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troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:


it just doesn't ....

About to swallow now, you senile sucker of troll cock? BG

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints. Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a generic
name for it.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps?

Nope, it's the only sensible way to do it.

Kinda like sellotaping things together instead of using screws!

Nothing like. The tape doesn't hold it to the wall, stupid.

Isn't that tape going to peel off at some later stage?

Nope.

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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:27:13 +0100, Dim GM4DHJ ... the brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:


It's just just they way things are.....

Yeah, he makes you senile idiots suck him off, every time he feels he wants
to be sucked off by one of you!

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:28:17 +0100, Dim GM4DHJ ... the brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:


easier to go up in flames....needs a spread of flame rating ...

harder to make you stop sucking off the trolling cretin, senile cocksucker!

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:28:23 +0100, charles, another brain dead,
troll-feeding senile asshole, babbled:


and a lot more expensive.

Well, nothing could be as cheap as you senile cocksuckers sucking off the
trolls any time he wants to be sucked off by one of you ...for FREE! BG

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:53 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a generic
name for it.

scrim tape ...

I saw a van once with "Ames taping" on it and thought, that's a very
narrow field of work!
I saw another van with "Time served" which I think means he's done an
apprenticeship. But I assumed it meant he's been in jail.
I saw another van with "A. Prentice" which I assume is his name, but not a
very good advert.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps? Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws! Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?

stops cracking at the joint.....you plaster flush over the tape and fill
the joint...one side of plasterboard is bevelled to allow for the tape
and the filling of the joint....

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

Because the tape is stronger in tension than plaster, stupid.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry, unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with paper.

Nope, the paper is just the surface.

Use wood for crying out loud.

No thanks, much more expensive for a wall or ceiling

No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

easier to screw things into like a picture frame etc.

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On 2020-05-15 1:11 p.m., Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 20:57, % wrote:
On 2020-05-15 12:46 p.m., Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence "Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

drywall tape
not scrim tape then ?...Ames being a trade name ?....

drywall tape and don't put it on backwards

On 2020-05-15 1:35 p.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints. Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape.* There must be a generic
name for it.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps?* Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws!* Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?

durabond , 90 and 45

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:20:07 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"newshound" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard "drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry, unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints. Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:26:16 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 15/05/2020 22:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:53 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a generic
name for it.

scrim tape ...

I saw a van once with "Ames taping" on it and thought, that's a very
narrow field of work!
I saw another van with "Time served" which I think means he's done an
apprenticeship. But I assumed it meant he's been in jail.
I saw another van with "A. Prentice" which I assume is his name, but not
a very good advert.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps? Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws! Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?

stops cracking at the joint.....you plaster flush over the tape and fill
the joint...one side of plasterboard is bevelled to allow for the tape
and the filling of the joint....

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?
it just doesn't ....

You sound like a builder. They do things because they're told that's the way it's done. Ask them why and they get confused.

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:27:13 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 15/05/2020 22:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:10 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:39, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 19:28:00 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

I still buy 2 by 1, but the blasted stuff sold
as PAR (planed all round) is nowhere near 2 x 1.

Local builder's merchant here sells what I ask for. They have several
sizes.
oooh lucky you .... four by two is the rough sawn size....when planed it
is smaller....

Mine sells by the mm. They quote on the website the precise size it is
when you buy it. Why would I want to buy a rough size which may not
match what I already have? Your houses must end up really wonky.
It's just just they way things are.....

Don't accept inferior products. If you buy something that's supposed to 16 of something, and it's 15, that's not fit for purpose.

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:28:17 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 15/05/2020 22:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry, unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with paper.
Use wood for crying out loud. No crumbling, easier to remove, easier to
screw things into like a picture frame etc.
easier to go up in flames....needs a spread of flame rating ...

Top tip - don't light fires inside your house.

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:28:23 +0100, charles wrote:

In article op.0koff3e6wdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with paper.
Use wood for crying out loud. No crumbling, easier to remove, easier to
screw things into like a picture frame etc.

and a lot more expensive.

If a job's worth doing....

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:37:40 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints. Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a generic
name for it.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps?

Nope, it's the only sensible way to do it.

Skimming?

Kinda like sellotaping things together instead of using screws!

Nothing like. The tape doesn't hold it to the wall, stupid.

I didn't say it did. But it can come off.

Isn't that tape going to peel off at some later stage?

Nope.

Why not? Is it magical? Every other tape comes off.

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:43:26 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:53 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a generic
name for it.

scrim tape ...

I saw a van once with "Ames taping" on it and thought, that's a very
narrow field of work!
I saw another van with "Time served" which I think means he's done an
apprenticeship. But I assumed it meant he's been in jail.
I saw another van with "A. Prentice" which I assume is his name, but not a
very good advert.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps? Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws! Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?

stops cracking at the joint.....you plaster flush over the tape and fill
the joint...one side of plasterboard is bevelled to allow for the tape
and the filling of the joint....

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

Because the tape is stronger in tension than plaster, stupid.

But the filler still has to stretch, which it doesn't, it cracks.

On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:46:07 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
newsp.0koff3e6wdg98l@glass...
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry, unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with paper.

Nope, the paper is just the surface.

Under the paper is just powder. Ever tried removing some?

Use wood for crying out loud.

No thanks, much more expensive for a wall or ceiling

But a better finished product.

No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

Wood does not crumble. Wood panels attached with screws come off by simply undoing some screws. You can even reuse the wood. But plasterboard ends up in a cloud of dust and mess.

easier to screw things into like a picture frame etc.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:20:07 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"newshound" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry, unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints. Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:37:40 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a generic
name for it.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps?

Nope, it's the only sensible way to do it.

Skimming?

Using the tape. Stops it cracking later.

Kinda like sellotaping things together instead of using screws!

Nothing like. The tape doesn't hold it to the wall, stupid.

I didn't say it did. But it can come off.

No it doesn't.

Isn't that tape going to peel off at some later stage?

Nope.

Why not?

The plaster keeps it on.

Is it magical?

Nope.

Every other tape comes off.

The other tape isnt plastered, stupid.

And the best duct tape doesn't come off.

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
....

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:43:26 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:53 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a
generic
name for it.

scrim tape ...

I saw a van once with "Ames taping" on it and thought, that's a very
narrow field of work!
I saw another van with "Time served" which I think means he's done an
apprenticeship. But I assumed it meant he's been in jail.
I saw another van with "A. Prentice" which I assume is his name, but not
a
very good advert.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps? Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws! Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?

stops cracking at the joint.....you plaster flush over the tape and
fill
the joint...one side of plasterboard is bevelled to allow for the tape
and the filling of the joint....

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

Because the tape is stronger in tension than plaster, stupid.

But the filler still has to stretch,

Nope, the tape stops any movement.

which it doesn't, it cracks.

Wrong, as always.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:46:07 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
newsp.0koff3e6wdg98l@glass...
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with paper.

Nope, the paper is just the surface.

Under the paper is just powder.

Wrong. as always. If it was, it would all fall
down to the bottom and it clearly doesn't.

Ever tried removing some?

Yep.

Use wood for crying out loud.

No thanks, much more expensive for a wall or ceiling

But a better finished product.

Wrong. as always.

No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

Wood does not crumble.

It rots and gets white ants etc eating it.

Wood panels attached with screws come off by simply undoing some screws.

Undoing a hell of a lot of screws.

You can even reuse the wood.

Not if the white ants have been eating it.

But plasterboard ends up in a cloud of dust and mess.

Only if you are stupid enough to remove it.

easier to screw things into like a picture frame etc.

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On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry, unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints. Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

I'd never use the Neanderthal stuff.

On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it! So what if the tape gives, the plaster over it will still crack.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK. Horrid stuff, try removing it.

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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:53 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a
generic
name for it.

scrim tape ...

I saw a van once with "Ames taping" on it and thought, that's a very
narrow field of work!
I saw another van with "Time served" which I think means he's done an
apprenticeship. But I assumed it meant he's been in jail.
I saw another van with "A. Prentice" which I assume is his name, but not
a
very good advert.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps? Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws! Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?

stops cracking at the joint.....you plaster flush over the tape and
fill
the joint...one side of plasterboard is bevelled to allow for the tape
and the filling of the joint....

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

Because the tape is stronger in tension than plaster, stupid.

But the filler still has to stretch,

Nope, the tape stops any movement.

It ain't strong enough to stop something 50 billion times heavier than itself from moving.

On 5/15/2020 6:48 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it!* So what if the tape gives, the plaster
over it will still crack.

Not unless the wall moves so much anything else would as well.

100 years applications prove the principle works pretty doggone well.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK.* Horrid stuff, try removing it.

No problem at all--it's trivial to remove or cut into for access for
other work or repair such as electrical or plumbing and then repair
it--certainly far easier than lath and plaster.

--

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"newshound" wrote in message
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On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

I'd never use the Neanderthal stuff.

It is in fact much more recent than timber walls, you pathetic excuse for a
troll.

On 2020-05-15 4:49 p.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:42 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:53 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering,
stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape.* There must be a
generic
name for it.

scrim tape ...

I saw a van once with "Ames taping" on it and thought, that's a very
narrow field of work!
I saw another van with "Time served" which I think means he's done an
apprenticeship.* But I assumed it meant he's been in jail.
I saw another van with "A. Prentice" which I assume is his name,
but not
a
very good advert.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps?* Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws!* Isn't that
tape
going to peel off at some later stage?

stops cracking at the joint.....you plaster flush over the tape and
fill
the joint...one side of plasterboard is bevelled to allow for the
tape
and the filling of the joint....

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

Because the tape is stronger in tension than plaster, stupid.

But the filler still has to stretch,

Nope, the tape stops any movement.

It ain't strong enough to stop something 50 billion times heavier than
itself from moving.


yes it is

On Sat, 16 May 2020 00:54:20 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 6:48 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it! So what if the tape gives, the plaster
over it will still crack.

Not unless the wall moves so much anything else would as well.

100 years applications prove the principle works pretty doggone well.

I don't see how the tape helps. It's not going to reduce movement at all. Just put the plaster straight into the gap.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK. Horrid stuff, try removing it.

No problem at all--it's trivial to remove or cut into for access for
other work or repair such as electrical or plumbing and then repair
it--certainly far easier than lath and plaster.

Plasterboard is basically powder. Cut it and you get a dusty mess. Try removing a whole sheet of it, especially when a moronic builder with no long term planning has used nails which you can't remove without crumbling the plasterboard to pieces.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 01:02:34 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:20:07 +0100, Rod Speed
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"newshound" wrote in message
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On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

I'd never use the Neanderthal stuff.

It is in fact much more recent than timber walls

Doesn't mean it's better, just cheap ****. Dyson bagless hoovers are more recent, doesn't mean it's a good idea to have your dust float all over the room when you try to empty it.

And if you want cheap, just buy chipboard. Easier and cleaner to cut, put up, remove, and screw things into.

you pathetic excuse for a troll.

Pot kettle black. Everybody on here refers to you as that.

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On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it! So what if the tape gives,

It doesn't.

the plaster over it will still crack.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK. Horrid stuff, try removing it.

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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:53 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering,
stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a
generic
name for it.

scrim tape ...

I saw a van once with "Ames taping" on it and thought, that's a very
narrow field of work!
I saw another van with "Time served" which I think means he's done an
apprenticeship. But I assumed it meant he's been in jail.
I saw another van with "A. Prentice" which I assume is his name, but
not
a
very good advert.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps? Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws! Isn't that
tape
going to peel off at some later stage?

stops cracking at the joint.....you plaster flush over the tape and
fill
the joint...one side of plasterboard is bevelled to allow for the
tape
and the filling of the joint....

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

Because the tape is stronger in tension than plaster, stupid.

But the filler still has to stretch,

Nope, the tape stops any movement.

It ain't strong enough to stop something 50 billion times heavier than
itself from moving.

It isnt there to do that. It just flexes if the sheets move a little.

On 15/05/2020 16:56, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article op.0kn01ka0wdg98l@glass, says...

I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard "drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry, unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.



We do many things backwards. We park our cars in the driveway and drive
on the parkways.

Your candidates run for office. Ours stand.

Bill

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On Sat, 16 May 2020 00:54:20 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 6:48 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it! So what if the tape gives, the plaster
over it will still crack.

Not unless the wall moves so much anything else would as well.

100 years applications prove the principle works pretty doggone well.

I don't see how the tape helps.

Yes, you have always been that hopeless at anything mechanical.

It's not going to reduce movement at all.

It flexes when there is movement. Plaster doesn't.

Just put the plaster straight into the gap.

That cracks when there is some movement.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK. Horrid stuff, try removing
it.

No problem at all--it's trivial to remove or cut into for access for
other work or repair such as electrical or plumbing and then repair
it--certainly far easier than lath and plaster.

Plasterboard is basically powder.

If it was, it would all fall down inside the plasterboard and even
someone as stupid as you should have noticed that it doesn't.

Cut it and you get a dusty mess.

Not if you cut it with the right tools.

Try removing a whole sheet of it,

Works fine.

especially when a moronic builder with no long term planning has used
nails which you can't remove without rumbling the plasterboard to pieces.

Watch what happens when a house is demo9lished with
a backhoe, no clouds of powder from the plasterboard.

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"newshound" wrote in message
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On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

I'd never use the Neanderthal stuff.

It is in fact much more recent than timber walls

Doesn't mean it's better, just cheap ****.

Does mean its not Neanderthal stuff, you
pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist/troll.

Dyson bagless hoovers are more recent, doesn't mean it's a good idea to
have your dust float all over the room when you try to empty it.

Anyone with even half a clue does that outside,
stupid. And its certainly not Neanderthal stuff,
you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist/troll.

And if you want cheap, just buy chipboard.

Much more expensive than plasterboard.

Easier and cleaner to cut, put up,

Wrong, as always.

remove,

Wrong, as always.

and screw things into.

Not stupid enough to do that.

you pathetic excuse for a troll.

Pot kettle black. Everybody on here refers to you as that.

Lying thru your ****ing teeth as you always
do when you have got done like a ****ing
dinner, as you always are, you pathetic
excuse for a lying bull**** artist/troll.

On 15/05/2020 23:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:27:13 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 22:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:10 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:39, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 19:28:00 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

I still buy 2 by 1, but the blasted stuff sold
as PAR (planed all round) is nowhere near 2 x 1.

Local builder's merchant here sells what I ask for.* They have several
sizes.
oooh lucky you .... four by two is the rough sawn size....when
planed it
is smaller....

Mine sells by the mm.* They quote on the website the precise size it is
when you buy it.* Why would I want to buy a rough size which may not
match what I already have?* Your houses must end up really wonky.
It's just just they way things are.....

Don't accept inferior products.* If you buy something that's supposed to
16 of something, and it's 15, that's not fit for purpose.
so you just throw away the traditions of the building industry ? ...