"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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On 3/23/2010 9:33 PM, LDosser wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:54:03 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
scrawled the following:

"CW" wrote in message
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"LDosser" wrote in message
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Illegal Aliens. They deserve a bus ride to the Mexican border.


It's been tried. They generally beat the bus back.


Razor wire backed by an electric fence - the kind the Gestapo used.

My favorite fantasy is a vaporizing laser system on both borders.
No fuss, no muss, no burial fees, no transportation fees, no legal
fees, just a big puff of smoke as you're instantly toasted. The perp's
minerals will enrich the ground they drop to.


And the borders could serve as a weapons testing ground. I like it!

cough due process cough

And you really think you're good Americans don't you.


Well, we do seem to have a sense of humor. You, OTOH ...

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
On 3/23/2010 8:37 PM, LDosser wrote:
"Upscale" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:22:01 -0400, wrote:

40 Percent of personal bankruptcies caused by health care costs were
people WHO HAD INSURANCE. Various caps, exclusions, and limits kicked
in and ruined them.

Even if that's so, what's your point? What I can see is that there's
serious problems in the US and other places with healthcare. Everybody
who is crying foul about the currently health care legislation that's
coming into effect have conveniently neglected to offer some effective
solution to the current and increasing problem.

Maybe the currently legislation will screw things up worse, who knows?
But just maybe, it might be the beginning of something better. Sure
there's going to be growing pains, but just maintaining status quo
does not seem to be working out very well.


Oh, no question we'll move from the status quo. Expect insurance rates
to rise by a Significant amount, thus creating more uninsured.

You're not allowed to be uninsured anymore. They can confiscate your
property for that now.

Not yet. 2014.


Also
expect all the new taxes through 2013 will be used as general fund
revenue. When the money is actually needed starting in 2014 we'll borrow
it from the Chinese or whoever is stupid enough to loan it to us. Maybe
Venezuela.

"Perk" wrote in message
m...
Swingman wrote:
On 3/23/2010 8:35 PM, LDosser wrote:

If you do not have a job now forget it.
It's already a third world country. The only difference is it will
soon be a third world country where even the poor don't have to die
because they cannot afford to see a doctor.


They'll just die waiting on line clutching a number ...

Poetry ...


THE SKY IS FALLING !!! THE SKY IS FALLING !!! SKY IS FALLING
!!! THE SKY IS FALLING !!! THE SKY IS FALLING !!!

THE SKY IS FALLING !!! And _ _ _ _ _ ETC ! ! !


Three letters: NHS

"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
m...
LDosser wrote:

"Jack Stein" wrote in message
...
Mark & Juanita wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:

, so hang on and enjoy the ride.

Nyet, comrade.


Those legislators who have decided to govern against the will of the
people (anywhere from 60 to 80% opposition depending upon the poll)
have
sown the wind. They can expect to reap the whirlwind come November.

Depends on how many fake voter registrations ACORN can get going so the
votes don't exceed the number of registered voters., and if the
socialist
*******s can get the illegal alien vote legalized... well, it's over.

ACORN is Folding.

Nah, just re-constituting. The name will change, the fraud and deceit
will continue, just under a new name -- maybe PINE or PONDEROSA, but same
bunch.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...0,186369.story
--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

Han wrote:

Me, I'm FOR a public option (option, not compulsion), and FOR using
insurance to guarantee a woman's right to use abortion. I'm not in
favor of abortion other than as a last resort. I'm also in favor of
teaching birth control to kids.

There are many good arguments on both sides of the abortion issue.
Heart-felt, logical, and compelling.

After studying all the positions, I come down on the side of abortion on
demand for one little-mentioned effect: it reduces the number of liberals
amongst us. The progressives eat their seed-corn (figuratively, of course).

In 1982, it was estimated there were 50,000 abortions in Florida. Had these
abortions not taken place, these kids would have grown and would have been
of voting age in the year 2000.

Some would have died, some moved away, some institutionalized (i.e., jail).
Some would have come to Jesus and some would have rebelled against their
parents. A huge number would not have voted in the 2000 elections. Still,
even after all that, there were probably 10,000 votes that Al Gore did not
get.

Bush won Florida, and the election, by 500-odd votes.

A more scholarly discussion can be found under "Roe Effect."

On 3/24/2010 3:39 AM, LDosser wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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On 3/23/2010 9:32 PM, LDosser wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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On 3/23/2010 6:09 PM, LDosser wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
On 3/23/2010 1:54 AM, LDosser wrote:
"CW" wrote in message
...

"LDosser" wrote in message
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Illegal Aliens. They deserve a bus ride to the Mexican border.


It's been tried. They generally beat the bus back.


Razor wire backed by an electric fence - the kind the Gestapo used.

And yet somehow Chuck Yeager and thousands of other downed airmen
managed to walk out of occupied Europe. Their "razor wire backed
by an
electric fence" wasn't even effective in keeping people inside a
prison.





Apples and Oranges

How so? Are you saying that Mexicans are less creative than Frenchmen?


Are you comparing Mexico to a prison?

My point is that the Gestapo's razor wire could not keep people in a
little tiny prison, let alone a whole country, hence the notion that
"razor wire backed by an electric fence" will keep Mexicans out of the
US is wishful thinking.


No, it isn't. Escaping from the Gestapo was risking life to save your life.

And being in fear for your life makes razor wire and electric fences
more penetrable how?

On 3/24/2010 3:40 AM, LDosser wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
On 3/23/2010 9:33 PM, LDosser wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:54:03 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
scrawled the following:

"CW" wrote in message
...

"LDosser" wrote in message
...

Illegal Aliens. They deserve a bus ride to the Mexican border.


It's been tried. They generally beat the bus back.


Razor wire backed by an electric fence - the kind the Gestapo used.

My favorite fantasy is a vaporizing laser system on both borders.
No fuss, no muss, no burial fees, no transportation fees, no legal
fees, just a big puff of smoke as you're instantly toasted. The perp's
minerals will enrich the ground they drop to.


And the borders could serve as a weapons testing ground. I like it!

cough due process cough

And you really think you're good Americans don't you.


Well, we do seem to have a sense of humor. You, OTOH ...

Such suggestions were funny when I was 9. I outgrew them. Maybe you
should.

Upscale wrote:

Isn't it funny how almost everybody in the US that is against
universal health care is currently protected by some sort of medical
plan? What about all those literally millions and millions of US
citizens that aren't covered by anything?

What about them?

They're your people and they
are part of what makes the US such a great nation. Don't they deserve
some sort of health protection.

They have it. By most metrics, the most destitute in the U.S. get better
care than the upper classes in England.


I once stated that the most important human right was to be healthy.

Every "right" someone claims imposes a "duty" on someone else. Every single
one. When I am FORCED to diminish my life so that someone else's life can be
made better, there must be a compelling reason.

Mill jumped in and stated that it was freedom. The fact is that
illness and especially chronic illness without health care is a loss
of freedom that the healthy can never possibly comprehend.

Choices have consequences. One who chooses a dissolute life-style - or even
one who failed to provide for his own contingencies - must face the harvest
of that which he sowed.

Larry Jaques wrote:

My favorite fantasy is a vaporizing laser system on both borders.
No fuss, no muss, no burial fees, no transportation fees, no legal
fees, just a big puff of smoke as you're instantly toasted. The perp's
minerals will enrich the ground they drop to.

Douglas McArthur suggested a five-mile radioactive swath between the two
Koreas.

At the least if would make killing the infiltrators easier since they'd glow
in the dark.

On 3/24/2010 3:42 AM, LDosser wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
On 3/23/2010 8:37 PM, LDosser wrote:
"Upscale" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:22:01 -0400, wrote:

40 Percent of personal bankruptcies caused by health care costs were
people WHO HAD INSURANCE. Various caps, exclusions, and limits kicked
in and ruined them.

Even if that's so, what's your point? What I can see is that there's
serious problems in the US and other places with healthcare. Everybody
who is crying foul about the currently health care legislation that's
coming into effect have conveniently neglected to offer some effective
solution to the current and increasing problem.

Maybe the currently legislation will screw things up worse, who knows?
But just maybe, it might be the beginning of something better. Sure
there's going to be growing pains, but just maintaining status quo
does not seem to be working out very well.


Oh, no question we'll move from the status quo. Expect insurance rates
to rise by a Significant amount, thus creating more uninsured.

You're not allowed to be uninsured anymore. They can confiscate your
property for that now.

Not yet. 2014.

A technicality. The law is passed.

Also
expect all the new taxes through 2013 will be used as general fund
revenue. When the money is actually needed starting in 2014 we'll borrow
it from the Chinese or whoever is stupid enough to loan it to us. Maybe
Venezuela.

On Mar 24, 1:06*am, Mark & Juanita wrote:


2) The Republicans always have to have a margin of victory that exceeds the
margin of vote fraud. *In this case, the anger is so significant, the margin
of fraud would be noticeable even to the leftist media.


*shaking my head in disbelief*
YOU dare to talk about vote fraud after what happened in 2000 Florida?

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:30:07 -0700, Mark & Juanita
Math is not exactly your strong suit, is it?

You don't read too well do you?

That's 27% fewer doctors per 10,0000 people compared to the US (referenced
to the US allocation, 37% fewer referenced to the Canadian allocation) . It
also means that the US has about 385 people per doctor while Canada has 526
people per doctor. A difference of 142 people per doctor seems pretty
significant.

It is significant until you read further and see that the US spends
approximately twice the amount of money per capita on its medical
services. If Canada spent an equivalent percentage of money, it would
have more doctors per capita that the US.

Guess you're not too bright either.

If medical care in the US is not better than Canada, why did one of your
country's leaders elect to have his heart surgery done in the US rather than
Canada? Why do Canadians who can afford it coming to the US for treatment
rather than enduring the waiting list in the equivalent care Canada?

Doesn't necessarily make US medical service better, just faster in
this case. Money usually does that.

If the US is so much better, then why hasn't he moved permanently to
the US. He can afford it. The answer is that there's many things he
likes better in Canada. Guess the US isn't perfect with everything eh?

Twit!

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:24:13 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
wrote:

And the defense of stealing continues ... at least you're consistent
if entirely devoid of moral conscience...

Figured you'd open your yap eventually. Apparently, over 50% of the US
population agrees with me putting you into the whining minority.

With any luck, you'll get charged twice the amount of medical
insurance and die of a coronary.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:02:52 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Suppose the government told you that you _must_ buy a Unisaw whether you
want one or not and whether you can afford one or not. Would you say
that that was acceptable? If not then why is them telling you that you
_must_ buy insurance acceptable?

To bolster your argument you're comparing a table saw to country wide
health insurance?

That's not even remotely on the level of an apples and oranges
comparison. It's just a fall flat, 6 1/2 IQ demonstration of shooting
your foot off with a bazooka.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:10:04 -0500, Morris Dovey
wrote:

Good point!

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:07:59 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Choices have consequences. One who chooses a dissolute life-style - or even
one who failed to provide for his own contingencies - must face the harvest
of that which he sowed.

And, that is what has come to pass. The US people made a choice on a
particular leader and that leader has made a choice on healthcare. Cry
in your soup as much as you want, but deal with it instead of doing
all this shrill whining and running around that the sky is falling.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:37:41 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

Oh, no question we'll move from the status quo. Expect insurance rates to
rise by a Significant amount, thus creating more uninsured. Also expect all
the new taxes through 2013 will be used as general fund revenue. When the
money is actually needed starting in 2014 we'll borrow it from the Chinese
or whoever is stupid enough to loan it to us. Maybe Venezuela.

And wasn't all this done years ago when most services and
manufacturing were shipped off shore? Blame this new health
legislation all you want, but it seems to me that the US (and much of
Canada too) screwed themselves a long time ago by shipping everything
off shore and did so all in the name of immediate profit and gouging.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:04:29 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

You're not allowed to be uninsured anymore. They can confiscate your
property for that now.

Absolutely nothing new there. It's just a different sort of tax,
similar to the confiscation ability your IRS has had and used for
many, many years. Feeble attempt to make it sound like something new
and different.

"Leon" wrote in message
...

I assure you that health care will double in cost with the government
involved. It seems that with more unemployeed, the more the government
comes up with programs to employee those people, productive or not. Its
wellfare.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/2...110/32310.html

Robatoy wrote:
On Mar 23, 5:25 pm, Jack Stein wrote:

It's always a hoot when Jack falls off the wagon.

Translation: Robocop is too freaking dumb to muster a meaningful
response. Which in his case means he ran out of childish, vitriolic
invective.

Jack, please read this when you're sober again:

WHY would I muster a meaningful response to your posts, eh? What would
be the point?

True, you seldom are other than pointless, but watching you make the
effort is sometimes amusing, mostly trying, but hey, I got the time to
waste.

For openers, my Mac doesn't have the Crayon font, and I really, truly
have nothing to say to you.

If you scribbled in crayon, do you think your pointlessness would
resolve itself? Nope, not much chance.

You have blatantly exposed yourself to what you are and aren't.

Writing in a public forum can do that. I'm a "douche-nozzle", right?

What really makes me happy is that you keep mentioning the 'douche-
nozzle' label I gave you.
I must have cut you a little, eh?

Actually, I enjoyed it and found it rather useful in an amusing way.
I doubt it would have more meaning if you wrote it in crayon, but give
it a try if you wish.

--
Jack
Got Change: More Government, More Taxes, Less Freedom!
http://jbstein.com

On 3/24/2010 10:13 AM, Upscale wrote:

And, that is what has come to pass. The US people made a choice on a
particular leader and that leader has made a choice on healthcare. Cry
in your soup as much as you want, but deal with it instead of doing
all this shrill whining and running around that the sky is falling.

Well said!

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

LDosser wrote:
"Jack Stein" wrote in message

Those legislators who have decided to govern against the will of
the people (anywhere from 60 to 80% opposition depending upon the
poll) have sown the wind. They can expect to reap the whirlwind come
November.

Depends on how many fake voter registrations ACORN can get going so
the votes don't exceed the number of registered voters., and if the
socialist *******s can get the illegal alien vote legalized... well,
it's over.

ACORN is Folding.

I heard today Obama has reopened the taxpayers money drain into ACORNS
pockets. There is no way the socialist democratic party will let ACORN
die since ACORN is 100% socialist democrat supporter, and best of all
gets taxpayer money to fund its dirty work. Even if the name changes,
it is still ACORN, with it's several hundred corrupt fronts.
--
Jack
Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
http://jbstein.com

Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:06:07 -0700, busbus wrote:

The biggest thing I have a problem with is the fact that this bill has
more-or-less completely broken the back of our constitution and the
government our founding fathers created way back when.

I'm getting a little tired of this specious argument.

Left sing progressives generally do get tired of the constitution, thats
WHY it was written.

When the
Constitution was written, medical care consisted of setting bones,
amputating gangrenous limbs, and bloodletting. Everything else was home
remedies. And I forgot, treating STDs with mercury. They didn't even
know what bacteria were. And sterilizing instruments? Hah!

Of course there was no provision for helth care - it didn't exist.

Auto companies didn't exist then either, so I guess you're OK with the
government owning GM and Chrysler, right?

And if they had put something in it would only have applied to white male
property owners.

I guess you can cite a part of the constitution that pertains to just
"white" males, right?

The constitution according to Blanchard:
"We, the [white] people of the US....

--
Jack
Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
John Adams
http://jbstein.com

Han wrote:
Jack Stein wrote in -
september.org:

Han wrote:

I'm also in favor of teaching birth control to kids.

You're not allowed to teach your kids birth control?

Where *do* you live?

I thought I knew English reasonably well, so pardon my surprise at your
question. I live in New Jersey, Bergen county.

So you are saying you are not allowed to teach your kids birth control
in Bergen county New Jersey?

Damn, government control has gotten way out of hand in your area, you
should move...

Well, if you don't wish to move to a state that supports the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights, I suggest you point out Article I
to your local dictator. If you can't straighten things out with Article
I, perhaps Article II can give you some help... Good luck.

--
Jack
The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
http://jbstein.com

Bill wrote:


I didn't read many posts before I jumped in. But, what's the
difference between
what you described above and taxation? I think the newly proposed
system is intended to help the poor--yes, at a cost to those that are
in a better position.
But....as you know, our health care system costs are wrecking havoc
on our country.
FWIW, I have republican ideals but I am sensitive to the needs of the
mentally
disabled, for instance, too. Some folks need medicine more than they
need a Unisaw. One could argue that health is a more basic need than
that of machinery.
I believe we are to great a country to allow people to suffer because
they don't
have a health care plan.


I know I'm going to regret jumping into this pond. I just damned well know
it...

We already have comprehensive health care for all classes of people. The
existing programs have some problems and need some tweaking. Some of that
tweaking is really not all that difficult. For example - it's easy to
re-legislate Medicare such that a family does not have to sacrifice their
entire life's efforts, or reach a point of being completely destitute, in
order to qualify, or realize the benefits. Likewise Medicaid. It would not
take an awful lot to make those programs more serving than they currently
are. To cater to the leftists out there, it would not even take a lot to
regulate the health care industry such that profits, compensation, etc. that
seem to so anger some, are held to what they consider more reasonable
levels.

Yeah - taxes would pay for this. They already do to a very large extent.
Reorganization would not require new taxes, but would require more brain
work than most government employess exhibit. Fixing what is broken is a
better approach than engineering a new system. But - that also takes more
effort, since engineering a new approach has the advantage of starting of
vague, and building upon a bunch of promises. Promises - the things
politicians are made of - they just don't deliver on them.

--

-Mike-

Robatoy wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:47 pm, Swingman wrote:
On 3/23/2010 9:10 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:



I agree ...

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Nobody says it quite like Morris.

You do, just with more words...

--
Jack
Obama Ca Efficiency of the DMV, compassion of the IRS!
http://jbstein.com

Morris Dovey wrote:


Neener, neener - my fantasies are better than your fantasies!

http://images.google.com/images?q=mexican%20actresses



Damnit - stop that!!!

--

-Mike-

Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Morris Dovey" wrote:

Neener, neener - my fantasies are better than your fantasies!

http://images.google.com/images?q=mexican%20actresses

I'm with Mooris.


Oh bull**** Lew. You remember the time that you were with Morris.
Vaguely...

--

-Mike-

J. Clarke wrote:

My point is that the Gestapo's razor wire could not keep people in a
little tiny prison, let alone a whole country, hence the notion that
"razor wire backed by an electric fence" will keep Mexicans out of the
US is wishful thinking.

Didn't do too bad containing the East Germans.

--
Jack
Socialized losses are not what make Capitalism Work!
http://jbstein.com

J. Clarke wrote:

Whether it works well is irrelevant. Whether one benefits is
irrelevant. The issue is the power of the government to compel someone
to purchase a commercial product. If they can order you to purchase
insurance, what prevents them from ordering you to purchase a Unisaw?

Good point. Expanding on that, what they want is "single payer" or
socialized, government controlled and owned medical system. This never
works, and is anti-American to the extreme. The US government is not to
be in the business of business. The socialist democrats have usurped GM
and Chrysler, about taken over the banking industry, education, public
transit, gambling, sports stadiums, in my state liquor stores and who
know what else.

Now they want the big enchilada, health care. People generally lose
more and more as big brother clenches his powerful, tyrannical jaws
around freedom.

--
Jack
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
enough to take everything you have".
-- Thomas Jefferson
http://jbstein.com

Mark & Juanita wrote:

Gallup poll was skewed. Democrat/Republican/Independent internals skewed
heavily Democrat. It was also adults vs. likely voters. Rasmussen poll of
likely voters shows 41% favor, 54% opposed. Intensity of likely voters is
also significant: 26% strongly favor, 45% strongly oppose. You do the math
regarding what that means for November

The math would be much easier if someone could get a handle on ACORN and
voter fraud. ACORN is being prosecuted in 14 states at least for
registering fake voters.

I've heard that several areas had more people voting than people
registered to vote. This can be very embarrassing for the socialist
*******s that are "stuffing" the ballad boxes, so, the big push has been
on to get people to register their collective little asses off. I saw
one guy on TV state he registered 76 times hisself, using various names.

Real Americans will need to come out enforce to overwhelm the current
level of voter fraud, and if they succeed, one of the first orders of
business must be to figure out a way to make sure voters are actually
alive and well, and voting just once.

Once the socialist *******s legalize all the illegal aliens, you can bet
they will automatically be registered to vote. Personally, I don't
think it matters too much if they vote, just so the voting numbers don't
exceed the registered number.

Remember that to a socialist progressive, the ends justifies the means,
which is why the red little ****ers have killed 100's of millions of
innocent people last century alone. A little voter fraud just ain't a
big deal to them.

--
Jack
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy
out of prosperity.
http://jbstein.com

On Mar 24, 1:16*pm, Jack Stein wrote:
Mark & Juanita wrote:
* Gallup poll was skewed. *Democrat/Republican/Independent internals skewed
heavily Democrat. *It was also adults vs. likely voters. *Rasmussen poll of
likely voters shows 41% favor, 54% opposed. *Intensity of likely voters is
also significant: 26% strongly favor, 45% strongly oppose. *You do the math
regarding what that means for November

The math would be much easier if someone could get a handle on ACORN and
voter fraud. *ACORN is being prosecuted in 14 states at least for
registering fake voters.

I've heard that several areas had more people voting than people
registered to vote. *This can be very embarrassing for the socialist
*******s that are "stuffing" the ballad boxes, so, the big push has been
on to get people to register their collective little asses off. *I saw
one guy on TV state he registered 76 times hisself, using various names.

Real Americans will need to come out enforce to overwhelm the current
level of voter fraud, and if they succeed, one of the first orders of
business must be to figure out a way to make sure voters are actually
alive and well, and voting just once.

Once the socialist *******s legalize all the illegal aliens, you can bet
they will automatically be registered to vote. *Personally, I don't
think it matters too much if they vote, just so the voting numbers don't
exceed the registered number.

Remember that to a socialist progressive, the ends justifies the means,
which is why the red little ****ers have killed 100's of millions of
innocent people last century alone. *A little voter fraud just ain't a
big deal to them.



B & B used to stand for Bed & Breakfast. In Jack's world, it stands
for Beck & Bourbon.

On Mar 24, 12:08*pm, Jack Stein wrote:
LDosser wrote:
"Jack Stein" wrote in message
* Those legislators who have decided to govern against the will of
the people (anywhere from 60 to 80% opposition depending upon the
poll) have sown the wind. *They can expect to reap the whirlwind come
November.

Depends on how many fake voter registrations ACORN can get going so
the votes don't exceed the number of registered voters., and if the
socialist *******s can get the illegal alien vote legalized... well,
it's over.
ACORN is Folding.

I heard today Obama has ---- blah blah blah

Bourbon, Beck and now hearing voices....COOL! We have a whole new
source for the crazeee. Fun!

Mark & Juanita wrote:
Jack Stein wrote:

2) The Republicans always have to have a margin of victory that exceeds the
margin of vote fraud. In this case, the anger is so significant, the margin
of fraud would be noticeable even to the leftist media.

Don't ever underestimate the left wing media machine. I would think any
voting district that had more voters than registered voters would be BIG
news, and HOTLY investigated and prosecuted. Nope, hardly raised an
eyebrow.

Anyway, an example of the effects of ACORN is Al Franken, socialist
******* from Minnesota. Franken won by 312 votes. ACORN claimed to have
registered 48,000. The fact ACORN uses tax money to registers ONLY
socialist Democrats, and the fact ACORN is guilty as hell in
registration fraud makes the math a little hard to do.

--
Jack
Got Change: Now CHANGE IT BACK!
http://jbstein.com

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:13:44 -0500, Upscale
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:07:59 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Choices have consequences. One who chooses a dissolute life-style - or even
one who failed to provide for his own contingencies - must face the harvest
of that which he sowed.

And, that is what has come to pass. The US people made a choice on a
particular leader and that leader has made a choice on healthcare. Cry
in your soup as much as you want, but deal with it instead of doing
all this shrill whining and running around that the sky is falling.

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of
entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be easier to
limit and undo the follies of an Obama Presidency than to restore the
necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate
willing to have such a man for their President.

“The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who
is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools
should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him
their prince.

“The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a
fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those
who made him their president."

-- Author Unknown

Bill wrote:

FWIW, I have republican ideals but I am sensitive to the needs of the
mentally disabled, for instance, too.

The mentally disabled, and all disabled for that matter, are eligible in
the US for free medical, including prescriptions, as long as they don't
have, and can't afford to pay their own way. This is via the SSI
program, or, Supplemental Security Income program administered by the
Social Security Administration.

--
Jack
Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
http://jbstein.com

"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
...

I know I'm going to regret jumping into this pond. I just damned well
know it...


I had exactly the same gut-feelings! : ) Probably we're not the only ones.

Bill

Robatoy wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:06 am, Mark & Juanita wrote:

2) The Republicans always have to have a margin of victory that exceeds the
margin of vote fraud. In this case, the anger is so significant, the margin
of fraud would be noticeable even to the leftist media.


*shaking my head in disbelief*
YOU dare to talk about vote fraud after what happened in 2000 Florida?

You mean when a few socialist, democratic controlled, Florida counties
tried to punch out multiple voter cards at a time in a lame attempt to
defeat the overwhelming support of their constituents for Bush? This of
course resulted in the infamous hanging chards that for some reason
where always cast in favor of the dimwit AlGore.

Fear not though, the socialist *******s have replaced checkable voter
cards with untraceable electronic voting machines, and coupled with far
less control on voter ID than on smokers ID, things have been looking up
for the Communist *******s controlling our country at the moment.

--
Jack
The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government
does not first take from somebody else.
http://jbstein.com

Upscale wrote:
Tim Daneliuk wrote:

And the defense of stealing continues ... at least you're consistent
if entirely devoid of moral conscience...

Figured you'd open your yap eventually. Apparently, over 50% of the US
population agrees with me putting you into the whining minority.

With any luck, you'll get charged twice the amount of medical
insurance and die of a coronary.

Reminds me of something you just said a bit ago:
****
And, a truly feeble attempt to get some type of angry reply out of me.
Fact is, I'm experienced dealing with prejudiced, bigoted crybabies
like you on a regular basis. You seem to enjoy playing the fool in
front of everybody and I really do appreciate the opportunity of
pointing it out.
****

The irony is just too hard to pass up...

I'm willing to bet that Tim has never, and will never say or even think
that you die from anything... You sir, using the term in the most
inscrutable ways, are the fool.

--
Jack
What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you NOT understand?
http://jbstein.com

"Jack Stein" wrote in message
...
J. Clarke wrote:

My point is that the Gestapo's razor wire could not keep people in a
little tiny prison, let alone a whole country, hence the notion that
"razor wire backed by an electric fence" will keep Mexicans out of the US
is wishful thinking.

Didn't do too bad containing the East Germans.

If it had been a single fence, it wouldn't have stopped anybody. The guard
towers, dog runs and 100 yards of clear (shooting) space between fences had
a lot to do with it. They rarely shot anyone though. They usually just put
the dogs on them.