30-second video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE

On 9/14/2011 5:48 PM, HeyBub wrote:
30-second video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE



That's a very old trick - used to use the unglazed rim of old stoneware
mixing bowls.

HeyBub wrote the following:
30-second video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE

That's good to know. I'll have to remember that if I lose my knife
sharpening steel that came with the kitchen knife set.
At least til then, I won't have to dump the coffee from the cup to
sharpen the blade. :-)

BTW, when I lived in the Bronx, NY in the 1940s, a guy used to come
around regularly on a horse drawn cart with a foot operated grinding
wheel and hawked his knife sharpening business. People would come out of
their apartments with handfuls of knives for sharpening.
There was another guy with a horse drawn cart that came around yelling
out "I Cash Clothes" who would pay cash for used clothing.
I wonder if they ever came around at the same time where you could sell
old clothing to the one guy and take the money and get your knives
sharpened by the other guy.



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On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:20:47 -0400, willshak
wrote:

HeyBub wrote the following:
30-second video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE

That's good to know. I'll have to remember that if I lose my knife
sharpening steel that came with the kitchen knife set.
At least til then, I won't have to dump the coffee from the cup to
sharpen the blade. :-)

BTW, when I lived in the Bronx, NY in the 1940s, a guy used to come
around regularly on a horse drawn cart with a foot operated grinding
wheel and hawked his knife sharpening business. People would come out of
their apartments with handfuls of knives for sharpening.
There was another guy with a horse drawn cart that came around yelling
out "I Cash Clothes" who would pay cash for used clothing.
I wonder if they ever came around at the same time where you could sell
old clothing to the one guy and take the money and get your knives
sharpened by the other guy.

Too bad they dont do stuff like that anymore......

I've sharpened knives and other things, like a sickle blade on a brick
or concrete block when I did not have a sharpening stone on hand.
Works quite well. Anything abrasive will work. Emery cloth works
well too, if it's tacked to a block of 2x4. These days, I find a belt
sander works great to get a real sharp blade. If it's really dull,
use a grinder first, then followup with the sander (fine to medium
grit sand paper).

willshak wrote in
m:

BTW, when I lived in the Bronx, NY in the 1940s, a guy used to come
around regularly on a horse drawn cart with a foot operated grinding
wheel and hawked his knife sharpening business. People would come out of
their apartments with handfuls of knives for sharpening.
There was another guy with a horse drawn cart that came around yelling
out "I Cash Clothes" who would pay cash for used clothing.
I wonder if they ever came around at the same time where you could sell
old clothing to the one guy and take the money and get your knives
sharpened by the other guy.


They were different guys in Wageningen, Netherlands as well. Don'tremember
whether they used horsedrawn carts, or special bicycles of this kind
Bakfiets:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/63x7lsq

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On 9/14/2011 9:20 PM, willshak wrote:
HeyBub wrote the following:
30-second video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE

That's good to know. I'll have to remember that if I lose my knife
sharpening steel that came with the kitchen knife set.
At least til then, I won't have to dump the coffee from the cup to
sharpen the blade. :-)

BTW, when I lived in the Bronx, NY in the 1940s, a guy used to come
around regularly on a horse drawn cart with a foot operated grinding
wheel and hawked his knife sharpening business. People would come out of
their apartments with handfuls of knives for sharpening.
There was another guy with a horse drawn cart that came around yelling
out "I Cash Clothes" who would pay cash for used clothing.
I wonder if they ever came around at the same time where you could sell
old clothing to the one guy and take the money and get your knives
sharpened by the other guy.


Could you imagine the police response today if people ran out of their
apartments into the streets carrying a number of knives? ^_^

TDD

I'd be less concerned about the cops, and more expecting the
neighbors to have a major panic attack. Ambulances (plural:
Ambuli?) would be every where.

I remember reading about a man, in his days of youth would
take a .22RF rifle to the dump to shoot rats. Rifle would be
carried across the handlebars of his bicycle. Other than
cops and security guys, I can't remember the last time I've
seen a firearm in public. Of course, I'm in PRNY.

--
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"The Daring Dufas"
wrote in message ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE


BTW, when I lived in the Bronx, NY in the 1940s, a guy
used to come
around regularly on a horse drawn cart with a foot
operated grinding
wheel and hawked his knife sharpening business. People
would come out of
their apartments with handfuls of knives for sharpening.


Could you imagine the police response today if people ran
out of their
apartments into the streets carrying a number of knives? ^_^

TDD

On Oct 24, 7:54*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I'd be less concerned about the cops, and more expecting the
neighbors to have a major panic attack. Ambulances (plural:
Ambuli?) would be every where.

I remember reading about a man, in his days of youth would
take a .22RF rifle to the dump to shoot rats. Rifle would be
carried across the handlebars of his bicycle. Other than
cops and security guys, I can't remember the last time I've
seen a firearm in public. Of course, I'm in PRNY.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prny

?

R

On Oct 24, 4:54*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I'd be less concerned about the cops, and more expecting the
neighbors to have a major panic attack. Ambulances (plural:
Ambuli?) would be every where.

I remember reading about a man, in his days of youth would
take a .22RF rifle to the dump to shoot rats. Rifle would be
carried across the handlebars of his bicycle. Other than
cops and security guys, I can't remember the last time I've
seen a firearm in public. Of course, I'm in PRNY.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"The Daring Dufas"
wrote in ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE

BTW, when I lived in the Bronx, NY in the 1940s, a guy
used to come
around regularly on a horse drawn cart with a foot
operated grinding
wheel and hawked his knife sharpening business. People
would come out of
their apartments with handfuls of knives for sharpening.

Could you imagine the police response today if people ran
out of their
apartments into the streets carrying a number of knives? ^_^

TDD

Or even try this: 1953 I carried a 22 rifle with ammo on a schoolbus
to town to sell. I did get permission fromt he bus driver the day
before though. At this late date, I can't recall if I carried into
the school until I could arrange teh meet with the buyer - another
student.

Harry K

Sounds wise to get permission the day before. Glad it worked
out for you. And, thanks for sharing the memory.

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"Harry K" wrote in message
...

Or even try this: 1953 I carried a 22 rifle with ammo on a
schoolbus
to town to sell. I did get permission fromt he bus driver
the day
before though. At this late date, I can't recall if I
carried into
the school until I could arrange teh meet with the buyer -
another
student.

Harry K

On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:10:01 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Could you imagine the police response today if people ran out of their
apartments into the streets carrying a number of knives? ^_^

TDD

But wait. I heard a banging noise on the front door. I happened to
have a hatchet in my hand when I exited the garage and rounded the
corner: "What do you want?!! I asked the young fellow.

It must have nearly made him need a laundry change.

He said. "You have a hatchet, You have a hatchet."

"Sure I do", I informed him.

As he walked away down the walk. "You have a hatchet!" he kept
repeating.

He never came back or was police called or involved.

I still need to sharpen that hatchet :-/

One elderly fellow, in his early 90s. Right after church. He
asked me what were the yellow things in my shirt pocket. One
is a small screw driver. Which really comes in handy. Other
is a Stanley knife with break away blade, I got at Home
Depot. As I pulled out the utility knife and slid the blade
out a bit, his eyes grew wide. As if a 90 year old man had
never seen a knife.

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"Oren" wrote in message
...

But wait. I heard a banging noise on the front door. I
happened to
have a hatchet in my hand when I exited the garage and
rounded the
corner: "What do you want?!! I asked the young fellow.

It must have nearly made him need a laundry change.

He said. "You have a hatchet, You have a hatchet."

"Sure I do", I informed him.

As he walked away down the walk. "You have a hatchet!" he
kept
repeating.

He never came back or was police called or involved.

I still need to sharpen that hatchet :-/

On 10/24/2011 7:10 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 9/14/2011 9:20 PM, willshak wrote:
HeyBub wrote the following:
30-second video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE

That's good to know. I'll have to remember that if I lose my knife
sharpening steel that came with the kitchen knife set.
At least til then, I won't have to dump the coffee from the cup to
sharpen the blade. :-)

I happened to try a stoneware bowl instead of a coffee mug a week or so
ago and my girlfriend said her grandmother and mother used to sharpen
their knives like that all the time. Oh, and the girlfriend said the
knife worked GREAT after the sharpening, better than with the cheap
knife sharpener I normally use.

And the "sharpening steel" technically doesn't sharpen a knife, it just
"puts a edge on it" whatever the hell that means I don't exactly know.

On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:54:25 -0400, Tony Miklos wrote:

On 10/24/2011 7:10 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 9/14/2011 9:20 PM, willshak wrote:
HeyBub wrote the following:
30-second video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE

That's good to know. I'll have to remember that if I lose my knife
sharpening steel that came with the kitchen knife set.
At least til then, I won't have to dump the coffee from the cup to
sharpen the blade. :-)

I happened to try a stoneware bowl instead of a coffee mug a week or so
ago and my girlfriend said her grandmother and mother used to sharpen
their knives like that all the time. Oh, and the girlfriend said the
knife worked GREAT after the sharpening, better than with the cheap
knife sharpener I normally use.

And the "sharpening steel" technically doesn't sharpen a knife, it just
"puts a edge on it" whatever the hell that means I don't exactly know.

It "unrolls" the curl at the edge.

On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 8:19:23 AM UTC-7, Bewett Miller wrote:
Sorry, an old post I know, but my Steel does sharpen my knives.

My steel is not just a piece of steel like a large nail, it is like a

file with the ridges parallel to the handle. And a dull knife does

get sharp.

Normally steels just straighten the edge.

Thanks





And the "sharpening steel" technically doesn't sharpen a knife, it just

"puts a edge on it" whatever the hell that means I don't exactly know.



It "unrolls" the curl at the edge.

Your description of your steel is exactly what a steel is. As for using one to sharpen a knife? Faster to use a stone and do it right then 'steel' it.

Harry K

On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:20:47 PM UTC-4, willshak wrote:
HeyBub wrote the following:

30-second video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vi2gzCrS-fE



That's good to know. I'll have to remember that if I lose my knife

sharpening steel that came with the kitchen knife set.

At least til then, I won't have to dump the coffee from the cup to

sharpen the blade. :-)



BTW, when I lived in the Bronx, NY in the 1940s, a guy used to come

around regularly on a horse drawn cart with a foot operated grinding

wheel and hawked his knife sharpening business. People would come out of

their apartments with handfuls of knives for sharpening.

There was another guy with a horse drawn cart that came around yelling

out "I Cash Clothes" who would pay cash for used clothing.

I wonder if they ever came around at the same time where you could sell

old clothing to the one guy and take the money and get your knives

sharpened by the other guy.







--



Bill

In Hamptonburgh, NY

In the original Orange County. Est. 1683

To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Our local fine wine shoppe started advertising recently that a sharpener would be at the store every Thursday evening to sharpen whatever you needed sharpened; knives, chisels, etc.

When I was a kid in the early 1950's there was a guy who came through my grandmother's neighborhood buying scrap material for resale, crying "Paper! Rags!" He was known as the pepper-X man from his accented call. My grandfather used to save newspapers and tinfoil from his cigarette packs to sell to him.

Paul

Today you'd be expelled from school if a teacher even found out about those plans. Then, they probably wouldn't let you back into the school until they'd done a number of psychiatric assessments to see how crazy you were and how much of a risk you posed to society. In this case, the school staff can be more of a threat to the student than the weapon itself.

Pavel314 wrote in
:

Our local fine wine shoppe started advertising recently that a
sharpener would be at the store every Thursday evening to sharpen
whatever you needed sharpened; knives, chisels, etc.

When I was a kid in Chicago in the late 30s & 40s IIRC we had a guy with
a cart come around through the alley yelling his wares and he would
sharpen stuff.

When I was a kid in the early 1950's there was a guy who came through
my grandmother's neighborhood buying scrap material for resale, crying
"Paper! Rags!" He was known as the pepper-X man from his accented
call. My grandfather used to save newspapers and tinfoil from his
cigarette packs to sell to him.

I think we had one of those too. And an iceman who came down the street
filling ice boxes. We had a little sign in the window that, depending on
which side was up, told him how much. I think his name was Tony. And some
other venders I can't remember details of.

A far different world from today!





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when something closes the door from the inside.

Harry K wrote:
Your description of your steel is exactly what a steel is. As for
using one to sharpen a knife? Faster to use a stone and do it right
then 'steel' it.

Really? I've found that 30 seconds with a steel does wonders. I watched a
butcher once use a steel on the hosts knife at a party, then use it to slice the
hairs off the back of his hand. I haven't figured out the trick for that.

On 8/15/2014 9:09 AM, Bob F wrote:

Really? I've found that 30 seconds with a steel does wonders. I watched a
butcher once use a steel on the hosts knife at a party, then use it to slice the
hairs off the back of his hand. I haven't figured out the trick for that.


I worked for a guy who did similar to that. He
used to put a bit of saliva on the back of his
hand first. Wonder if that does any thing?


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On 2014-08-15, Bob F wrote:

hairs off the back of his hand. I haven't figured out the trick for that.

Not a trick, jes a sharp knife.

nb

On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 06:09:06 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:

Harry K wrote:
Your description of your steel is exactly what a steel is. As for
using one to sharpen a knife? Faster to use a stone and do it right
then 'steel' it.

Really? I've found that 30 seconds with a steel does wonders. I watched a
butcher once use a steel on the hosts knife at a party, then use it to slice the
hairs off the back of his hand. I haven't figured out the trick for that.


While in the Navy I had patches of my arms and legs shaved bare,
testing my Case Trapper. Honed it on my leather boot.
Only real use I had for that knife. Honing and shaving hair to test
it.

On 2014-08-15, Vic Smith wrote:

While in the Navy I had patches of my arms and legs shaved bare,
testing my Case Trapper. Honed it on my leather boot.
Only real use I had for that knife. Honing and shaving hair to test
it.

I can do that with my disposable BIC shaver. No boot necessary.

nb

On 8/14/2014 1:48 PM, KenK wrote:
Pavel314 wrote in
:

Our local fine wine shoppe started advertising recently that a
sharpener would be at the store every Thursday evening to sharpen
whatever you needed sharpened; knives, chisels, etc.

When I was a kid in Chicago in the late 30s & 40s IIRC we had a guy with
a cart come around through the alley yelling his wares and he would
sharpen stuff.

When I was a kid in the early 1950's there was a guy who came through
my grandmother's neighborhood buying scrap material for resale, crying
"Paper! Rags!" He was known as the pepper-X man from his accented
call. My grandfather used to save newspapers and tinfoil from his
cigarette packs to sell to him.

I think we had one of those too. And an iceman who came down the street
filling ice boxes. We had a little sign in the window that, depending on
which side was up, told him how much. I think his name was Tony. And some
other venders I can't remember details of.

A far different world from today!


And, as he pedaled this cart, there was a distinctive ding (hi) ding
(lower) bells ringing. Everyone knew that the sharpener guy was around.
I lived in Cicero!

On Friday, August 15, 2014 6:09:06 AM UTC-7, Bob F wrote:
Harry K wrote:
Your description of your steel is exactly what a steel is. As for
using one to sharpen a knife? Faster to use a stone and do it right
then 'steel' it.

Really? I've found that 30 seconds with a steel does wonders. I watched a
butcher once use a steel on the hosts knife at a party, then use it to slice the
hairs off the back of his hand. I haven't figured out the trick for that.

That is what is known as HONING which is done after you sharpen a knife. Same as using a razor strop on a straight edge razor.

Yes, it will bring an edge back even on a somewhat dull knife but it will take longer to get it "scary sharp". Right tool for the right job and all that.

Harry K

Bewett Miller wrote:
Sorry, an old post I know, but my Steel does sharpen my knives.
My steel is not just a piece of steel like a large nail, it is like a
file with the ridges parallel to the handle. And a dull knife does
get sharp.
Normally steels just straighten the edge.
Thanks


And the "sharpening steel" technically doesn't sharpen a knife, it just
"puts a edge on it" whatever the hell that means I don't exactly know.

It "unrolls" the curl at the edge.

A sharp knife has a microscopically thin edge, and that edge gets bent,
or curled, with use.

The steel straightens that bend, but with enough use, the edge will
break off. Once it is broken, the steel will do nothing but make noise,
and the knife has to be sharpened.

So someone who needs a very sharp knife, like a chef, a butcher, or a
cook, will have a set of knives that are kept in a protective sheathe or
case, and the first thing they do when they start work is to steel the
knife. But, depending on the metal used in making the knife, periodic
sharpening needs to be done not infrequently.

We shop at a market that has many stalls for butchers. A truck comes
around, I believe weekly, and sharpens their knives. But the butcher
himself has only a steel, no sharpening equipment.

notbob wrote:
On 2014-08-15, Bob F wrote:

hairs off the back of his hand. I haven't figured out the trick for
that.

Not a trick, jes a sharp knife.

The trick would be getting a dull knife that sharp in less than a minute.

Not@home wrote:
Bewett Miller wrote:
Sorry, an old post I know, but my Steel does sharpen my knives.
My steel is not just a piece of steel like a large nail, it is like a
file with the ridges parallel to the handle. And a dull knife does
get sharp.
Normally steels just straighten the edge.
Thanks


And the "sharpening steel" technically doesn't sharpen a knife, it
just "puts a edge on it" whatever the hell that means I don't
exactly know.

It "unrolls" the curl at the edge.

A sharp knife has a microscopically thin edge, and that edge gets
bent, or curled, with use.

The steel straightens that bend, but with enough use, the edge will
break off. Once it is broken, the steel will do nothing but make
noise, and the knife has to be sharpened.

I've been using a steel only on my good kitchen knife for 30 years or so, and
the steel still seems to keep it pretty sharp.

On Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:30:56 PM UTC-7, Bob F wrote:
Not@home wrote:

Bewett Miller wrote:

Sorry, an old post I know, but my Steel does sharpen my knives.

My steel is not just a piece of steel like a large nail, it is like a

file with the ridges parallel to the handle. And a dull knife does

get sharp.

Normally steels just straighten the edge.

Thanks





And the "sharpening steel" technically doesn't sharpen a knife, it

just "puts a edge on it" whatever the hell that means I don't

exactly know.



It "unrolls" the curl at the edge.



A sharp knife has a microscopically thin edge, and that edge gets

bent, or curled, with use.



The steel straightens that bend, but with enough use, the edge will

break off. Once it is broken, the steel will do nothing but make

noise, and the knife has to be sharpened.



I've been using a steel only on my good kitchen knife for 30 years or so, and

the steel still seems to keep it pretty sharp.

That is what regular honing will do.

Watch a clip or two of butchers at work and you will see them taking swipes at the steels fixed above their bench every few minutes.

I suppose it would be possible to 'sharpen' a dull knife using only a steel but it would take awhile is the wrong tool for the job.

Harry K