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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
In article , Reyd Dorakeen
wrote: The solution is to prevent the people from ever driving on his yard in the first place. I like the big boulders on your side of the property line idea. Big pine trees may work as well. plant some expensive slow growing trees and charge for damages maybe try poison ivy hoping they get the irritating oil on the doors? Planting poison ivy for any reason outside of building a habitat for an exhibit in a museum/zoo/similar would be a criminal offense in and of itself in *MANY* parts of the US. It would probably be prosecuted under the heading of "planting/propogating/distributing noxious vegetation", or similar verbiage. Most (if not all) states specifically forbid this sort of "bio-warfare". Poison ivy is fine, if it "just grows wild" - But deliberately plant or otherwise encourage it, and you're likely to find yourself up on charges. -- Don Bruder - - New Email policy in effect as of Feb. 21, 2004. I respond to Email as quick as humanly possible. If you Email me and get no response, see http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/main/contact.html Short form: I'm trashing EVERYTHING that doesn't contain a password in the subject. |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:30:40 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote: Spike....Spike? Hello? What are you talking about? Your story might have been compelling, but it is impossible to follow with the "plaintiff of the first part" bull**** without ever having properly introducing the characters. -Bob A guy (call him Bob) only had brake lights on one side. He stopped for a dude on a bicycle. This ****ed off another driver (call him Paul). An argument ensued. The guy with the bad brake lights (Bob) went home. The ****ed off driver (Paul) followed Bob home, and when Bob parked in his driveway, Paul intentionally slammed his car into the back of Bobs. Not only did Paul smash up both cars, but he also crushed between them a 2 yr old toddler who was rushing to see his granddaddy Bob. At this point, Bobs family, (Sue, Frank, Melvin, Harvey, Mary Anne and Peter) drug Paul out of his vehicle, and using cricket bats, blunt objects, hands, feet, teeth and a woomera, beat Paul to within an inch of his life. Paul is currently in intensive care, where hopefully he will die in screaming agony after a considerable amount of time has passed. The butchered child remains a bloody smear on the driveway until a putty knife can be found. The family will not be charged. Road rage sucks and is possible even in Oz. Got it? Gunner "Gun Control, the theory that a 110lb grandmother should fist fight a 250lb 19yr old criminal" |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:30:40 -0600, zxcvbob wrote: Spike....Spike? Hello? What are you talking about? Your story might have been compelling, but it is impossible to follow with the "plaintiff of the first part" bull**** without ever having properly introducing the characters. -Bob A guy (call him Bob) only had brake lights on one side. He stopped for a dude on a bicycle. This ****ed off another driver (call him Paul). An argument ensued. The guy with the bad brake lights (Bob) went home. The ****ed off driver (Paul) followed Bob home, and when Bob parked in his driveway, Paul intentionally slammed his car into the back of Bobs. Not only did Paul smash up both cars, but he also crushed between them a 2 yr old toddler who was rushing to see his granddaddy Bob. At this point, Bobs family, (Sue, Frank, Melvin, Harvey, Mary Anne and Peter) drug Paul out of his vehicle, and using cricket bats, blunt objects, hands, feet, teeth and a woomera, beat Paul to within an inch of his life. Paul is currently in intensive care, where hopefully he will die in screaming agony after a considerable amount of time has passed. The butchered child remains a bloody smear on the driveway until a putty knife can be found. The family will not be charged. Road rage sucks and is possible even in Oz. Got it? Gunner "Gun Control, the theory that a 110lb grandmother should fist fight a 250lb 19yr old criminal" Thanks. I couldn't tell from the original story who ran into whom. -Bob |
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:09:15 GMT, Gunner
wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:30:40 -0600, zxcvbob wrote: Spike....Spike? Hello? What are you talking about? Your story might have been compelling, but it is impossible to follow with the "plaintiff of the first part" bull**** without ever having properly introducing the characters. -Bob A guy (call him Bob) only had brake lights on one side. He stopped for a dude on a bicycle. This ****ed off another driver (call him Paul). An argument ensued. The guy with the bad brake lights (Bob) went home. The ****ed off driver (Paul) followed Bob home, and when Bob parked in his driveway, Paul intentionally slammed his car into the back of Bobs. Not only did Paul smash up both cars, but he also crushed between them a 2 yr old toddler who was rushing to see his granddaddy Bob. At this point, Bobs family, (Sue, Frank, Melvin, Harvey, Mary Anne and Peter) drug Paul out of his vehicle, and using cricket bats, blunt objects, hands, feet, teeth and a woomera, beat Paul to within an inch of his life. Paul is currently in intensive care, where hopefully he will die in screaming agony after a considerable amount of time has passed. The butchered child remains a bloody smear on the driveway until a putty knife can be found. The family will not be charged. Road rage sucks and is possible even in Oz. Got it? All I know is, if I was "Paul" and I survived the beating and got out of the hospital, I would be pleading with a judge to lock me up for a long time and throw away the keys for my own protection, unless I had the money to move far away and totally disappear. Because "Bob" or his family members, based on their initial reaction to "Paul's" action are not likely to soon forget, or forgive. "Paul's" head would have a bounty on it - and you simply can't put a price tag on the 2-year-old innocent life he took... -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
In article , Gunner says...
Paul is currently in intensive care, Well there's your mistake right there. Somebody goofed up. Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
Thank you for the clarification to the other person:
Also, I am in 100% agreement with yoy. ****, I'd let the toddler's family in for another 5 minute un refereed round! Refinish King PS What I said in my first post in this thread, the OP has to protect his family. Make the ditch deep enough to stop and slide the car almost onto it's side. A DUI, a big repair and legal bill. Will set an example, and other's will know to slow down at that curve. Get the media involved. There is power in the media. Don't be the 140 pound grandmother, fighting off the 250 6 foot crackhead without a pistol! "Gunner" wrote in message news On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:30:40 -0600, zxcvbob wrote: Spike....Spike? Hello? What are you talking about? Your story might have been compelling, but it is impossible to follow with the "plaintiff of the first part" bull**** without ever having properly introducing the characters. -Bob A guy (call him Bob) only had brake lights on one side. He stopped for a dude on a bicycle. This ****ed off another driver (call him Paul). An argument ensued. The guy with the bad brake lights (Bob) went home. The ****ed off driver (Paul) followed Bob home, and when Bob parked in his driveway, Paul intentionally slammed his car into the back of Bobs. Not only did Paul smash up both cars, but he also crushed between them a 2 yr old toddler who was rushing to see his granddaddy Bob. At this point, Bobs family, (Sue, Frank, Melvin, Harvey, Mary Anne and Peter) drug Paul out of his vehicle, and using cricket bats, blunt objects, hands, feet, teeth and a woomera, beat Paul to within an inch of his life. Paul is currently in intensive care, where hopefully he will die in screaming agony after a considerable amount of time has passed. The butchered child remains a bloody smear on the driveway until a putty knife can be found. The family will not be charged. Road rage sucks and is possible even in Oz. Got it? Gunner "Gun Control, the theory that a 110lb grandmother should fist fight a 250lb 19yr old criminal" |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
Amen!
Also, with decent people like me. Sick of innocent people getting killed in the crossfire of other's stupidity, whether it's drunk driving, road rage, crack deals gone bad or killing a woman who refuses to give up her purse. The bounty might be real cheap! Refinish King "Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:09:15 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:30:40 -0600, zxcvbob wrote: Spike....Spike? Hello? What are you talking about? Your story might have been compelling, but it is impossible to follow with the "plaintiff of the first part" bull**** without ever having properly introducing the characters. -Bob A guy (call him Bob) only had brake lights on one side. He stopped for a dude on a bicycle. This ****ed off another driver (call him Paul). An argument ensued. The guy with the bad brake lights (Bob) went home. The ****ed off driver (Paul) followed Bob home, and when Bob parked in his driveway, Paul intentionally slammed his car into the back of Bobs. Not only did Paul smash up both cars, but he also crushed between them a 2 yr old toddler who was rushing to see his granddaddy Bob. At this point, Bobs family, (Sue, Frank, Melvin, Harvey, Mary Anne and Peter) drug Paul out of his vehicle, and using cricket bats, blunt objects, hands, feet, teeth and a woomera, beat Paul to within an inch of his life. Paul is currently in intensive care, where hopefully he will die in screaming agony after a considerable amount of time has passed. The butchered child remains a bloody smear on the driveway until a putty knife can be found. The family will not be charged. Road rage sucks and is possible even in Oz. Got it? All I know is, if I was "Paul" and I survived the beating and got out of the hospital, I would be pleading with a judge to lock me up for a long time and throw away the keys for my own protection, unless I had the money to move far away and totally disappear. Because "Bob" or his family members, based on their initial reaction to "Paul's" action are not likely to soon forget, or forgive. "Paul's" head would have a bounty on it - and you simply can't put a price tag on the 2-year-old innocent life he took... -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
Maybe the police got there too soon?
Refinish King PS Even justice minded police have to do their job, the police who investigated the attempted rape of my daughter said they'd look the other way as long as they didn't hear any screaming. "jim rozen" wrote in message ... In article , Gunner says... Paul is currently in intensive care, Well there's your mistake right there. Somebody goofed up. Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:11:53 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:09:15 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:30:40 -0600, zxcvbob wrote: Spike....Spike? Hello? What are you talking about? Your story might have been compelling, but it is impossible to follow with the "plaintiff of the first part" bull**** without ever having properly introducing the characters. -Bob A guy (call him Bob) only had brake lights on one side. He stopped for a dude on a bicycle. This ****ed off another driver (call him Paul). An argument ensued. The guy with the bad brake lights (Bob) went home. The ****ed off driver (Paul) followed Bob home, and when Bob parked in his driveway, Paul intentionally slammed his car into the back of Bobs. Not only did Paul smash up both cars, but he also crushed between them a 2 yr old toddler who was rushing to see his granddaddy Bob. At this point, Bobs family, (Sue, Frank, Melvin, Harvey, Mary Anne and Peter) drug Paul out of his vehicle, and using cricket bats, blunt objects, hands, feet, teeth and a woomera, beat Paul to within an inch of his life. Paul is currently in intensive care, where hopefully he will die in screaming agony after a considerable amount of time has passed. The butchered child remains a bloody smear on the driveway until a putty knife can be found. The family will not be charged. Road rage sucks and is possible even in Oz. Got it? All I know is, if I was "Paul" and I survived the beating and got out of the hospital, I would be pleading with a judge to lock me up for a long time and throw away the keys for my own protection, unless I had the money to move far away and totally disappear. Because "Bob" or his family members, based on their initial reaction to "Paul's" action are not likely to soon forget, or forgive. "Paul's" head would have a bounty on it - and you simply can't put a price tag on the 2-year-old innocent life he took... -- Bruce -- I wonder if there is an official name for a homicide involving being slowly impaled on a didgeridoo in a remote and unvisited corner of NSW? Gunner "Gun Control, the theory that a 110lb grandmother should fist fight a 250lb 19yr old criminal" |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:50:36 -0500, "Refinish King"
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Thank you for the clarification to the other person: I didn't think it was that bad in the first place. Gunner seemed to have no trouble. What I said in my first post in this thread, the OP has to protect his family. Make the ditch deep enough to stop and slide the car almost onto it's side. A DUI, a big repair and legal bill. Will set an example, and other's will know to slow down at that curve. Part of my reason for posting the previous garblement was to point out that if anyone living in a house takes obvious action to damage or disable a vehicle that runs off the road, even into their yard, they are liable to be on the receiving of some very nasty, dangerous behaviour. Best let the authorities take care, and make it plain it's not you. ************************************************** ** sorry ..........no I'm not! remove ns from my header address to reply via email Spike....Spike? Hello? |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
Brian Henderson scribed in
: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:40:21 -0800, Halvey wrote: Can we get a picture of this? Or an address? I'd love to see why this curve is so...alluring? Mine isn't the curve, that was whoever started this thread. I just have a 2-way stop sign on a busy street and nobody looks before just rolling through the stop. the way to fix that is to have the city build a 'speed hump' on the stop line the ones we have here work well. it is a concrete plateau about 10 inches up from the tar, 45 degree entrance slop eeach end, the plateau is about 4 or 5 feet wide. if you hit it at 'roll through' speed you break some part of your car. swarf, steam and wind -- David Forsyth -:- the email address is real /"\ http://terrapin.ru.ac.za/~iwdf/welcome.html \ / ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML E-Mail - - - - - - - X If you receive email saying "Send this to everyone you know," / \ PLEASE pretend you don't know me. |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
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DejaVU wrote: Brian Henderson scribed in : On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:40:21 -0800, Halvey wrote: Can we get a picture of this? Or an address? I'd love to see why this curve is so...alluring? Mine isn't the curve, that was whoever started this thread. I just have a 2-way stop sign on a busy street and nobody looks before just rolling through the stop. the way to fix that is to have the city build a 'speed hump' on the stop line the ones we have here work well. it is a concrete plateau about 10 inches up from the tar, 45 degree entrance slop eeach end, the plateau is about 4 or 5 feet wide. if you hit it at 'roll through' speed you break some part of your car. ****... at 10 inches tall and 4-5 feet wide, it'd break parts of my car if I got out and pushed, let alone hit it at "roll through" speed. And that's with my car being absolutely stock in every detail - no lowering, no low-profile tires, no anything that's different in any way from what came on it when it left the factory. First thing to give would probably be the front clip, since a 10 inch hump with a 45 degree approach would be about 5 inches higher than the ground clearance of the air-dam, and the front tires would still be close to a foot away from even starting to touch the "ramp". Things would go smooth once the front tires actually climbed the hill, but as soon as they started down the other side - scrape/crunch, and the car would come to a stop with all four tires hanging in the air, and the body resting solidly on the "hump". That would be true for most vehicles I'm familiar with other than trucks/sport-utilities with lots of ground clearance. No, friend, I think you're either "inventing" the hump, or have no grasp of what distance 10 inches actually is. (Local trailer park I occasionally have to deliver to has speed bumps that are between 6 and 8 inches high, depending on exactly which one you choose to measure. I won't drive in that park anymore, since crossing those oversized speed bumps *AT ANY SPEED* I've attempted, from "get out and push" to "stomp the gas and hope for the best" grinds the entire undercarriage.) -- Don Bruder - - New Email policy in effect as of Feb. 21, 2004. I respond to Email as quick as humanly possible. If you Email me and get no response, see http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/main/contact.html Short form: I'm trashing EVERYTHING that doesn't contain a password in the subject. |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
Old Nick wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:50:36 -0500, "Refinish King" vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Thank you for the clarification to the other person: I didn't think it was that bad in the first place. Gunner seemed to have no trouble. What I said in my first post in this thread, the OP has to protect his family. Make the ditch deep enough to stop and slide the car almost onto it's side. A DUI, a big repair and legal bill. Will set an example, and other's will know to slow down at that curve. Part of my reason for posting the previous garblement was to point out that if anyone living in a house takes obvious action to damage or disable a vehicle that runs off the road, even into their yard, they are liable to be on the receiving of some very nasty, dangerous behaviour. Best let the authorities take care, and make it plain it's not you. ************************************************** ** sorry .........no I'm not! remove ns from my header address to reply via email Spike....Spike? Hello? My favorite suggestion so far has been to park an old car with a "for sale" sign on it just inside the property line where most of the accidents occur. It's not at all obvious that it is being used as a barrier, and when someone crashes into it, you can collect from their insurance. -Bob |
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On 8 Mar 2004 09:46:05 GMT, DejaVU
wrote: the way to fix that is to have the city build a 'speed hump' on the stop line the ones we have here work well. it is a concrete plateau about 10 inches up from the tar, 45 degree entrance slop eeach end, the plateau is about 4 or 5 feet wide. I wish they'd do something. Actually, they need to put in either a 4-way stop sign or a light at the intersection. People speed through there at 50-60 all the time, it's no wonder people are getting hit as badly as they are. |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
Keep a video or movie camera handy and document the crashes. The
insurance company for a injured plaintiff will pay you for your movies and testimony. Think of it as a part time job. Ed Patterson On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 17:06:38 GMT, Brian Henderson wrote: On 8 Mar 2004 09:46:05 GMT, DejaVU wrote: the way to fix that is to have the city build a 'speed hump' on the stop line the ones we have here work well. it is a concrete plateau about 10 inches up from the tar, 45 degree entrance slop eeach end, the plateau is about 4 or 5 feet wide. I wish they'd do something. Actually, they need to put in either a 4-way stop sign or a light at the intersection. People speed through there at 50-60 all the time, it's no wonder people are getting hit as badly as they are. |
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Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve.
Don Bruder scribed in
: the ones we have here work well. it is a concrete plateau about 10 inches up from the tar, 45 degree entrance slop eeach end, the plateau is about 4 or 5 feet wide. No, friend, I think you're either "inventing" the hump, or have no grasp of what distance 10 inches actually is. ok, I'll measure it and photograph it for you. I'm interested to see how close my height guess is.... swarf, steam and wind -- David Forsyth -:- the email address is real /"\ http://terrapin.ru.ac.za/~iwdf/welcome.html \ / ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML E-Mail - - - - - - - X If you receive email saying "Send this to everyone you know," / \ PLEASE pretend you don't know me. |
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If you live in Texas, you can shoot them after they end up on your property.
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makesawdust wrote: If you live in Texas, you can shoot them after they end up on your property. But do you have a good recipe for long pig for your BBQ? -- Free men own guns, slaves don't www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:43:21 +0000, makesawdust
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:43:21 +0000, makesawdust
wrote: If you live in Texas, you can shoot them after they end up on your property. COOL .(not like people dyeing and (them's) how they will not change till 5 people die to put in a yellow blinking light like saying 100mph is impossible on this curve and will end up in *that* yard !), I should move back to TX. I'd buy some hyway cons. concrete barriers and set with a crane somewhat close to the house and not worry about it. They'd have to hit them pretty hard to get to the house. They set them right on the sidewalk here in bad places. The first thing when considering the property would be the traffic... No way , I'd get myself into that position ... One time I was visiting some people and they thought it fun to go across a separated highway and into the exit of rest stops @ a 100 seemed like and plow through the nice green county grass. Deep runts sideways and over and over them like a washboard for what to them was fun... I must admit the flying sod was quite spectacular. Later on I was looking at the sod between the rim and bead of the tire and couldn't believe that it still had pressure. Good inch of sod ! Frankly I've done worse in some respects , but that was wild. One time I found a friend of a friend that flew like 90' over a curved highway rail with his motorcycle in a strange to me state of the union. He was alive and bitching like a sailor. He had bailed over an argument with someone else and never showed back up. I had no idea where to go look for him and given up and drove back and saw a dent in *(a)* guard rail and found him deep into a much lower front yard of a house. Heard from him once years later and he was bitching cause I used the word ****. |
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He said he lived in Kentucky. You can't shoot them there for being on your
property any more than you can in Texas. Get real. Bob Swinney "makesawdust" wrote in message ... If you live in Texas, you can shoot them after they end up on your property. -- makesawdust |
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Jersey barrier.
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:35:35 -0600, "Robert Swinney"
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email He said he lived in Kentucky. You can't shoot them there for being on your property any more than you can in Texas. Get real. Bob Swinney Actually he didn't. This thread has been replied to in error. This is a the old old thread about "Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve." by our erstwhile companion Don. The Kentucky guy's title is "Fed up about cars ending up in yard because of driving too fast" I only point this out because this is really weird, or a troll under a new name. |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:35:35 -0600, "Robert Swinney"
wrote: He said he lived in Kentucky. You can't shoot them there for being on your property any more than you can in Texas. Get real. Actually in Texas,if its night time..you can. All you need say is they were trying to burglarize your property. gunner Bob Swinney "makesawdust" wrote in message ... If you live in Texas, you can shoot them after they end up on your property. -- makesawdust "I mean, when's the last time you heard of a college where the Young Republicans staged a "Sit In" to close down the Humanities building? On the flip side, how many sit in's were staged to close the ROTC building back in the '60's? Liberals stage protests, do civil disobedience, etc. Conservatives talk politely and try to work out a solution to problems through discourse until they believe that talking won't work... they they go home and open the gun cabinets. Pray things never get to the point where the conservatives decide that "civil disobedience" is the next step, because that's a very short route to "voting from the rooftops" Jeffrey Swartz, Misc.Survivalism |
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Thanx Nick. Some of the replies got rearranged and/or lost coming from my
server. Your troll theory has gained credence. Bob Swinney "Old Nick" wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:35:35 -0600, "Robert Swinney" vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email He said he lived in Kentucky. You can't shoot them there for being on your property any more than you can in Texas. Get real. Bob Swinney Actually he didn't. This thread has been replied to in error. This is a the old old thread about "Advice to keep cars from sliding into my yard on bad curve." by our erstwhile companion Don. The Kentucky guy's title is "Fed up about cars ending up in yard because of driving too fast" I only point this out because this is really weird, or a troll under a new name. |
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Gunner sez:
" Actually in Texas,if its night time..you can. All you need say is they were trying to burglarize your property." Naw, Gunner! You got that partly right. What you left out is that you have to drag the bodies inside (preferably before the cops arrive) and claim self defense. This is the famous "Male my day" rule, although it is up to local interpretation. Some jurisdictions tend to lean heavily in favor of the perps, particularly if the protector is a known gun freak. Bob Swinney "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:35:35 -0600, "Robert Swinney" wrote: He said he lived in Kentucky. You can't shoot them there for being on your property any more than you can in Texas. Get real. gunner Bob Swinney "makesawdust" wrote in message ... If you live in Texas, you can shoot them after they end up on your property. -- makesawdust "I mean, when's the last time you heard of a college where the Young Republicans staged a "Sit In" to close down the Humanities building? On the flip side, how many sit in's were staged to close the ROTC building back in the '60's? Liberals stage protests, do civil disobedience, etc. Conservatives talk politely and try to work out a solution to problems through discourse until they believe that talking won't work... they they go home and open the gun cabinets. Pray things never get to the point where the conservatives decide that "civil disobedience" is the next step, because that's a very short route to "voting from the rooftops" Jeffrey Swartz, Misc.Survivalism |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:34:22 -0600, "Robert Swinney"
wrote: Gunner sez: " Actually in Texas,if its night time..you can. All you need say is they were trying to burglarize your property." Naw, Gunner! You got that partly right. What you left out is that you have to drag the bodies inside (preferably before the cops arrive) and claim self defense. This is the famous "Male my day" rule, although it is up to local interpretation. Some jurisdictions tend to lean heavily in favor of the perps, particularly if the protector is a known gun freak. Bob Swinney Actually no Bob..you can shoot the dude in the middle of your back 40. A rather famous case not long ago had the home owner shooting a tow truck driver with a rifle, through the cab, when the tow truck driver mistakenly tried to repo the wrong pickup truck (a Darwin Event) Texas has some interesting laws visa vis the use of deadly force for protection of property and livestock. Delaware IRRC and a number of other states have the Make My Day laws. You may simply shoot an intruder, even if he does not demonstrate a threat to you or yours. As you say, its often up to local juries. However..if the perp had assumed room temperature, his testimony is usually not asked for. Gunner "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:35:35 -0600, "Robert Swinney" wrote: He said he lived in Kentucky. You can't shoot them there for being on your property any more than you can in Texas. Get real. gunner Bob Swinney "makesawdust" wrote in message ... If you live in Texas, you can shoot them after they end up on your property. -- makesawdust "I mean, when's the last time you heard of a college where the Young Republicans staged a "Sit In" to close down the Humanities building? On the flip side, how many sit in's were staged to close the ROTC building back in the '60's? Liberals stage protests, do civil disobedience, etc. Conservatives talk politely and try to work out a solution to problems through discourse until they believe that talking won't work... they they go home and open the gun cabinets. Pray things never get to the point where the conservatives decide that "civil disobedience" is the next step, because that's a very short route to "voting from the rooftops" Jeffrey Swartz, Misc.Survivalism "I mean, when's the last time you heard of a college where the Young Republicans staged a "Sit In" to close down the Humanities building? On the flip side, how many sit in's were staged to close the ROTC building back in the '60's? Liberals stage protests, do civil disobedience, etc. Conservatives talk politely and try to work out a solution to problems through discourse until they believe that talking won't work... they they go home and open the gun cabinets. Pray things never get to the point where the conservatives decide that "civil disobedience" is the next step, because that's a very short route to "voting from the rooftops" Jeffrey Swartz, Misc.Survivalism |
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