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Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel
engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 00:45:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote:
Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I would not take that crap for free. i |
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Ignoramus10275 wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2006 00:45:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I would not take that crap for free. i Yeah? Finally you consider yourself qualified to offer an opinion? Noting your history of being a cheapskate in most matters, your opinion is more than likely as a result of some cheap purchase of something requiring overhaul. Jim *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 13:22:13 +1200, Jim wrote:
Ignoramus10275 wrote: Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Yeah? Finally you consider yourself qualified to offer an opinion? What the fark is that supposed to mean, "jim"? Noting your history of being a cheapskate in most matters, your opinion is more than likely as a result of some cheap purchase of something requiring overhaul. Overgeneralize much? All you semi-anonymous types do, of course. Dave "fully expecting the irony to go over his head, I am" Hinz |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I have had a Yanmar 3500 watt generator for about 20 years. Very cheap to run compared to gas, always starts, no maintenance required except for oil changes. But also very loud, especially at night, it's like a hammering sound as opposed to the hum of a gas generator. It's also a bear to lift in and out of my truck. |
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Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2006 13:22:13 +1200, Jim wrote: Ignoramus10275 wrote: Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Yeah? Finally you consider yourself qualified to offer an opinion? What the fark is that supposed to mean, "jim"? Noting your history of being a cheapskate in most matters, your opinion is more than likely as a result of some cheap purchase of something requiring overhaul. Overgeneralize much? All you semi-anonymous types do, of course. Dave "fully expecting the irony to go over his head, I am" Hinz Dave "I can't help being a over-opinionated ****wit" Hinz once again pokes his petty little oar in, ignoring the fact that the poster "Ignoramus10275" has a proven history that backs the use of his soubriquet. To disparage all and sundry single cylinder diesels because of his singular experience is akin to opinions posted by Dave "I've got a **** encased liver" Hinz. Jim *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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In article , Ignoramus10275
wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 00:45:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I would not take that crap for free. Well, the one you had, maybe. But I've got a Yanmar 3HP air cooled diesel with 2:1 F-N-R marine g/box on it and it's a gem. Don't write off all small diesel engines simply because you had ONE bad one. PDW |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 05:40:45 +0100, Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Ignoramus10275 wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 00:45:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I would not take that crap for free. Well, the one you had, maybe. But I've got a Yanmar 3HP air cooled diesel with 2:1 F-N-R marine g/box on it and it's a gem. Don't write off all small diesel engines simply because you had ONE bad one. I do not know much about Yanmars, I was referring to Lombardini. i |
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In article , Jim wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 13:22:13 +1200, Jim wrote: Ignoramus10275 wrote: Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Yeah? Finally you consider yourself qualified to offer an opinion? What the fark is that supposed to mean, "jim"? Noting your history of being a cheapskate in most matters, your opinion is more than likely as a result of some cheap purchase of something requiring overhaul. Overgeneralize much? All you semi-anonymous types do, of course. Dave "fully expecting the irony to go over his head, I am" Hinz Dave "I can't help being a over-opinionated ****wit" Hinz once again pokes his petty little oar in, ignoring the fact that the poster "Ignoramus10275" has a proven history that backs the use of his soubriquet. To disparage all and sundry single cylinder diesels because of his singular experience is akin to opinions posted by Dave "I've got a **** encased liver" Hinz. Jim *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** This thread could use a round of beers. -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net |
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ATP* wrote:
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I have had a Yanmar 3500 watt generator for about 20 years. Very cheap to run compared to gas, always starts, no maintenance required except for oil changes. But also very loud, especially at night, it's like a hammering sound as opposed to the hum of a gas generator. It's also a bear to lift in and out of my truck. I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. I see that lots of these tiny diesels are pull start. Do the need electricity at all for the glo plug, or how does that work? |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I have had a Yanmar 3500 watt generator for about 20 years. Very cheap to run compared to gas, always starts, no maintenance required except for oil changes. But also very loud, especially at night, it's like a hammering sound as opposed to the hum of a gas generator. It's also a bear to lift in and out of my truck. I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. I see that lots of these tiny diesels are pull start. Do the need electricity at all for the glo plug, or how does that work? Mine has electric start and pull start, plus a compression release. No glo plug and it hasn't been necessary so far, at least here on Long Island. |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:04:23 +1200, Jim wrote:
snip load of crap Jim *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Who is this guy? Never mind... plonk. |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I used to maintain one-lung-er Onans on boats in 'Nam. (generator duty). They were _always_ broken. My experience with flat-pack 'wide-vee' fours from Onan in RV gensets is about the same. LLoyd |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:04:23 +1200, Jim wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote: Yeah? Finally you consider yourself qualified to offer an opinion? What the fark is that supposed to mean, "jim"? Noting your history of being a cheapskate in most matters, your opinion is more than likely as a result of some cheap purchase of something requiring overhaul. Overgeneralize much? All you semi-anonymous types do, of course. Dave "I can't help being a over-opinionated ****wit" Hinz once again pokes his petty little oar in, ignoring the fact that the poster "Ignoramus10275" has a proven history that backs the use of his soubriquet. To disparage all and sundry single cylinder diesels because of his singular experience is akin to opinions posted by Dave "I've got a **** encased liver" Hinz. Yawn. Seemed to me he was talking about a specific one. Maybe you could clean the froth off your monitor and reread his post. |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 03:27:51 GMT, Ignoramus10275 wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2006 03:11:11 GMT, Ignoramus10275 wrote: No, it was a "like new" generator. (the muffler looked almost new) I bought it from the military, who, as I realized, wrote it off because it was junk. It worked -- but would not start in cold weather and was loud. and I have pictures to prove its condition... Pearls before swine, Igor. Don't waste your time on it. |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 05:40:45 +0100, Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Ignoramus10275 wrote: Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Well, the one you had, maybe. But I've got a Yanmar 3HP air cooled diesel with 2:1 F-N-R marine g/box on it and it's a gem. Don't write off all small diesel engines simply because you had ONE bad one. He isn't. He says, clearly, right up there about 10 lines, that he's talking about a specific manufacturer, he's not writing off "all small diesel engines". |
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On 18 May 2006 14:06:28 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2006 05:40:45 +0100, Peter Wiley wrote: In article , Ignoramus10275 wrote: Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Well, the one you had, maybe. But I've got a Yanmar 3HP air cooled diesel with 2:1 F-N-R marine g/box on it and it's a gem. Don't write off all small diesel engines simply because you had ONE bad one. He isn't. He says, clearly, right up there about 10 lines, that he's talking about a specific manufacturer, he's not writing off "all small diesel engines". Thank you Dave. i |
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Pete Keillor wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:04:23 +1200, Jim wrote: snip load of crap Jim *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Who is this guy? Never mind... plonk. Ditto the 'plonk'. Is this the same 'Jim' who posts as ? I will put both addresses in anyway. -- Fred R "It doesn't really take all kinds; there just *are* all kinds". Drop TROU to email. |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 13:22:13 +1200, Jim wrote:
Ignoramus10275 wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 00:45:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK. I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator. Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I would not take that crap for free. i Yeah? Finally you consider yourself qualified to offer an opinion? Noting your history of being a cheapskate in most matters, your opinion is more than likely as a result of some cheap purchase of something requiring overhaul. Jim *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Hey, Jim, cut that out. Picking on Ig is my job! |
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Fred R wrote:
Pete Keillor wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:04:23 +1200, Jim wrote: snip load of crap Jim *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Who is this guy? Never mind... plonk. Ditto the 'plonk'. Is this the same 'Jim' who posts as ? I will put both addresses in anyway. I very much doubt it. What Jim Pentagrid posts is usually sound, useful stuff. Chris |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 03:11:11 GMT, Ignoramus10275
wrote: No, it was a "like new" generator. (the muffler looked almost new) I bought it from the military, who, as I realized, wrote it off because it was junk. It worked -- but would not start in cold weather and was loud. i I have one, a 6.7hp I believe. I haven't tried to get it running yet. It came with an air compressor. The muffler is ceramic coated, so will look new forever. --Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy-- |
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ATP* wrote:
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I have had a Yanmar 3500 watt generator for about 20 years. Very cheap to run compared to gas, always starts, no maintenance required except for oil changes. But also very loud, especially at night, it's like a hammering sound as opposed to the hum of a gas generator. It's also a bear to lift in and out of my truck. I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. I see that lots of these tiny diesels are pull start. Do the need electricity at all for the glo plug, or how does that work? Mine has electric start and pull start, plus a compression release. No glo plug and it hasn't been necessary so far, at least here on Long Island. I just stopped wasting time and ordered a honda gas engine instead. Somebody was willing to take my money when I called up a farm supply place. |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 07:43:03 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. Maybe it's you- I work at a ag distributor and get pestered about the small diesels our equipment uses. I just don't have the time to do the customers homework- dimensions, power, fuel consumption, only to have them hang up when they find out how much the engine costs. I can't engage in a dead-end phone call for 15 minutes when guys with money are standing at the counter. If you want to be taken seriously, get off your ass and leave the phone on the hook. Go to the engine dealer with a clear idea of what you need and understand it'll cost a lot more than a Harbor Freight Briggs reject. -Carl |
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Carl Byrns wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2006 07:43:03 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. Maybe it's you- I work at a ag distributor and get pestered about the small diesels our equipment uses. I just don't have the time to do the customers homework- dimensions, power, fuel consumption, only to have them hang up when they find out how much the engine costs. I can't engage in a dead-end phone call for 15 minutes when guys with money Wrong. When somebody calls up asking for a quote and has an exact part number down to the shaft style, you're just stupid to not try to come up with a price. There's something inherently worthless about lots of sales people in many industries. are standing at the counter. If you want to be taken seriously, get off your ass and leave the phone on the hook. Go to the engine dealer with a clear idea of what There's no need for me to travel 100 miles (yes, the nearest Yanmar dealer to Chicago is in Wisconsin) just to meet lazy worthless sales people in person. you need and understand it'll cost a lot more than a Harbor Freight Briggs reject. That's an even better reason to get me my quote. I didn't call these places to find out about used engines from a bargain bin that's under $50 and has a 5 year warranty. |
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In article , Cydrome Leader
wrote: ATP* wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I have had a Yanmar 3500 watt generator for about 20 years. Very cheap to run compared to gas, always starts, no maintenance required except for oil changes. But also very loud, especially at night, it's like a hammering sound as opposed to the hum of a gas generator. It's also a bear to lift in and out of my truck. I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. I see that lots of these tiny diesels are pull start. Do the need electricity at all for the glo plug, or how does that work? My Yanmar has electric start but it doesn't need it. No glow plug. Look, diesels are heavier, noisier, run compression ratios 2X a gas motor and so can be difficult to start manually unless designed for it - usually with a big flywheel and a compression release. For continuous duty, they're far superior. For light intermittent duty, get a gas engine. I have 12 gensets at work. 10 of them are Hondas, the other 2 are Kubotas. PDW |
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Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Cydrome Leader wrote: ATP* wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Does anybody have any opinions/stories of 4-6 HP 1 cylinder diesel engines, like the Yanmar L70 or anything from Lombardini? Compared to gas engines, they look like they might cost 2-3 times more, and weight at least twice as much. I have had a Yanmar 3500 watt generator for about 20 years. Very cheap to run compared to gas, always starts, no maintenance required except for oil changes. But also very loud, especially at night, it's like a hammering sound as opposed to the hum of a gas generator. It's also a bear to lift in and out of my truck. I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. I see that lots of these tiny diesels are pull start. Do the need electricity at all for the glo plug, or how does that work? My Yanmar has electric start but it doesn't need it. No glow plug. Look, diesels are heavier, noisier, run compression ratios 2X a gas motor and so can be difficult to start manually unless designed for it - usually with a big flywheel and a compression release. For continuous duty, they're far superior. For light intermittent duty, get a gas engine. I have 12 gensets at work. 10 of them are Hondas, the other 2 I found it interesting everybody makes diesel engines, you just won't find them in the US or in their US site. Honda seems to have a line called GD or something like that that looks like the GX gas series. I only see them on the uk and canadian sites. Why is diesel so unpopular here in the US compared to the rest of the world? are Kubotas. PDW |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 01:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote:
I found it interesting everybody makes diesel engines, you just won't find them in the US or in their US site. Honda seems to have a line called GD or something like that that looks like the GX gas series. I only see them on the uk and canadian sites. Why is diesel so unpopular here in the US compared to the rest of the world? Because the USA'n automakers, in the 1970s, released some real crap products with diesel engines. Some, believe it or not, were gasoline engines with minor changes, instead of actual designed diesel engines. The reputation was made of dirty, smelly, and unreliable because of, especially, GM's brain-deaded decisions. I'm seeing a lot more diesels on the road these days, but I _still_ can't buy a diesel-electric hybrid. If I could, I'd seriously consider going into debt to do so. I drive 70 miles a day to get to and from work, and at 3 bucks a gallon (yeah, I know...) it adds up. My ancient Saab gets 24-26 MPG, but still... |
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Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:04:23 +1200, Jim wrote: Dave Hinz wrote: Yeah? Finally you consider yourself qualified to offer an opinion? What the fark is that supposed to mean, "jim"? Noting your history of being a cheapskate in most matters, your opinion is more than likely as a result of some cheap purchase of something requiring overhaul. Overgeneralize much? All you semi-anonymous types do, of course. Dave "I can't help being a over-opinionated ****wit" Hinz once again pokes his petty little oar in, ignoring the fact that the poster "Ignoramus10275" has a proven history that backs the use of his soubriquet. To disparage all and sundry single cylinder diesels because of his singular experience is akin to opinions posted by Dave "I've got a **** encased liver" Hinz. Yawn. Seemed to me he was talking about a specific one. Maybe you could clean the froth off your monitor and reread his post. Well, well, Dave "I've got ADD" Hinz still burbles on. Ignoramus10275 wrote: "Yeah, small diesels from Lombardini SUCK.I had one on a generator, what a ****ing POS. Impossible to start in cold weather and prohibitively loud. I am so happy to have gotten rid of that turd of a generator." Is that an over-generalization or what? The man buys a used genset for cents on the dollar and expects perfection. Rube comes to mind. Still, rationality is not something I expect from you, your past precedes you. Jim *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Question for those outside the USA: How is diesel priced compared to the various grades of gasolines? Until last year, when diesel prices skyrocketed into the same league as gas, it was about half the price. Now it's higher than regular gas. I filled up yesterday ( 1990 VW Jetta diesel ) Gas (regular) was at $1.003/liter, diesel was 89.9 cents. The price of gas tends to fluctuate rapidly, diesel not as fast, asnd diesel lags a fair bit behind gas price changes. A couple months back gas spiked up, the diesel price followed about a week after. When the price of gas dropped way back down, it took a few weeks for the diesel to drop back below gas. I'm in northeast Alberta. At least it's the northeast of the part with people in it. Oilpatch area, probably a heavier usage of diesel per capita than most areas, but diesel cars are really common. Cheers Trevor Jones |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 14:52:17 +1200, Jim wrote:
Well, well, Hm. This one needs a second flush, it seems. Buh-bye Jim. Find someone else to dance for you; you're just not interesting. |
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Hello, Larry!
You wrote on Fri, 19 May 2006 05:22:24 -0700: LJ Question for those outside the USA: How is diesel priced compared to LJ the various grades of gasolines? Until last year, when diesel prices LJ skyrocketed into the same league as gas, it was about half the price. LJ Now it's higher than regular gas. I drive the latest 320d BMW and when you get 1100km on a 65 liter tank @ 140kmh, the price of diesel is half that of petrol. Here in South Africa they cost the same apprx. $1 / liter. The petrol BMW will do say 600 - 700 km on 65 liters at 140kmh. So - diesel is king especially with super sophisticated BMW, Mercedes, Audi and VW engines. With 300 Nm torque from a 2 liter motor, even American V8's are eaten for breakfast - I know, I have a 350 Chevy powered Cobra as well. Wish that was diesel!!!! With best regards, mweb. E-mail: |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 05:22:24 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: Question for those outside the USA: How is diesel priced compared to the various grades of gasolines? Until last year, when diesel prices skyrocketed into the same league as gas, it was about half the price. Now it's higher than regular gas. Here in the UK Petrol is just reaching £1/litre and Diesel is around £1.05/litre. IIRC that works out at:- Petrol $6.83/US Gal Diesel $7.17/US Gal The economy of turbocharged diesels and small petrol engines is a significant factor :-( Mark Rand RTFM |
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Dave Hinz wrote:
On Fri, 19 May 2006 14:52:17 +1200, Jim wrote: Well, well, Hm. This one needs a second flush, it seems. Buh-bye Jim. Find someone else to dance for you; you're just not interesting. Yawn. Dave, the classic case of a copout poster, all mouth and no substance. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 19:01:55 GMT, Ignoramus1473
wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 13:31:15 -0500, Andy Asberry wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 03:11:11 GMT, Ignoramus10275 wrote: No, it was a "like new" generator. (the muffler looked almost new) I bought it from the military, who, as I realized, wrote it off because it was junk. It worked -- but would not start in cold weather and was loud. i I have one, a 6.7hp I believe. I haven't tried to get it running yet. It came with an air compressor. The muffler is ceramic coated, so will look new forever. There was even very little soot on it. The whole generator was very shiny and new looking. Is your engine manual start or electric start? Mine was very difficult to start. i Manual. --Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy-- |
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You tell em Jim woohooo!
"Jim" wrote in message ... Dave Hinz wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 14:52:17 +1200, Jim wrote: Well, well, Hm. This one needs a second flush, it seems. Buh-bye Jim. Find someone else to dance for you; you're just not interesting. Yawn. Dave, the classic case of a copout poster, all mouth and no substance. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 21:26:30 -0400, Tony wrote:
You tell em Jim woohooo! Yeah, he really told me. Confuses "Wow, you won" with "wow, what a waste of bits that one is." Funny how they just never get it. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 19 May 2006 01:44:48 +0000 (UTC), with neither quill nor qualm, Cydrome Leader quickly quoth: I found it interesting everybody makes diesel engines, you just won't find them in the US or in their US site. Honda seems to have a line called GD or something like that that looks like the GX gas series. I only see them on the uk and canadian sites. Why is diesel so unpopular here in the US compared to the rest of the world? BEs rule here. Brainless Environmentalists. They look at particulate smoke being sent out of a poorly maintained diesel truck exhaust stack and think it's somehow 1,000 times worse than the low-rider belching oil smoke, CO, NOx, RAP and 9mm lead slugs. Only US made ones. It was pointed out to me you don't see black clouds coming from foreign made diesel trucks. It seems to hold true. Question for those outside the USA: How is diesel priced compared to the various grades of gasolines? Until last year, when diesel prices skyrocketed into the same league as gas, it was about half the price. Now it's higher than regular gas. -------------------------------------------------------- Murphy was an Optimist ---------------------------- http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development |
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Cydrome Leader wrote:
Carl Byrns wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 07:43:03 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. Maybe it's you- I work at a ag distributor and get pestered about the small diesels our equipment uses. I just don't have the time to do the customers homework- dimensions, power, fuel consumption, only to have them hang up when they find out how much the engine costs. I can't engage in a dead-end phone call for 15 minutes when guys with money Wrong. When somebody calls up asking for a quote and has an exact part number down to the shaft style, you're just stupid to not try to come up with a price. There's something inherently worthless about lots of sales people in many industries. are standing at the counter. If you want to be taken seriously, get off your ass and leave the phone on the hook. Go to the engine dealer with a clear idea of what I just had a great experience with this place http://www.helmuthrepair.com/ for a gas honda engine. I had it delived in less than 24 hours after calling in the order. So, at least some people still understand how business works. |
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On Sat, 20 May 2006 07:56:42 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 01:44:48 +0000 (UTC), with neither quill nor qualm, Cydrome Leader quickly quoth: I found it interesting everybody makes diesel engines, you just won't find them in the US or in their US site. Honda seems to have a line called GD or something like that that looks like the GX gas series. I only see them on the uk and canadian sites. Why is diesel so unpopular here in the US compared to the rest of the world? BEs rule here. Brainless Environmentalists. They look at particulate smoke being sent out of a poorly maintained diesel truck exhaust stack and think it's somehow 1,000 times worse than the low-rider belching oil smoke, CO, NOx, RAP and 9mm lead slugs. Only US made ones. It was pointed out to me you don't see black clouds coming from foreign made diesel trucks. It seems to hold true. Mabee today, but I've seen enough smoky M.A.N,Leyland, Dubkrava, Mercedes, Peugot and Duetz (as well as a polethora of other makes in both east and west africa) diesel exhausts that were extremely black and foul. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 23:19:16 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Carl Byrns wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 07:43:03 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: I've been bugging the local tiny diesel engine dealers in the area, and the stupid ****ers never call back, or answer the phone. I don't get why it's so hard to try to buy stuff from non-internet based companies. Again, maybe it's you- the guy who calls me with a good idea of what he wants, when he wants it, and understands the cost gets my undivided attention. He's either a pro or has gone out of his way to educate himself. I never hang up on someone who isn't on top of the game, however, I won't sell him something over the phone and will ask him- politely- to stop in so I can define what he's after. If he chooses not to, no great loss. He can be a PIA to my competition. -Carl |
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