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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 03:48:33 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH troll**** 03:48 in Australia? AGAIN? Do you know NO shame AT ALL, you abnormal senile troll? But then, which psychopath would know ANY shame, eh, senile Rodent? -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:12:41 +0000, alan_m wrote:
On 10/11/2019 09:18, nightjar wrote: No deep fried haggis? Only if in batter! My wife had that once. It took 20 minutes for reverse thrust to take effect. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:59:55 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
No deep fried haggis? Only if in batter! My wife had that once. It took 20 minutes for reverse thrust to take effect. Nothing wrong with a good battered haggis. Or a battered black pudding. Just realised how much I shall miss Scottish chip shops if I move back to England. Owain |
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On 10/11/2019 10:37, mm0fmf wrote:
On 09/11/2019 13:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Let the supermarkets do that before I've paid their profits. You already have paid. Everything is priced to pay for the overall waste, theft and running costs. Even more reason to seek out the freshest stock -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 11:53:52 -0800, spuorgelgoog wrote:
On Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:59:55 UTC, Bob Eager wrote: No deep fried haggis? Only if in batter! My wife had that once. It took 20 minutes for reverse thrust to take effect. Nothing wrong with a good battered haggis. Or a battered black pudding. In general, no. This one just had too much free fat trapped in the coating. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 10/11/2019 22:52, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 11:53:52 -0800, spuorgelgoog wrote: On Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:59:55 UTC, Bob Eager wrote: No deep fried haggis? Only if in batter! My wife had that once. It took 20 minutes for reverse thrust to take effect. Nothing wrong with a good battered haggis. Or a battered black pudding. In general, no. This one just had too much free fat trapped in the coating. So very tempting. Trying to decide between battered haggis, battered black pudding or casu marzu. |
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On Saturday, 9 November 2019 21:04:51 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 09/11/2019 20:12, Richard wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:39, nightjar wrote: On 09/11/2019 17:11, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjarÂ* wrote: Â* Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) I'm failing to think of anything which would make me buy one tin of haggis. Isn't the SNP about to pass legislation banning the hunting of Haggis? I thought the only exercise scots got was chasing a haggis around the mountains. Then they deep fry it. |
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mm0fmf wrote: On 09/11/2019 13:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Let the supermarkets do that before I've paid their profits. You already have paid. Everything is priced to pay for the overall waste, theft and running costs. Then it's not going to make any difference to them taking the longest dated stuff. Only to me. -- *I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 11/11/2019 15:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , mm0fmf wrote: On 09/11/2019 13:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Let the supermarkets do that before I've paid their profits. You already have paid. Everything is priced to pay for the overall waste, theft and running costs. Then it's not going to make any difference to them taking the longest dated stuff. Only to me. No difference if you steal stuff if it's already priced in. -- Max Demian |
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On 11/11/2019 17:02, Max Demian wrote:
On 11/11/2019 15:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* mm0fmf wrote: On 09/11/2019 13:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Let the supermarkets do that before I've paid their profits. You already have paid. Everything is priced to pay for the overall waste, theft and running costs. Then it's not going to make any difference to them taking the longest dated stuff. Only to me. No difference if you steal stuff if it's already priced in. That's just straight theft. Seeking out the freshest goods and paying the asking price is common sense. |
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Andy Bennet wrote: Seeking out the freshest goods and paying the asking price is common sense. True. Perhaps those who don't want this just have it delivered? -- *CAN AN ATHEIST GET INSURANCE AGAINST ACTS OF GOD? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:34:02 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Andy Bennet wrote: Seeking out the freshest goods and paying the asking price is common sense. True. Perhaps those who don't want this just have it delivered? True, but I also look for BOGOF and similar deals rather than just assuming the asking price is the right price or the cheapest. Plus I get those annoying vouchers through the post that are sometimes worth looking at, which give you a discount or added reward points. |
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On 12/11/2019 15:41, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:34:02 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Andy Bennet wrote: Seeking out the freshest goods and paying the asking price is common sense. True. Perhaps those who don't want this just have it delivered? True, but I also look for BOGOF and similar deals rather than just assuming the asking price is the right price or the cheapest. Plus I get those annoying vouchers through the post that are sometimes worth looking at, which give you a discount or added reward points. You can still get the freshest BOGOFs with your discount vouchers. I think the delivery pickers take all the oldest stuff. |
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On 12/11/2019 15:41, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:34:02 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Andy Bennet wrote: Seeking out the freshest goods and paying the asking price is common sense. True. Perhaps those who don't want this just have it delivered? True, but I also look for BOGOF and similar deals rather than just assuming the asking price is the right price or the cheapest. Plus I get those annoying vouchers through the post that are sometimes worth looking at, which give you a discount or added reward points. Be aware that BOGOF deals are usually paid for by the supplier, not the supermarket. The supplier generally has little say in it, apart from when their continuous manufacturing operation is out of kilter with what the public is buying. |
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On 09/11/2019 17:31, Graeme wrote:
In message , writes On Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01:53 UTC, nightjarÂ* wrote: Â*Tins may well end up well past their best before date just sitting in my cupboard. I'm working my way through 72 tins of haggis I bought a few years ago when they were about 35p each :-) I'm not sure why dates are printed on tins.Â* How did we survive before the dates were printed?Â* I've used countless tins that were well past the printed date, and never noticed a difference in the quality of the contents, or spent the next few days 'squatting'. Meaty stuff can last well, but tinned fruit or veg should not be consumed too long after the use-by date because the acids in the contents can etch the container. I assume this is why the tins of peaches etc seem to have a white plastic lining of some sort. Botulism is rather nasty remember. There was a story once about a chap admitted to A&E and was unable to communicate. Once Botulism was suspected the staff has the foresight to ask the police to go round to his house and see if his wife had eaten any of the same. |
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On 12/11/2019 20:11, Andrew wrote:
On 09/11/2019 19:44, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjarÂ* wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza I thought haggis came in a sheeps stomach, not in a tin ?. You feed the sheep chopped lung and oatmeal until it explodes. -- Max Demian |
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Andrew wrote:
On 09/11/2019 19:44, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjar wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza Owain I thought haggis came in a sheeps stomach, not in a tin ?. Traditionally the €˜skin was a sheeps stomach but these days it tends to be some an (often non-edible) alternative. The tin stuff is the ultimate sacrilege ;-) (and Im not even Scottish). |
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On Sunday, 10 November 2019 11:51:01 UTC, Brian Reay wrote: TINNED Haggis??? It is probably farmed. Wild haggis is the best. Yes, I think the way they force the baby haggi into little tubes so they grow cylindrically to fit into the tins is a bit cruel. Like those square pigs they slice up for sandwich ham. Owain That was the EU rules the Remainers want to keep. You should see the little square pigs in some EU countries ;-) As for the little baby haggi, why do you think the Scots voted the Remain? ;-) |
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:11:46 +0000, Brian Reay wrote:
Andrew wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:44, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjar wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza Owain I thought haggis came in a sheeps stomach, not in a tin ?. Traditionally the €˜skin was a sheeps stomach but these days it tends to be some an (often non-edible) alternative. The tin stuff is the ultimate sacrilege ;-) (and Im not even Scottish). I used to travel to Edinburgh quite a bit, and would always visit MacSweens to get a consignment of haggis over the counter. They showed up well on the airport X-ray - I always thought they resembled grenades. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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Max Demian wrote:
On 12/11/2019 20:11, Andrew wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:44, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjarÂ* wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza I thought haggis came in a sheeps stomach, not in a tin ?. You feed the sheep chopped lung and oatmeal until it explodes. Are you saying they Ram it in. GH |
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Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:11:46 +0000, Brian Reay wrote: Andrew wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:44, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjar wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza Owain I thought haggis came in a sheeps stomach, not in a tin ?. Traditionally the €˜skin was a sheeps stomach but these days it tends to be some an (often non-edible) alternative. The tin stuff is the ultimate sacrilege ;-) (and Im not even Scottish). I used to travel to Edinburgh quite a bit, and would always visit MacSweens to get a consignment of haggis over the counter. They showed up well on the airport X-ray - I always thought they resembled grenades. Ive often thought the security people at airports must see some peculiar things in luggage. Senior Management was regularly stopped when she used to fly to Brussels. Her hair dryer- a small one for traveling- apparently looked like a gun. |
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 08:56:05 +0000, Brian Reay wrote:
Bob Eager wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:11:46 +0000, Brian Reay wrote: Andrew wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:44, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjar wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza Owain I thought haggis came in a sheeps stomach, not in a tin ?. Traditionally the €˜skin was a sheeps stomach but these days it tends to be some an (often non-edible) alternative. The tin stuff is the ultimate sacrilege ;-) (and Im not even Scottish). I used to travel to Edinburgh quite a bit, and would always visit MacSweens to get a consignment of haggis over the counter. They showed up well on the airport X-ray - I always thought they resembled grenades. Ive often thought the security people at airports must see some peculiar things in luggage. Senior Management was regularly stopped when she used to fly to Brussels. Her hair dryer- a small one for traveling- apparently looked like a gun. My worst one wasn't a specific item. Some years ago, SWMBO was giving a paper at a conference in Sydney. The plan was to meet up in Vancouver after her conference (I have relatives there), as she had a round-the-world ticket. I had examiners' meetings booked so I couldn't go with her. An exams officer cocked up a load of marks and it all had to be postponed. So I managed to change my return ticket to Vancouver so I went via Sydney, phoned her guest house so that they could make up some story about moving her to a double room because of overbooking (they were quite convincing apparently), and off I went. I travel light anyway (I wear mostly Rohan gear), and there were things I didn't need to duplicate in my own luggage. So my suitcase was about 10kg. Arrived at Heathrow, and it was immediately diverted for a security scan. I got a detailed one too. On arrival at Sydney, I was pulled aside for an 'interview' and my luggage was searched *very* thoroughly. The perils of travelling light. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:02:35 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 12/11/2019 15:41, whisky-dave wrote: On Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:34:02 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Andy Bennet wrote: Seeking out the freshest goods and paying the asking price is common sense. True. Perhaps those who don't want this just have it delivered? True, but I also look for BOGOF and similar deals rather than just assuming the asking price is the right price or the cheapest. Plus I get those annoying vouchers through the post that are sometimes worth looking at, which give you a discount or added reward points. Be aware that BOGOF deals are usually paid for by the supplier, why should I care ? not the supermarket. The supplier generally has little say in it, apart from when their continuous manufacturing operation is out of kilter with what the public is buying. |
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On Tuesday, 12 November 2019 23:11:51 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
wrote: On Sunday, 10 November 2019 11:51:01 UTC, Brian Reay wrote: TINNED Haggis??? It is probably farmed. Wild haggis is the best. Yes, I think the way they force the baby haggi into little tubes so they grow cylindrically to fit into the tins is a bit cruel. Like those square pigs they slice up for sandwich ham. Owain That was the EU rules the Remainers want to keep. You should see the little square pigs in some EU countries ;-) As for the little baby haggi, why do you think the Scots voted the Remain? So they could decide on the age of consent for a hassis ? without EU intervention . ;-) |
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On 12/11/2019 23:16, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:11:46 +0000, Brian Reay wrote: Andrew wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:44, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjar wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza Owain I thought haggis came in a sheeps stomach, not in a tin ?. Traditionally the €˜skin was a sheeps stomach but these days it tends to be some an (often non-edible) alternative. The tin stuff is the ultimate sacrilege ;-) (and Im not even Scottish). I used to travel to Edinburgh quite a bit, and would always visit MacSweens to get a consignment of haggis over the counter. They showed up well on the airport X-ray - I always thought they resembled grenades. And some people might say, just as dangerous, liable to explode without warning :-) |
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Brian Reay wrote: Bob Eager wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:11:46 +0000, Brian Reay wrote: Andrew wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:44, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:39:17 UTC, nightjar wrote: I'm trying, and failing, to think of any circumstances in which I might buy 72 tins of haggis. :-) The circumstances were they were about 35p each (normally £1.50). Haggis marinara Haggis risotto Haggis pizza Owain I thought haggis came in a sheeps stomach, not in a tin ?. Traditionally the 'skin' was a sheep's stomach but these days it tends to be some an (often non-edible) alternative. The tin stuff is the ultimate sacrilege ;-) (and I'm not even Scottish). I used to travel to Edinburgh quite a bit, and would always visit MacSweens to get a consignment of haggis over the counter. They showed up well on the airport X-ray - I always thought they resembled grenades. I've often thought the security people at airports must see some peculiar things in luggage. Senior Management was regularly stopped when she used to fly to Brussels. Her hair dryer- a small one for traveling- apparently looked like a gun. A great many yearsa go, my pipe cleaners looked like detonator wires. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 13/11/2019 11:28, Bob Eager wrote:
I travel light anyway (I wear mostly Rohan gear), and there were things I didn't need to duplicate in my own luggage. So my suitcase was about 10kg. Arrived at Heathrow, and it was immediately diverted for a security scan. I got a detailed one too. You need deep pockets to buy Rohan clothing these days :-( 22 types of mens trousers, now including 'jeans' (*) but no more Uplanders for some reason. My 25-YO pair are getting tired. (*) The very thing that the original Rohan founders despised and the reason why the developed their own easy-dry fabrics. |
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Andrew wrote: On 13/11/2019 11:28, Bob Eager wrote: I travel light anyway (I wear mostly Rohan gear), and there were things I didn't need to duplicate in my own luggage. So my suitcase was about 10kg. Arrived at Heathrow, and it was immediately diverted for a security scan. I got a detailed one too. You need deep pockets to buy Rohan clothing these days :-( I always wait for their sales. 22 types of mens trousers, now including 'jeans' (*) but no more Uplanders for some reason. My 25-YO pair are getting tired. (*) The very thing that the original Rohan founders despised and the reason why the developed their own easy-dry fabrics. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 13/11/2019 08:56, Brian Reay wrote:
Ive often thought the security people at airports must see some peculiar things in luggage. Senior Management was regularly stopped when she used to fly to Brussels. Her hair dryer - a small one for traveling- apparently looked like a gun. A smarter traveller, after the first incident of this kind, would avoid further 'stops' by buying a travel hair-dryer that didn't look like a gun, rather than keep suffering the inconvenience. -- Spike |
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Andy Bennet wrote: I think the delivery pickers take all the oldest stuff. I'd be most surprised if they didn't. Although not sure where they get the stuff from - a local store, or a central warehouse where you'd assume most things are 'fresher' than in the stores? -- *If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 12:35:31 +0000, Andrew wrote:
On 13/11/2019 11:28, Bob Eager wrote: I travel light anyway (I wear mostly Rohan gear), and there were things I didn't need to duplicate in my own luggage. So my suitcase was about 10kg. Arrived at Heathrow, and it was immediately diverted for a security scan. I got a detailed one too. You need deep pockets to buy Rohan clothing these days :-( I think you always did. But they last a long time. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 13/11/2019 15:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Although not sure where they get the stuff from Don't you ever visit supermarkets? There are always teams of pickers roaming my local supermarket with hand-held terminals and a trolley with 6-8 baskets on it. Lots of consult hand-held (tells them row, shelf, item), scan it, scan barcode on basket on trolley, place it in basket. Lather, rinse, repeat. The items come from the shelves, mainly. |
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On 13/11/2019 13:55, Spike wrote:
On 13/11/2019 08:56, Brian Reay wrote: Ive often thought the security people at airports must see some peculiar things in luggage. Senior Management was regularly stopped when she used to fly to Brussels. Her hair dryer - a small one for traveling- apparently looked like a gun. A smarter traveller, after the first incident of this kind, would avoid further 'stops' by buying a travel hair-dryer that didn't look like a gun, rather than keep suffering the inconvenience. Or they could use their diplomatic passport and not get stopped. |
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mm0fmf wrote: On 13/11/2019 15:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Although not sure where they get the stuff from Don't you ever visit supermarkets? There are always teams of pickers roaming my local supermarket with hand-held terminals and a trolley with 6-8 baskets on it. Lots of consult hand-held (tells them row, shelf, item), scan it, scan barcode on basket on trolley, place it in basket. Lather, rinse, repeat. Not at my local one. -- *Reality is the illusion that occurs due to the lack of alcohol * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 13/11/2019 15:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Andy Bennet wrote: I think the delivery pickers take all the oldest stuff. I'd be most surprised if they didn't. I don't think they do any more. Probably too many people were finding problems like we did - order food for a week and find that everything had to be used within 3 days! We stopped using home delivery or click and collect for quite a while because of it. There seems to be a much better product life now, but whether they are just picking randomly or deliberately picking fresher products, I don't know. Even with click and collect, they warn (Tesco) if some items only have a short life remaining, before you take them. Although not sure where they get the stuff from - a local store, or a central warehouse where you'd assume most things are 'fresher' than in the stores? Some from the back of the store before it goes out to the shelves and some from the shelves, if they are similar to our various local stores. SteveW |
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:33:32 +0000, Steve Walker wrote:
On 13/11/2019 15:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Andy Bennet wrote: I think the delivery pickers take all the oldest stuff. I'd be most surprised if they didn't. I don't think they do any more. Probably too many people were finding problems like we did - order food for a week and find that everything had to be used within 3 days! We stopped using home delivery or click and collect for quite a while because of it. Ocado product life seems excellent, probably because of the shorter supply chain. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 13/11/2019 22:15, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:33:32 +0000, Steve Walker wrote: On 13/11/2019 15:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Andy Bennet wrote: I think the delivery pickers take all the oldest stuff. I'd be most surprised if they didn't. I don't think they do any more. Probably too many people were finding problems like we did - order food for a week and find that everything had to be used within 3 days! We stopped using home delivery or click and collect for quite a while because of it. Ocado product life seems excellent, probably because of the shorter supply chain. Tesco seems fine these days. It was just in the early days of home delivery and click and collect that there seemed to be problems. SteveW |
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