On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:07:42 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

Like I said, so you don't use the switch dripping wet just out of the
shower.

Millions of people do so, every day, senile wisenheimer! tsk

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:33:48 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


Trolling?

Not in this case, it¢s a genuine question.

Says the troll! ****ing hilarious! LOL

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 13:21:45 -0800 (PST), , the

Ah. I understand now.

No, you don't, you troll-feeding senile idiot!

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Speed blabbered, again:

FLUSH another 119 lines of sick troll ****

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:40:24 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


What is "electric" in the shower in the first place?

Heating the water.

In most cases NOT, Mr Know-it-all!

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:44:26 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 19:05:05 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:58:22 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 17:02:17 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:52:04 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:26:12 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:19:15 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:33:18 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a cord on the ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Can't be for safety - if you're in the shower and get a shock, if you've managed to get out to reach the switch, you've got away from it anyway.

Can't be to isolate to work on it, there's a fusebox for that.

Don't need to turn it off when you're finished showering, there's a switch on the shower itself.

What is "electric" in the shower in the first place?

The heating element, and in low water pressure areas, possibly a pump.

Strange. We just have central water heaters and pressurized plumbing.
The water heater is required to be bonded and there is enough metal
surface area to bond the water.

We tend to have gas powered boilers that heat the water for sinks and the radiators. But for some reason not the shower - no idea why as they're a similar power rating.

No switching devices or receptacles are allowed in the shower space
and any lights are required to be 8 feet up with a water resistant
"shower trim".

When was the last time a policeman inspected this?

Typically when the house was built or remodeled.

You invite someone in to admire your remodelling?! Do you inform someone to check if you've fitted a new lightbulb correctly aswell?

I don't but when you hire someone, it is usually a good idea to have
it inspected. There are plenty of shady contractors out there.

Why are you in this group if you hire people? Most of us tend to do stuff ourselves. Cheaper, fun, and you get it done the way you want.

Anyway, if I hired someone, I don't care if it meets silly little rules, I just want it to work.

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:43:02 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


Have you ever wondered why you have soooo little success with the ladies?

That's not a lady. She's very unlikely to wearing a tiara in the shower.

Even Liz doesn't. Or the bath either.

Another exercise in senile "humour", poor senile idiot? G

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:59:03 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:10:19 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:35:38 +0000, GB
wrote:

On 10/11/2018 15:33, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a cord on
the
ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Can't be for safety - if you're in the shower and get a shock, if
you've
managed to get out to reach the switch, you've got away from it anyway.

Can't be to isolate to work on it, there's a fusebox for that.

Don't need to turn it off when you're finished showering, there's a
switch on the shower itself.

If I answer this, do you promise to **** off?

It's so somebody not in the shower can isolate it quickly before helping
the poor bugger who is being electrocuted.

Sounds like a "widowmaker"shower in some backwater. Those things are
illegal for good reason in most "civilized" or "developed" countries,
as well as in the USA.

It's illegal to have an electric shower in the USA? I doubt it.

She's talking about the suicide shower head in Big Clive's video.

That link isn't in this part of the thread.

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 23:00:46 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:13:34 -0000, NY wrote:

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And you could have just used the fuse/circuit breaker in the consumer
unit
for that.

About the only advantage of a fuse over a circuit breaker is that you can
physically remove a fuse and keep it with you while you are working on
the
appliance, safe in the knowledge that almost certainly no power can be
restored. A circuit breaker can be restored to the on position by someone
who doesn't know that it is off for a reason.

The other advantage is no nuisance trips. That's one of the main reasons
why I still have fuses in my house. That and I see no point in replacing
the consumer unit with circuit breakers. My tradesman neighbour is
constantly called out to work out why houses keep tripping for no reason.
It's often just something tiny leaking a little bit of current to earth.

I heard of a case years ago of a woman who called out an electrician. The
electrician turned off one circuit and started work. The husband got home
from work, saw that the ring main was off, thought it had tripped and
turned
it back on. The electrician died even though the RCD tripped within the
regulation time, probably because it was an hand-to-hand across-the-chest
shock and he had had a heart attack previously which left him more
susceptible.

So RCDs aren't that good then. Anyway, they don't protect against live to
neutral shocks, which is what my neighbour got when he was up a ladder
fixing a light. No harm from the electricity (healthy people don't die
from 240V),

Some do actually.

********. Funny how I've had several of them, some across the chest.

but he did sprain his ankle falling off the ladder.

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"Max Demian" wrote in message
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On 10/11/2018 15:35, GB wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:33, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a
cord
on
the
ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Can't be for safety - if you're in the shower and get a shock,
if
you've
managed to get out to reach the switch, you've got away from it
anyway.

Can't be to isolate to work on it, there's a fusebox for that.

Don't need to turn it off when you're finished showering,
there's
a
switch on the shower itself.

If I answer this, do you promise to **** off?

It's so somebody not in the shower can isolate it quickly before
helping
the poor bugger who is being electrocuted.

I wonder why there is a requirement that the switch indicate
whether
it
is
on or off even when there is no power, i.e. pull switches need a
0/1
indicator (or similar), not just a neon?

So you can see if its off when it has been turned off in the CU and
you are about to turn it on again in the CU. A neon can't do that.

Under what circumstance would you need this?

If you have been working on the shower, have turned it off in the CU
to do that, and want to be next to the shower when you turn it on
again so you can burn it off again if it looks like you have ****ed
up
what you have done and want to stop it destroying itself so you
can fix what you ****ed up before turning it on again.

Then remember whether you turned the isolator switch off first.

Not necessarily possible if it died and you turned it off to fix it.

Anyway the above doesn't work when the switch is in the hall.

But does when it isnt. It doesn't need to have a pull cord when
its in the hall and you can see the position of the switch.

Easy, turn it on and listen for an explosion, if there is one, you did
it
wrong.

And if there isnt, you may still have done it wrong.

But that wrongness isn't so urgent.

Can still burn it out so you need a new one
and may not do any unfixable damage if
you notice it as soon as its switch on and
switch it off.

Turn it off and buy a new shower.

Makes more sense to turn it on when closer and turn
it off again and redo it properly when there is a problem.

Makes even more sense to do the repair properly in the first place.

Sure, but most have enough of a clue to realise that they arent perfect.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to connect it up so it destroyed it.

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"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:37:29 -0000, George
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On 11/10/2018 5:13 PM, NY wrote:
"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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And you could have just used the fuse/circuit breaker in the consumer
unit for that.

About the only advantage of a fuse over a circuit breaker is that you
can physically remove a fuse and keep it with you while you are working
on the appliance, safe in the knowledge that almost certainly no power
can be restored. A circuit breaker can
be restored to the on position by someone who doesn't know that it is
off for a reason.

I heard of a case years ago of a woman who called out an electrician.
The electrician turned off one circuit and started work. The husband got
home from work, saw that the ring main was off, thought it had tripped
and turned it back on. The electrician
died even though the RCD tripped within the regulation time, probably
because it was an hand-to-hand across-the-chest shock and he had had a
heart attack previously which left him more susceptible.

The husband must have been a real "maroon". Apparently seeing the
Sparky's Electric Service van in the driveway not a big enough clue? =-O

Maybe he lived in one of those dodgy areas where nobody has their own
driveway, and the electrician was parked some distance away?

And why was someone with a heart condition being an electrician?

Likely because that happened as he got older.

The taxi driver who drove me home from the airport
after I had come back from the state capital after having
a stent after the heart attack had also had the same.

His fault for continuing a job he was unfit for.

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On 10/11/2018 20:43, Steven Watkins wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 19:47:37 -0000, ARW

wrote:

On 10/11/2018 19:39, Steven Watkins wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 19:17:30 -0000, ARW

wrote:

On 10/11/2018 16:19, Richard wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:49, GB wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:44, Frank wrote:
On 11/10/2018 10:35 AM, GB wrote:

snip

I smell JWS has nym shifted again.


Indeed, he has. And, as you can see from the post he made
at
the
same
time as you, answering one inane question just gives him
scope
to
ask
a lot of even sillier ones.

Well, as you were first to bite...

It was a teasing question that the pillock asked.

No, I actually want to know why. As yet, no sensible reason
has
been
given.

TBH I have never used my shower pull switch other than to
swap
the
shower and I installed the first shower in 1999.

And you could have just used the fuse/circuit breaker in the
consumer
unit for that.

I could have done but it is on a shared RCD.

That in itself probably breaks some silly regulation.

No regs broken.

But you are a steaming great ****.

I'm a sensible ****.

You're also a steaming great **** when straight from
a hot shower in winter in that frigid island of yours.

I don't have hot showers.

Yes, you actually are that stupid.

I'm not a girl.

Corse you are, only girls and poofters shave their legs.

********.

Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just -- on it in front of
it,
poofter.

I don't have a sig.

Obvious lie.

I haven't had a sig for about 5 months, since my newsreader ****ed up and I reinstalled it without bothering with a sig generator.

anyone who doesn't want to look like an ape.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying something.

Look at an orangutan. Look at yourself. Which has more hair? Which is
evolved more?

Irrelevant to the fact that only girls and poofters shave their legs.

It's very relevant. More hair means you're further back in the evolutionary timeline.

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:42:14 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying something.

An even sillier troll from you than you usually manage, senile Rot, and
that's saying something!

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:16:12 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

FLUSH another 128 lines of the two subnormal idiots' latest idiotic troll
**** unread

....and much better air in here again!

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On 11/10/18 3:32 PM, Steven Watkins wrote:

[snip]

I don't need a switch. I use regular water rather than high-voltage
water.

Pussy.

You can use HV water as long as you've verified the integrity of your
plumbing isolation devices :-)

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:00:46 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


fixing a light. No harm from the electricity (healthy people don't die
from 240V),

Some do actually.

Decrepit seniles like you are prone to it, senile Rot!

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:14:51 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

And why was someone with a heart condition being an electrician?

Likely because that happened as he got older.

The taxi driver who drove me home from the airport
after I had come back from the state capital after having
a stent after the heart attack had also had the same.

Let's all hope that you will have the same too, soon, senile Rot! BG

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:02:52 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

FLUSH another 113 lines of the usual idiotic troll **** unread again

....and nothing's left! LOL

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 17:44:26 -0500, , the disgusting,
troll-feeding senile Yankietard, blathered again:


You invite someone in to admire your remodelling?! Do you inform
someone to check if you've fitted a new lightbulb correctly aswell?

I don't but when you hire someone, it is usually a good idea to have
it inspected. There are plenty of shady contractors out there.

The unwashed Scottish ******'s cock just seems to taste too good to you to
for you to be able to resist sucking him off, time and again, eh, senile
Yankietard? G

"devnull" wrote in message
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On 11/10/18 6:09 PM, Aaron wrote:
Widowmakers are a different thing entirely with
an electrical element in the shower head itself,
with the electrical connections to the element
actually in the water. Those are in fact allowed
in quite a bit of europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNjA0aee07k

Christmas is coming up. I might get one of these for the mother-in-law.

The dont actually kill anyone, regardless of the name
and you clearly want a widowermaker anyway.

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"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:10:19 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:35:38 +0000, GB
wrote:

On 10/11/2018 15:33, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a cord on
the
ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Can't be for safety - if you're in the shower and get a shock, if
you've
managed to get out to reach the switch, you've got away from it
anyway.

Can't be to isolate to work on it, there's a fusebox for that.

Don't need to turn it off when you're finished showering, there's a
switch on the shower itself.

If I answer this, do you promise to **** off?

It's so somebody not in the shower can isolate it quickly before
helping
the poor bugger who is being electrocuted.

Sounds like a "widowmaker"shower in some backwater. Those things are
illegal for good reason in most "civilized" or "developed" countries,
as well as in the USA.

It's illegal to have an electric shower in the USA? I doubt it.

She's talking about the suicide shower head in Big Clive's video.

That link isn't in this part of the thread.

That was clearly a comment to you.

"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 23:00:46 -0000, Rod Speed
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"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:13:34 -0000, NY wrote:

"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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And you could have just used the fuse/circuit breaker in the consumer
unit
for that.

About the only advantage of a fuse over a circuit breaker is that you
can
physically remove a fuse and keep it with you while you are working on
the
appliance, safe in the knowledge that almost certainly no power can be
restored. A circuit breaker can be restored to the on position by
someone
who doesn't know that it is off for a reason.

The other advantage is no nuisance trips. That's one of the main
reasons
why I still have fuses in my house. That and I see no point in
replacing
the consumer unit with circuit breakers. My tradesman neighbour is
constantly called out to work out why houses keep tripping for no
reason.
It's often just something tiny leaking a little bit of current to earth.

I heard of a case years ago of a woman who called out an electrician.
The
electrician turned off one circuit and started work. The husband got
home
from work, saw that the ring main was off, thought it had tripped and
turned
it back on. The electrician died even though the RCD tripped within the
regulation time, probably because it was an hand-to-hand
across-the-chest
shock and he had had a heart attack previously which left him more
susceptible.

So RCDs aren't that good then. Anyway, they don't protect against live
to
neutral shocks, which is what my neighbour got when he was up a ladder
fixing a light. No harm from the electricity (healthy people don't die
from 240V),

Some do actually.

********.

Fact.

Funny how I've had several of them, some across the chest.

No one said it was certain to kill you. And you arent a healthy person
anyway.

but he did sprain his ankle falling off the ladder.

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"Max Demian" wrote in message
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On 10/11/2018 15:35, GB wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:33, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a
cord
on
the
ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Can't be for safety - if you're in the shower and get a shock,
if
you've
managed to get out to reach the switch, you've got away from
it
anyway.

Can't be to isolate to work on it, there's a fusebox for that.

Don't need to turn it off when you're finished showering,
there's
a
switch on the shower itself.

If I answer this, do you promise to **** off?

It's so somebody not in the shower can isolate it quickly
before
helping
the poor bugger who is being electrocuted.

I wonder why there is a requirement that the switch indicate
whether
it
is
on or off even when there is no power, i.e. pull switches need a
0/1
indicator (or similar), not just a neon?

So you can see if its off when it has been turned off in the CU
and
you are about to turn it on again in the CU. A neon can't do
that.

Under what circumstance would you need this?

If you have been working on the shower, have turned it off in the
CU
to do that, and want to be next to the shower when you turn it on
again so you can burn it off again if it looks like you have ****ed
up
what you have done and want to stop it destroying itself so you
can fix what you ****ed up before turning it on again.

Then remember whether you turned the isolator switch off first.

Not necessarily possible if it died and you turned it off to fix it.

Anyway the above doesn't work when the switch is in the hall.

But does when it isnt. It doesn't need to have a pull cord when
its in the hall and you can see the position of the switch.

Easy, turn it on and listen for an explosion, if there is one, you did
it
wrong.

And if there isnt, you may still have done it wrong.

But that wrongness isn't so urgent.

Can still burn it out so you need a new one
and may not do any unfixable damage if
you notice it as soon as its switch on and
switch it off.

Turn it off and buy a new shower.

Makes more sense to turn it on when closer and turn
it off again and redo it properly when there is a problem.

Makes even more sense to do the repair properly in the first place.

Sure, but most have enough of a clue to realise that they arent perfect.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to connect it up so it destroyed it.

Wrong, as always.

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:37:29 -0000, George
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On 11/10/2018 5:13 PM, NY wrote:
"Steven Watkins" wrote in message
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And you could have just used the fuse/circuit breaker in the consumer
unit for that.

About the only advantage of a fuse over a circuit breaker is that you
can physically remove a fuse and keep it with you while you are
working
on the appliance, safe in the knowledge that almost certainly no power
can be restored. A circuit breaker can
be restored to the on position by someone who doesn't know that it is
off for a reason.

I heard of a case years ago of a woman who called out an electrician.
The electrician turned off one circuit and started work. The husband
got
home from work, saw that the ring main was off, thought it had tripped
and turned it back on. The electrician
died even though the RCD tripped within the regulation time, probably
because it was an hand-to-hand across-the-chest shock and he had had a
heart attack previously which left him more susceptible.

The husband must have been a real "maroon". Apparently seeing the
Sparky's Electric Service van in the driveway not a big enough clue?
=-O

Maybe he lived in one of those dodgy areas where nobody has their own
driveway, and the electrician was parked some distance away?

And why was someone with a heart condition being an electrician?

Likely because that happened as he got older.

The taxi driver who drove me home from the airport
after I had come back from the state capital after having
a stent after the heart attack had also had the same.

His fault for continuing a job he was unfit for.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

And the original claim that you are more likely
to die if you get electrocuted if you have a
heart condition is just plain wrong too.

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On 10/11/2018 20:43, Steven Watkins wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 19:47:37 -0000, ARW

wrote:

On 10/11/2018 19:39, Steven Watkins wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 19:17:30 -0000, ARW

wrote:

On 10/11/2018 16:19, Richard wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:49, GB wrote:
On 10/11/2018 15:44, Frank wrote:
On 11/10/2018 10:35 AM, GB wrote:

snip

I smell JWS has nym shifted again.


Indeed, he has. And, as you can see from the post he made
at
the
same
time as you, answering one inane question just gives him
scope
to
ask
a lot of even sillier ones.

Well, as you were first to bite...

It was a teasing question that the pillock asked.

No, I actually want to know why. As yet, no sensible reason
has
been
given.

TBH I have never used my shower pull switch other than to
swap
the
shower and I installed the first shower in 1999.

And you could have just used the fuse/circuit breaker in the
consumer
unit for that.

I could have done but it is on a shared RCD.

That in itself probably breaks some silly regulation.

No regs broken.

But you are a steaming great ****.

I'm a sensible ****.

You're also a steaming great **** when straight from
a hot shower in winter in that frigid island of yours.

I don't have hot showers.

Yes, you actually are that stupid.

I'm not a girl.

Corse you are, only girls and poofters shave their legs.

********.

Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just -- on it in front
of
it,
poofter.

I don't have a sig.

Obvious lie.

I haven't had a sig for about 5 months, since my newsreader ****ed up and
I reinstalled it without bothering with a sig generator.

Everyone can see that that is your entirely appropriate sig.

anyone who doesn't want to look like an ape.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying something.

Look at an orangutan. Look at yourself. Which has more hair? Which is
evolved more?

Irrelevant to the fact that only girls and poofters shave their legs.

It's very relevant. More hair means you're further back in the
evolutionary timeline.

Irrelevant to the fact that only girls and poofters shave their legs.

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 17:53:04 -0600, hah, yet another braindead,
troll-feeding senile Yankietard, driveled:

I don't need a switch. I use regular water rather than high-voltage
water.

Pussy.

You can use HV water as long as you've verified the integrity of your
plumbing isolation devices :-)

....and another braindead senile idiot can't resist sucking off the unwashed
Scottish ****** and attention whore! BG

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:05:09 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

No one said it was certain to kill you. And you arent a healthy person
anyway.

Neither of the two of you is! At least not MENTALLY!

--
Sqwertz to Rot Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:08:07 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

His fault for continuing a job he was unfit for.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

And the original claim that you are more likely
to die if you get electrocuted if you have a
heart condition is just plain wrong too.

You must be ever SO thankful to have found this little idiot who is willing
to engage in "conversations" with you, eh, you miserable senile cretin that
everyone in RL seems to ignore! BG

--
Bill Wright to Rot Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****."
MID:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:01:13 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

Widowmakers are a different thing entirely with
an electrical element in the shower head itself,
with the electrical connections to the element
actually in the water. Those are in fact allowed
in quite a bit of europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNjA0aee07k

Christmas is coming up. I might get one of these for the mother-in-law.

The don¢t actually kill anyone, regardless of the name
and you clearly want a widowermaker anyway.

So, the good people here still have to think up another Christmas present
for you, senile Rot!

--
"Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed:
"You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad
little ignorant ****."
MID:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:06:01 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

FLUSH another 131 lines of sick troll ****

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:03:40 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

FLUSH yet more troll ****

--
Another retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rot:

Senile Rot: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own ****?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rot: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the ****."

MID:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:23:55 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:10:19 -0000, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:35:38 +0000, GB
wrote:

On 10/11/2018 15:33, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a cord on the
ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Can't be for safety - if you're in the shower and get a shock, if you've
managed to get out to reach the switch, you've got away from it anyway.

Can't be to isolate to work on it, there's a fusebox for that.

Don't need to turn it off when you're finished showering, there's a
switch on the shower itself.

If I answer this, do you promise to **** off?

It's so somebody not in the shower can isolate it quickly before helping
the poor bugger who is being electrocuted.

Sounds like a "widowmaker"shower in some backwater. Those things are
illegal for good reason in most "civilized" or "developed" countries,
as well as in the USA.

It's illegal to have an electric shower in the USA? I doubt it.

What is an electric shower?

In our home built about 1952, we had a light in the shower stall, but it
was in the ceiling. It didn't seem dangerous. The switch was outside,
unreachable if you were inside the shower.

Are those still legal in the US?

But what is an electric shower? Like an electric storm?

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:09:02 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:59:17 -0000, trader_4 wrote:

On Saturday, November 10, 2018 at 10:33:19 AM UTC-5, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a cord on the ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Why would anyone have a shower activated with a switch? I've lived in many places, traveled to many countries. Some showers have lights that are
on switches, but not the shower itself. The only place I saw such a shower
was on my boat and it's a 12V pump.

Don't tell me you still use the kind you shove on the bath tap? We have electric showers in the UK now.

You could probably find one of those on ebay but I haven't seen any for
30 years.

In the USA there are showers and in most bathtubs one has the choice
between a bath and a shower. There used to be two sets of handles but
now everyplace has one set, hot and cold, and a diverter valve to choose
between the bath tap and the shower. Everything else is in the wall.

What's an electric shower?

"micky" wrote in message
...
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:23:55 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:10:19 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:35:38 +0000, GB
wrote:

On 10/11/2018 15:33, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a cord on
the
ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Can't be for safety - if you're in the shower and get a shock, if
you've
managed to get out to reach the switch, you've got away from it
anyway.

Can't be to isolate to work on it, there's a fusebox for that.

Don't need to turn it off when you're finished showering, there's a
switch on the shower itself.

If I answer this, do you promise to **** off?

It's so somebody not in the shower can isolate it quickly before
helping
the poor bugger who is being electrocuted.

Sounds like a "widowmaker"shower in some backwater. Those things are
illegal for good reason in most "civilized" or "developed" countries,
as well as in the USA.

It's illegal to have an electric shower in the USA? I doubt it.

What is an electric shower?

It heats the water. Probably not practical there given the 115V
system you lot have. You need a pretty powerful heater to heat
it quickly enough so the hot water is hot enough. Easier to do
storage heaters instead.

In our home built about 1952, we had a light in the shower stall,
but it was in the ceiling. It didn't seem dangerous. The switch
was outside, unreachable if you were inside the shower.

Are those still legal in the US?

Yes as long as the bulb is high enough and doesn't get wet.

But what is an electric shower? Like an electric storm?

Nothing like and not really feasible on a 115V system.

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:59:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"micky" wrote in message
.. .
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:23:55 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:10:19 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:35:38 +0000, GB
wrote:

On 10/11/2018 15:33, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a cord on
the
ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Can't be for safety - if you're in the shower and get a shock, if
you've
managed to get out to reach the switch, you've got away from it
anyway.

Can't be to isolate to work on it, there's a fusebox for that.

Don't need to turn it off when you're finished showering, there's a
switch on the shower itself.

If I answer this, do you promise to **** off?

It's so somebody not in the shower can isolate it quickly before
helping
the poor bugger who is being electrocuted.

Sounds like a "widowmaker"shower in some backwater. Those things are
illegal for good reason in most "civilized" or "developed" countries,
as well as in the USA.

It's illegal to have an electric shower in the USA? I doubt it.

What is an electric shower?

It heats the water. Probably not practical there given the 115V
system you lot have. You need a pretty powerful heater to heat
it quickly enough so the hot water is hot enough. Easier to do
storage heaters instead.

In our home built about 1952, we had a light in the shower stall,
but it was in the ceiling. It didn't seem dangerous. The switch
was outside, unreachable if you were inside the shower.

Are those still legal in the US?

Yes as long as the bulb is high enough and doesn't get wet.

But what is an electric shower? Like an electric storm?

Nothing like and not really feasible on a 115V system.

Fair enough. Thanx

On 11/11/2018 02:39, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:09:02 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:59:17 -0000, trader_4 wrote:

On Saturday, November 10, 2018 at 10:33:19 AM UTC-5, Steven Watkins wrote:
Why do houses have a switch to turn the shower off, either a cord on the ceiling or a switch in the hall?

Why would anyone have a shower activated with a switch? I've lived in many places, traveled to many countries. Some showers have lights that are
on switches, but not the shower itself. The only place I saw such a shower
was on my boat and it's a 12V pump.

Don't tell me you still use the kind you shove on the bath tap? We have electric showers in the UK now.

You could probably find one of those on ebay but I haven't seen any for
30 years.

In the USA there are showers and in most bathtubs one has the choice
between a bath and a shower. There used to be two sets of handles but
now everyplace has one set, hot and cold, and a diverter valve to choose
between the bath tap and the shower. Everything else is in the wall.

What's an electric shower?


https://www.soakology.co.uk/how-to-b...-need-to-know/

Not to be confused with an eclectic shower, which is what this group is.

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:36:35 -0500, micky, yet another brain dead,
troll-feeding senile Yankietard, blathered:


Are those still legal in the US?

But what is an electric shower? Like an electric storm?

Yeah, ask a TROLL to give you proper answers, you senile idiot! LOL

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:59:31 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


In our home built about 1952, we had a light in the shower stall,
but it was in the ceiling. It didn't seem dangerous. The switch
was outside, unreachable if you were inside the shower.

Are those still legal in the US?

Yes as long as the bulb is high enough and doesn't get wet.

HOW high is enough, senile Mr Know-it-all? Who but you would know! BG

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:39:46 -0500, micky, yet another braindamaged,
troll-feeding, senile Yankietard, blathered:


In the USA there are showers and in most bathtubs one has the choice
between a bath and a shower. There used to be two sets of handles but
now everyplace has one set, hot and cold, and a diverter valve to choose
between the bath tap and the shower. Everything else is in the wall.

What's an electric shower?

Why not ask Google? Why ask and feed a KNOWN sociopathic troll, you
braindead senile Yankietard?