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"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 09/11/2019 12:07, Andy Bennet wrote: On 09/11/2019 11:07, Max Demian wrote: On 09/11/2019 09:57, Andy Bennet wrote: I take EVERYTHING from the back of the shelf, all the freshest stuff is there. Even if you're going to consume it straight away? Rather selfish? Not really, less stuff gets thrown away thus saving the planet. More stuff gets thrown away by the shop if everyone does it. But everyone doesnt. |
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wrote in message ... On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:31:41 UTC, Graeme wrote: I'm not sure why dates are printed on tins. How did we survive before the dates were printed? We checked whether they were bulgy or putrifying, but occasionally we got it wrong. I have a Big Book of Food Safety showing bulgy tins, mouldy yoghurts, decomposing chickens etc, from about the 1970s. Such things were quite common then. Food manufacturing has improved a lot and now it's quite rare to find actually defective food. Modern food might not have much taste or nutrition but it's less likely to kill you. That last is very arguable with listeria and salmonela etc. We just had a few killed by infected fresh melons. |
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wrote in message ... On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:30:39 UTC, Graeme wrote: You *buy* Christmas cakes? Shame on you - made ours earlier this week, and yes, it is divine with cheese :-) We gave up making christmas cakes as a family when there were so many power cuts, and it's an expensive waste losing a christmas cake half cooked in the oven. Also the shop ones have got better quality and value for money since then. Ours got noticeably worse. I used to buy these, but dont anymore. https://lionsclubs.org.au/activities/products/cakes/ I used to make my own but havent done for about a decade now. Might knock out a batch of mince pies though. Those have changed for the better here. They used to go inedible quite quickly but dont anymore with some of the branks. I currently prefer the Aldi ones. I still have half a doz jars of mincemeat to use up (20p each I think, from about March). |
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:17:45 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: We gave up making christmas cakes as a family when there were so many power cuts, and it's an expensive waste losing a christmas cake half cooked in the oven. Also the shop ones have got better quality and value for money since then. Ours got noticeably worse. I used to buy these, but don¢t anymore. https://lionsclubs.org.au/activities/products/cakes/ I used to make my own but havent done for about a decade now. Yeah, too sad when you always have to eat them all by yourself, you cantankerous forsaken senile pest! -- addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent: "You on the other hand are a heavyweight bull****ter who demonstrates your particular prowess at it every day." MID: |
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:11:04 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Not really, less stuff gets thrown away thus saving the planet. More stuff gets thrown away by the shop if everyone does it. But everyone doesn¢t. He didn't say that everyone does it, auto-contradicting senile idiot! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:13:01 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: That last is very arguable What is NOT arguable for you, you clinically insane, auto-contradicting, senile idiot! tsk -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjar wrote:
I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza Owain |
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On 09/11/2019 18:23, Max Demian wrote:
On 09/11/2019 12:07, Andy Bennet wrote: On 09/11/2019 11:07, Max Demian wrote: On 09/11/2019 09:57, Andy Bennet wrote: I take EVERYTHING from the back of the shelf, all the freshest stuff is there. Even if you're going to consume it straight away? Rather selfish? Not really, less stuff gets thrown away thus saving the planet. More stuff gets thrown away by the shop if everyone does it. Nope. Lower price stickers get put on it as it approaches expiry. This then helps less fortunate people buy goods they otherwise they could not afford. WIN WIN |
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On 09/11/2019 19:39, nightjar wrote:
On 09/11/2019 17:11, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjarÂ* wrote: Â* Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) I'm failing to think of anything which would make me buy one tin of haggis. |
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On Saturday, 9 November 2019 20:12:48 UTC, Richard wrote:
I'm failing to think of anything which would make me buy one tin of haggis. It's very tasty. I forgot to mention last week's haggis and red pepper soup :-) Owain |
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nightjar wrote: On 09/11/2019 17:11, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjar wrote: Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) the price is right -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 09/11/2019 20:12, Richard wrote:
On 09/11/2019 19:39, nightjar wrote: On 09/11/2019 17:11, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjarÂ* wrote: Â* Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) I'm failing to think of anything which would make me buy one tin of haggis. Isn't the SNP about to pass legislation banning the hunting of Haggis? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Saturday, 9 November 2019 21:04:51 UTC, alan_m wrote:
Isn't the SNP about to pass legislation banning the hunting of Haggis? On the contrary; all privately-owned haggis estates are to be brought into public ownership, a minimum haggis pricing policy will be introduced, and every baby haggis will get its own cardboard box to sleep in with a hand-signed photograph of Nicola Sturgeon to **** on. Owain |
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On 09/11/2019 19:11, Rod Speed wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 09/11/2019 12:07, Andy Bennet wrote: On 09/11/2019 11:07, Max Demian wrote: On 09/11/2019 09:57, Andy Bennet wrote: I take EVERYTHING from the back of the shelf, all the freshest stuff is there. Even if you're going to consume it straight away? Rather selfish? Not really, less stuff gets thrown away thus saving the planet. More stuff gets thrown away by the shop if everyone does it. But everyone doesnt. I assume you don't subscribe to Kant's Categorical Imperative. (No probs; I don't.) -- Max Demian |
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:32:39 -0800, spuorgelgoog wrote:
On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:31:41 UTC, Graeme wrote: I'm not sure why dates are printed on tins. How did we survive before the dates were printed? We checked whether they were bulgy or putrifying, but occasionally we got it wrong. I have a Big Book of Food Safety showing bulgy tins, mouldy yoghurts, decomposing chickens etc, from about the 1970s. Such things were quite common then. Food manufacturing has improved a lot and now it's quite rare to find actually defective food. Modern food might not have much taste or nutrition but it's less likely to kill you. I was reading today about someone who was asked what he'd like in a Secret Santa gift, and he just said "Something cool". What he got was a can of Coke, and "Put me in the fridge, and I'll be cool. And - hint - I'm nearly twice as old as you". He used that clue to try and find which of the older people in the office had given it - no luck. He did drink it - not a Coke fan, normally. Thought it tasted odd but he wasn't an expert. A colleague saw the empty can and went ballistic: "You DRANK it?" Turned out he was the Secret Santa, and his hobby was collecting sealed old cans of stuff. He'd donated one of his prize cans - an unopened 35 year old can of Coke. The victim survived with no ill effects. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 18:58:52 +0000, Graeme wrote:
In message , writes Might knock out a batch of mince pies though. I still have half a doz jars of mincemeat to use up (20p each I think, from about March). Excellent. Still working through a large batch of mincemeat made in 2014. Still fine, in Kilner jars. Same here. With actual raw muince in. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:31:41 UTC, Graeme wrote:
In message , writes On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjar wrote: Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm not sure why dates are printed on tins. 1. for mfrs to divest themselves of any legal responsibility if a tin spoils 2. to get people to chuck & buy again How did we survive before the dates were printed? I've used countless tins that were well past the printed date, and never noticed a difference in the quality of the contents, or spent the next few days 'squatting'. BB & Use by dates are frequently works of fantasy nowadays. Only some are realistic, primarily meat & prepared salads. If you get food poisoning from tinned food you won't be squatting, you'll be in hospital trying to survive. Mortality is high. NT |
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wrote in message ... On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:31:41 UTC, Graeme wrote: In message , writes On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjar wrote: Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm not sure why dates are printed on tins. 1. for mfrs to divest themselves of any legal responsibility if a tin spoils 2. to get people to chuck & buy again How did we survive before the dates were printed? I've used countless tins that were well past the printed date, and never noticed a difference in the quality of the contents, or spent the next few days 'squatting'. BB & Use by dates are frequently works of fantasy nowadays. Only some are realistic, primarily meat & prepared salads. Even with meat there is a big difference depending on what you do with it storage temp wise etc. Some of our Aldis can be very slack about what they do with the chicken particularly with what they do with it between the truck and the shelf. If you get food poisoning from tinned food you won't be squatting, you'll be in hospital trying to survive. Mortality is high. In fact it isnt actually tinned food that kills very many anymore. |
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On 10/11/2019 03:46, Rod Speed wrote:
Even with meat there is a big difference depending on what you do with it storage temp wise etc. Some of our Aldis can be very slack about what they do with the chicken particularly with what they do with it between the truck and the shelf. Truck to shelf seems to fairly rapid in my local. I'd me more worried about some of the large supermarkets. Go in at 2am (in a 24 hour store) and you will often find that much of the new stock in the freezers is nearly thawed. A problem with having to wait for the night stocking staff to turn up to deal with the stuff that has turned up during the day. At least with Adli/Lidl they have little back of store storage and usually within minutes the goods are wheeled into the isles (blocking some access for customers) and then rapidly put on the shelves/coolers. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 09/11/2019 20:12, Richard wrote:
On 09/11/2019 19:39, nightjar wrote: On 09/11/2019 17:11, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjarÂ* wrote: Â* Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) I'm failing to think of anything which would make me buy one tin of haggis. I must admit I would be dubious. I am more used to eating haggis that has been carried in to the sound of the pipes and cut with all due ceremony. -- Colin Bignell |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 10/11/2019 03:46, Rod Speed wrote: Even with meat there is a big difference depending on what you do with it storage temp wise etc. Some of our Aldis can be very slack about what they do with the chicken particularly with what they do with it between the truck and the shelf. Truck to shelf seems to fairly rapid in my local. I'd me more worried about some of the large supermarkets. Go in at 2am (in a 24 hour store) and you will often find that much of the new stock in the freezers is nearly thawed. Ours mostly arent 24/7 so you cant do that. And the meat isnt frozen. A problem with having to wait for the night stocking staff to turn up to deal with the stuff that has turned up during the day. At least with Adli/Lidl they have little back of store storage Yeah, out Aldi certainly has that. and usually within minutes the goods are wheeled into the isles (blocking some access for customers) and then rapidly put on the shelves/coolers. But apparently some stuff like the fresh chicken can sit on trolleys for too long in the area that the customers dont go, outside the fridges in there before they are moved into the store proper and onto the shelves. Not all Aldis, just a couple of them, badly managed presumably. |
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 14:46:44 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: BB & Use by dates are frequently works of fantasy nowadays. Only some are realistic, primarily meat & prepared salads. Even with meat there is a big difference depending on what you do with it storage temp wise etc. YOU have for long been PAST your used by date, senile trolling asshole! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 09/11/2019 13:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Let the supermarkets do that before I've paid their profits. You already have paid. Everything is priced to pay for the overall waste, theft and running costs. |
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 20:39:41 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: But apparently some stuff like the fresh chicken can sit on trolleys for too long in the area that the customers don¢t go, outside the fridges in there before they are moved into the store proper and onto the shelves. Not all Aldis, just a couple of them, badly managed presumably. Thanks for another so very interesting story from your senile world, senile Rodent! BG -- FredXX to Rot Speed: "You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity and criminality is inherited after all?" Message-ID: |
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Steve Walker wrote:
On 09/11/2019 08:56, Brian Reay wrote: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote: And I get the same issue with Ginger nuts, where they seem intact until you open the packet, then they turn to fragments. Brian Cheese on ginger nuts, that is different ;-) Cheese on Bourbons is nice once in a while. Steve Ill take your word for it. I like those Hovis biscuits with cheese. |
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, says... I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) TINNED Haggis??? -- Terry |
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On Saturday, 9 November 2019 08:56:36 UTC, Brian Reay wrote: Cheese on ginger nuts, that is different ;-) Might be quite nice, though. Looking forward to christmas cake with cheese in January. (Why in January - because they'll be half the price of buying them in December). Owain Fruit cake and cheese used to be a €˜Northern thing. Ive not seen it since living in the south. |
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Richard wrote:
On 09/11/2019 19:39, nightjar wrote: On 09/11/2019 17:11, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjarÂ* wrote: Â* Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) I'm failing to think of anything which would make me buy one tin of haggis. I like haggis but tinned haggis seems unnatural. That reminds me, Im off to a St Andrews dinner in a few weeks and Haggis is on the menu. |
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On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjar wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza Owain On a trip to Scotland earlier this year we saw Haggis with Scallops. I was going to try it but theyd run out of Scallops. |
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Terry Casey wrote:
In article 93bcf432-a9d5-473b-a0a0- , says... I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) TINNED Haggis??? It is probably farmed. Wild haggis is the best. ;-) |
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On 10/11/2019 11:35, Brian Reay wrote:
wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 08:56:36 UTC, Brian Reay wrote: Cheese on ginger nuts, that is different ;-) Might be quite nice, though. Looking forward to christmas cake with cheese in January. (Why in January - because they'll be half the price of buying them in December). Owain Fruit cake and cheese used to be a €˜Northern thing. Ive not seen it since living in the south. I first met it in the old Rectory in a Yorkshire village in 1970 but have had it many, many times since in the South. It's one of my favourite bits of DIY: take plate; add Christmas cake; add cheese; rinse and repeat. (Wensleydale was the traditional Yorkshire cheese but I also like Lancashire or a crumbly cheddar. And to rinse with whatever you fancy: eg tawny port, Muscat.) -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On Sunday, 10 November 2019 11:51:01 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
TINNED Haggis??? It is probably farmed. Wild haggis is the best. Yes, I think the way they force the baby haggi into little tubes so they grow cylindrically to fit into the tins is a bit cruel. Like those square pigs they slice up for sandwich ham. Owain |
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 10:32:39 -0800, spuorgelgoog wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:31:41 UTC, Graeme wrote: I'm not sure why dates are printed on tins. How did we survive before the dates were printed? I was reading today about someone who was asked what he'd like in a Secret Santa gift, and he just said "Something cool". What he got was a can of Coke, and "Put me in the fridge, and I'll be cool. And - hint - I'm nearly twice as old as you". He used that clue to try and find which of the older people in the office had given it - no luck. He did drink it - not a Coke fan, normally. Thought it tasted odd but he wasn't an expert. A colleague saw the empty can and went ballistic: "You DRANK it?" Turned out he was the Secret Santa, and his hobby was collecting sealed old cans of stuff. He'd donated one of his prize cans - an unopened 35 year old can of Coke. The victim survived with no ill effects. Reminds me that when I was 19 some 40 plus years ago I got a temporary job in a brewery and one day they demolished an old disused wooden loading stage. It seems that over the 90 odd years it existed that when a plank was damaged it was just replaced but no one bothered to clean out the area underneath and whatever bottles had gone down through a hole in a damaged plank was just left there . I retrieved a few of the full bottles whose labels were in good condition and going by them and the memories of the older staff some went back to the late thirties though most were from the early fifties. I took them home and dusted them off and displayed them on a shelf, moving forward to my 21 st birthday party there became a period where my memory failed but on waking up the next day the ancient beer collection had been raided with the now empty bottles lying amongst the general debris. Most were not quite empty ,there were various snot like growths still adhering to inside of the bottles. The chief suspect was not at the pub that evening or the following two which was very unusual for him, when he did finally appear he mentioned his absence was down to the biggest bout of having the ****s he had ever in his life . €œThought I had ****ing Dysentery €œWe asked him if he remembered drinking the bottles on a shelf rather than the main supply table and on thinking about he he recollected he may have done as they were closer than the kitchen . Anticipating he was going to turn up sometime I had taken the bottle with the worst snot like growths along, €œthis probably why you got the ****s €œ. Upon seeing the growths and still feeling a little delicate he headed for the bog where he threw up. GH |
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"Robin" wrote in message ... On 10/11/2019 11:35, Brian Reay wrote: wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 08:56:36 UTC, Brian Reay wrote: Cheese on ginger nuts, that is different ;-) Might be quite nice, though. Looking forward to christmas cake with cheese in January. (Why in January - because they'll be half the price of buying them in December). Owain Fruit cake and cheese used to be a €˜Northern thing. Ive not seen it since living in the south. I first met it in the old Rectory in a Yorkshire village in 1970 but have had it many, many times since in the South. It's one of my favourite bits of DIY: take plate; add Christmas cake; add cheese; rinse Nar that makes the cake too soggy. and repeat. (Wensleydale was the traditional Yorkshire cheese but I also like Lancashire or a crumbly cheddar. And to rinse with whatever you fancy: eg tawny port, Muscat.) |
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