On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:28:23 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 16/5/20 11:03 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 01:02:34 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

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On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:48:01 +0100, Rod Speed
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:20:07 +0100, Rod Speed

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"newshound" wrote in message
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On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

I'd never use the Neanderthal stuff.

It is in fact much more recent than timber walls

Doesn't mean it's better, just cheap ****. Dyson bagless hoovers are
more recent, doesn't mean it's a good idea to have your dust float all
over the room when you try to empty it.

And if you want cheap, just buy chipboard. Easier and cleaner to cut,
put up, remove, and screw things into.

you pathetic excuse for a troll.

Pot kettle black. Everybody on here refers to you as that.
What are you calling neanderthal stuff?
It seems that you have no grasp of the topic

I use wood. A far superior material to powder covered in paper.

On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:43:03 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 16/5/20 8:30 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:46:07 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal
wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall, sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with paper.

Nope, the paper is just the surface.

Under the paper is just powder. Ever tried removing some?

Use wood for crying out loud.

No thanks, much more expensive for a wall or ceiling

But a better finished product.

No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

Wood does not crumble. Wood panels attached with screws come off by
simply undoing some screws. You can even reuse the wood. But
plasterboard ends up in a cloud of dust and mess.

easier to screw things into like a picture frame etc.

Are you talking of planks, tongue and groove ,shiplap ,plywood, adzed
logs? none of which can be made into a continuous flat surface.

Use whichever you like, depending on price, ease of fitting, quality, etc.

They're all a continuous flat surface.

On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:48:37 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 17/5/20 10:48 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:12:28 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 16/05/2020 15:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:34:50 +0100, Xeno
wrote:

On 16/5/20 3:19 pm, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

ever tried removing tiles from plasterboard....?

Just replace the plasterboard sheet as part of the repair/rebuild. It
isn't hard.

Do you like replacing two things instead of one?

It's only £6 a sheet though.

It's the time taken I was thinking of.
Less time and effort than removing tiles from any other surface.

A surface that's tougher than plasterboard will not need to be replaced.

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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal

wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....

They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall,
sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with
paper.

Nope, the paper is just the surface.

Under the paper is just powder.

Wrong. as always. If it was, it would all fall
down to the bottom and it clearly doesn't.

Take the paper off and pick at it with your finger. It's powder.

Not if you arent stupid enough to do that it isnt.

Maybe there's something in it to stick it together slightly,

Lot more than slightly, stupid.

but it's certainly not strong enough to prevent it going everywhere when
you break it, cut it, or try to screw something into it.

Wrong, as always.

Ever tried removing some?

Yep.

And then spent hours hoovering up afterwards.

Nope, didn't need to do any hoovering at all.

Use wood for crying out loud.

No thanks, much more expensive for a wall or ceiling

But a better finished product.

Wrong. as always.

You can screw into wood.

You can screw into the studs for heavy stuff
and used drywall toggles for light stuff.

You can remove wood without making a mess.

You can with drywall unless you are an incompetent fool too.

It's easier to cut.

That's a pig ignorant lie.

No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

Wood does not crumble.

It rots and gets white ants etc eating it.

And if plasterboard gets damp?

Its fine.

What do you think the paper does?

Nothing special. You can wall paper it fine
and can paint it with water based paint fine.

Wood panels attached with screws come off by simply undoing some screws.

Undoing a hell of a lot of screws.

Somehow plasterboard needs less?

Yep.

You can even reuse the wood.

Not if the white ants have been eating it.

I don't have those here.

Your problem.

If I did they would be exterminated.

Easier said than done.

But plasterboard ends up in a cloud of dust and mess.

Only if you are stupid enough to remove it.

People renovate.

And don't end up with a cloud of dust and mess
when they know what they are doing, unlike you.

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On Sat, 16 May 2020 13:45:58 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 16/5/20 9:54 am, dpb wrote:
On 5/15/2020 6:48 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it! So what if the tape gives, the plaster
over it will still crack.

Not unless the wall moves so much anything else would as well.

100 years applications prove the principle works pretty doggone well.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK. Horrid stuff, try removing
it.

No problem at all--it's trivial to remove or cut into for access for
other work or repair such as electrical or plumbing and then repair
it--certainly far easier than lath and plaster.

--

Lath and plaster, seen entire houses done with that method. Admittedly,
the houses were ancient but it looked like a very time intensive job.
Just think how hard it was to get surfaces flat. Would have taken real
skill.

Therefore we invented wood.

Wrong, as always. Wood was used long before drywall was even invented.

No skill required.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:23:48 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 17/5/20 10:43 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:16:38 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 16/5/20 6:35 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:46:25 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 20:41, newshound wrote:
On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering, stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".
wonder what they call Ames tape ?

I assume that's a company name, like Duck Tape. There must be a
generic
name for it.

Anyway, isn't that the cheating way of filling gaps? Kinda like
sellotaping things together instead of using screws! Isn't that tape
going to peel off at some later stage?
Pros use paper tape OIYers use sticky mesh tape

OIY? That's Aussie for "yoohoo!"

If you're a pro you shouldn't need tape.

Pros almost all use paper tape and NEVER use just plaster or filler on
gyproc {drywall}

Because they're incompetant.

All of them, eh ?

Just because you do something for a living doesn't mean you're good at it.

Lot better at it and fools like you.

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:28:23 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 16/5/20 11:03 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 01:02:34 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:48:01 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:20:07 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

"newshound" wrote in message
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On 15/05/2020 17:12, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall"
even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

I'm not astonished or amazed that you are astonished at that, you
have
always been that mindlessly obsessive about words.
Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Plastered walls are wet when you are doing the plastering,
stupid.

Not usually in America, where they just tape and fill the joints.
Hence
"Drywall".

I was talking about lath and plaster, not joins in whatever you
call
sheets
of drywall.

Wet plastering is still done in the UK, most obviously with
skimming.

Far too skillfull a task for an American.

Wrong, they used to do it that way until they invented drywall.

You lot are too stupid to do it the better way.

I'd never use the Neanderthal stuff.

It is in fact much more recent than timber walls

Doesn't mean it's better, just cheap ****. Dyson bagless hoovers are
more recent, doesn't mean it's a good idea to have your dust float all
over the room when you try to empty it.

And if you want cheap, just buy chipboard. Easier and cleaner to cut,
put up, remove, and screw things into.

you pathetic excuse for a troll.

Pot kettle black. Everybody on here refers to you as that.
What are you calling neanderthal stuff?
It seems that you have no grasp of the topic

I use wood.

Yep, you actually are that stupid.

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:43:03 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 16/5/20 8:30 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:46:07 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal

wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall,
sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with
paper.

Nope, the paper is just the surface.

Under the paper is just powder. Ever tried removing some?

Use wood for crying out loud.

No thanks, much more expensive for a wall or ceiling

But a better finished product.

No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

Wood does not crumble. Wood panels attached with screws come off by
simply undoing some screws. You can even reuse the wood. But
plasterboard ends up in a cloud of dust and mess.

easier to screw things into like a picture frame etc.

Are you talking of planks, tongue and groove ,shiplap ,plywood, adzed
logs? none of which can be made into a continuous flat surface.

Use whichever you like, depending on price, ease of fitting, quality, etc.

They're all a continuous flat surface.

Wrong, as always.
https://cdn.britannica.com/25/136625...d-paneling.jpg

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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:48:37 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 17/5/20 10:48 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:12:28 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 16/05/2020 15:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:34:50 +0100, Xeno
wrote:

On 16/5/20 3:19 pm, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

ever tried removing tiles from plasterboard....?

Just replace the plasterboard sheet as part of the repair/rebuild. It
isn't hard.

Do you like replacing two things instead of one?

It's only £6 a sheet though.

It's the time taken I was thinking of.
Less time and effort than removing tiles from any other surface.

A surface that's tougher than plasterboard will not need to be replaced.=

Pity about getting the tiles off it.

On 18/5/20 8:43 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 13:45:58 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 16/5/20 9:54 am, dpb wrote:
On 5/15/2020 6:48 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it!* So what if the tape gives, the plaster
over it will still crack.

Not unless the wall moves so much anything else would as well.

100 years applications prove the principle works pretty doggone well.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK.* Horrid stuff, try removing
it.

No problem at all--it's trivial to remove or cut into for access for
other work or repair such as electrical or plumbing and then repair
it--certainly far easier than lath and plaster.

--

Lath and plaster, seen entire houses done with that method. Admittedly,
the houses were ancient but it looked like a very time intensive job.
Just think how hard it was to get surfaces flat. Would have taken real
skill.

Therefore we invented wood.* No skill required.

Invented wood? What planet are you on?

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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On Mon, 18 May 2020 13:39:19 +1000, Xeno, another brainless, troll-feeding,
senile Australian idiot, blathered:


Invented wood? What planet are you on?

Take a guess, troll-feeding senile Arsetralian arsehole!

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On 17/05/2020 23:47, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:48:37 +0100, F Murtz wrote:

On 17/5/20 10:48 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:12:28 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 16/05/2020 15:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 14:34:50 +0100, Xeno
wrote:

On 16/5/20 3:19 pm, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


No crumbling, easier to remove,

Wrong, as always.

ever tried removing tiles from plasterboard....?

Just replace the plasterboard sheet as part of the repair/rebuild. It
isn't hard.

Do you like replacing two things instead of one?

It's only £6 a sheet though.

It's the time taken I was thinking of.
Less time and effort than removing tiles from any other surface.

A surface that's tougher than plasterboard will not need to be replaced.

Like Fermacell.

On Mon, 18 May 2020 14:16:19 +0100, Andrew, the notorious, troll-feeding
senile moron, blathered again:


Like Fermacell.

Was that really necessary, you troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE? G

On 16/05/20 12:53, williamwright wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:56, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article op.0kn01ka0wdg98l@glass, says...

I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.



We do many things backwards. We park our cars in the driveway and drive
on the parkways.

Your candidates run for office. Ours stand.

Ours lie.

On Mon, 18 May 2020 04:39:19 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 18/5/20 8:43 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 13:45:58 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 16/5/20 9:54 am, dpb wrote:
On 5/15/2020 6:48 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 23:54:36 +0100, dpb wrote:

On 5/15/2020 4:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...

Why can't it still crack the flush plaster you put over the tape?

The paper if flexible enough to give.

But you have plaster over it! So what if the tape gives, the plaster
over it will still crack.

Not unless the wall moves so much anything else would as well.

100 years applications prove the principle works pretty doggone well.

Surely gypsum board is in use throughout the world; can't be only US.

Yes but we call is plasterboard in the UK. Horrid stuff, try removing
it.

No problem at all--it's trivial to remove or cut into for access for
other work or repair such as electrical or plumbing and then repair
it--certainly far easier than lath and plaster.

--

Lath and plaster, seen entire houses done with that method. Admittedly,
the houses were ancient but it looked like a very time intensive job.
Just think how hard it was to get surfaces flat. Would have taken real
skill.

Therefore we invented wood. No skill required.

Invented wood? What planet are you on?

OCD ****wit. Discovered how to use wood then. Grow up.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 20:55:16 +0100, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2020 13:06:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:




My neighbour's roof caught fire because the incoming electricity feed
(going into the attic!) came loose from it's mounting and shorted. 6
months after I had warned him it was loose and he said "not my
problem, it's up to the electricity board". He lost his whole roof,
including many family photos stored up there, and had builders
repairing it on the insurance for a couple of months, while he rented
another place, also at their expense. I was astonished that the fire
service had no ability to turn off the power, and also wouldn't use
their hoses without turning it off (they could have just earthed
them). 30 minutes was wasted waiting in the middle of the night for
the electricity board to come out and turn it off. Not sure who ended
up paying. He claimed everything from the insurance, but if I was the
insurance company, the electric board and the fire service would have
been in big trouble.

To use water would have been stupid. Easy to say at your keyboard "all
they had to do was" but it is not always that easy. Firemen could have
lost their lives.

As for the electric board, why them? Were they notified of the
potential problem? The homeowner was a jackass either way not caring
about his own safety.
Around here they would just clip the wires at the pole (or pop a pole
fuse in a rural area) with a "hot stick"

Except the British fire brigade are pansies.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:06:00 +0100, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

My neighbour's roof caught fire because the incoming electricity feed
(going into the attic!) came loose from it's mounting and shorted. 6
months after I had warned him it was loose and he said "not my
problem, it's up to the electricity board". He lost his whole roof,
including many family photos stored up there, and had builders
repairing it on the insurance for a couple of months, while he rented
another place, also at their expense. I was astonished that the fire
service had no ability to turn off the power, and also wouldn't use
their hoses without turning it off (they could have just earthed
them). 30 minutes was wasted waiting in the middle of the night for
the electricity board to come out and turn it off. Not sure who ended
up paying. He claimed everything from the insurance, but if I was the
insurance company, the electric board and the fire service would have
been in big trouble.

To use water would have been stupid. Easy to say at your keyboard "all
they had to do was" but it is not always that easy. Firemen could have
lost their lives.

You really are ignorant aren't you? Very easy to earth the end of the hose, if you're scared of only 240 volts.

As for the electric board, why them? Were they notified of the potential problem?

Because they were stupid enough to not give the fire brigade the ability to turn off the power at the pole.

The homeowner was a jackass either way not caring about his own safety.

Or perhaps he wasn't a pussy like you? He however was a jackass for losing part of his property. He was never in any danger, he simply left the building when it caught fire.

On Sat, 16 May 2020 16:36:46 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 16/05/2020 15:58, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2020 06:17:48 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 23:28, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 22:28:17 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 15/05/2020 22:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 21:52:05 +0100, Scott Lurndal

wrote:

Andrew writes:
On 15/05/2020 18:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 15/05/2020 16:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I was astonished to find Americans actually call plasterboard
"drywall" even if it's on a ceiling! So not a wall!

Daft in the first place to say "drywall", as all walls are dry,
unless
made of mud, which is still dry once it's set.

Lath and plaster with horse hair is a wet wall....


They say two by four as well ....

I always thought they called it SheetRock ?.

SheetRock is a brand name.

It's known regionally by different names, gypboard, drywall,
sheetrock,
blueboard/greenboard (mold resistant), etc.

Whatever it's called, it's ****. It's powder held together with
paper.
Use wood for crying out loud. No crumbling, easier to remove,
easier to
screw things into like a picture frame etc.
easier to go up in flames....needs a spread of flame rating ...

Top tip - don't light fires inside your house.
Lets all do that and we can save a fortune on the fire service ....

I've managed to never do so, maybe you should be more careful?

Only house fires I know of a

My friend when I was at school set fire to a chip pan by forgetting it
as on, and simply carried it outside.

My neighbour's roof caught fire because the incoming electricity feed
(going into the attic!) came loose from it's mounting and shorted. 6
months after I had warned him it was loose and he said "not my problem,
it's up to the electricity board". He lost his whole roof, including
many family photos stored up there, and had builders repairing it on the
insurance for a couple of months, while he rented another place, also at
their expense. I was astonished that the fire service had no ability to
turn off the power, and also wouldn't use their hoses without turning it
off (they could have just earthed them). 30 minutes was wasted waiting
in the middle of the night for the electricity board to come out and
turn it off. Not sure who ended up paying. He claimed everything from
the insurance, but if I was the insurance company, the electric board
and the fire service would have been in big trouble.

I was called to a take-a-way fire in a dodgy part of town and the fire
brigade smashed their way in and turned off the main switch and
everything stayed on......they had jumped the meter and main switch .....

This is common in India. Quite openly, outdoors, with croc clips on the wires coming into the building.