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On 5/20/2013 03:11, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

Thanks! Ill have to double check my file pitches and if I dont have
one...will have to snag one somewhere. Im pretty sure I
dont....but...need to double check



Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...


Pun intended? G



Maybe. Or it may have been sarcasm. ;-)
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Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

I'm certain that NObody _wants_ too many tools.
Some folks would be inclined to get rid of too many tools.



That's how I got a few of my expensive tools. I got a call, "Come
get this out of my way today, and it's free!"


My shop is filled with such tools. I purely couldnt afford 25% of all
that I have, if I had to pay cash for them.


I'm having to come up with an inventory of the tool bag for an
insurance claim. "Cost?" Um ... it just showed up one day.
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Tools, books, supplies ... I've a quarter ton of fire brick I've
schlepped from place to place - always intending to do something with
them "soon".



It would make a nice pit to burn expired trolls in.


I have, a swamp ...

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Gunner Asch on Mon, 20 May 2013 13:16:29 -0700
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:42:02 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

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Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

I'm certain that NObody _wants_ too many tools.
Some folks would be inclined to get rid of too many tools.


That's how I got a few of my expensive tools. I got a call, "Come
get this out of my way today, and it's free!"


My shop is filled with such tools. I purely couldnt afford 25% of all
that I have, if I had to pay cash for them.


I'm having to come up with an inventory of the tool bag for an
insurance claim. "Cost?" Um ... it just showed up one day.
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"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."


Check MSC and Ebay and quote it retail. They dont ask what you paid
for it..but only what its replacement cost is.


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Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid® to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

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pyotr filipivich wrote:

Tools, books, supplies ... I've a quarter ton of fire brick I've
schlepped from place to place - always intending to do something with
them "soon".



It would make a nice pit to burn expired trolls in.


I have, a swamp ...



I have a bigger swamp. It covers a big part of Florida. Tourist go
in, but they don't come out. The fools think they can feed & play with
real gators, and lose every time.


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On Mon, 20 May 2013 03:11:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Gunner Asch wrote:

Thanks! Ill have to double check my file pitches and if I dont have
one...will have to snag one somewhere. Im pretty sure I
dont....but...need to double check


Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...


Sheesh! I plonked that buttbite years ago. bTMTeg

Good thread wander, BTW.



Too bad Usenet doesn't keep track of how many times someone is kill
filed on a group to determine if they are allowed to access that group.


Wouldn't that be nice?


Wandering-
Metal related banter: Well, I saw the inside of an ER yesterday (and
today.) A pristine (used) Chiwanese pruning saw blade decided to jump
the cut, careen off a hovering branch, and embed itself a foot away,
into the top of my left hand. I lucked out, though. The kitchen
faucet washed out all of the debris but I found that the skin was too
far open to butterfly properly and I bit the bullet and hit the
Immediate Care place. They wanted $192-298 just to walk in, plus
whatever a tetanus shot, irrigation kit, and suture kit cost, plus
$100/stitch, and they wanted it all RIGHT NOW!

The other option was the "make payments" route. It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I dunno.)

I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.

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Larry Jaques wrote:

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The other option was the "make payments" route. It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I dunno.)


I bashed my index finger with a hammer really bad last fall while
re-roofing. It felt and looked really bad... Lone Ranger project and I
was only a third done or so. Washed, bandaged, back at it. I couldn't
feel the tip of it anymore. Had to hold nails with my second finger,
which slowed me down a little. Damn 1 inch roofing nails making hitting
your fingers real easy...

If you don't mind, I'd be curious to hear what the final bill comes to.
The numbers you posted just boggle my mind. Unless your picture is
hiding something, I don't even consider going in for something like
that. Email me if you don't want to post it here. I just don't go to the
doctor for anything. Dealing with all the stupid paperwork, unknown
cost for everything, whether they will even see you without having
insurance... is more traumatic than whatever my problem is.

Best of luck with your oopsie.

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On Tue, 21 May 2013 11:11:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:45:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 20 May 2013 03:11:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

Thanks! Ill have to double check my file pitches and if I dont have
one...will have to snag one somewhere. Im pretty sure I
dont....but...need to double check


Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

Sheesh! I plonked that buttbite years ago. bTMTeg

Good thread wander, BTW.



Too bad Usenet doesn't keep track of how many times someone is kill
filed on a group to determine if they are allowed to access that group.


Wouldn't that be nice?


Wandering-
Metal related banter: Well, I saw the inside of an ER yesterday (and
today.) A pristine (used) Chiwanese pruning saw blade decided to jump
the cut, careen off a hovering branch, and embed itself a foot away,
into the top of my left hand. I lucked out, though. The kitchen
faucet washed out all of the debris but I found that the skin was too
far open to butterfly properly and I bit the bullet and hit the
Immediate Care place. They wanted $192-298 just to walk in, plus
whatever a tetanus shot, irrigation kit, and suture kit cost, plus
$100/stitch, and they wanted it all RIGHT NOW!

The other option was the "make payments" route. It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I dunno.)

I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.



You paid to have that fixed???? Blink blink

Must be nice to be rich.

Gunner

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Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid® to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

They HATE the truth."

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Larry Jaques
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The other option was the "make payments" route.
It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new
stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I
guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I
dunno.)


I bashed my index finger with a hammer really
bad last fall while
re-roofing. It felt and looked really bad...
Lone Ranger project and I
was only a third done or so. Washed, bandaged,
back at it. I couldn't
feel the tip of it anymore. Had to hold nails
with my second finger,
which slowed me down a little. Damn 1 inch
roofing nails making hitting
your fingers real easy...

If you don't mind, I'd be curious to hear what
the final bill comes to.
The numbers you posted just boggle my mind.
Unless your picture is
hiding something, I don't even consider going in
for something like
that. Email me if you don't want to post it
here. I just don't go to the
doctor for anything. Dealing with all the stupid
paperwork, unknown
cost for everything, whether they will even see
you without having
insurance... is more traumatic than whatever my
problem is.

Best of luck with your oopsie.

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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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You're self pay? Then you are being charged the
maximum
known as the 'chargemaster rate' . Do a web search
for it.



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On Tue, 21 May 2013 11:11:48 -0700
Larry Jaques
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snip
The other option was the "make payments" route.
It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new
stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I
guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I
dunno.)


I bashed my index finger with a hammer really
bad last fall while
re-roofing. It felt and looked really bad...
Lone Ranger project and I
was only a third done or so. Washed, bandaged,
back at it. I couldn't
feel the tip of it anymore. Had to hold nails
with my second finger,
which slowed me down a little. Damn 1 inch
roofing nails making hitting
your fingers real easy...

If you don't mind, I'd be curious to hear what
the final bill comes to.
The numbers you posted just boggle my mind.
Unless your picture is
hiding something, I don't even consider going in
for something like
that. Email me if you don't want to post it
here. I just don't go to the
doctor for anything. Dealing with all the stupid
paperwork, unknown
cost for everything, whether they will even see
you without having
insurance... is more traumatic than whatever my
problem is.

Best of luck with your oopsie.

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
Remove no.spam for email


You're self pay? Then you are being charged the
maximum
known as the 'chargemaster rate' . Do a web search
for it.


And as someone who's vehemently against healthcare reform, and who has
time to waste in this newsgroup but doesn't have insurance, he
deserves to pay whatever they feel like billing him. Pay being a
relative term in his case. He might make payments on the repair of his
booboo, but if anything serious happens to him it will be on the
taxpayers' nickel, just like his hero Gunner.


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I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.



You paid to have that fixed???? Blink blink

Must be nice to be rich.

Gunner



No! No! You obviously do not understand. It was a wound; the skin was
damaged; blood was dripping. Prehaps without a visit to the emergency
Clinic he would have died.

Or he could have painted it with Iodine and put a bandaid on it :-)
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:45:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 20 May 2013 03:11:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

Thanks! Ill have to double check my file pitches and if I dont have
one...will have to snag one somewhere. Im pretty sure I
dont....but...need to double check


Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

Sheesh! I plonked that buttbite years ago. bTMTeg

Good thread wander, BTW.



Too bad Usenet doesn't keep track of how many times someone is kill
filed on a group to determine if they are allowed to access that group.


Wouldn't that be nice?

Wandering-
Metal related banter: Well, I saw the inside of an ER yesterday (and
today.) A pristine (used) Chiwanese pruning saw blade decided to jump
the cut, careen off a hovering branch, and embed itself a foot away,
into the top of my left hand. I lucked out, though. The kitchen
faucet washed out all of the debris but I found that the skin was too
far open to butterfly properly and I bit the bullet and hit the
Immediate Care place. They wanted $192-298 just to walk in, plus
whatever a tetanus shot, irrigation kit, and suture kit cost, plus
$100/stitch, and they wanted it all RIGHT NOW!

The other option was the "make payments" route. It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I dunno.)

I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.



A couple things to consider:

1. Become a plumber.

2: Stay out of those expensive places.

3: Don't take up chain saw juggling, you can't afford it. ;-)

4: It will heal much faster than this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/materrell/8777739794/
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 06:40:23 +0700, John B. slocomb
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:33 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 11:11:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
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I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.



You paid to have that fixed???? Blink blink

Must be nice to be rich.

Gunner



No! No! You obviously do not understand. It was a wound; the skin was
damaged; blood was dripping. Prehaps without a visit to the emergency
Clinic he would have died.

Or he could have painted it with Iodine and put a bandaid on it :-)


Around here...we would have taken out a bottle of betadyne, irrigated
it really well, then irrigated it with betadene (dyne?) and then wipe
it externally dry, stick on 3 butterflies to draw it closed and then
a gauze pad over it with maybe..a wooden splint in the wrapping
securing the two fingers for a few days until the wound started
healing at the bottom and gets a good start. If you are in a
"infective" area...fill the hole with neosporin from the 99c store.

Check it in a day or two after that, wash it out again , betadyne it
again, wrap it with gauze for another couple days, check again, then
gauze it until the gauze falls off...or wear a good clean cotton glove
to keep it from banging into things too hard. Tylenol as needed.

If you keep the splint in there...the meat will grow tightly and the
hand will be so stiff for months..it will be nearly useless until you
work with it enough (and under great pain) to get additional meat to
fill out the pressure points.

May not be comfy for a while..but it works. Been there..done that many
times. Same with the wife, kid and critters. Critters I have to
shave and dont use betadyne or neosporin.

Or he could have put in some of his own stitches. Been there, done
that..but it is much better if you have a neighbor willing to sew.

Gunner




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Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid® to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

They HATE the truth."

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On Tue, 21 May 2013 11:11:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:45:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 20 May 2013 03:11:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

Thanks! Ill have to double check my file pitches and if I dont have
one...will have to snag one somewhere. Im pretty sure I
dont....but...need to double check


Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

Sheesh! I plonked that buttbite years ago. bTMTeg

Good thread wander, BTW.


Too bad Usenet doesn't keep track of how many times someone is kill
filed on a group to determine if they are allowed to access that group.


Wouldn't that be nice?


Wandering-
Metal related banter: Well, I saw the inside of an ER yesterday (and
today.) A pristine (used) Chiwanese pruning saw blade decided to jump
the cut, careen off a hovering branch, and embed itself a foot away,
into the top of my left hand. I lucked out, though. The kitchen
faucet washed out all of the debris but I found that the skin was too
far open to butterfly properly and I bit the bullet and hit the
Immediate Care place. They wanted $192-298 just to walk in, plus
whatever a tetanus shot, irrigation kit, and suture kit cost, plus
$100/stitch, and they wanted it all RIGHT NOW!

The other option was the "make payments" route. It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I dunno.)

I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.



You paid to have that fixed???? Blink blink


If I didn't use my hands to make a living, I might have tried to
simply butterfly it, but the gap scared me. I saw tendons and the
synovial cap over my index finger joint as the saw was sliding off the
skin of my hand. It's no big deal on someone else, but it's scary when
you see your own insides. That generally indicates something is very
wrong, KWIM,V?

I've successfully butterflied deep meat wounds, but nothing where the
skin was floating, such as the skin over my hand.


Must be nice to be rich.


Har! Hell, Gunner, you make more money than I do annually. I's a po
white chile.

Oddly enough, I still haven't been contacted by their financial staff.
It'll be a scary moment, but it'll work into a low monthly payment.

Well, until I become rich and famous with the Green Monster...

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surprise, it's a lot easier to hit your targets
if you don't yell going through the door.
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:21:00 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:45:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 20 May 2013 03:11:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

Thanks! Ill have to double check my file pitches and if I dont have
one...will have to snag one somewhere. Im pretty sure I
dont....but...need to double check


Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

Sheesh! I plonked that buttbite years ago. bTMTeg

Good thread wander, BTW.


Too bad Usenet doesn't keep track of how many times someone is kill
filed on a group to determine if they are allowed to access that group.


Wouldn't that be nice?

Wandering-
Metal related banter: Well, I saw the inside of an ER yesterday (and
today.) A pristine (used) Chiwanese pruning saw blade decided to jump
the cut, careen off a hovering branch, and embed itself a foot away,
into the top of my left hand. I lucked out, though. The kitchen
faucet washed out all of the debris but I found that the skin was too
far open to butterfly properly and I bit the bullet and hit the
Immediate Care place. They wanted $192-298 just to walk in, plus
whatever a tetanus shot, irrigation kit, and suture kit cost, plus
$100/stitch, and they wanted it all RIGHT NOW!

The other option was the "make payments" route. It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I dunno.)

I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.



A couple things to consider:

1. Become a plumber.


Learn to love working in **** all day? Pass.


2: Stay out of those expensive places.


That's my first trip since my appendix at age 19, I think.


3: Don't take up chain saw juggling, you can't afford it. ;-)


Amen.


4: It will heal much faster than this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/materrell/8777739794/


Whassamatta wit you leggo, Mikey? Ouch. Kick the neighbor girl?

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On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:06:00 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:33 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 11:11:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:45:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 20 May 2013 03:11:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

Thanks! Ill have to double check my file pitches and if I dont have
one...will have to snag one somewhere. Im pretty sure I
dont....but...need to double check


Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

Sheesh! I plonked that buttbite years ago. bTMTeg

Good thread wander, BTW.


Too bad Usenet doesn't keep track of how many times someone is kill
filed on a group to determine if they are allowed to access that group.

Wouldn't that be nice?


Wandering-
Metal related banter: Well, I saw the inside of an ER yesterday (and
today.) A pristine (used) Chiwanese pruning saw blade decided to jump
the cut, careen off a hovering branch, and embed itself a foot away,
into the top of my left hand. I lucked out, though. The kitchen
faucet washed out all of the debris but I found that the skin was too
far open to butterfly properly and I bit the bullet and hit the
Immediate Care place. They wanted $192-298 just to walk in, plus
whatever a tetanus shot, irrigation kit, and suture kit cost, plus
$100/stitch, and they wanted it all RIGHT NOW!

The other option was the "make payments" route. It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I dunno.)

I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.



You paid to have that fixed???? Blink blink


If I didn't use my hands to make a living, I might have tried to
simply butterfly it, but the gap scared me. I saw tendons and the
synovial cap over my index finger joint as the saw was sliding off the
skin of my hand. It's no big deal on someone else, but it's scary when
you see your own insides. That generally indicates something is very
wrong, KWIM,V?

Been there..done that. My hands look like they have gone through a
grinder. I repair machinery in machine shops remember...sharp edges
and filed with razor sharp chips. The scars run up to my elbow. Its
rare that Im not bleeding somewhere..what with the blood thinners.

Shrug


I've successfully butterflied deep meat wounds, but nothing where the
skin was floating, such as the skin over my hand.


Practice makes perfect!



Must be nice to be rich.


Har! Hell, Gunner, you make more money than I do annually. I's a po
white chile.


Feeding 9 people are you?


Oddly enough, I still haven't been contacted by their financial staff.
It'll be a scary moment, but it'll work into a low monthly payment.

Well, until I become rich and famous with the Green Monster...


If I become rich..Idaho sounds like a nice place to live.


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Really?

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Sheriff Brody to a shark
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I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.



A couple things to consider:

1. Become a plumber.


Learn to love working in **** all day? Pass.


2: Stay out of those expensive places.


That's my first trip since my appendix at age 19, I think.


Count your blessings!!.

Nekked..I look like a patchwork doll with all the scar tissue.

Fortunately Im seldom nekked in the sun...so most of it blends in. Get
a tan going..and I look like a jigsaw puzzle.


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Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid® to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
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P.S: Skin is tougher than I thought. I saw him fight the brand new
sharp through he stuff. Oh, I don't have liquid lido, either. Only
the 4% cream used by tattooists.


Dad cut his hand open Christmas day, with his new pocket knife.
Shows the wound to Mom, she says "Show your Father" He says, "that's
serious, get your coat." (My grandparents were farm kids.)
Dad said it was because he ran a newspaper route in Worcester Mass
in the winter, his hand was tough enough that the Doc broke needle
sewing him up. I'll take him at his word.
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P.S: Skin is tougher than I thought. I saw him fight the brand new
sharp through he stuff. Oh, I don't have liquid lido, either. Only
the 4% cream used by tattooists.


Dad cut his hand open Christmas day, with his new pocket knife.
Shows the wound to Mom, she says "Show your Father" He says, "that's
serious, get your coat." (My grandparents were farm kids.)
Dad said it was because he ran a newspaper route in Worcester Mass
in the winter, his hand was tough enough that the Doc broke needle
sewing him up. I'll take him at his word.


It's bull****. But you would lap it up.

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"Michael A. Terrell" on Mon, 20 May 2013
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Tools, books, supplies ... I've a quarter ton of fire brick I've
schlepped from place to place - always intending to do something with
them "soon".


It would make a nice pit to burn expired trolls in.


I have, a swamp ...


I have a bigger swamp.


Maybe so, but it is my swamp. A little thing, not quite big enough
to qualify as a Wetland(tm,pat pend), and the low spot where all the
septic fields drain to. Bwahahahahahahahahahaaha! Ha!

It covers a big part of Florida. Tourist go
in, but they don't come out. The fools think they can feed & play with
real gators, and lose every time.



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Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

A couple things to consider:

1. Become a plumber.


Learn to love working in **** all day? Pass.



Not all plumbers play in the sewers. Some play with live steam that
can cut them in half, but they get huge paychecks.


2: Stay out of those expensive places.


That's my first trip since my appendix at age 19, I think.

3: Don't take up chain saw juggling, you can't afford it. ;-)


Amen.

4: It will heal much faster than this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/materrell/8777739794/


Whassamatta wit you leggo, Mikey? Ouch. Kick the neighbor girl?



You didn't read the description with the photo. That wound is over
five years old, and still not healed. It was caused by an incompetent VA
doctor. Both legs are covered with scar tissue, and the skin is so thin
that a bandaid will peel off what little there is left.
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:

I have, a swamp ...


I have a bigger swamp.


Maybe so, but it is my swamp. A little thing, not quite big enough
to qualify as a Wetland(tm,pat pend), and the low spot where all the
septic fields drain to. Bwahahahahahahahahahaaha! Ha!



You're sick. I like that in people, as long as they can control it.
;-)

Dollar Tree had some of those foam can holders yesterday that said,
"You say PSYCHO like there's something wrong with it"
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Larry Jaques on Tue, 21 May 2013
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P.S: Skin is tougher than I thought. I saw him fight the brand new
sharp through he stuff. Oh, I don't have liquid lido, either. Only
the 4% cream used by tattooists.


Dad cut his hand open Christmas day, with his new pocket knife.
Shows the wound to Mom, she says "Show your Father" He says, "that's
serious, get your coat." (My grandparents were farm kids.)
Dad said it was because he ran a newspaper route in Worcester Mass
in the winter, his hand was tough enough that the Doc broke needle
sewing him up. I'll take him at his word.


Yeah, I'm sure the palm of a working man's hand is much thicker and
tougher than the back. I'll have to remember to soak the wound for 20
minutes prior to stitching it up. Butterfly and dunk, as it were.

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if you don't yell going through the door.
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:07:06 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:06:00 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:33 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 11:11:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:45:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 20 May 2013 03:11:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

Thanks! Ill have to double check my file pitches and if I dont have
one...will have to snag one somewhere. Im pretty sure I
dont....but...need to double check


Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

Sheesh! I plonked that buttbite years ago. bTMTeg

Good thread wander, BTW.


Too bad Usenet doesn't keep track of how many times someone is kill
filed on a group to determine if they are allowed to access that group.

Wouldn't that be nice?


Wandering-
Metal related banter: Well, I saw the inside of an ER yesterday (and
today.) A pristine (used) Chiwanese pruning saw blade decided to jump
the cut, careen off a hovering branch, and embed itself a foot away,
into the top of my left hand. I lucked out, though. The kitchen
faucet washed out all of the debris but I found that the skin was too
far open to butterfly properly and I bit the bullet and hit the
Immediate Care place. They wanted $192-298 just to walk in, plus
whatever a tetanus shot, irrigation kit, and suture kit cost, plus
$100/stitch, and they wanted it all RIGHT NOW!

The other option was the "make payments" route. It was a 6+ hour
ordeal, but I came out with 5 shiny new stitches, a slightly used
stainless trauma kit, and an unknown cost. (I guess they send Guido
over to negotiate with us non-rich folks. I dunno.)

I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.


You paid to have that fixed???? Blink blink


If I didn't use my hands to make a living, I might have tried to
simply butterfly it, but the gap scared me. I saw tendons and the
synovial cap over my index finger joint as the saw was sliding off the
skin of my hand. It's no big deal on someone else, but it's scary when
you see your own insides. That generally indicates something is very
wrong, KWIM,V?

Been there..done that. My hands look like they have gone through a
grinder. I repair machinery in machine shops remember...sharp edges
and filed with razor sharp chips. The scars run up to my elbow. Its
rare that Im not bleeding somewhere..what with the blood thinners.

Shrug


I've successfully butterflied deep meat wounds, but nothing where the
skin was floating, such as the skin over my hand.


Practice makes perfect!



Must be nice to be rich.


Har! Hell, Gunner, you make more money than I do annually. I's a po
white chile.


Feeding 9 people are you?


No, I'm a bit smarter. g I hope at least some of you/them are
accepting foodstamps from the gov't. If not, go do it. Who do you
think you are, the gov't? Sheesh, taking in all those freeloaders...
REAL family takes on at least some of the load. You might mention it.

Feeding 9 people makes me remember Phoenix in 1972. I had rented a 4
bedroom section of a 12 room 1920s mansion on Adams. 3 families had
been living here, but when I moved in, I got 3 roommates. Anyway, the
lady with the family upstairs in back loved to cook and was receiving
the gov't "cheese" food boxes. The rest of us chipped in veggies and
meat, then she whipped up a lot of real nice home-cooked meals for us
with her butter, cheese, taters, and pastas. It worked out well for
all of us. Nowadays, a food stamp credit card covers a whole lot more
territory, practically anything edible, including really bad junk
food. If nothing else, you'd all eat like kings in your cramped
space.


Oddly enough, I still haven't been contacted by their financial staff.
It'll be a scary moment, but it'll work into a low monthly payment.

Well, until I become rich and famous with the Green Monster...


If I become rich..Idaho sounds like a nice place to live.


If it weren't so damned cold up there, I might agree and bump up and
over one state. But you've been down that frigid road, haven't you,
Ollie, livin' up north?

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On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:19:59 -0700, Larry Jaques
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I curse myself for not taking my chainsaw along or having gloves on.
Either would have precluded the accident. sigh
2 pics: http://tinyurl.com/kclmhy3 after initial cleanup and clotting
http://tinyurl.com/m5zzo27 the next morning, after the ER visit.


A couple things to consider:

1. Become a plumber.


Learn to love working in **** all day? Pass.


2: Stay out of those expensive places.


That's my first trip since my appendix at age 19, I think.


Count your blessings!!.


Oh, I most certainly do!


Nekked..I look like a patchwork doll with all the scar tissue.


My legs, hands, and arms do, too. And I have stitches over and
through both eyebrows from skydiving out of my crib as a wee lad.
I was the opposite of a cat. I landed on my head, every time.
(Yes, that could explain some things, couldn't it?)


Fortunately Im seldom nekked in the sun...so most of it blends in. Get
a tan going..and I look like a jigsaw puzzle.


But it gets the girls, right? "Oh, tell me about this one!" she
cries. "OK, afterward." you wisely reply.

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Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

A couple things to consider:

1. Become a plumber.


Learn to love working in **** all day? Pass.



Not all plumbers play in the sewers. Some play with live steam that
can cut them in half, but they get huge paychecks.


Which half gets the check?


2: Stay out of those expensive places.


That's my first trip since my appendix at age 19, I think.

3: Don't take up chain saw juggling, you can't afford it. ;-)


Amen.

4: It will heal much faster than this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/materrell/8777739794/


Whassamatta wit you leggo, Mikey? Ouch. Kick the neighbor girl?



You didn't read the description with the photo. That wound is over
five years old, and still not healed.


I did, but it wasn't nearly descriptive enough. It was a teaser
caption, not an in-depth description. Care to try again?


It was caused by an incompetent VA
doctor. Both legs are covered with scar tissue, and the skin is so thin
that a bandaid will peel off what little there is left.


Oy, vay! Condolences. Reason for skinny skin? I haven't heard that
being one of the downsides of diabetes. Is it?

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On Wed, 22 May 2013 05:19:45 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

A couple things to consider:

1. Become a plumber.

Learn to love working in **** all day? Pass.



Not all plumbers play in the sewers. Some play with live steam that
can cut them in half, but they get huge paychecks.


Which half gets the check?



Their heirs.


2: Stay out of those expensive places.

That's my first trip since my appendix at age 19, I think.

3: Don't take up chain saw juggling, you can't afford it. ;-)

Amen.

4: It will heal much faster than this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/materrell/8777739794/

Whassamatta wit you leggo, Mikey? Ouch. Kick the neighbor girl?



You didn't read the description with the photo. That wound is over
five years old, and still not healed.


I did, but it wasn't nearly descriptive enough. It was a teaser
caption, not an in-depth description. Care to try again?

It was caused by an incompetent VA
doctor. Both legs are covered with scar tissue, and the skin is so thin
that a bandaid will peel off what little there is left.


Oy, vay! Condolences. Reason for skinny skin? I haven't heard that
being one of the downsides of diabetes. Is it?



It's typical of scar tissue. The wound closes, but with less layers
of skin. That's why that area is red, compared to the surrounding
flesh. The first pressure sore appeared at the site of an old wound
that had become infected and scarred while healing.
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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 05:19:45 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

A couple things to consider:

1. Become a plumber.

Learn to love working in **** all day? Pass.


Not all plumbers play in the sewers. Some play with live steam that
can cut them in half, but they get huge paychecks.


Which half gets the check?



Their heirs.


2: Stay out of those expensive places.

That's my first trip since my appendix at age 19, I think.

3: Don't take up chain saw juggling, you can't afford it. ;-)

Amen.

4: It will heal much faster than this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/materrell/8777739794/

Whassamatta wit you leggo, Mikey? Ouch. Kick the neighbor girl?


You didn't read the description with the photo. That wound is over
five years old, and still not healed.


I did, but it wasn't nearly descriptive enough. It was a teaser
caption, not an in-depth description. Care to try again?

It was caused by an incompetent VA
doctor. Both legs are covered with scar tissue, and the skin is so thin
that a bandaid will peel off what little there is left.


Oy, vay! Condolences. Reason for skinny skin? I haven't heard that
being one of the downsides of diabetes. Is it?



It's typical of scar tissue.


War wound?


The wound closes, but with less layers
of skin. That's why that area is red, compared to the surrounding
flesh. The first pressure sore appeared at the site of an old wound


Pressure sore? I thought that was your shin.


that had become infected and scarred while healing.


Why did he let it get infected? Is that why you called him
incompetent?

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pyotr filipivich wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:

I have, a swamp ...

I have a bigger swamp.


Maybe so, but it is my swamp. A little thing, not quite big enough
to qualify as a Wetland(tm,pat pend), and the low spot where all the
septic fields drain to. Bwahahahahahahahahahaaha! Ha!



You're sick. I like that in people, as long as they can control it.
;-)

Dollar Tree had some of those foam can holders yesterday that said,
"You say PSYCHO like there's something wrong with it"


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Gunner Asch on Mon, 20 May 2013 13:16:29 -0700
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Make sure you do double check, since no one needs too many tools...

I'm certain that NObody _wants_ too many tools.
Some folks would be inclined to get rid of too many tools.

That's how I got a few of my expensive tools. I got a call, "Come
get this out of my way today, and it's free!"

My shop is filled with such tools. I purely couldnt afford 25% of all
that I have, if I had to pay cash for them.


I'm having to come up with an inventory of the tool bag for an
insurance claim. "Cost?" Um ... it just showed up one day.


Check MSC and Ebay and quote it retail. They dont ask what you paid
for it..but only what its replacement cost is.


I plan to do something like that. But "where did I get this" was
part and parcel of any task.
As was "Do I have the whatsit for this, and if so, when/where did
I get it?"
Sigh ... them days are gone.
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