On 12/13/2013 12:18 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:59:36 PM UTC-8, Tony Hwang wrote:
wrote:

My client asked me to pick-out, purchase and install an appliance for him.

It turned out that the appliance that I picked had a rebate coupon.

I filled out the coupon and mailed it and received the money.

How much of the money should I give to my client?



Hi,

IMHO, all. It is his appliance. He is the registered owner with the

manufacturer I believe. I think you should've filled out his name.

1. I couldn’t fill out his name because I used my credit card with my name on the invoice.
2. I should at least get back the money for the stamp I used if nothing else.



On the job I retired from my billing rate was something like $120 for
the first hour and $90 for each additional hour.

If it only took you 15 minutes to fill out the rebate card and mail it...
on my job at least that would have been $30.

We were told to do all of our paperwork on-site and to bill the customer
for our time.


Considering we were keeping production lines going that could cost a
customer a million dollars or more a day (if down)...we certainly did
not get complaints if we sent them a $500 or $600 bill.

"philo " wrote in message ...
Well, most of the people I repair computers for have very little money
so if I charge at all, it's typically just $25.

Only once did I get a job for a very wealthy business man but since it
went over 5 hours, I gave them a 20% discount.

Nothing wrong with that. I suspect that you have a love of what you are
doing, too. I had a love of what I did, but my body did not. Well, with
the exception of the last year and a half with one employer. That was all
TS&R. Once my employer wanted me to wear multiple hats again (be a one man
work crew), I went elsewhere. My body no longer liked digging trench, laying
out/lifting heavy things, pretty much entire projects, all by myself.

It felt good to wake up in the morning and not feel like I had been rolled down
a hill in a barrel full of rocks. I do, however, have an urge to further my
PLC skills and work in a pure motor control environment. Nothing like toting
a laptop instead of all the other crap. That, and my wallet might stop bitching
at me. :-)

On 12/13/2013 04:09 PM, Irreverent Maximus wrote:

"philo " wrote in message
...
Well, most of the people I repair computers for have very little money
so if I charge at all, it's typically just $25.

Only once did I get a job for a very wealthy business man but since it
went over 5 hours, I gave them a 20% discount.

Nothing wrong with that. I suspect that you have a love of what you are
doing, too. I had a love of what I did, but my body did not. Well, with
the exception of the last year and a half with one employer. That was all
TS&R. Once my employer wanted me to wear multiple hats again (be a one man
work crew), I went elsewhere. My body no longer liked digging trench,
laying
out/lifting heavy things, pretty much entire projects, all by myself.

It felt good to wake up in the morning and not feel like I had been
rolled down
a hill in a barrel full of rocks. I do, however, have an urge to
further my
PLC skills and work in a pure motor control environment. Nothing like
toting
a laptop instead of all the other crap. That, and my wallet might stop
bitching
at me. :-)




I was in the industrial battery business for 38 years...the large ones
found in fork lift trucks. Two years ago my knees went and had to get
them replaced. I am glad to be retired now.

Although even after the knees were replaced they are not as good as
new...my back sure feels a lot better now.

I have been sort of forced to learn how to repair laptops now...as
towers and desktops are not as prevalent as they once were.

I look at laptops more as watch repair though.

The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 12/13/2013 6:35 AM, Fat-Dumb and Happy wrote:
You got a rebate back? Keep it and pay to Uncle Sam his share.
Consider yourself lucky. Rebates are like going to a casino, some
winners but the risk is high. I never did get the 5 bucks from
Staples or the 40 bucks from Tiger Direct. Rebates and gift cards
are a pain in the arse but the companies love them, extra money in
the bank for them.

I believe a lot rebates are a scam and a way to fool customers. The
advertising has a low price in big print but underneath, there is very
tiny print, "after rebate". ^_^

I've applied for dozens of rebates, and AFAIK, have received every one.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Wish Dr. Laura Schlessinger was still answering
questions. This would be a good question for her.

Dr Laura - the ultimate hypocrite - she was constantly deriding people for doing
exactly what she had done.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:55:09 PM UTC-6, wrote:
My client asked me to pick-out, purchase and install an appliance for him.

It turned out that the appliance that I picked had a rebate coupon.

I filled out the coupon and mailed it and received the money.

How much of the money should I give to my client?

Did you pay for it ?

"Bob F" wrote in message ...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Wish Dr. Laura Schlessinger was still answering
questions. This would be a good question for her.

Dr Laura - the ultimate hypocrite - she was constantly deriding people for doing
exactly what she had done.



Oh, the Libtard and his ignorance shows up again. Hypocrisy is chiding others
for *doing* what you *are* doing, not for what you *have* done. In your small
world of circular logic Charles Manson would be wrong if he now stated that having
people killed is a bad thing. Telling your kids not to sneak cookies out of
the cookie jar would not be allowed. Or, in your case, misinterpreting the
truth because of malice...wait, you still do that...

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:36:56 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

I believe a lot rebates are a scam and a way to fool customers. The
advertising has a low price in big print but underneath, there is very
tiny print, "after rebate". ^_^

I've applied for dozens of rebates, and AFAIK, have received every one.

+1

....just follow the instructions - exactly!

Now vendors want to send you debit cards. If you leave 37 cents on
the card, it goes back to the issuer of the card. Money $

On Friday, December 13, 2013 3:22:05 PM UTC-5, Roy Biggins wrote:
On 12/13/2013 03:07 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:



as to your question, it depends on if you want your client to refer you

and/or give you more work





Good grief, Malformed!



I recently had new furnace and central air units installed.

The dealer did an excellent job installing both.

Based on past and present work performed, I would recommend this dealer to my closest friends.



I assume that this dealer gets an end-of-year sales rebate from the factory.

I don't feel entitled to any portion of that dealer's rebate.

.

..

The above doesn't sound anything like the situation that occurred. A
problem is that a lot of info is lacking. But clearly this isn't a
volume rebate that some reseller gets. Without any more info, I would
suspect that the client agreed to pay for the cost of the appliance that
the OP obtained at a local store plus the cost to install it. If that
appliance had a rebate, then I would think in most cases, the client is
entitled to it. But we don't know for sure, because we don't know what
the actual contract that was made was.

I recently bought paint at HD that had a $40 rebate. That rebate was
available to anyone. If I had a contract with a painter to pay $1000
for his services, I pay for the paint, he picks it up at HD, then clearly
that rebate would be mine. It's also not a good idea to pull this with
a customer, because it's usually easy to find out what rebates there are
online and then you have a problem.

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:49:28 -0700, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

...snip...

OJ Simpson got off, for killing two people.
Does that make it OK for you and me to go
kill two people?


What amazed me the most was watching live coverage of the trial, followed
by news peoples' sound bytes of what had happened. It was like they were
somewhere else! What came into mind was, Isn't English their primary
language? And, didn't they watch what I just watched? They were worse than
Oprah interviewing a guest, simply ignoring what was ACTUALLY said and
giving opinions and asking questions based on God knows what.

This ought to cause a really high jacked thread....
I personally do not believe that OJ did that crime. Several reasons: OJ
was football player, from being around them, they use their hands when
angry and frustrated. They would simply pound people silly, not stab,
they're just not 'tool' type people. Plus a 'proffessional knifer' keeps
his knife as in the weapon was never found. Importantly there are
indications two people perpetrated the crime, not one. The man killed was
a 'look alike' not the intended target to have been included. During the
trial, met OJ's people at his home in BelAir and people one hires are a
reflection of themselves, outstanding individuals of high integtrity.
Can't believe OJ did the crime. Later, after acquittal down in LA, met M
Clark [that was ONE bitter lady!] and felt like taking a shower
afterwards, some people just leave you feeling like that.

Guilty, or innocent? Not for me to judge really.

The worse hypocrite : A Jew preaching morality with a fake title.. on AM radio .

Murder is only illegal if one gets caught.

In article m,
Roy Biggins wrote:

On 12/13/2013 03:07 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:

as to your question, it depends on if you want your client to refer you
and/or give you more work


Good grief, Malformed!

I recently had new furnace and central air units installed.
The dealer did an excellent job installing both.
Based on past and present work performed, I would recommend this dealer to my
closest friends.

I assume that this dealer gets an end-of-year sales rebate from the factory.
I don't feel entitled to any portion of that dealer's rebate.
.

ah, so you believe that the best way to keep existing customers, get new
referrals from these existing customers is to not give them something
that makes them think better of you?

"philo " wrote in message ...

I was in the industrial battery business for 38 years...the large ones
found in fork lift trucks. Two years ago my knees went and had to get
them replaced. I am glad to be retired now.

I have lugged some of those bad boys around. I would not think of trying
that, now. Well, not by myself.


Although even after the knees were replaced they are not as good as
new...my back sure feels a lot better now.

I have been sort of forced to learn how to repair laptops now...as
towers and desktops are not as prevalent as they once were.

I look at laptops more as watch repair though.

LOL! Not Rolex? :-)

On 12-13-2013, 11:53, philo wrote:
In a court of law, Tiger would have won. To get a rebate, it would have
been required that I sent in the rebate form...and I did not.

In a court of law, they wouldn't even bother to show up and you'd win.

If they did show up, and you had proof that they cheated you by
foot-dragging, you'd probably win. But if there is no jury, it's hard
to predict what a judge will do. I remember after one case asking a
lawyer, "Did that judge actually say on the record that he was not going
to do his job?" "Yeah, but what are you gonna do?"

--
Wes Groleau

Words of the Wild Wes
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW

"Oren" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:36:56 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

I believe a lot rebates are a scam and a way to fool customers. The
advertising has a low price in big print but underneath, there is very
tiny print, "after rebate". ^_^

I've applied for dozens of rebates, and AFAIK, have received every one.

+1

...just follow the instructions - exactly!

Now vendors want to send you debit cards. If you leave 37 cents on
the card, it goes back to the issuer of the card. Money $

It is a funny thing that manufacturers are counting on people to not
send in the rebate, or mess up. If it is not an in store rebate, I
ignore it. Even then, sometimes...there is always a catch. I purchased
a broadband modem once. With in store rebate. Part of the sign up process
and one of those introductory deals. Well, come to find out, a bit later,
that I was being charged a rental fee on the modem.

Sir, you must provide proof of purchase.

Um, I just changed my credit card number and had the last charge reversed.
This is proof of my cancelation and your modem may be found in the nearest
dumpster. Bite me and have a nice day.

You still have 8 months on your *click*

This was my second call. During the first call my cell phone dropped after
the rep I was talking with verified that I actually *had* purchased the
modem and that it showed up on their system. Twas a bait and switch thing
and I guess I was one of the first to call in on him. The next one played
it well, but I had already made my decision. Bye, bye.

A little history,
State sues TigerDirect, OnRebate
http://assets.bizjournals.com/cms_me...tComplaint.pdf

philo wrote:

On 12/13/2013 06:35 AM, Fat-Dumb and Happy wrote:
You got a rebate back? Keep it and pay to Uncle Sam his share. Consider
yourself lucky. Rebates are like going to a casino, some winners but
the risk is high. I never did get the 5 bucks from Staples or the 40
bucks from Tiger Direct. Rebates and gift cards are a pain in the arse
but the companies love them, extra money in the bank for them.

I stopped dealing with Tiger Direct due to a rebate I did not get.

I went back and forth with them /many/ times until the 30 days I had to
apply ran out. Once it was too late to get the rebate, they finally told
me to just download it from their website at the time of purchase.
Up until then they simply told me they'd send me the form.


The one-and=only rebate I never got was from Circuit City.

I'm not saying that I had anything to do with their untimely demise.

But I'm not saying I didn't!

wrote:

On Friday, December 13, 2013 7:44:23 AM UTC-8, badgolferman wrote:
wrote:



My client asked me to pick-out, purchase and install an appliance for

him. It turned out that the appliance that I picked had a rebate

coupon. I filled out the coupon and mailed it and received the

money. How much of the money should I give to my client?



The mere fact that you post this question shows your conscience is

bothered. Do the right thing.

Thank you, I will, but I don’t believe in a “conscience” but I always try my best to do what is fair.

Rebates typically take 6-8 weeks to receive. But not everybody knows
that.

So what is your client going to think of you showing up with $$ so long
after the deal?

Will he be thrilled, or... suspicious?

On 12/13/2013 05:57 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 12-13-2013, 11:53, philo wrote:
In a court of law, Tiger would have won. To get a rebate, it would have
been required that I sent in the rebate form...and I did not.

In a court of law, they wouldn't even bother to show up and you'd win.

If they did show up, and you had proof that they cheated you by
foot-dragging, you'd probably win. But if there is no jury, it's hard
to predict what a judge will do. I remember after one case asking a
lawyer, "Did that judge actually say on the record that he was not going
to do his job?" "Yeah, but what are you gonna do?"



Since the rebate was probably for ten dollars I have a feeling it would
not have been a court case.

On 12/13/2013 06:19 PM, Fat-Dumb and Happy wrote:
A little history,
State sues TigerDirect, OnRebate
http://assets.bizjournals.com/cms_me...tComplaint.pdf




Now that is interesting. If anyone had an issue with Tiger
Direct...sending them a copy of that PDF might actually get them to "pay
up".

On 12/13/2013 05:56 PM, Irreverent Maximus wrote:

"philo " wrote in message
...

I was in the industrial battery business for 38 years...the large ones
found in fork lift trucks. Two years ago my knees went and had to get
them replaced. I am glad to be retired now.

I have lugged some of those bad boys around. I would not think of trying
that, now. Well, not by myself.




The batteries I worked with were usually in the 500 - 4000 pound range
so were not liftable by hand...but we did have to install plenty of VRLA
and it can be a lot of physical work.

I did see my boss once muscle one of those 500# batteries onto a pallet.

He did stuff like that for a while but later needed to get back surgery.

On 12/13/2013 04:39 PM, Bob F wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Wish Dr. Laura Schlessinger was still answering
questions. This would be a good question for her.

Dr Laura - the ultimate hypocrite - she was constantly deriding people for doing
exactly what she had done.





There were nude pictures of he floating around on the Internet posted by
some old boyfriend. She would have called a woman who did that a whore.

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 16:53:27 -0600, "Irreverent Maximus"
wrote:


"Bob F" wrote in message ...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Wish Dr. Laura Schlessinger was still answering
questions. This would be a good question for her.

Dr Laura - the ultimate hypocrite - she was constantly deriding people for doing
exactly what she had done.



Oh, the Libtard and his ignorance shows up again. Hypocrisy is chiding others
for *doing* what you *are* doing, not for what you *have* done. In your small
world of circular logic Charles Manson would be wrong if he now stated that having
people killed is a bad thing. Telling your kids not to sneak cookies out of
the cookie jar would not be allowed. Or, in your case, misinterpreting the
truth because of malice...wait, you still do that...


See how he turned out?!

"philo " wrote in message ...


The batteries I worked with were usually in the 500 - 4000 pound range
so were not liftable by hand...but we did have to install plenty of VRLA
and it can be a lot of physical work.

I did see my boss once muscle one of those 500# batteries onto a pallet.

He did stuff like that for a while but later needed to get back surgery.



I stopped doing stuff like that a long time ago. I don't need help, I will
use the laws of leverage. :-)

Before my back started giving me grief I should have clued in one time when I
was trying to mount an approx. 250 pound enclosure to some strut. Trying
to leverage the thing off of the ground with my arms and knees was rather
awkward, being that the thing was large and cumbersome, and I had to have
the thing balanced on my left knee while trying to balance and lift and well,
I felt something weird in my right ankle. Sort of hurt, but wasn't really
all that bad, all things considered.

The best I could describe it was like one of those paper towel commercials.
They wet it and pull the thing apart with fingertips. The visual of that
was akin to the sensation I felt along the rear exterior of my heel and
Achilles tendon. Kind of freaky. I finished mounting the stupid panel and
went home for the day.

"philo " wrote in message ...
On 12/13/2013 04:39 PM, Bob F wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Wish Dr. Laura Schlessinger was still answering
questions. This would be a good question for her.

Dr Laura - the ultimate hypocrite - she was constantly deriding people for doing
exactly what she had done.





There were nude pictures of he floating around on the Internet posted by
some old boyfriend. She would have called a woman who did that a whore.

I saw those.

"Oren" wrote in message ...

See how he turned out?!

:-)

On 12/13/2013 07:52 PM, Irreverent Maximus wrote:

"philo " wrote in message
...
On 12/13/2013 04:39 PM, Bob F wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Wish Dr. Laura Schlessinger was still answering
questions. This would be a good question for her.

Dr Laura - the ultimate hypocrite - she was constantly deriding
people for doing
exactly what she had done.





There were nude pictures of he floating around on the Internet posted
by some old boyfriend. She would have called a woman who did that a
whore.

I saw those.


So did I. Don't anyone here waste your time Googling.

On Friday, December 13, 2013 1:34:44 PM UTC-8, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 08:59:12 -0800 (PST),

wrote:



The mere fact that you post this question shows your conscience is



bothered. Do the right thing.



Thank you, I will, but I don�t believe in a �conscience� but I always try my best to do what is fair.



I'm not sure I follow you. If you "don�t believe in a �conscience�",

why is this bothering you? Enough to ask about it here?



During the recent housing bubble, guys would ask my friend about

obtaining work and why they didn't get the work.



A: "Stop being greedy"

I don’t need to “feel” something is wrong if it is not just.

The bottom line here is that in making your purchase decision, you were either acting in your client's best interest, or you were acting in your own best interest.

If you claim that you were acting in your client's best interest because he would have made the same purchase decision because of the rebate, then you are correct. You were acting in his best interest. However, that also means that the rebate is HIS.

If you buy that stove, but keep the rebate for yourself, then it's hard for us not to believe that the rebate didn't steer your decision making right from the start. In that case, you were acting in your own best interest, and betrayed your client's trust.

Give the rebate money to your client and get a tip and some word of mouth advertising out of the deal. If your client finds out there was a rebate paid on that purchase and he never saw a penny of it, he'll believed you betrayed his trust. If you tell him about the rebate, and offer him half, he'll believe you betrayed him because if you were acting in his best interest, he should get the entire rebate. So, he'll badmouth you for the rest of his life.

If he relates the story exactly as you related it to us, his audience will agree that ethically, you have an obligation to return the rebate to him because you were acting on his behalf in making the decision to purchase the stove which offered the rebate. You can't say you were truly doing that if you gave him the stove, but kept the rebate for yourself since the rebate was the reason for purchasing THAT stove. Or, rather, you can say that, but not too many people would believe you.

On 12/13/2013 3:57 PM, philo wrote:
On 12/13/2013 12:18 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:59:36 PM UTC-8, Tony Hwang wrote:
wrote:

My client asked me to pick-out, purchase and install an
appliance for him.

It turned out that the appliance that I picked had a rebate
coupon.

I filled out the coupon and mailed it and received the money.

How much of the money should I give to my client?



Hi,

IMHO, all. It is his appliance. He is the registered owner with
the

manufacturer I believe. I think you should've filled out his
name.

1. I couldn’t fill out his name because I used my credit card with
my name on the invoice. 2. I should at least get back the money for
the stamp I used if nothing else.


On the job I retired from my billing rate was something like $120 for
the first hour and $90 for each additional hour.

If it only took you 15 minutes to fill out the rebate card and mail
it... on my job at least that would have been $30.

We were told to do all of our paperwork on-site and to bill the
customer for our time.

Considering we were keeping production lines going that could cost a
customer a million dollars or more a day (if down)...we certainly
did not get complaints if we sent them a $500 or $600 bill.

Many companies look at the cost of a piece of equipment including the
cost of removing and replacing it when deciding to repair it. I don't
know what the percentage is now but it must be very high for large items
like a machine used in a manufacturing operation. That's the sort of
thing that happens during a planned shutdown of the manufacturer's
plant. ^_^

TDD

On 12/13/2013 5:12 PM, RobertMacy wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:49:28 -0700, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

...snip...

OJ Simpson got off, for killing two people. Does that make it OK
for you and me to go kill two people?


What amazed me the most was watching live coverage of the trial,
followed by news peoples' sound bytes of what had happened. It was
like they were somewhere else! What came into mind was, Isn't English
their primary language? And, didn't they watch what I just watched?
They were worse than Oprah interviewing a guest, simply ignoring what
was ACTUALLY said and giving opinions and asking questions based on
God knows what.

This ought to cause a really high jacked thread.... I personally do
not believe that OJ did that crime. Several reasons: OJ was football
player, from being around them, they use their hands when angry and
frustrated. They would simply pound people silly, not stab, they're
just not 'tool' type people. Plus a 'proffessional knifer' keeps his
knife as in the weapon was never found. Importantly there are
indications two people perpetrated the crime, not one. The man killed
was a 'look alike' not the intended target to have been included.
During the trial, met OJ's people at his home in BelAir and people
one hires are a reflection of themselves, outstanding individuals of
high integtrity. Can't believe OJ did the crime. Later, after
acquittal down in LA, met M Clark [that was ONE bitter lady!] and
felt like taking a shower afterwards, some people just leave you
feeling like that.

Guilty, or innocent? Not for me to judge really.


During the time the O.J. Simpson circus was going on, I was getting
breakfast at a restaurant when the waitress said, "OJ?", I loudly said,
"OJ! I'm tired of hearing about OJ this and OJ that it's idiotic and I
don't want heart it anymore!", the poor waitress said, "I'm sorry, I was
asking if you wanted orange juice." of course I apologized. ^_^

^_^

On 12/13/2013 5:16 PM, Daring Dufas : A Sock Of Killer Loon wrote:
Murder is only illegal if one gets caught.


Killer Loon, living proof that human females should never have sex with
farm animals. ^_^

TDD

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:55:09 PM UTC-8, wrote:
My client asked me to pick-out, purchase and install an appliance for him..

It turned out that the appliance that I picked had a rebate coupon.

I filled out the coupon and mailed it and received the money.

How much of the money should I give to my client?

I have decided to give my client the entire rebate minus one dollar for my trouble and expense since, as someone here mentioned, I was acting as an agent of my client even though the rebate had nothing to do with my decision to purchase the appliance since I didn’t even know there was a rebate until I made my decision to buy that particular model which had the rebate or for that matter if or when I would even get the rebate. Most of my clients are very nice people for whom I would gladly do the same. In the future however, since I do also have some clients that I don’t particularly like, and under the same circumstances for those particular clients I would probably not even bother filling out the rebate coupon or mailing it in since I know I wouldn’t be getting any money for it.

On 12/13/2013 5:16 PM, Daring Dufas : A Sock Of Killer Loon wrote:
The worse hypocrite : A Jew preaching morality with a fake title..
on AM radio .

Killer Loon, living proof that human females should never have sex with
farm animals. ^_^

TDD

On 12/13/2013 3:38 PM, philo wrote:
On 12/13/2013 03:30 PM, Irreverent Maximus wrote:

mentioned it to him but I took it.

The only thing I feel guilty about is not charging him for the
data recovery jobs. A lab would have charged at least $600 per
job.

Context is everything. If the customer asked you to get the best
price, that is one thing. A bait and switch is another. Charging
more than you paid for something is to be expected, yet does not
have to happen if you are not putting yourself in a financial hole
to accomplish this.

People will treat regulars differently than an out of thin air
customer. A repeat customer will get better deals. A new customer,
unless work is grim, will get the standard quote with expected mark
up. I worked for a man that high-balled all new installations. He
did not care. He did not want the work. He made his money off of
fixing other people's mistakes. He would tell his customers to put
the job out to bid and that he would come in later and make the
system work.

In the end, the customer paid around the same price, but my
previous employer did not have to mess with the hassle of a new
installation, change-orders, time- lines, and the usual cost
overruns associated with getting a facility up and running, either
as a gen or sub-contractor. I care not to explain the entire
process, but he had a niche market for himself, and that was
beneficial to me at the time.


Well, most of the people I repair computers for have very little
money so if I charge at all, it's typically just $25.

Only once did I get a job for a very wealthy business man but since
it went over 5 hours, I gave them a 20% discount.

Me and my late friend GB often repaired HVAC systems for people with
little money and didn't charge them a lot and when we did it for an old
fellow who lived a few blocks from GB, the old man's family called us to
repair their equipment and paid us full price because they appreciated
the way we helped their family member who had a limited income. ^_^

TDD

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ...


Me and my late friend GB often repaired HVAC systems for people with
little money and didn't charge them a lot and when we did it for an old
fellow who lived a few blocks from GB, the old man's family called us to
repair their equipment and paid us full price because they appreciated
the way we helped their family member who had a limited income. ^_^

TDD

Good deal.

When asked how much do I owe you?

Um, what's for lunch?

Some things you do, just because.

On 12/13/2013 4:09 PM, Irreverent Maximus wrote:

"philo " wrote in message
...
Well, most of the people I repair computers for have very little
money so if I charge at all, it's typically just $25.

Only once did I get a job for a very wealthy business man but since
it went over 5 hours, I gave them a 20% discount.

Nothing wrong with that. I suspect that you have a love of what you
are doing, too. I had a love of what I did, but my body did not.
Well, with the exception of the last year and a half with one
employer. That was all TS&R. Once my employer wanted me to wear
multiple hats again (be a one man work crew), I went elsewhere. My
body no longer liked digging trench, laying out/lifting heavy things,
pretty much entire projects, all by myself.

It felt good to wake up in the morning and not feel like I had been
rolled down a hill in a barrel full of rocks. I do, however, have an
urge to further my PLC skills and work in a pure motor control
environment. Nothing like toting a laptop instead of all the other
crap. That, and my wallet might stop bitching at me. :-)



I worked one day last month with JH and Stinky, installing a computer
and VoIP network. I was installing jacks on the Cat5 cable and testing
the cable to verify proper operation. The Cat5 cable tested almost as
good as Cat6 so I knew we did a good job. I had been getting up and down
to install jacks and test the network so I put a lot of stress on my
joints. It took me two weeks to recover from that job. I spent part of
two days this month helping install a wireless IP camera system for
a guy and I remarked to JH that I couldn't understand why I was in so
much pain while we were driving home. I finally realized that while I
wasn't climbing a ladder or running the power cable, I had gotten under
the desk a number of times to get the computer, the DVR and KVM switch
working. The house also had a flight of stairs going out back that I had
negotiated several times while testing the system. I tend to concentrate
on what I'm doing and before I became very ill and was working on big
installations, I would look down and see that I was bleeding wondering
where in the hell the blood came from and when did I get cut. I only
hurt when I stop working and the pain gets my attention. o_O

TDD

On Friday, December 13, 2013 11:30:14 PM UTC-6, The Daring Dufas wrote:
I tend to concentrate

on what I'm doing and before I became very ill and was working on big

installations, I would look down and see that I was bleeding wondering

where in the hell the blood came from and when did I get cut. I only

hurt when I stop working and the pain gets my attention. o_O


Other people experience the same...the longer I live the more I realize I am nothing special. Only to my Maker. 8^)
TDD

On 12/13/2013 4:15 PM, philo wrote:
On 12/13/2013 04:09 PM, Irreverent Maximus wrote:

"philo " wrote in message
...
Well, most of the people I repair computers for have very little
money so if I charge at all, it's typically just $25.

Only once did I get a job for a very wealthy business man but
since it went over 5 hours, I gave them a 20% discount.

Nothing wrong with that. I suspect that you have a love of what
you are doing, too. I had a love of what I did, but my body did
not. Well, with the exception of the last year and a half with one
employer. That was all TS&R. Once my employer wanted me to wear
multiple hats again (be a one man work crew), I went elsewhere. My
body no longer liked digging trench, laying out/lifting heavy
things, pretty much entire projects, all by myself.

It felt good to wake up in the morning and not feel like I had
been rolled down a hill in a barrel full of rocks. I do, however,
have an urge to further my PLC skills and work in a pure motor
control environment. Nothing like toting a laptop instead of all
the other crap. That, and my wallet might stop bitching at me.
:-)


I was in the industrial battery business for 38 years...the large
ones found in fork lift trucks. Two years ago my knees went and had
to get them replaced. I am glad to be retired now.

Although even after the knees were replaced they are not as good as
new...my back sure feels a lot better now.

I have been sort of forced to learn how to repair laptops now...as
towers and desktops are not as prevalent as they once were.

I look at laptops more as watch repair though.

I fix computers all the time and replace screens in laptops. I picked up
three broken laptops from a pawn shop for $100 and was able to get two
of them working right away because they had software problems and dead
batteries. Another thing I do is get batteries and chargers for folks
who have dead laptops. Of the three laptops I bought one is a 17"
Toshiba with a full sized keyboard having the numeral keys on the right
side. I got it so I could watch movies and surf the web while I was in
my hospital bed. The Toshiba has Win Vista and the smaller HP has Win 7
the third laptop has some sort of BIOS problem which prevents it from
accessing the internal hard drive, It runs fine off a live Linux CD.
I've got quite a collection of different laptops and desktops now and
have a lot of fun with computers. ^_^

TDD