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The wife and I (well...more the wife) are looking to replace the
kitchen and are looking at MFI and IKEA as potential suppliers. The MFI
kitchen looks good and has a good price, but I would like anyone's
thoughts before I take the plunge.

Can anyone help?

THanks
Tony

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Hi

The wife and I (well...more the wife) are looking to replace the
kitchen and are looking at MFI and IKEA as potential suppliers. The MFI
kitchen looks good and has a good price, but I would like anyone's
thoughts before I take the plunge.

Can anyone help?


Couple of points, the lack of pipe space at the rear of IKEA units is a pain
and MFI take the delivery risk but there are bound to be some parts out of
stock at IKEA.

Apart from that there are sizing differences which may make a diference, for
example MFI drawer units are 600mm and IKEA are 400mm. Ditto tall units are
different widths. That might make a difference if you are tight for space.

IMHO MFI are excellent value for money assuming you get the (almost
permanent) sale prices.

Jim A


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Hi

The wife and I (well...more the wife) are looking to replace the
kitchen and are looking at MFI and IKEA as potential suppliers. The MFI
kitchen looks good and has a good price, but I would like anyone's
thoughts before I take the plunge.

Can anyone help?



Couple of points, the lack of pipe space at the rear of IKEA units is a pain
and MFI take the delivery risk but there are bound to be some parts out of
stock at IKEA.

Apart from that there are sizing differences which may make a diference, for
example MFI drawer units are 600mm and IKEA are 400mm. Ditto tall units are
different widths. That might make a difference if you are tight for space.

IMHO MFI are excellent value for money assuming you get the (almost
permanent) sale prices.


I've just fitted an ikea kitchen. MFI's attitude and shop were a
notable factor in the decision, but the choice of unit widths was also
better from ikea - we've got a small kitchen, and fitted units 30, 40,
50 and 60 cm wide. 60 drawer units are now available.


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Ikea.

Put my kitchen in last year and was really pleased with the result.
Everything is modular too, meaning an average base unit requires 5 separate
parts giving loads of flexibility if you need to customise any units. The
cost of these parts added up is the price they advertise!

All units are standard metric (300mm, 500mm 600mm etc.) but generally
undersized by a few mm.

Plus, they do those things now that stop your cupboards/draws from slamming.


Things to watch for...

The units are really deep (580mm) - you need to be really careful with
pipework/cables behind units.

The worktops are susceptible to splitting just under the front edge if
they get wet. It's probably solvable with a bit of PVA though.




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On 3 May 2005 04:20:01 -0700, wrote:

Hi

The wife and I (well...more the wife) are looking to replace the
kitchen and are looking at MFI and IKEA as potential suppliers. The MFI
kitchen looks good and has a good price, but I would like anyone's
thoughts before I take the plunge.

Can anyone help?

THanks
Tony


Maybe the insides or the fastenings will help you decide. I'd go more
towards IKEA, but there may be issues with sizes/fittings being
scandanavian, dunno though.









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Jim Alexander wrote:
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Hi

The wife and I (well...more the wife) are looking to replace the
kitchen and are looking at MFI and IKEA as potential suppliers. The MFI
kitchen looks good and has a good price, but I would like anyone's
thoughts before I take the plunge.

Can anyone help?



Couple of points, the lack of pipe space at the rear of IKEA units is a
pain and MFI take the delivery risk but there are bound to be some parts
out of stock at IKEA.

Apart from that there are sizing differences which may make a diference,
for example MFI drawer units are 600mm and IKEA are 400mm. Ditto tall
units are different widths. That might make a difference if you are
tight for space.

IMHO MFI are excellent value for money assuming you get the (almost
permanent) sale prices.


I've just fitted an ikea kitchen. MFI's attitude and shop were a notable
factor in the decision, but the choice of unit widths was also better from
ikea - we've got a small kitchen, and fitted units 30, 40, 50 and 60 cm
wide. 60 drawer units are now available.

That's interesting about the shop. You've reminded me that I sidestepped
the poor MFI shop service by ordering online.

Jim A


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wrote in message
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Hi

The wife and I (well...more the wife) are looking to replace the
kitchen and are looking at MFI and IKEA as potential suppliers. The MFI
kitchen looks good and has a good price, but I would like anyone's
thoughts before I take the plunge.

Can anyone help?

THanks
Tony

can't comment on ikea, but recently went in mfi and was pleasantly surprised
iirc there were 2 main ranges schreiber and ??? , neadless to say 'the
boss' picked the dearest :-(
Also well worth a look is wickes range, I fitted one about 6 years ago, good
quality with solid backs + very good service, will probably go with wickes
again this time

Regards Jeff


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wrote:
Hi

The wife and I (well...more the wife) are looking to replace the
kitchen and are looking at MFI and IKEA as potential suppliers. The MFI
kitchen looks good and has a good price, but I would like anyone's
thoughts before I take the plunge.


I recently put in my Ikea kitchen and can throw a few more thoughts into
the general pool:

Pros:

* (In my case) drove to Ikea on a Saturday morning - everything in
stock, ferried it all back home (had to make two trips with an estate
car) - job done in a day. No waiting for delivery, and there was not.
One. Single. Thing. Missing. In £1500 worth of wall and base units. I
was well impressed :-)
* Units are spacious and deep (but see cons...)
* Wall units available in 900mm heights (which I really wanted).
* Quality is good - sturdy base units made from good thick board, doors
and drawer fronts in solid wood (in some ranges).
* Fittings are good quality - good robust hinges, drawer runners are top
quality Blum and feel very nice.
* Finished appearance is fine as long as you take time and care to do
the assembly job properly.
* Decent range of sizes, options etc
* Prices are very good indeed IMHO, and they don't charge a fortune for
the little bits like legs, cornices, decor strips, plinths etc.

Cons:

* Base and wall carcasses are white only, can't colour match to doors
and drawer fronts.
* No space for pipework at the back, though pipes can be run easily in
the void under the units but that may mean more plumbing than you want.
* While quality is good, doors and drawer fronts feel a little
lightweight and insubstantial to me, though they have been robust so far.
* A bit basic and lacking in finesse - no soft closers, etc, though
another post leads me to suspect this may have changed recently.

A friend at work had a small kitchen supplied and installed recently by
MFI and the grief that he with supply (missing/wrong parts, delays,
fights with the store, arguments over costs) and fitting (fitters
walking off the job, late, taking longer than promised) made me value my
Ikea experience. (As far as I know it was just the purchase and
installation that was awful for him, the kitchen itself was fine.)
Admittedly I did a lot of the work on mine myself and didn't use
fitters, but it was painless and I am very happy with the result.

HTH

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Our MFI kitchen was fitted about 6 years ago and still looks good. There
were no parts missing at all.





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Jim Alexander wrote:

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Hi

The wife and I (well...more the wife) are looking to replace the
kitchen and are looking at MFI and IKEA as potential suppliers. The MFI
kitchen looks good and has a good price, but I would like anyone's
thoughts before I take the plunge.

Can anyone help?



Couple of points, the lack of pipe space at the rear of IKEA units is a pain
and MFI take the delivery risk but there are bound to be some parts out of
stock at IKEA.

Apart from that there are sizing differences which may make a diference, for
example MFI drawer units are 600mm and IKEA are 400mm. Ditto tall units are
different widths. That might make a difference if you are tight for space.


You can get 400mm drawer...in most MFI ranges


IMHO MFI are excellent value for money assuming you get the (almost
permanent) sale prices.

Jim A


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"Jim Alexander" wrote:


Couple of points, the lack of pipe space at the rear of IKEA units is a pain

[...]

Apart from that there are sizing differences which may make a diference, for
example MFI drawer units are 600mm and IKEA are 400mm. Ditto tall units are
different widths. That might make a difference if you are tight for space.


We fitted an Ikea kitchen last year and got around the lack of pipe
space by re-arranging pipework to run at skirting level. How practical
this would be elsewhere is really determined by the layout of the
kitchen.

One potential advantage to this I didn't think of at the time is that it
is theoretically possible... erm... well... perhaps, to get at the pipes
and so on without dismantling the units. Services run behind units are
effectively sealed in until you decide to remove the unit. Run them at
skirting level and once you've removed the plinth you've a chance... if
your arms are exceptionally long and thin. As it happens, I've arranged
the pipe runs so that there are no joints in this area so hopefully it
won't be an issue.

As for the drawers, ISTR that there were 400, 600 and 800 units in
3-drawer and 5-drawer available when we bought. Possibly the 5-drawer
wasn't available at 800 and certainly the 800 wasn't available in all
styles. We have both 400 and 800 in our kitchen. They are standing up to
a lot of abuse too - one of the 800 units has the bulk of our crockery
in it and must be holding a heck of a lot of weight, the other has all
the tinned food. As it happens both 800 units are near side walls so
they're screwed to battens attached to those walls as well as being
attached to the wall behind where possible.

Having never fitted a kitchen of any sort previously I was pleasantly
surprised. Not only that, but (contrary to stories I have since heard)
everything was delivered on time, complete and undamaged. The icing on
the cake was that we went to the store when they happened to be having
one of their 20%-off-everything days (we didn't know this until we
turned up) and with the money we therefore saved we were able to afford
the dishwasher we were leaving a space for. We did break one unit leg,
but they're available off-the-shelf so it was very easy to replace.

Our decision to go for drawers instead of cupboards where possible was
definitely the correct one too - pull the thing out and you have instant
access to everything inside without having to unpack the front of the
shelf first. Brilliant.

Hwyl!

M.

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RedOnRed wrote:
Our MFI kitchen was fitted about 6 years ago and still looks good.

There
were no parts missing at all.



I've bought plenty of MFI kitchens and other furniture over the years
and there's never been one single thing missing. People who often say
this either haven't ever bought anything from MFI in their life,
haven't looked properly or used the wrong fixing or part in the wrong
place to begin with. Take your time, read the instructions properly and
you'll always have no problems.
They also say that men who take their time with flat pack furniture are
better lovers.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Most expensive MFI kitchen I have installed was a shade over £600...


Not quite sure what this is intended to mean, but without knowing the
number of units involved in each case, it doesn't really help in a
comparison of costs.

I remember that the Ikea prices were a lot less than those in the MFI
price list, but as others have pointed out, MFI have a near-permanent
sale on, so their price list was probably pretty unrepresentative of
reality anyway.

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I'd look at Wickes - well built, good service, good prices and good
delivery.
I have used them for a kitchen and one fitted bedroom. The other
fitted
bedroom I used MFI and to be honest never again. Not only were parts
missing
and damaged on delivery, but they had sold me items from a range which
was discontinued without pointing this out to me. So when I reported
the
parts missing and damaged they told me they could not replace any parts
-
despite the fact the range was still on sale.

For the damaged part and one of the missing parts, it took me 6 months
and
letters to the MD to convince them to open a box of the same unit that
they
still had in their warehouse to get the parts I needed as their spares
dept.
could not supply the items. For the one remaining missing part I had
almost camp out in one of their showrooms to convince them to remove
said
part from a display model.

So MFI never again.......Wickes I'd recommend them....IKEA I know
nothing !!!



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`Hi,
Dont know if this has been said befdore couldnt really be bothered to
re-read it all. Just fitted a IKEA kitchen, after getting a quote from MFI
and the guy in the store told me to wait till after some date (Cant remember
what) as the prices have just gone up to accomodate the sale they were about
to have, kinda made my mind up that I wasnt going to go for MFI.

Anyhow designed kitchen using the ikea kitchen program, then wentt o store
with piece of paper and they ordered it all for me, (about £1000 for about
14 cabinets) they said delivery may be up to 2 weeks but within the week got
a call. All products were there some over pieces the only problem being that
I have 2 metal bars that I have no idea where they go. Got the worksurface
from there and worked out so much cheaper than say wickes and looks breally
good esp when u get mitered joints, from a local cabinet maker (If you in
essex region let me know have a great contact)

Anyway cut a long story short I would go for IKEA again, just bear in mind
the pipes which ok are a bit of a pain but does give you very big draws.
Olly


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"deep in some" wrote in
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So MFI never again.......Wickes I'd recommend them....IKEA I know
nothing !!!


My biggest gripe about Wickes is their lack of range of wall cabinets.
Their standard ones simply do not work for us so we shallbe going to...
umm, somewhere else.


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* A bit basic and lacking in finesse - no soft closers, etc, though
another post leads me to suspect this may have changed recently.


yep, little black things that fit just inside the units to stop the
doors/drawers slamming. These have been added since I bought my kitchen,
and I couldn't find them anywhere so I assume you get them with the units
:-(

Actually, does anybody know where I can get these (or similar)?





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"RayDavis" wrote in message
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* A bit basic and lacking in finesse - no soft closers, etc, though
another post leads me to suspect this may have changed recently.


yep, little black things that fit just inside the units to stop the
doors/drawers slamming. These have been added since I bought my kitchen,
and I couldn't find them anywhere so I assume you get them with the units
:-(

Actually, does anybody know where I can get these (or similar)?




You can get self adhesive buffers from ebay.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Kitchen-Specialist-Shop


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"Kaiser" wrote in news:427933ab$0$303$cc9e4d1f@news-
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http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Kitchen-Specialist-Shop


Or http://www.isaaclord.co.uk/ - and they sell various special housings
for them. (I did check and Wickes fit genuine Blum fittings. Don't know
about the other shops.) If visiting in person, go to the trade counter
(which has different opening hours). From memory, something like £17-50 for
10.

As you might have guessed, I am thinking of fitting them when we do the
kitchen. Does anyone have a good method of drilling 8mm holes straight into
the carcases? I wondered if any of the dowelling jigs could be adapted?

Go to http://www.blum.com/group/en/03/02/05/index.jsp for details fo the
full range, etc.

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yep, little black things that fit just inside the units to stop the
doors/drawers slamming. These have been added since I bought my kitchen,
and I couldn't find them anywhere so I assume you get them with the units
:-(


I bought mine from B&Q. Fitted the preexisting holes in my MFI kitchen
carcasses. Much nicer that those old tacky stick on bumpers.

Christian.


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Have you tried Howdens

Except that they don't deal directly with the public....


They also don't stock the colour matched carcass side panels, which is
important if you're not going for white. They just give you a chunk of
coloured chipboard to cut to size and glue on, which looks cheap and nasty
in comparison to the correctly manufactured replacement side panels.

Christian.


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