected.

That's wrong. The effectiveness was measured by people being diagnosed
as having Covid, not for having serious disease. If the test subjects came down
with Covid symptoms they were examined by doctors and tested for Covid.
They did not have to present with "serious disease" to be counted, only symptomatic Covid.

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 3:07:37 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
" wrote in message
...
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine. Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year. I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong. The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Those are the numbers for avoiding serious
disease, not for getting infected.

That's wrong.

Nope, thats what the Phase 3 trials measured and thats
where those numbers came from. They havent measure
the effectiveness of preventing infection by the virus yet,
that measurement is being done now and we dont have
the numbers yet.

The effectiveness was measured by people being diagnosed
as having Covid, not for having serious disease.

Wrong, as always.

If the test subjects came down with Covid symptoms
they were examined by doctors and tested for Covid.
They did not have to present with "serious disease"
to be counted, only symptomatic Covid.

Wrong, as always. That may well be what your
media has told you, but its just plain wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#Efficacy
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...075-X/fulltext

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 03:39:45 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
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"You are a complete idiot. But you make me larf. LOL"
MID:

On Saturday, March 20, 2021 at 12:39:57 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 3:07:37 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
" wrote in message
...
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine. Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year. I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong. The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Those are the numbers for avoiding serious
disease, not for getting infected.

That's wrong.
Nope, thats what the Phase 3 trials measured and thats
where those numbers came from. They havent measure
the effectiveness of preventing infection by the virus yet,
that measurement is being done now and we dont have
the numbers yet.
The effectiveness was measured by people being diagnosed
as having Covid, not for having serious disease.
Wrong, as always.

Just like always, just like Trump and Fretwell. Get it wrong and then just
keep doubling down on it. I read the Pfizer trial document that was submitted
to FDA for approval. The effectiveness number was not based on "serious disease".
It was measured on how many of the people who
were vaccinated wound up DIAGNOSED with Covid, regardless of the severity,
compared to the control group. It was ~95% effective in reducing the number
diagnosed with Covid. Further, other studies, eg Israel have confirmed that.
And if the metric is "serious Covid", then the effectiveness is even higher..




If the test subjects came down with Covid symptoms
they were examined by doctors and tested for Covid.
They did not have to present with "serious disease"
to be counted, only symptomatic Covid.
Wrong, as always. That may well be what your
media has told you, but its just plain wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#Efficacy


Thanks for confirming that you don't know WTF you're talking about. From your
own reference:

"The effectiveness of a new vaccine is defined by its efficacy during clinical trials.[140] The efficacy is the risk of getting the disease by vaccinated participants in the trial compared with the risk of getting the disease by unvaccinated participants.

In efficacy calculations, symptomatic COVID-19 is generally defined as having both a positive PCR test and at least one or two of a defined list of COVID-19 symptoms, although exact specifications varying between trials. "



Exactly what I said. It doesn't say what you said, which is that it's measured by reduction
in "serious cases". Further, if you look at the table, it says for the Moderna vaccine,
if the metric is "serious disease", then the efficacy is close to 100%.

Feel free to man up and admit you got it wrong, or continue to do what the losers do,
lie and deny.

On 3/19/2021 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine. Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year. I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong. The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“ right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.

It reduces transmission.

Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the experimental stage.

Which is true of every new vaccine.

Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO

Who cares? I don't want to get close to anybody but my husband.

Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug each other again?

Government: NO

Another big slug of indifference.

Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.

So if you contract COVID-19, it won't be as severe, and you won't
be as infectious.

Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO

Any vaccine has that possibility. Yet we all got the smallpox vaccine
and others.

Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with?

Government: NO

Nothing is 100%.

Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero liability regarding this experimental drug

Just like any other vaccine administered to millions of people
every single year.

Cindy Hamilton



Actually, they are all close to 100% effective on avoiding
hospitalization or death.

On 3/19/2021 8:51 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 3/19/2021 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/


And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering
getting vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine.Â* Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back
to work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year.Â* I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong.Â* The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“
right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.

It reduces transmission.

Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.

Which is true of every new vaccine.

Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO

Who cares?Â* I don't want to get close to anybody but my husband.

Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we
hug each other again?

Government: NO

Another big slug of indifference.
Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.

So if you contract COVID-19, it won't be as severe, and you won't
be as infectious.

Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO

Any vaccine has that possibility.Â* Yet we all got the smallpox vaccine
and others.

Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate),
why should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO

Nothing is 100%.

Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects
(still unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be
compensated from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug

Just like any other vaccine administered to millions of people
every single year.

Cindy Hamilton



Actually, they are all close to 100% effective on avoiding
hospitalization or death.


Yes, an important consideration. People have been in the hospital and
on ventilators for long periods so just eliminating that is a big factor.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
On 3/19/2021 8:51 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 3/19/2021 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine. Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year. I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong. The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“
right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.

It reduces transmission.

Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.

Which is true of every new vaccine.

Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO

Who cares? I don't want to get close to anybody but my husband.

Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug
each other again?

Government: NO

Another big slug of indifference.
Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.

So if you contract COVID-19, it won't be as severe, and you won't
be as infectious.

Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO

Any vaccine has that possibility. Yet we all got the smallpox vaccine
and others.

Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why
should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO

Nothing is 100%.

Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still
unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated
from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug

Just like any other vaccine administered to millions of people
every single year.

Cindy Hamilton



Actually, they are all close to 100% effective on avoiding
hospitalization or death.


Yes, an important consideration. People have been in the hospital and on
ventilators for long periods so just eliminating that is a big factor.

And there is now some evidence that those with long covid
are do considerably better after being vaccinated too.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:59:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 3/19/2021 8:51 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 3/19/2021 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/


And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering
getting vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine.* Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back
to work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year.* I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We don’t know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong.* The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I won’t be contagious to others –
right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission.

It reduces transmission.

Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.

Which is true of every new vaccine.

Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO

Who cares?* I don't want to get close to anybody but my husband.

Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we
hug each other again?

Government: NO

Another big slug of indifference.
Q: So what’s the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus won’t kill you.

So if you contract COVID-19, it won't be as severe, and you won't
be as infectious.

Q: Are you sure the vaccine won’t injure or kill me?

Government: NO

Any vaccine has that possibility.* Yet we all got the smallpox vaccine
and others.

Q: If statistically the virus won’t kill me (99.7% survival rate),
why should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO

Nothing is 100%.

Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects
(still unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be
compensated from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO – the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug

Just like any other vaccine administered to millions of people
every single year.

Cindy Hamilton



Actually, they are all close to 100% effective on avoiding
hospitalization or death.

You know, I think not sure, that sometimes they say hospitalization, but
other times they just say ICU.


Yes, an important consideration. People have been in the hospital and
on ventilators for long periods so just eliminating that is a big factor.

Guy on the radio today, 35 years old, in good health before this I
think, spent 6 months in the hospital with covid, and finally got a
double lung transplant. Now he's starting to feel much better.

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
On 3/19/2021 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Oliver George wrote:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

And you still cannot differentiate a credible source from pure crap.

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting
vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO

Fine. Wearing a mask is not onerous.

Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness
clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to
work like
normal?

Government: NO

I've been working unvaccinated all year. I'll be happy for everybody
at my office to be vacinnated.

Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We dont know exactly, but probably not.

That's wrong. The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%.

Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I wont be contagious to others €“
right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesnt stop transmission.

It reduces transmission.

Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the
experimental stage.

Which is true of every new vaccine.

Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO

Who cares? I don't want to get close to anybody but my husband.

Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug
each other again?

Government: NO

Another big slug of indifference.

Q: So whats the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus wont kill you.

So if you contract COVID-19, it won't be as severe, and you won't
be as infectious.

Q: Are you sure the vaccine wont injure or kill me?

Government: NO

Any vaccine has that possibility. Yet we all got the smallpox vaccine
and others.

Q: If statistically the virus wont kill me (99.7% survival rate), why
should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in
contact with?

Government: NO

Nothing is 100%.

Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still
unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated
from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO €“ the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero
liability regarding this experimental drug

Just like any other vaccine administered to millions of people
every single year.

Cindy Hamilton



Actually, they are all close to 100% effective on avoiding hospitalization
or death.

Thats less clear with the russian, chinese and indian vaccines.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 12:58:54 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Actually, they are all close to 100% effective on avoiding hospitalization
or death.

That¢s less clear with the russian, chinese and indian vaccines.

Why do you say that, you depraved auto-contradicting senile Australian
asshole? Actually, those are known to be at least as effective!

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:54:11 -0400, Oliver George
wrote:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/


Infowars.

Here's a few more important questiosn they didn't include:

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to get sick?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to need a hospital?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to get sent to the Intensive
Care Unit?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to die?

Yes. 100,000 times more likely. Probably a million times.

If I don't get vaccinated and I don't die, am I more likely to have new
long-term health problems?

Yes. As much as a 33% chance of that.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to make my family and
friends sick?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to send some of my family
and friends to the hospital?

Yes. At least the ones too stupid to have gotten vaccinated.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to send some of my family
and friends to the ICU?

Yes. At least the ones too stupid to have gotten vaccinated.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to kill some of my family
and friends?

Yes. At least the ones too stupid to have gotten vaccinated.

If I don't get vaccinated, will most people think I'm stupid?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, will they be right?

Yes.




Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting vaccinated:


Q: If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to work like
normal?

Government: NO


Q: If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?

Government: Maybe. We don’t know exactly, but probably not.


Q: If I get vaccinated, at least I won’t be contagious to others – right?

Government: NO. the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission.


Q: If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?

Government: No one knows. All Covid vaccines are still in the experimental stage.


Q: If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government: NO


Q: If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug each other again?

Government: NO


Q: So what’s the benefit of getting vaccinated?

Government: Hoping that the virus won’t kill you.


Q: Are you sure the vaccine won’t injure or kill me?

Government: NO


Q: If statistically the virus won’t kill me (99.7% survival rate), why should I get vaccinated?

Government: To protect others.


Q: So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with?

Government: NO


Q: If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still unknown) or die from the vaccine, will I (or my family) be compensated from
the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?

Government: NO – the government and vaccine manufacturers have zero liability regarding this experimental drug


https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:53:38 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:54:11 -0400, Oliver George
wrote:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-...-hoax-forever/


Infowars.

Here's a few more important questiosn they didn't include:

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to get sick?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to need a hospital?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to get sent to the Intensive
Care Unit?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to die?

Yes. 100,000 times more likely. Probably a million times.

If I don't get vaccinated and I don't die, am I more likely to have new
long-term health problems?

Yes. As much as a 33% chance of that.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to make my family and
friends sick?

Yes.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to send some of my family
and friends to the hospital?

Yes. At least the ones too stupid to have gotten vaccinated.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to send some of my family
and friends to the ICU?

Yes. At least the ones too stupid to have gotten vaccinated.

If I don't get vaccinated, am I more likely to kill some of my family
and friends?

Yes. At least the ones too stupid to have gotten vaccinated.


You missed the point Fauci and his gang said. The vaccine is not
proven to reduce transmission so you are not protecting others.

Cindy just said this about it protecting you.

"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.
I am doing the Pfizer Sunday but mostly because it was free and easy.
I am not convinced it is going to improve my life much if I still need
to wear a mask and avoid seeing people according to the government.
I am only lucky that my state is not run by the Branch Covidian cult
and we can get out and do things if we want. The results still have us
in the middle of the pack in spite of a very high median age, lots of
outsiders coming and going and nothing really closed.
States like California struggle to explain it and CNN is just
gobsmacked by it.

writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.

"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message
...
writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus.

Corse you can when the virus is roughly evenly spread
amongst the population with no evidence that those
where the virus is much less commonly seen behave
any differently to a virus infection.

So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%,

No it isnt. I tiny handful do get killed by the vaccine.

Far fewer than get killed by the virus, but still not 0 with any vaccine.

as even if one does get the virus after vaccination,
the symptoms are significantly milder, if even detectable.

That’s a different issue to being killed by the virus.

"Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet."

https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

--
Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:24:06 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.

If Fauci had said that Paul would not have had much more to say

Why are we still running scared even after vaccination?

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:58:59 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:24:06 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.
If Fauci had said that Paul would not have had much more to say

Why are we still running scared even after vaccination?

Because Fauci gets invited places if we're scared of the virus.

"The Federal Government is exploiting public fear to redefine the relationship between the rulers and the American people. "
James Bovard

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:24:06 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are
significantly
milder, if even detectable.

If Fauci had said that Paul would not have had much more to say

More bull****. Paul was always going to rabbit on about
very little reinfection, ignoring that we know that's a lie
with particularly the more virulent south african variant.

Why are we still running scared even after vaccination?

No one is running scared. It does make sense to continue
with masks until it becomes clear that the vaccines do
prevent infection with the more virulent strains which
do not have specific vaccines developed for yet.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 10:58:59 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:24:06 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.
If Fauci had said that Paul would not have had much more to say

Did Rand Paul ask that specific question? You know how this works, right? Senators
ask the questions, the person appearing answers them. People appearing also
figure that Senators, especially ones that are doctors, should be at least as well
informed already as the public. When it comes to Rand Paul, I guess that was a
mistake. Either he's willfully ignorant or trying to twist, distort and BS around,
which, IMO, is the more likely problem.




Why are we still running scared even after vaccination?

IDK, because people like you, Alex Jones, Qanon and Rand Paul are spreading FUD?
And who exactly is running scared? I'm not scared.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Mar 2021 22:58:29 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:24:06 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.

If Fauci had said that Paul would not have had much more to say

Why are we still running scared even after vaccination?

Because even the best vaccine is only 95% effective and it's still not
known how much vaccinated people (not only don't get symptoms but) don't
get infectious** so they can infect others. There's a lot of evidence
that they resist even getting the infection, but they don't have good
numbers yet, and unless the number was very high, unless 80 or 90% who
don't get infectious, that is still enough to continue to spread the
disease and infect whatever unvaccinated people there are, who risk ICU
and death. And that's the sort of thing public health workers care
about.

There must be web pages that discuss disease transmission of
communicable diseases, which I think is the major aspect of
epidemiology. Reading 5 or 10 screens about that could be
enlightening. There is a lot of arithmetic in it I'm sure.
Multiplication especially.


**I'm using "infectious" because of an earlier misunderstanding we had
here. One of us used "sick" to mean showing symptoms and the other used
the word to also include infected. I think I was the second one and I
never posted an even better example. If someone T has typhoid but no
symptoms, but people can still catch typhoid from T and then die, is T
not sick? I say T is sick, even without symptoms.

But it was also reasonable to use it to mean only people who have
symptoms. That's what the meaning often is, sick meaning showing
symptoms, like vomiting, fever, etc. Without that someone's not sick.

Because these are two meanings of the same word.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:24:06 GMT,
(Scott Lurndal) wrote:

writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.

The short answer is that Scott is right.

Greg, you know consciously or deep down how you want it to come out, so
you find "arguments" to make it come out that way, but you're making an
inapplicable argument here.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 4:24:11 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.
You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

+1

AFAIK, the 99.7% number is BS to begin with. Over 2% of those diagnosed with Covid
have died. There are undiagnosed cases that will bring that down, but I think
his 0.3% number is highly suspect and probably came from the usual place.


Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.

IDK if it's 100%, but it does appear to be a couple orders of magnitude better
than without being vaccinated. Which of course is fantastic for any reasonable,
intelligent persons. But the nothing would be good enough for the anti-vax,
conspiracy nuts.

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Mar 2021 05:32:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 4:24:11 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.
You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

+1

AFAIK, the 99.7% number is BS to begin with. Over 2% of those diagnosed with Covid

Yes. I didn't even notice that. All I noticed is that that number and
the other two are mostly unrelated. I guess, because I read Scott's
answer first and he pointed that out.

But, yes, about 2% have died. Compared to the number that die from the
flu which is iirc 0.1%. And compared to the number given, 0.3%, it's
more than 6 times as many as that number.

have died. There are undiagnosed cases that will bring that down, but I think
his 0.3% number is highly suspect and probably came from the usual place.


Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.

IDK if it's 100%, but it does appear to be a couple orders of magnitude better
than without being vaccinated. Which of course is fantastic for any reasonable,
intelligent persons. But the nothing would be good enough for the anti-vax,
conspiracy nuts.