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The old pot metal split ends for push-on style knob for the oven
timer/clock finally broke leaving the end of the 1/8" OD shaft. As it is obsolete and no longer available and the oven/ragne itself is also of a style no longer produced that do not want to give up, the need is to be able to repair... It's long enough stub that if could find a crimp-style butt connector, think could manufacture a replacement split shaft or cut the end off a sacrificial product and attach for the knob to push on to... I'm not thinking of right search terms to be finding anything that meets my idea...have some old telephone wire nicopress that are just a little too small... Or, other ideas also welcomed... -- |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 13:54:41 -0500, dpb wrote:
The old pot metal split ends for push-on style knob for the oven timer/clock finally broke leaving the end of the 1/8" OD shaft. As it is obsolete and no longer available and the oven/ragne itself is also of a style no longer produced that do not want to give up, the need is to be able to repair... It's long enough stub that if could find a crimp-style butt connector, think could manufacture a replacement split shaft or cut the end off a sacrificial product and attach for the knob to push on to... I'm not thinking of right search terms to be finding anything that meets my idea...have some old telephone wire nicopress that are just a little too small... Or, other ideas also welcomed... The metal post broke ? I've seen the old plastic knobs crack at the insertion point .. from heat & age & cheapness. John T. |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 13:54:41 -0500, dpb wrote:
The old pot metal split ends for push-on style knob for the oven timer/clock finally broke leaving the end of the 1/8" OD shaft. As it is obsolete and no longer available and the oven/ragne itself is also of a style no longer produced that do not want to give up, the need is to be able to repair... It's long enough stub that if could find a crimp-style butt connector, think could manufacture a replacement split shaft or cut the end off a sacrificial product and attach for the knob to push on to... I'm not thinking of right search terms to be finding anything that meets my idea...have some old telephone wire nicopress that are just a little too small... Or, other ideas also welcomed... If you are not in love with that particular knob you could get a 1/8x1/4" bushing, epoxy it on the shaft and use a set screw type 1/4" knob. There are plenty of styles in that category |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 13:54:41 -0500, dpb wrote:
The old pot metal split ends for push-on style knob for the oven timer/clock finally broke leaving the end of the 1/8" OD shaft. As it is obsolete and no longer available and the oven/ragne itself is also of a style no longer produced that do not want to give up, the need is to be able to repair... It's long enough stub that if could find a crimp-style butt connector, think could manufacture a replacement split shaft or cut the end off a sacrificial product and attach for the knob to push on to... I'm not thinking of right search terms to be finding anything that meets my idea...have some old telephone wire nicopress that are just a little too small... Or, other ideas also welcomed... The metal post broke ? I've seen the old plastic knobs crack at the insertion point .. from heat & age & cheapness. John T. Yes...it's the style with a kerf down the middle of end of shaft leaving the two semi-circular halves...one half had been broken off for quite some time, finally the other gave way, too... Of course, it's really cheap/weak metal shaft so it's not like it's all that much torque to twist as there's very little cross-sectional area left. The knob itself is just fine... |
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On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On Fri, 3 May 2019 13:54:41 -0500, dpb wrote: The old pot metal split ends for push-on style knob for the oven timer/clock finally broke leaving the end of the 1/8" OD shaft. As it is obsolete and no longer available and the oven/ragne itself is also of a style no longer produced that do not want to give up, the need is to be able to repair... It's long enough stub that if could find a crimp-style butt connector, think could manufacture a replacement split shaft or cut the end off a sacrificial product and attach for the knob to push on to... I'm not thinking of right search terms to be finding anything that meets my idea...have some old telephone wire nicopress that are just a little too small... Or, other ideas also welcomed... The metal post broke ? I've seen the old plastic knobs crack at the insertion point .. from heat & age & cheapness. John T. Yes...it's the style with a kerf down the middle of end of shaft leaving the two semi-circular halves...one half had been broken off for quite some time, finally the other gave way, too... Of course, it's really cheap/weak metal shaft so it's not like it's all that much torque to twist as there's very little cross-sectional area left. The knob itself is just fine... How about a piece of copper tubing or similar that will slip over it? Then maybe drill a larger hole in the knob to receive it, together with glue? You'd probably have to break it if you ever need to get it off, but given the choices, I could live with that. I suppose if you have numbered drills and can size it right, you could get it so that the knob would press fit on tight enough, maybe with just a tiny bit of glue? |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 17:30:43 -0500, dpb wrote:
On Fri, 3 May 2019 13:54:41 -0500, dpb wrote: The old pot metal split ends for push-on style knob for the oven timer/clock finally broke leaving the end of the 1/8" OD shaft. As it is obsolete and no longer available and the oven/ragne itself is also of a style no longer produced that do not want to give up, the need is to be able to repair... It's long enough stub that if could find a crimp-style butt connector, think could manufacture a replacement split shaft or cut the end off a sacrificial product and attach for the knob to push on to... I'm not thinking of right search terms to be finding anything that meets my idea...have some old telephone wire nicopress that are just a little too small... Or, other ideas also welcomed... The metal post broke ? I've seen the old plastic knobs crack at the insertion point .. from heat & age & cheapness. John T. Yes...it's the style with a kerf down the middle of end of shaft leaving the two semi-circular halves...one half had been broken off for quite some time, finally the other gave way, too... Of course, it's really cheap/weak metal shaft so it's not like it's all that much torque to twist as there's very little cross-sectional area left. The knob itself is just fine... What type of control is it? Can you point us to a picture? Is this the part that adjusts the clock? What brand stove/oven? Can the shaft be readily removed from the timer? Are you sure it''s pot metal? Zinc or aluminum? definitely not ferrous? |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 17:30:43 -0500, dpb wrote:
.... Yes...it's the style with a kerf down the middle of end of shaft leaving the two semi-circular halves...one half had been broken off for quite some time, finally the other gave way, too... Of course, it's really cheap/weak metal shaft so it's not like it's all that much torque to twist as there's very little cross-sectional area left. The knob itself is just fine... What type of control is it? Can you point us to a picture? Is this the part that adjusts the clock? What brand stove/oven? Can the shaft be readily removed from the timer? Are you sure it''s pot metal? Zinc or aluminum? definitely not ferrous? A) Clock/timer functions B) I've not found any; have to take one a post link...tomorrow, maybe. C) Yes, and all the timed operation functions and timer D) mid-80s GE -- specific parts unavailable(*) D) "Readily?" probably not. Theoretically possible? Maybe... E) Yes/Not Al/Yes (*) In past there's been listed alternate electronic module altho I've not checked whether it's still available or not. -- |
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On 5/3/2019 6:17 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote: .... The metal post broke ? I've seen the old plastic knobs crack at the insertion point .. from heat & age & cheapness. John T. Yes...it's the style with a kerf down the middle of end of shaft leaving the two semi-circular halves...one half had been broken off for quite some time, finally the other gave way, too... Of course, it's really cheap/weak metal shaft so it's not like it's all that much torque to twist as there's very little cross-sectional area left. The knob itself is just fine... How about a piece of copper tubing or similar that will slip over it? .... Well, that was my idea...excepting I'm finding nothing of suitable ID/OD for the sleeve which is the Q? ... -- |
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On Sat, 4 May 2019 00:44:54 -0500, dpb wrote:
On Fri, 3 May 2019 17:30:43 -0500, dpb wrote: ... Yes...it's the style with a kerf down the middle of end of shaft leaving the two semi-circular halves...one half had been broken off for quite some time, finally the other gave way, too... Of course, it's really cheap/weak metal shaft so it's not like it's all that much torque to twist as there's very little cross-sectional area left. The knob itself is just fine... What type of control is it? Can you point us to a picture? Is this the part that adjusts the clock? What brand stove/oven? Can the shaft be readily removed from the timer? Are you sure it''s pot metal? Zinc or aluminum? definitely not ferrous? A) Clock/timer functions B) I've not found any; have to take one a post link...tomorrow, maybe. C) Yes, and all the timed operation functions and timer D) mid-80s GE -- specific parts unavailable(*) D) "Readily?" probably not. Theoretically possible? Maybe... E) Yes/Not Al/Yes (*) In past there's been listed alternate electronic module altho I've not checked whether it's still available or not. Provide actual model number please. |
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On Sat, 4 May 2019 09:37:24 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/3/2019 6:17 PM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote: ... The metal post broke ? I've seen the old plastic knobs crack at the insertion point .. from heat & age & cheapness. John T. Yes...it's the style with a kerf down the middle of end of shaft leaving the two semi-circular halves...one half had been broken off for quite some time, finally the other gave way, too... Of course, it's really cheap/weak metal shaft so it's not like it's all that much torque to twist as there's very little cross-sectional area left. The knob itself is just fine... How about a piece of copper tubing or similar that will slip over it? ... Well, that was my idea...excepting I'm finding nothing of suitable ID/OD for the sleeve which is the Q? ... solid brass - drill to fit - or solid aluminum drill to fit, or tube of either with too small ID and drill to fit. |
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On 5/4/2019 11:48 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 4 May 2019 00:44:54 -0500, dpb wrote: .... What type of control is it? Can you point us to a picture? Is this the part that adjusts the clock? What brand stove/oven? Can the shaft be readily removed from the timer? Are you sure it''s pot metal? Zinc or aluminum? definitely not ferrous? A) Clock/timer functions B) I've not found any; have to take one a post link...tomorrow, maybe. C) Yes, and all the timed operation functions and timer D) mid-80s GE -- specific parts unavailable(*) D) "Readily?" probably not. Theoretically possible? Maybe... E) Yes/Not Al/Yes (*) In past there's been listed alternate electronic module altho I've not checked whether it's still available or not. Provide actual model number please. GE JBV42G I did go ahead and order one of the electronic replacement modules just to have on hand if all else fails while they're still available...ordered the magnetron some time back to stick on shelf--the unique item with these ranges is the microwave is the full-size oven itself and the kitchen in the old farm house simply has no room to put a free-standing microwave...so, having that feature that is no longer available by any manufacturer is _a_big_deal_ in keeping it. -- |
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On 5/4/2019 11:49 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 4 May 2019 09:37:24 -0500, dpb wrote: On 5/3/2019 6:17 PM, trader_4 wrote: .... How about a piece of copper tubing or similar that will slip over it? ... Well, that was my idea...excepting I'm finding nothing of suitable ID/OD for the sleeve which is the Q? ... solid brass - drill to fit - or solid aluminum drill to fit, or tube of either with too small ID and drill to fit. If had milling or lathe facilities, yes... If could find something suitable OD already pre-drilled even smaller, yes, that might be do-able; but so far haven't found the magic part... Altho, actually, a Nicopress #10 SWG might be just the ticket...have to go rummage around and see what's left from the days we used to have to keep up our own phone line to connect to main switchboard in town... -- |
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On Sat, 4 May 2019 12:41:11 -0500, dpb wrote:
? That timer was problematic - the replacement electronic timer is an excellent way to keep the unique oven functional for years to come. |
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On Sat, 4 May 2019 13:22:32 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/4/2019 11:49 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2019 09:37:24 -0500, dpb wrote: On 5/3/2019 6:17 PM, trader_4 wrote: ... How about a piece of copper tubing or similar that will slip over it? ... Well, that was my idea...excepting I'm finding nothing of suitable ID/OD for the sleeve which is the Q? ... solid brass - drill to fit - or solid aluminum drill to fit, or tube of either with too small ID and drill to fit. If had milling or lathe facilities, yes... If could find something suitable OD already pre-drilled even smaller, yes, that might be do-able; but so far haven't found the magic part... Altho, actually, a Nicopress #10 SWG might be just the ticket...have to go rummage around and see what's left from the days we used to have to keep up our own phone line to connect to main switchboard in town... What diameter do you need on the ID? Where are you located? Don't need a mill - just a lathe - which I have in the garage. |
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On 5/4/2019 7:22 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 4 May 2019 13:22:32 -0500, dpb wrote: On 5/4/2019 11:49 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2019 09:37:24 -0500, dpb wrote: On 5/3/2019 6:17 PM, trader_4 wrote: ... How about a piece of copper tubing or similar that will slip over it? ... Well, that was my idea...excepting I'm finding nothing of suitable ID/OD for the sleeve which is the Q? ... solid brass - drill to fit - or solid aluminum drill to fit, or tube of either with too small ID and drill to fit. If had milling or lathe facilities, yes... If could find something suitable OD already pre-drilled even smaller, yes, that might be do-able; but so far haven't found the magic part... Altho, actually, a Nicopress #10 SWG might be just the ticket...have to go rummage around and see what's left from the days we used to have to keep up our own phone line to connect to main switchboard in town... What diameter do you need on the ID? Where are you located? Don't need a mill - just a lathe - which I have in the garage. I've not mic'ed it, but it looks like nominal 1/8" diameter shaft... As for location, SW corner KS...I didn't get to to the look-see for what Nicopress sleeves happen to still be out in the barn...I know there are a couple boxes or so, just what size(s) they may be I don't know... -- |
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On 5/4/2019 7:20 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 4 May 2019 12:41:11 -0500, dpb wrote: ? That timer was problematic - the replacement electronic timer is an excellent way to keep the unique oven functional for years to come. How so? Has worked for nearly 40 years... and the timer/clock itself is still fully functional; just lost the handle. Pliers work, but are somewhat inconvient, the missus says... -- |
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On 5/3/19 1:54 PM, dpb wrote:
The old pot metal split ends for push-on style knob for the oven timer/clock finally broke leaving the end of the 1/8" OD shaft. As it is obsolete and no longer available and the oven/ragne itself is also of a style no longer produced that do not want to give up, the need is to be able to repair... It's long enough stub that if could find a crimp-style butt connector, think could manufacture a replacement split shaft or cut the end off a sacrificial product and attach for the knob to push on to... I'm not thinking of right search terms to be finding anything that meets my idea...have some old telephone wire nicopress that are just a little too small... Or, other ideas also welcomed... -- We use 1/4" plastic tubing that is fairly stiff. It slides over 1/8" tube fittings with ridges to help hold the tubing. It would probably be strong enough. Would something like that work? We use the tubing for end gun shut off valves on pivots. |
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On Sat, 4 May 2019 20:26:47 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/4/2019 7:20 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2019 12:41:11 -0500, dpb wrote: ? That timer was problematic - the replacement electronic timer is an excellent way to keep the unique oven functional for years to come. How so? Has worked for nearly 40 years... and the timer/clock itself is still fully functional; just lost the handle. Pliers work, but are somewhat inconvient, the missus says... I just read they were known to be a problem. Yours has worked well, but apparently some didn't. What you basically need is a knob about 3/8 inch long with a long hollow shaft to fit over the 1/8 inch stub that you can epoxy on - right? How much of the 1/8 inch shaft do you have left to work with (that you can slip the new shaft over)? |
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On Sat, 04 May 2019 23:40:01 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2019 20:26:47 -0500, dpb wrote: On 5/4/2019 7:20 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2019 12:41:11 -0500, dpb wrote: ? That timer was problematic - the replacement electronic timer is an excellent way to keep the unique oven functional for years to come. How so? Has worked for nearly 40 years... and the timer/clock itself is still fully functional; just lost the handle. Pliers work, but are somewhat inconvient, the missus says... I just read they were known to be a problem. Yours has worked well, but apparently some didn't. What you basically need is a knob about 3/8 inch long with a long hollow shaft to fit over the 1/8 inch stub that you can epoxy on - right? How much of the 1/8 inch shaft do you have left to work with (that you can slip the new shaft over)? I already suggested getting a 1/8" x 1/4" bushing and finding another knob or drilling out his to 1/4". |
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On 5/4/2019 10:40 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 4 May 2019 20:26:47 -0500, dpb wrote: On 5/4/2019 7:20 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2019 12:41:11 -0500, dpb wrote: ? That timer was problematic - the replacement electronic timer is an excellent way to keep the unique oven functional for years to come. How so? Has worked for nearly 40 years... and the timer/clock itself is still fully functional; just lost the handle. Pliers work, but are somewhat inconvient, the missus says... I just read they were known to be a problem. Yours has worked well, but apparently some didn't. What you basically need is a knob about 3/8 inch long with a long hollow shaft to fit over the 1/8 inch stub that you can epoxy on - right? How much of the 1/8 inch shaft do you have left to work with (that you can slip the new shaft over)? Interesting. I'd never run across that in searching for other pieces/parts over the years...of the things that have had to repair, this is the first time the timer/clock has ever been an issue -- altho, when the first half of the two splines (for lack of better name) broke a number of years ago I looked for replacement then, but the mechanical clock/timer was already obsolete/unavailable. Of course, almost everything else is, too, and has been for 20+ years. There's somewhat under an inch left past the face plate; it has to have sufficient clearance to be pushed inward by about a 1/4-3/8 inch to engage the clock-setting function; so the knob can't use up the whole length--hence the wish to extend the shaft somewhat again...the broken pieces are roughly 5/8" in length... -- |
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On 5/5/2019 7:49 AM, dpb wrote:
.... There's somewhat under an inch left past the face plate; it has to have sufficient clearance to be pushed inward by about a 1/4-3/8 inch to engage the clock-setting function; so the knob can't use up the whole length--hence the wish to extend the shaft somewhat again...the broken pieces are roughly 5/8" in length... .... The above I see is somewhat misleading -- that's to the face of the clock face itself, not the covering face...there's only about 1/4" or less past the outer cover. -- |
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On 5/3/19 1:54 PM, dpb wrote:
The old pot metal split ends for push-on style knob for the oven timer/clock finally broke leaving the end of the 1/8" OD shaft. As it is obsolete and no longer available and the oven/ragne itself is also of a style no longer produced that do not want to give up, the need is to be able to repair... It's long enough stub that if could find a crimp-style butt connector, think could manufacture a replacement split shaft or cut the end off a sacrificial product and attach for the knob to push on to... I'm not thinking of right search terms to be finding anything that meets my idea...have some old telephone wire nicopress that are just a little too small... Or, other ideas also welcomed... -- https://www.homedepot.com/p/Range-Kleen-Replacement-Knob-Shaft-Extender-4-Pack-82001/204661688 |
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On 5/5/2019 8:34 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
.... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Range-Kleen-Replacement-Knob-Shaft-Extender-4-Pack-82001/204661688 Interesting! Thanks...da..n! They be proud of 'em, though, ain't they!!??? One could think they were painted JD green. Q? says are D-shaped shaft, but perhaps could file a flat onto existing shaft. Doesn't give a shaft diameter...not one there to go look at and is 60+ mi drive, anyway, but interesting there is such an animal... -- |
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On Sun, 5 May 2019 09:27:28 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/5/2019 8:34 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: ... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Range-Kleen-Replacement-Knob-Shaft-Extender-4-Pack-82001/204661688 Interesting! Thanks...da..n! They be proud of 'em, though, ain't they!!??? One could think they were painted JD green. Q? says are D-shaped shaft, but perhaps could file a flat onto existing shaft. Doesn't give a shaft diameter...not one there to go look at and is 60+ mi drive, anyway, but interesting there is such an animal... I bet that is for a 1/4 " shaft, based on dimensions |
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On Sun, 5 May 2019 08:21:19 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/5/2019 7:49 AM, dpb wrote: ... There's somewhat under an inch left past the face plate; it has to have sufficient clearance to be pushed inward by about a 1/4-3/8 inch to engage the clock-setting function; so the knob can't use up the whole length--hence the wish to extend the shaft somewhat again...the broken pieces are roughly 5/8" in length... ... The above I see is somewhat misleading -- that's to the face of the clock face itself, not the covering face...there's only about 1/4" or less past the outer cover. So you need something with a bore of 1/8 inch about half an inch deep - about an inch and an eighth long? How far past the end of the shaft did the knob extend? What diameter is/was the knob?. How big can it be where it passes through the plastic face plate? |
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On Sun, 5 May 2019 09:27:28 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/5/2019 8:34 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: ... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Range-Kleen-Replacement-Knob-Shaft-Extender-4-Pack-82001/204661688 Interesting! Thanks...da..n! They be proud of 'em, though, ain't they!!??? One could think they were painted JD green. Q? says are D-shaped shaft, but perhaps could file a flat onto existing shaft. Doesn't give a shaft diameter...not one there to go look at and is 60+ mi drive, anyway, but interesting there is such an animal... Very readily available for 6mm shafts - not so common for the smaller sizes. |
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On Sun, 5 May 2019 09:27:28 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/5/2019 8:34 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: ... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Range-Kleen-Replacement-Knob-Shaft-Extender-4-Pack-82001/204661688 Interesting! Thanks...da..n! They be proud of 'em, though, ain't they!!??? One could think they were painted JD green. Q? says are D-shaped shaft, but perhaps could file a flat onto existing shaft. Doesn't give a shaft diameter...not one there to go look at and is 60+ mi drive, anyway, but interesting there is such an animal... Another suggestion - check around for an odometer resetting knob from a car or bike speedometer.They are generally niceand long and about the right size. Check your local bike recycler or bike shop and see if they hace something that would fit - even with a bit of modification. Or the clock adjuster knob from an old car clock - - - Something like THIS: https://www.cb750faces.com/cb750face...ith-shaft.html |
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On 5/5/2019 2:56 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
.... ... Check your local bike recycler or bike shop ... That's a city mindset/expectation ... VBG Small towns standing alone for 60-100 mi radius just can't support such relatively low-volume businesses, unfortunately. If it ain't oil patch or farm production related, it just ain't at all likely going to be available locally... -- |
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On 5/5/2019 2:20 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 5 May 2019 08:21:19 -0500, dpb wrote: On 5/5/2019 7:49 AM, dpb wrote: ... There's somewhat under an inch left past the face plate; it has to have sufficient clearance to be pushed inward by about a 1/4-3/8 inch to engage the clock-setting function; so the knob can't use up the whole length--hence the wish to extend the shaft somewhat again...the broken pieces are roughly 5/8" in length... ... The above I see is somewhat misleading -- that's to the face of the clock face itself, not the covering face...there's only about 1/4" or less past the outer cover. So you need something with a bore of 1/8 inch about half an inch deep - about an inch and an eighth long? How far past the end of the shaft did the knob extend? What diameter is/was the knob?. How big can it be where it passes through the plastic face plate? OK, I did actually take the phone and rule to take some pictures...actually, the shaft is 3/16", not 1/8" -- sorta' obvious after being awakened by reality--a 1/8" OD with the slot woulda' left nothing at all to speak of. I've got pictures of another shaft that is still intact as well as the stub end of the remainder in question as well as the knob -- you'll recognize it as quite common but I just couldn't find an online picture for one. It's just under inch long and 1/2" OD at base with the formed flats for gripping... That wipes out my Nicopress idea; know I have nothing that big but makes finding something to use for starting point easier, I'm sure... The existing opening in the oven plastic cover is right at 3/8" so a wall thickness of =1/16" would still go thru and be stout enough to take a good squeeze. I suppose it wouldn't be totally impossible to remove the clock and manage to even drill it for a tiny roll pin or the like if wanted to get esoteric...altho I don't have much of a set up for precision work--farm stuff doesn't tend to need much precision; everything I have is basically for big, rough work. -- |
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On Sun, 5 May 2019 15:22:04 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/5/2019 2:56 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: ... ... Check your local bike recycler or bike shop ... That's a city mindset/expectation ... VBG Small towns standing alone for 60-100 mi radius just can't support such relatively low-volume businesses, unfortunately. If it ain't oil patch or farm production related, it just ain't at all likely going to be available locally... You telling me the Grubbies don't have a Harley shop within 100 miles? They must put a lot of miles on their pickups hauling their scoots back and forth from the dealer!!! Gotta be a few old bikes in a scrap-pile SOMEWHERE in your corner of Kansas. I know ANYTHING is few and far between in Kansas and Oklahoma - I've driven through both - but there's lots of junk around -at least there was in '76 when I drove down to the Nats in Tulsa - - - A lot of it was on the road disguised as a street rod too - - - - |
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Crimp sleeve or alternate ideas...
On Sun, 5 May 2019 16:00:07 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/5/2019 2:20 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 5 May 2019 08:21:19 -0500, dpb wrote: On 5/5/2019 7:49 AM, dpb wrote: ... There's somewhat under an inch left past the face plate; it has to have sufficient clearance to be pushed inward by about a 1/4-3/8 inch to engage the clock-setting function; so the knob can't use up the whole length--hence the wish to extend the shaft somewhat again...the broken pieces are roughly 5/8" in length... ... The above I see is somewhat misleading -- that's to the face of the clock face itself, not the covering face...there's only about 1/4" or less past the outer cover. So you need something with a bore of 1/8 inch about half an inch deep - about an inch and an eighth long? How far past the end of the shaft did the knob extend? What diameter is/was the knob?. How big can it be where it passes through the plastic face plate? OK, I did actually take the phone and rule to take some pictures...actually, the shaft is 3/16", not 1/8" -- sorta' obvious after being awakened by reality--a 1/8" OD with the slot woulda' left nothing at all to speak of. I've got pictures of another shaft that is still intact as well as the stub end of the remainder in question as well as the knob -- you'll recognize it as quite common but I just couldn't find an online picture for one. It's just under inch long and 1/2" OD at base with the formed flats for gripping... That wipes out my Nicopress idea; know I have nothing that big but makes finding something to use for starting point easier, I'm sure... The existing opening in the oven plastic cover is right at 3/8" so a wall thickness of =1/16" would still go thru and be stout enough to take a good squeeze. I suppose it wouldn't be totally impossible to remove the clock and manage to even drill it for a tiny roll pin or the like if wanted to get esoteric...altho I don't have much of a set up for precision work--farm stuff doesn't tend to need much precision; everything I have is basically for big, rough work. order https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12436 and cut the existing shaft back with your dremmel so there is just enough play to allow you to push it in to adjust. The adapter is 3/4" long and about 1/2 inch in diameter. Make a new shaft to fit the knob. you could use an old nail in a pinch - lots of them on the farm I'm sure!! If you don't have a dremel style rotary tool now you have an excuse to get one. Then you just need to figure out how to fit the knob to your new shaft - or find another knob to fit - - - |
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On 5/5/19 9:27 AM, dpb wrote:
On 5/5/2019 8:34 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: ... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Range-Kleen-Replacement-Knob-Shaft-Extender-4-Pack-82001/204661688 Interesting!Â* Thanks...da..n! They be proud of 'em, though, ain't they!!??? One could think they were painted JD green.Â* Q? says are D-shaped shaft, but perhaps could file a flat onto existing shaft.Â* Doesn't give a shaft diameter...not one there to go look at and is 60+ mi drive, anyway, but interesting there is such an animal... Maybe it will at least spark an idea. Speaking of Mr. Deere..... Would you happen to have an old Dickey John monitor or some such back in a shed somewhere? Don't those old things use knobs? Maybe the knob would be offset far enough back to let that shortened shaft work. |
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On 5/5/19 9:27 AM, dpb wrote:
On 5/5/2019 8:34 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: ... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Range-Kleen-Replacement-Knob-Shaft-Extender-4-Pack-82001/204661688 Interesting!Â* Thanks...da..n! They be proud of 'em, though, ain't they!!??? One could think they were painted JD green.Â* Q? says are D-shaped shaft, but perhaps could file a flat onto existing shaft.Â* Doesn't give a shaft diameter...not one there to go look at and is 60+ mi drive, anyway, but interesting there is such an animal... Amazon has stuff like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Range-Kleen-Replacement-Knob-Shaft-Extender-4-Pack-82001/204661688 Case-IH pricing. |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... On 5/5/2019 2:56 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: ... ... Check your local bike recycler or bike shop ... That's a city mindset/expectation ... VBG Small towns standing alone for 60-100 mi radius just can't support such relatively low-volume businesses, unfortunately. Mine does, it has 3 of them in fact. They flog everything from chainsaws to lawn mowers to motorbikes to bikes to quad bikes. If it ain't oil patch or farm production related, it just ain't at all likely going to be available locally... |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Mon, 6 May 2019 09:47:59 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: That's a city mindset/expectation ... VBG Small towns standing alone for 60-100 mi radius just can't support such relatively low-volume businesses, unfortunately. Mine does, Nobody gives a ****, senile Ozzietard! -- Norman Wells addressing senile Rot: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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Crimp sleeve or alternate ideas...
On 5/5/2019 6:47 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message ... On 5/5/2019 2:56 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: ... Â*... Check your local bike recycler or bike shop ... That's a city mindset/expectation ... VBG Small towns standing alone for 60-100 mi radius just can't support such relatively low-volume businesses, unfortunately. Mine does, it has 3 of them in fact. They flog everything from chainsaws to lawn mowers to motorbikes to bikes to quad bikes. .... Must be different folks in that-there small town, then... I don't think I've seen a bike for sale anywhere in town in the 20 year we've been back...and, come to think of it, not that many kids in town actually have bikes it seems. Maybe the two are somehow related??? -- |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... On 5/5/2019 6:47 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "dpb" wrote in message ... On 5/5/2019 2:56 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: ... ... Check your local bike recycler or bike shop ... That's a city mindset/expectation ... VBG Small towns standing alone for 60-100 mi radius just can't support such relatively low-volume businesses, unfortunately. Mine does, it has 3 of them in fact. They flog everything from chainsaws to lawn mowers to motorbikes to bikes to quad bikes. ... Must be different folks in that-there small town, then... I don't think I've seen a bike for sale anywhere in town in the 20 year we've been back...and, come to think of it, not that many kids in town actually have bikes it seems. Maybe the two are somehow related??? As many of the adults here ride bikes as kids. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Mon, 6 May 2019 13:07:44 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: I don't think I've seen a bike for sale anywhere in town in the 20 year we've been back...and, come to think of it, not that many kids in town actually have bikes it seems. Maybe the two are somehow related??? As many of the adults here ride bikes as kids. Are you sure, senile Rodent? Senilely sure again? VBG -- dennis@home to retarded senile Rot: "sod off rod you don't have a clue about anything." Message-ID: |
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