"scritch" wrote
ACORN was fighting for you, Jack. Al Franken is also fighting for you. Or
would you care to return to the days when a 6- or 7-day work week was
standard? Days when five-year-old children picked rocks from coal? Days
when you literally worked until you dropped dead on the job. Days when
company operators hired thugs to kill a few brave workers who had the gall
to stand up to the owners? When you got old, you starved? When you got
sick you died, penniless?

ACORN did not exist when the unions achieved all those goals. ACORN has
done nothing for me.

The unions did some great things for the workers but became very powerful
and often went too far. They fell into disfavor and now have realized the
error of their ways and often work with business to have apprenticeship
programs for the trades, etc. ACORN (stated in 1970) seems to have done
the same thing with the power and arrogance. Good riddance. Franken can
follow. I'm just glad he never had a love child with Pelosi.

scritch wrote:
Jack Stein wrote:
LDosser wrote:
"Jack Stein" wrote in message
...
Mark & Juanita wrote:
Jack Stein wrote:

2) The Republicans always have to have a margin of victory that
exceeds the margin of vote fraud. In this case, the anger is so
significant, the margin of fraud would be noticeable even to the
leftist media.

Don't ever underestimate the left wing media machine. I would think
any voting district that had more voters than registered voters
would be BIG news, and HOTLY investigated and prosecuted. Nope,
hardly raised an eyebrow.

Anyway, an example of the effects of ACORN is Al Franken, socialist
******* from Minnesota. Franken won by 312 votes. ACORN claimed to
have registered 48,000. The fact ACORN uses tax money to registers
ONLY socialist Democrats, and the fact ACORN is guilty as hell in
registration fraud makes the math a little hard to do.

Jack, ACORN IS FOLDING.

Into what?

Jack,

ACORN was fighting for the disenfranchised. They bore the brunt of a
full-scale right-wing media attack (if you doubt it, you haven't been
paying attention),

ACORN had been protected by a full scale, left wing media cover-up. If
you doubt that, you haven't been paying attention.

and the fatal blows were a libelous video, later proven to be faked,

That video was more like 5 separate videos showing ACORN workers
advising what they thought to be a pimp and a hooker how to set up a
whore house, staffed with illegal 13 year old girls without getting
busted, and avoid income taxes while they were at it. The video's were
real.

and a defunding bill in Congress specifically aimed
at ACORN. That bill is a bill of attainder, and unconstitutional.

ACORN is a left wing, socialist organization, hell bent on getting as
many fake voter registrations into the Democratic party as possible, and
they use taxpayer money to do this. They have been charged with voter
fraud in something like 14 states, and that is totally unrelated to the
very real videos that you think are fake, but even ACORN knew were so
real, the fired all the people identified on the videos.


ACORN was fighting for you, Jack. Al Franken is also fighting for you.

IN your dreams. ACORN is 100% left wing socialist democrat, I'm 100%
independent conservative.

Or would you care to return to the days when a 6- or 7-day work week
was standard?

I see, you are a warped SEIU union thug. Less than 20% of American
workers are unionized, and most of those work for the government.

Days when five-year-old children picked rocks from coal?

Modern technology and sufficient labor pools ended that crap. If you
doubt me, ask your ****ed up union people how they feel about illegal
aliens sneaking over the border and working for peanuts? ACORN and SEIU
really are pushing enforcing current immigration laws and tightening
the borders so real Americans can work at American wages rather than
illegals working at Mexican wages, right?

Days when you literally worked until you dropped dead on the job. Days
when company operators hired thugs to kill a few brave workers who had
the gall to stand up to the owners? When you got old, you starved?
When you got sick you died, penniless?

Jack, the only reason you are not squashed under the thumb of the rich
and powerful is because the Left is fighting back. Wake up.

You mean like the 100 million killed by the left wing socialist *******s
under Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Chiang Kai-shek, Pol Pot and the rest
of the gang? I think you better wake up.

--
Jack
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
enough to take everything you have".
-- Thomas Jefferson
http://jbstein.com

Larry Jaques wrote:
the infamous Jack Stein scrawled the following:
Upscale wrote:

You really are a ****ing twit aren't you?

I never ****ed a twit, and I'm not about to start now... Why do you ask?

Just plonk him and forget him.

I rarely plonk anyone, however I long ago figured out Upscale almost
never has anything worthwhile to say, and worse, not anything remotely
entertaining to say, and that if I were smart, I would ignore him rather
than get in a witless battle with him. It's sort of a bully getting
into it with the weakest kid in the block. Robocop on the other hand is
a tad more fun, sort of like getting it on with a dimwit bully, even if
he is rather weak, it's more fun.

Love your new sig, Jack. g

"Obama Ca Efficiency of the DMV, compassion of the IRS!"

I have a ton of them, some scooped, some my own. My tag editor attaches
them automatically, although I often apply a more appropriate tag when I
think of it. This one is new, and one of mine, I should have attached it
to Skritches pro ACORN drivel a minute ago.... The problem with this one
is those that only watch government controlled news, have no idea what
ACORN is, or has been up to unless they are a socialist *******
themselves...

--
Jack
Acorn: For Democrats that just can't vote enough...
http://jbstein.com

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:32:47 -0700, Mark & Juanita
wrote:

J. Clarke wrote:

On 3/26/2010 12:59 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:45:50 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

I'll see your Canada and raise you Japan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_...ystem_in_Japan

Let me know what you think after (if?) you read it.

Let me know what you think when the elderly retirees outnumber the
workers. Japan's in trouble and they know it.


That scenario applies to a lot more than health care. And to a lot more
countries than Japan. What happens to all those seniors who are unable
to work and are not independently wealthy when a government stops paying
Social Security or it's equivalent?

Uh if you investigate you will find that Japan's population is now in
decline and has been for some time. I do not believe that any other
industrialized nation has reached that point.


Great Britain, France, many of the European countries have birthrates
below replacement rate. Russia has the same problem. All of these
countries have birthrates below replacement rate with the exception of a
certain population of middle-eastern immigrants with strong religious
affiliations toward a philosophy diametrically opposed to tolerance,
freedom, and liberty.

A birth rate in decline is not the same as being below replacement rate.
Without immigration one leads to the other, but not immediately. It may take
50 years for the snake to digest its meal. With immigration all bets are off.
That's where the Europeons are going. Japan's immigration is about zero.

In addition, China is also deliberately pushing a population reduction
policy as well with their one-child policy. Due to the culture in that
country that places a high value on boys and very little on girls, the
desire for a son has led to widespread abortion and even infanticide. The
other side effect of this is that they have a lopsided gender-gap skewed
toward males. This is going to create very interesting problems in the not
very distant future.

It already is.

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:56:53 -0700, the infamous scritch
scrawled the following:

Jack Stein wrote:
LDosser wrote:
"Jack Stein" wrote in message
...
Mark & Juanita wrote:
Jack Stein wrote:

2) The Republicans always have to have a margin of victory that
exceeds the margin of vote fraud. In this case, the anger is so
significant, the margin of fraud would be noticeable even to the
leftist media.

Don't ever underestimate the left wing media machine. I would think
any voting district that had more voters than registered voters would
be BIG news, and HOTLY investigated and prosecuted. Nope, hardly
raised an eyebrow.

Anyway, an example of the effects of ACORN is Al Franken, socialist
******* from Minnesota. Franken won by 312 votes. ACORN claimed to
have registered 48,000. The fact ACORN uses tax money to registers
ONLY socialist Democrats, and the fact ACORN is guilty as hell in
registration fraud makes the math a little hard to do.

Jack, ACORN IS FOLDING.

Into what?

Jack,

ACORN was fighting for the disenfranchised.

ACORN was apparently fighting for "money". If they helped the
disenfranchised (people wtihout any money who wanted to buy a home) it
was likely an oversight. Didn't you see the videos? It's plain that
they were trying to help the (unknown to them) actors defraud the
government. How much more clear does the evidence get than that? They
didn't care that the guys were purportedly bringing in underage
foreign women to be pimped out of a whorehouse. ACORN told them how to
hide the money it would have brought in, too. Unreal.


They bore the brunt of a
full-scale right-wing media attack

Given that 95% of the media are controlled by Liberals, that's not a
big thing, is it? That the Left failed to run anything pro-ACORN is
as much admission of guilt as anything. If ACORN was clean, they'd
have been screaming bloody murder.

It didn't do much, though. According to an article on the Puffington
Hose "Several of ACORN's local offices have officially disbanded and
resumed operations under new names and with similar staff in an effort
to escape the scandal that has surrounded the 40-year-old organization
in recent months."

--snip--

Jack, the only reason you are not squashed under the thumb of the rich
and powerful is because the Left is fighting back. Wake up.

You mean that there are no rich Liberals? kaff, kaff, KENNEDY
Nearly all the Democrats in CONgress are millionaires, if not before
they were elected, shortly after. John Kerry and his wife are worth
$500 million+. The Clintons grossed $104 million the 1 year before
she ran for President.

Goob, the Left is causing far more harm than good. Wake up! We didn't
have nearly as many "disenfranchised" before their social experiments.

--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
-=-=-

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:58:19 -0500, Upscale wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:46:12 -0700, Mark & Juanita
wrote:

I mean, since the government has now declared that others should pay for
my health care if I am unable or unwilling to do so, shouldn't they also
have to pay to make sure that I am well-housed and well-fed? Oh, and
clothing is a basic human need as well. Why aren't we nationalizing that as
well?

It appears that you've got the national right to whine down pat. Guess
the national right to whine even more shrilly is just around the
corner.

We're learning from you Uppity.

"Upscale" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:29:03 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

"Upscale" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:14:05 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

CLUE: You get MOST of them from the US or from patent rip-offs in India.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Our Canadian history consists of ripping
off the US for everything.

What part of Canada is INDIA?

The High Commission of India in Ottawa.

Didn't you know that dummy? Guess you don't know everything. Careful
or you'll lose your world title for arrogance. Or worse, the US title
for arrogance will be substituted with the title for whining which is
ALL that's been coming out of your side of the border lately.

(Figured I'd practice some of that free speech that you're always
bragging about. How does it feel BTW? Guess you enjoy it seeing as how
it's enshrined in your constitution.)


What is it with some Canadians, the level of whining about the US makes me
wonder if they have a life.

"Jack Stein" wrote in message
...
Upscale wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:03:52 -0400, Jack Stein
wrote:

I believe it was you that wished Tim dead, just recently? Your ethics
are obvious to anyone bored enough to read your drivel.

I was referring to Tim's actions several years ago. Something you have
zero knowledge about.

Really? I heard him apologize for that one slip, and perhaps a hundred
time state he doesn't have an issue with you using the health care system
forced upon you, rather has an issue with you thinking the system that
forces everyone to contribute to your welfare is hunky dory.

Not surprising though. Lack of knowledge is not
something that would ever prevent you from speaking. Assholes like you
don't need a reason.

Again, I thought I was a douche-nozzle? Still having trouble keeping up
with you two twits.

I think he stands by most everything he says, very, very consistent he
is.

About time you and Tim went and got a room isn't it?

I already got a room, Tim probably does as well, why do you ask?

Hate Speech. He seems to be a homophobe.

On Mar 27, 6:17*pm, "LDosser" wrote:
"Upscale" wrote in message

...





On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:29:03 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

"Upscale" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:14:05 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

CLUE: You get MOST of them from the US or from patent rip-offs in India.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Our Canadian history consists of ripping
off the US for everything.

What part of Canada is INDIA?

The High Commission of India in Ottawa.

Didn't you know that dummy? Guess you don't know everything. Careful
or you'll lose your world title for arrogance. Or worse, the US title
for arrogance will be substituted with the title for whining which is
ALL that's been coming out of your side of the border lately.

(Figured I'd practice some of that free speech that you're always
bragging about. How does it feel BTW? Guess you enjoy it seeing as how
it's enshrined in your constitution.)

What is it with some Canadians, the level of whining about the US makes me
wonder if they have a life.

Some Canadians have a problem with some Americans, just like many
other nationalities have problems with some Americans.
I have many great American friends. But, just like Canadians, there
are some assholes amongst us. A small handful frequent these parts.
And, I, for one, won't have some misguided schmuck run roughshod over
me. Soooo... if you don't like my retorts, stop slinging stupid ****
in this international forum. It ain't exclusively American, k? Bye.

Tim Daneliuk wrote:


Don't ever kid yourself. There is a huge appetite among the people
for Other People's Money. Something approxiating 50% of the people
get more back than they pay into the system and then wail about how
unfair it is that they can't get more.

My bull**** alarm is ringing on this one Tim. You'll have to substantiate
this statement. That doesn't even seem like it could be close to reality.

--

-Mike-

Lew Hodgett wrote:

The operative word is "some".

Given it is a problem for some people, it is also not a problem of the
masses.

A rather limited part of the medical community specializes in treating
the problem thus conventional means of drug_manufacturer/doctor
communication already exists.

Substitute a few other of the high profit, recreational like drugs
such as Viagra, if that works better for you.


So what is the point you are trying to make here Lew?

--

-Mike-

"Lew Hodgett" wrote

A rather limited part of the medical community specializes in treating the
problem thus conventional means of drug_manufacturer/doctor communication
already exists.

Substitute a few other of the high profit, recreational like drugs such as
Viagra, if that works better for you.

Lew

Viagra was not invented as a recreational drug or for ED. It was undergoing
clinical testing for angina relief but it did not work very well for that.
When the men in the trial did not want to stop the drug, it was discovered
that they liked the side effects.

"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
...
Tim Daneliuk wrote:


Don't ever kid yourself. There is a huge appetite among the people
for Other People's Money. Something approxiating 50% of the people
get more back than they pay into the system and then wail about how
unfair it is that they can't get more.

My bull**** alarm is ringing on this one Tim. You'll have to substantiate
this statement. That doesn't even seem like it could be close to reality.

--

-Mike-



I don't know the percentages, but it can and does happen. I've seen the tax
forms from a couple of people in that position. They are low income but get
all sorts of credits. I did my grandson's taxes for last year. He is
getting pack more than he paid in.

in 516206 20100327 081405 "LDosser" wrote:
"Upscale" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:41:05 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:
Of course they are, but still measurably cheaper than the gouging that
happens every day by US drug companies.

So, you have no pharmaceutical companies doing research?

I can't speak as to new experimental drugs, maybe that's what you have
in mind, but then they're not yet regular pharmacy drugs are they?
We're talking about everyday prescription drugs.

Canadian drugs are markedly cheaper than in the US. Flocks of your
seniors make day trips on buses to come up here and buy generic drugs.
Read a little bit will you?
http://drugs.about.com/od/faqsabouty...nada_cheap.htm


CLUE: You get MOST of them from the US or from patent rip-offs in India.

Correction : most of them from US *companies*, but many of those companies
do a lot of their research in Europe.
CLUE: Viagra was developed in Britain.

"Upscale" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:17:58 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

What is it with some Canadians, the level of whining about the US makes me
wonder if they have a life.

Nah! The only life we've got is hoping that we get invaded by the US.
Maybe then we won't get ripped off as much for tools and stuff that
sell considerably cheaper in the US.

Been talking to Leon a bit about my plans to purchase a Festool Domino
and a CT22 vacuum package. $1279 in the US, approximately $1700 before
taxes in Canada. Doesn't matter one shred that the Canadian dollar is
almost at par, we consistently get gouged anyway. Can't even order it.
Damned Festool has prohibited US dealers from shipping their products
to Canada.

Planning a road trip to Buffalo with a buddy of mine. Couple of hours
to the border, make the purchase, few hours back. Just have to hope
that duty at the border is not excessive. Must investigate duty costs.


Don't they still allow you a certain amount if you stay three days?

Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one time. Guy
asked if I bought anything and I told him the truth: nothing I didn't
consume. Seen better dressed and better appearing gas pump jocks than what
passes for customs American side. Canada customs, OTOH, are always smartly
dressed, etc.

"Bob Martin" wrote in message
...
in 516206 20100327 081405 "LDosser" wrote:
"Upscale" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:41:05 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:
Of course they are, but still measurably cheaper than the gouging that
happens every day by US drug companies.

So, you have no pharmaceutical companies doing research?

I can't speak as to new experimental drugs, maybe that's what you have
in mind, but then they're not yet regular pharmacy drugs are they?
We're talking about everyday prescription drugs.

Canadian drugs are markedly cheaper than in the US. Flocks of your
seniors make day trips on buses to come up here and buy generic drugs.
Read a little bit will you?
http://drugs.about.com/od/faqsabouty...nada_cheap.htm


CLUE: You get MOST of them from the US or from patent rip-offs in India.

Correction : most of them from US *companies*, but many of those companies
do a lot of their research in Europe.
CLUE: Viagra was developed in Britain.


That your med of choice?

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:17:58 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

What is it with some Canadians, the level of whining about the US makes me
wonder if they have a life.

Nah! The only life we've got is hoping that we get invaded by the US.
Maybe then we won't get ripped off as much for tools and stuff that
sell considerably cheaper in the US.

Been talking to Leon a bit about my plans to purchase a Festool Domino
and a CT22 vacuum package. $1279 in the US, approximately $1700 before
taxes in Canada. Doesn't matter one shred that the Canadian dollar is
almost at par, we consistently get gouged anyway. Can't even order it.
Damned Festool has prohibited US dealers from shipping their products
to Canada.

Planning a road trip to Buffalo with a buddy of mine. Couple of hours
to the border, make the purchase, few hours back. Just have to hope
that duty at the border is not excessive. Must investigate duty costs.

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:23:14 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

Hate Speech. He seems to be a homophobe.

How can that be hate? I'm trying to promote a relationship made in
heaven, but Jack's too shy to admit it to Tim. He covers that
attraction up by doing his best to be a miserable red-neck, but I see
through his charade.

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:21:19 -0700, "LDosser"
Not at all. They used to spend their three days with me while on tool buying
expeditions.

Which is an excellent example of the pricing I mentioned in a previous
message. Retailers and wholesalers in the US don't hesitate to raise
prices and gouge whoever they can, including your drug companies and
their over priced drugs.

Take Festool for example. A $1279 Domino and CT22 vacuum package in
the US is priced at $1700 in Canada. And prices like that are mandated
by Festool, doesn't matter that our money is almost on par.

The only difference here is that we can manufacture necessary drugs,
can't do the same with products like Festool's. You continually cry
about how Canada undercuts US drug prices. What's much more likely is
that your drug prices are seriously overpriced in the first place. And
that's called greed.

Upscale wrote:

snip


Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one time. Guy
asked if I bought anything and I told him the truth: nothing I didn't
consume.


Probably would have been easier for you if you had declared
*something*. I have no doubt that border guards are chosen partially
because they have a suspicious nature.

Over the years I found that the border guards expect a simple yes/no
answer to their questions. They don't seem to appreciate ANY attempts at
humor.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
...
Tim Daneliuk wrote:


Don't ever kid yourself. There is a huge appetite among the people
for Other People's Money. Something approxiating 50% of the people
get more back than they pay into the system and then wail about how
unfair it is that they can't get more.

My bull**** alarm is ringing on this one Tim. You'll have to
substantiate this statement. That doesn't even seem like it could
be close to reality. --

-Mike-



I don't know the percentages, but it can and does happen. I've seen
the tax forms from a couple of people in that position. They are low
income but get all sorts of credits. I did my grandson's taxes for
last year. He is getting pack more than he paid in.

I agree that it happens, and that there are even programs that make that
something less than an anomoly, but I question the 50% number you used, as
well as the last statement "and then wail about how unfair it is that they
can't get more".

--

-Mike-

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 03:32:02 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote:

Don't they still allow you a certain amount if you stay three days?

I think so, but I wouldn't be doing very much if I did stay and then
there's lodging and food costs on top of it all. And0, health
considerations would make it difficult for me.

Hell, a road trip of a little more than half a day isn't so bad. I
have a good friend who will drive me down and back with me picking all
the costs. I haven't experienced a road trip with a buddy for a long,
long time. It would be fun and it's a good thirty years since I've
been in the US.

Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one time. Guy
asked if I bought anything and I told him the truth: nothing I didn't
consume.

Probably would have been easier for you if you had declared
*something*. I have no doubt that border guards are chosen partially
because they have a suspicious nature.

Tim Daneliuk wrote:
... - government has no money, creates no
wealth, and produces nothing of value in and of itself.

Well communist governments create crap, don't they? For example, the
USSA produces GM products.

--
Jack
Got Change: General Motors ====== Government Motors!
http://jbstein.com

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
:


"Lew Hodgett" wrote

A rather limited part of the medical community specializes in
treating the problem thus conventional means of
drug_manufacturer/doctor communication already exists.

Substitute a few other of the high profit, recreational like drugs
such as Viagra, if that works better for you.

Lew

Viagra was not invented as a recreational drug or for ED. It was
undergoing clinical testing for angina relief but it did not work very
well for that. When the men in the trial did not want to stop the
drug, it was discovered that they liked the side effects.

But they were definitely thinking about it. At a conference in
Philadelphia on nitric oxide* Louis Ignarro answered a question about
using a cream with an NO donor substance to enhance erections as follows:
Sounds like a bad idea, because the partner might faint due to lowering
of blood pressure when the substance would enter her system. I remember
the laughs.

NO (nitirc oxide) stimulates an enzyme called guanylate cyclase that
generates cGMP, which is responsible for vasodilation. Nitroglycerin is
an NO donor that also causes vasodilation via cGMP generation, but it
works best for the heart.
Viagra etc are inhibitors of one of the enzymes that degrade cGMP. There
is some tissue specificity in the diverse cyclic GMP phosphodiesterases
(PDEs), so Viagra etc work better for the purposes they are now marketed
for.

At the time (late 80s, early 90s), there was great interest in
commercializing the NO research. Louis Ignarro got the Nobel prize with
Robert F. Furchgott and Ferid Murad for their NO-related research.
Furchgott discovered an "endothelium-derived relaxing factor" which
turned out to be NO. Murad was involved in the cGMP research for Abbott
Labs.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 3/27/2010 10:21 AM, Jack Stein wrote:

I'm not sure you are right about this. I've seen surveys that indicate
about 70% of Americans are conservative, 25% liberal. I suspect the

No, this isn't quite right. Of *voters*, about 20% identify as liberal,
about 40% identify as conservatives, and the other 40% call themselves
independents.

My guess is that 30% of those identifying themselves as "independent"
are like me, conservatives that don't want identified with Republicans.

Thank god for Fox News,
it's the ONLY thing I've seen on TV in the past 50 years that is not
blatantly far left wing, socialist propaganda.

Don't ever kid yourself. There is a huge appetite among the people for
Other People's Money. Something approxiating 50% of the people get
more back than they pay into the system and then wail about how
unfair it is that they can't get more.

You're likely right on this one, but at least until November, I'm going
to try to think a bit less pessimistic...

--
Jack
Pessimist: One who, when he has the choice of two evils, chooses both.
http://jbstein.com

On 3/28/2010 7:38 AM, Nova wrote:
Upscale wrote:

snip


Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one time.
Guy asked if I bought anything and I told him the truth: nothing I
didn't consume.


Probably would have been easier for you if you had declared
*something*. I have no doubt that border guards are chosen partially
because they have a suspicious nature.

Over the years I found that the border guards expect a simple yes/no
answer to their questions. They don't seem to appreciate ANY attempts at
humor.

Sometimes you wonder how to answer them and why they bothered to ask.
Car is covered with Canadian mud, guard asks "are you bringing back any
soil?". I don't have any in containers or anything but the car is
covered with it. I told him "no" and he didn't object.

On 2010-03-28, Han wrote:

the patent on something is about to run out, a new twist on the drug is
developed, so that a new patent can be pushed as "better".

....or the patent longer. How much is spent on lobbyist pushing for
new beneficial laws?

nb

On 2010-03-28, LDosser wrote:

Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one
time.

Likewise, and this was 40 yrs ago. Me jes discharged from USAF and a
friend wanting me to see the Canadian side of the falls (some
island). It was awesome, BTW.

consume. Seen better dressed and better appearing gas pump jocks than what
passes for customs American side. Canada customs, OTOH, are always smartly
dressed, etc.

Again, likewise. Going into CD, officials were curt, but
non-threatening and totally professional. Coming back to US, total
jerks w/ 'tude. Hassled us just for kicks. The car tossing taking 2
hrs due to me moving, car loaded to roof from USAF base in TN to home
in CA. Not much to be proud of on my side.

nb

On 2010-03-28, LDosser wrote:

Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one
time.

Likewise, and this was 40 yrs ago. Me jes discharged from USAF and a
friend wanting me to see the Canadian side of the falls (some
island). It was awesome, BTW.

consume. Seen better dressed and better appearing gas pump jocks than what
passes for customs American side. Canada customs, OTOH, are always smartly
dressed, etc.

Again, likewise. Going into CD, officials were curt, but
non-threatening and totally professional. Coming back to US, total
jerks w/ 'tude. Hassled us just for kicks. The car tossing taking 2
hrs due to me moving, car loaded to roof from USAF base in TN to home
in CA. Not much to be proud of on my side.

nb

On Mar 28, 10:10*am, Jack Stein wrote:
[snipped worthless drivel]

No wonder they only make 2 1/2% profit margin....
Well, that, and the Freaking Canucks stealing their drugs...


Nothing like an obsession, eh Douche-Nozzle?

"Lew Hodgett" wrote
I don't object to drug manufacturers advertising; however, I do object to
drug manufacturers lobbying the end user market via TV to pressure the
medical professionals to prescribe their drugs.

They want to advertise, fine, advertise directly to the medical
professionals, not the medically untrained as they presently do.

Obviously, that is the intent of the advertising, but consumers have an
obligation to themselves to know what medication is available. Doctors do
make errors, miss a diagnosis, prescribe the wrong medication, etc.. Good
doctors welcome discussion of their treatment as does the patient deserve to
know all the options available.

Just as important, without advertising, I'd not know what to do with an
erection lasting more that four hours. Used to be I'd just invite some
friends and neighbors (female) over to enjoy it with me and get some use out
of it. I was wrong, I guess.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:38:48 -0400, Nova wrote:

Upscale wrote:

snip


Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one time. Guy
asked if I bought anything and I told him the truth: nothing I didn't
consume.


Probably would have been easier for you if you had declared
*something*. I have no doubt that border guards are chosen partially
because they have a suspicious nature.

Over the years I found that the border guards expect a simple yes/no
answer to their questions. They don't seem to appreciate ANY attempts at
humor.

You got that right. SWMBO giggled once when the Canuck side guard asked if we
were bringing in weapons or more than $10K in cash. She thought the idea of
carrying $10K was funny. Perhaps, but that was no place for humor.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:15:23 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-03-28, LDosser wrote:

Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one
time.

Likewise, and this was 40 yrs ago. Me jes discharged from USAF and a
friend wanting me to see the Canadian side of the falls (some
island). It was awesome, BTW.

consume. Seen better dressed and better appearing gas pump jocks than what
passes for customs American side. Canada customs, OTOH, are always smartly
dressed, etc.

Again, likewise. Going into CD, officials were curt, but
non-threatening and totally professional. Coming back to US, total
jerks w/ 'tude. Hassled us just for kicks. The car tossing taking 2
hrs due to me moving, car loaded to roof from USAF base in TN to home
in CA. Not much to be proud of on my side.

shrug I found exactly the opposite on the Quebec borDER. They were such a
PITA that it was easier to go around Quebec and cross at Cornwall, ON.

On 2010-03-28, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

shrug I found exactly the opposite on the Quebec borDER. They were such a
PITA that it was easier to go around Quebec and cross at Cornwall, ON.

Do they have another identical Niagra Falls in Quebec? I guess I
missed that one.

nb

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:55:32 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-03-28, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

shrug I found exactly the opposite on the Quebec borDER. They were such a
PITA that it was easier to go around Quebec and cross at Cornwall, ON.

Do they have another identical Niagra Falls in Quebec? I guess I
missed that one.

Try reading. Propper quotations would also be nice.

On 2010-03-28, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

Try reading. Propper quotations would also be nice.

Gee, I made a mistake. Please, don't cry.

nb

In ,
zzzzzzzzzz spewed forth:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:15:23 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-03-28, LDosser wrote:

Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one
time.

Likewise, and this was 40 yrs ago. Me jes discharged from USAF and a
friend wanting me to see the Canadian side of the falls (some
island). It was awesome, BTW.

consume. Seen better dressed and better appearing gas pump jocks
than what passes for customs American side. Canada customs, OTOH,
are always smartly dressed, etc.

Again, likewise. Going into CD, officials were curt, but
non-threatening and totally professional. Coming back to US, total
jerks w/ 'tude. Hassled us just for kicks. The car tossing taking 2
hrs due to me moving, car loaded to roof from USAF base in TN to home
in CA. Not much to be proud of on my side.

shrug I found exactly the opposite on the Quebec borDER. They
were such a PITA that it was easier to go around Quebec and cross at
Cornwall, ON.

What do you expect from the french?spit
Hell, even real Canucks don't like the frenchg

In ,
Ed Pawlowski spewed forth:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote
I don't object to drug manufacturers advertising; however, I do
object to drug manufacturers lobbying the end user market via TV to
pressure the medical professionals to prescribe their drugs.

They want to advertise, fine, advertise directly to the medical
professionals, not the medically untrained as they presently do.

Obviously, that is the intent of the advertising, but consumers have
an obligation to themselves to know what medication is available. Doctors
do make errors, miss a diagnosis, prescribe the wrong
medication, etc.. Good doctors welcome discussion of their treatment
as does the patient deserve to know all the options available.

Just as important, without advertising, I'd not know what to do with
an erection lasting more that four hours. Used to be I'd just invite
some friends and neighbors (female) over to enjoy it with me and get
some use out of it. I was wrong, I guess.

Ring toss, anyone?g

In ,
Larry Jaques spewed forth:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:10:27 -0500, the infamous Upscale
scrawled the following:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:01:58 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:
So if you're poor, you'll be allowed _not_ to have insurance (aka:
healthcare), eh?!?

Statements like that bother me. Big joke eh? Nobody likes being poor.
No one is going to become poor just to get "free" health insurance.
It wouldn't make sense.

I'm hitting on the total irony of it all. Their ploy makes no sense
whatsoever. If you cna' afford health insurance, they'll allow you to
opt out of this forced plan, leaving you EXACTLY WHERE YOU WERE BEFORE
HIS WONDERFUL ****ING HEALTHCARE PLAN.


Call me a bleeding heart liberal or whatever you want, but at least
make a feeble attempt to appear empathetic.

Let us know if you ever really FEEL empathy. Sheesh...


P.S: The joke's on me. I qualify for exemption.

Just pay the fine, wait till ya get sick, go buy insurance(no pre
existing), no problemg

On 3/28/2010 2:50 PM, ChairMan wrote:
In ,
zzzzzzzzzzspewed forth:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:15:23 GMT, wrote:

On 2010-03-28, wrote:

Had my car tossed on the American side coming back from BC one
time.

Likewise, and this was 40 yrs ago. Me jes discharged from USAF and a
friend wanting me to see the Canadian side of the falls (some
island). It was awesome, BTW.

consume. Seen better dressed and better appearing gas pump jocks
than what passes for customs American side. Canada customs, OTOH,
are always smartly dressed, etc.

Again, likewise. Going into CD, officials were curt, but
non-threatening and totally professional. Coming back to US, total
jerks w/ 'tude. Hassled us just for kicks. The car tossing taking 2
hrs due to me moving, car loaded to roof from USAF base in TN to home
in CA. Not much to be proud of on my side.

shrug I found exactly the opposite on the Quebec borDER. They
were such a PITA that it was easier to go around Quebec and cross at
Cornwall, ON.

What do you expect from the french?spit
Hell, even real Canucks don't like the frenchg

Hey, the Quebec border guards the few times I've crossed have been quite
nice eye candy with good manners. Maybe they just have a thing for old
guys on bikes.