On 17/5/20 10:41 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:04:30 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 16/5/20 9:48 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:48:01 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:20:07 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:



"newshound" wrote in message
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On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

I'd never use the Neanderthal stuff.

You wouldn't know how.

Why would I use the complicated messy **** when a wood panel is easier
to put up, easier to remove, and easier to attach things to.

You still need to fill between sheets of wood and, because of the
sheet's expansion coefficient, those joints *will crack*.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 17/5/20 12:52 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 06:17:05 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 23:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:27:13 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 22:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:10 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 21:39, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 19:28:00 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

I still buy 2 by 1, but the blasted stuff sold
as PAR (planed all round) is nowhere near 2 x 1.

Local builder's merchant here sells what I ask for.* They have
several
sizes.
oooh lucky you .... four by two is the rough sawn size....when
planed it
is smaller....

Mine sells by the mm.* They quote on the website the precise size
it is
when you buy it.* Why would I want to buy a rough size which may not
match what I already have?* Your houses must end up really wonky.
It's just just they way things are.....

Don't accept inferior products.* If you buy something that's supposed to
16 of something, and it's 15, that's not fit for purpose.
so you just throw away the traditions of the building industry ? ...

I prefer to get what I ask for, not something that's traditional.* Would
you buy a traditional cuckoo clock that couldn't keep the correct time?

Your problem, as I see it, is that you don't know what to ask for.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Sun, 17 May 2020 11:56:13 +1000, Xeno
wrote:

On 17/5/20 6:31 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 13:42:29 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 16/5/20 8:54 am, dpb wrote:
On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

It is. Did my kitchen out with it 20 years ago. That house was built in
53 and it had gypsum sheeting so it isn't new by any stretch of the
imagination.

Wait till you want to remove it.* Get a dust mask ready.

Do you have reading comprehension issues? *I did remove it* 20 years ago
when I redid my kitchen. Also did the laundry, bathroom and toilet at
the same time. The rest of the house didn't require new plaster sheeting.
He's got more than reading comprehension problems - they are the
LEAST of his problems. Not sure how anyone that thick can survive in
today's world- even in Scotland.

On 17/5/20 12:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:34:50 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 16/5/20 3:19 pm, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

ever tried removing tiles from plasterboard....?

Just replace the plasterboard sheet as part of the repair/rebuild. It
isn't hard.

Do you like replacing two things instead of one?

Not generally but if the tiles are glued to plasterboard, then not a lot
of choice as the tiles won't always come away clean. Replace both,
quick, easy and *cleaner*.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 17/5/20 10:48 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:12:28 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 16/05/2020 15:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:34:50 +0100, Xeno
wrote:

On 16/5/20 3:19 pm, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

ever tried removing tiles from plasterboard....?

Just replace the plasterboard sheet as part of the repair/rebuild. It
isn't hard.

Do you like replacing two things instead of one?

It's only £6 a sheet though.

It's the time taken I was thinking of.

My time is free, plasterers do it in minimal time because of experience.
Where exactly is the problem?

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 17/5/20 12:10 am, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 16/05/2020 14:28, Xeno wrote:
On 16/5/20 7:03 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****.* It's powder held together with
paper. Use wood for crying out loud.* No crumbling, easier to remove,
easier to screw things into like a picture frame etc.

Easier to screw things into plasterboard, you just need the right
attachments or, alternatively, ensure you're screwing into a wall stud.

Plenty of drywall screw attachments to choose from as well as drywall
toggle cavity fasteners.

Your problem is a lack of real world experience. Only you can fix that!

I like people like you who know what they are talking about......

I think it's because of my age, many years of *experience*.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Sat, 16 May 2020 03:52:00 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:


Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK.* Horrid stuff, try
removing it.


How often do you remove yours? Do you take it down weekly for cleaning?
I just leave it in place unless doing a remodel a couple of times in
my life.

On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:32:56 +1000, Xeno
wrote:

On 17/5/20 12:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:34:50 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 16/5/20 3:19 pm, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

ever tried removing tiles from plasterboard....?

Just replace the plasterboard sheet as part of the repair/rebuild. It
isn't hard.

Do you like replacing two things instead of one?

Not generally but if the tiles are glued to plasterboard, then not a lot
of choice as the tiles won't always come away clean. Replace both,
quick, easy and *cleaner*.
You can take the tile ANF wallboard off a lot quicker and easier than
taking tile off a mortar bed on lath. Likey just as quick even putting
up new wallboard or backer board if you are retiling rather than
scraping the crap off plaster - and it comes off several sq ft at a
time.

On 17/05/2020 03:35, Xeno wrote:
On 17/5/20 12:10 am, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 16/05/2020 14:28, Xeno wrote:
On 16/5/20 7:03 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall,
sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****.* It's powder held together with
paper. Use wood for crying out loud.* No crumbling, easier to
remove, easier to screw things into like a picture frame etc.

Easier to screw things into plasterboard, you just need the right
attachments or, alternatively, ensure you're screwing into a wall stud.

Plenty of drywall screw attachments to choose from as well as drywall
toggle cavity fasteners.

Your problem is a lack of real world experience. Only you can fix that!

I like people like you who know what they are talking about......

I think it's because of my age, many years of *experience*.

that will be it ...

On Sun, 17 May 2020 11:27:18 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:


As a teacher of tradesmen, now retired

Make that "now retarded", you retarded piece of troll-feeding senile
Australian ****!

On Sun, 17 May 2020 11:31:30 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:

As Clare just stated, the wall studs provide the location and the
nails/screws prevent movement. Nothing more is needed.

Oh, yeah! What BOTH of you subnormal idiots need is a BRAIN! BG

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 11:48:20 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:

Since the plasterboard sheets are attached to the same studs, one above
the other, it would be a miracle if they moved in relation to each other.

No plasterboard can be as attached to some studs as you are attached to the
unwashed Scottish ******'s unwashed cock! Right, senie Ozzietard? BG

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 11:51:10 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:


I must be. It came off in complete sheets. But then, I'm a tradesman.

Don't know. You just come across as a complete asshole and nothing else,
Ozzietard! LOL

On Sun, 17 May 2020 11:56:13 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:

Do you have reading comprehension issues?

He doesn't, senile idiot! He knows EXACTLY how to play with brainless senile
idiots like you! Just look at the SUCCESS of his latest absolutely idiotic
thread. And, yes, YOU senile ASSHOLE contributed heavily to it's "success"!
What a true asshole!

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senile Australian idiot, blathered:

It's called a *guarantee*.

No, it's called a troll-feeding senile Australian asshole!

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:12:10 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:

No wood under my roof tiles

Nor any brain under your roof, senile Arsetralian!

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After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
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Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

MID:

On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:13:35 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:

You still need to fill between sheets of wood and, because of the
sheet's expansion coefficient, those joints *will crack*.

BOTH of you exceptional retards ARE already completely cracked! LOL

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:22:57 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:

Your problem, as I see it, is that you don't know what to ask for.

Your problems is, as everyone can see it, that you are too full of yourself,
you demented senile troll-feeding asshole!

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:33:53 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:


My time is free, plasterers do it in minimal time because of experience.
Where exactly is the problem?

Isn't the unwashed Scottish ******'s cock all sore yet what with all your
sucking him off so hard all the time, you passionate senile sucker of troll
cock?

On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:32:56 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:

Not generally but if the tiles are glued to plasterboard

No tile can be as glued to any plasterboard as your toothless senile gob is
hermetically glued to the unwashed Scottish ******'s cock, you passionate
senile sucker of troll cock!

On 17/5/20 1:20 pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2020 03:52:00 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:


Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK.* Horrid stuff, try
removing it.


How often do you remove yours?* Do you take it down weekly for cleaning?
*I just leave it in place unless doing a remodel a couple of times in
my life.

I had lived in that house for 15 years and did a much needed update in
the kitchen. It had very old built in kitchen cabinets, a strange box
arrangement where the stove and oven were. I went the whole hog, took
the walls right back to the studs, ripped the ceiling sheets down from
the ceiling beams - then started with a blank canvas. Once finished I
did similar things to the walls in the bathroom, toilet and laundry.
Made all rooms look a whole lot better and a lot more functional by the
time I'd finished.
But that was a once only. Did some bathroom renos in the next house and
some floor tiling, nothing major.
My current house was only 8 years old when I bought it, don't intend to
do anything major, no need.


--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 17/5/20 10:43 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:16:38 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 16/5/20 6:35 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape.* There must be a generic
name for it.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps?* Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws!* Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?
Pros use paper tape OIYers use sticky mesh tape

OIY?* That's Aussie for "yoohoo!"

If you're a pro you shouldn't need tape.
Pros almost all use paper tape and NEVER use just plaster or filler on
gyproc {drywall}

On 16/5/20 11:03 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 01:02:34 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:48:01 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:20:07 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

"newshound" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

I'd never use the Neanderthal stuff.

It is in fact much more recent than timber walls

Doesn't mean it's better, just cheap ****.* Dyson bagless hoovers are
more recent, doesn't mean it's a good idea to have your dust float all
over the room when you try to empty it.

And if you want cheap, just buy chipboard.* Easier and cleaner to cut,
put up, remove, and screw things into.

you pathetic excuse for a troll.

Pot kettle black.* Everybody on here refers to you as that.
What are you calling neanderthal stuff?
It seems that you have no grasp of the topic

On 16/5/20 8:30 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:46:07 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling!* So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****.* It's powder held together with paper.

Nope, the paper is just the surface.

Under the paper is just powder.* Ever tried removing some?

Use wood for crying out loud.

No thanks, much more expensive for a wall or ceiling

But a better finished product.

No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

Wood does not crumble.* Wood panels attached with screws come off by
simply undoing some screws.* You can even reuse the wood.* But
plasterboard ends up in a cloud of dust and mess.

easier to screw things into like a picture frame etc.

Are you talking of planks, tongue and groove ,shiplap ,plywood, adzed
logs? none of which can be made into a continuous flat surface.

On 17/5/20 10:48 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:12:28 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 16/05/2020 15:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:34:50 +0100, Xeno
wrote:

On 16/5/20 3:19 pm, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

ever tried removing tiles from plasterboard....?

Just replace the plasterboard sheet as part of the repair/rebuild. It
isn't hard.

Do you like replacing two things instead of one?

It's only £6 a sheet though.

It's the time taken I was thinking of.
Less time and effort than removing tiles from any other surface.

On Sun, 17 May 2020 21:23:48 +1000, Fartz, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile Ozzietard, blathered:

Pros almost all use paper tape and NEVER use just plaster or filler on
gyproc {drywall}

You senile Ozzietards on Usenet really are "special"! I assume that the
decent and smart Ozzies just hang out in the Australian ngs. BG

On Sun, 17 May 2020 21:28:23 +1000, Fartz, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile Ozzietard, blathered:


What are you calling neanderthal stuff?
It seems that you have no grasp of the topic

Nope, it seems more like you have no idea of what's going on here, you
troll-feeding senile Ozzietard! It's definitely a senile thing!

On Sun, 17 May 2020 21:43:03 +1000, Fartz, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile Ozzietard, blathered:

Are you talking of planks, tongue and groove ,shiplap ,plywood, adzed
logs? none of which can be made into a continuous flat surface.

Who but a COMPLETE IDIOT gives a **** what this ATTESTED clinically insane
sociopathic troll is talking about?

On Sun, 17 May 2020 21:48:37 +1000, Fartz, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile Ozzietard, blathered:

Less time and effort than removing tiles from any other surface.

Always enough time to feed the dumbest trolls around, eh, senile Fartz?

On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:59:41 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:46:07 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....

They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with paper.

Nope, the paper is just the surface.

Under the paper is just powder.

Wrong. as always. If it was, it would all fall
down to the bottom and it clearly doesn't.

Take the paper off and pick at it with your finger. It's powder. Maybe there's something in it to stick it together slightly, but it's certainly not strong enough to prevent it going everywhere when you break it, cut it, or try to screw something into it.

Ever tried removing some?

Yep.

And then spent hours hoovering up afterwards.

Use wood for crying out loud.

No thanks, much more expensive for a wall or ceiling

But a better finished product.

Wrong. as always.

You can screw into wood. You can remove wood without making a mess. It's easier to cut.

No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

Wood does not crumble.

It rots and gets white ants etc eating it.

And if plasterboard gets damp? What do you think the paper does?

Wood panels attached with screws come off by simply undoing some screws.

Undoing a hell of a lot of screws.

Somehow plasterboard needs less?

You can even reuse the wood.

Not if the white ants have been eating it.

I don't have those here. If I did they would be exterminated.

But plasterboard ends up in a cloud of dust and mess.

Only if you are stupid enough to remove it.

People renovate.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 13:45:58 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 16/5/20 9:54 am, dpb wrote:
On 5/15/2020 6:48 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it! So what if the tape gives, the plaster
over it will still crack.

Not unless the wall moves so much anything else would as well.

100 years applications prove the principle works pretty doggone well.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK. Horrid stuff, try removing
it.

No problem at all--it's trivial to remove or cut into for access for
other work or repair such as electrical or plumbing and then repair
it--certainly far easier than lath and plaster.

--

Lath and plaster, seen entire houses done with that method. Admittedly,
the houses were ancient but it looked like a very time intensive job.
Just think how hard it was to get surfaces flat. Would have taken real
skill.

Therefore we invented wood. No skill required.

On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:23:48 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 17/5/20 10:43 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:16:38 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 16/5/20 6:35 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a generic
name for it.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps? Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws! Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?
Pros use paper tape OIYers use sticky mesh tape

OIY? That's Aussie for "yoohoo!"

If you're a pro you shouldn't need tape.
Pros almost all use paper tape and NEVER use just plaster or filler on
gyproc {drywall}

Because they're incompetant. Just because you do something for a living doesn't mean you're good at it.