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I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I want
this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight, but I
find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James


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I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. *I want
this to be able to haul *K-1 *kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. * I *suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at *Harbour Freight, but I
find nothing like this.

Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James


55 gallons of kerosene weighs 375 lb. a steel drum weighs 44lb,
plastic weighs 22 lb. 419 vs 397 wont make moving it easier. A 30
gallon plastic drum would be easier at near 226lb
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James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I want
this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.


As someone else noted, when it's full "not so much"...

Virtually every place has multitude of commercial locations that have
barrels routinely. Check w/ the various food processing facilities,
etc.; most of them use almost exclusively plastic these days. The
second-hand freight/salvage/etc. places generally have market for them;
if it's a place of any size undoubtedly there are a few individuals as
well on the Craig's list or local radio swap show, etc. Flea markets,
etc., another good bet.

As the other poster said, you'll probably find 30 gal much more suitable
for handling.

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James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I want
this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight, but I
find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James



Check with your local lawn and landscape people. Many of the products
used in that industry come in plastic 55's. Like roundup and
fertilizers, and some pesticides. If they're not totally anal retentive
(like the one i worked for) they may let you have one. We used to cut
the tops of and use them for trash cans. But the fert supervisor would
have a fit, 'cause "they're supposed to be disposed of properly". We
would just tell him to **** of and go about what we were doing. G


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dpb wrote:
James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I
want this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters.
I suppose I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would
be so much lighter.


As someone else noted, when it's full "not so much"...

Virtually every place has multitude of commercial locations that have
barrels routinely. Check w/ the various food processing facilities,
etc.; most of them use almost exclusively plastic these days. The
second-hand freight/salvage/etc. places generally have market for them;
if it's a place of any size undoubtedly there are a few individuals as
well on the Craig's list or local radio swap show, etc. Flea markets,
etc., another good bet.

As the other poster said, you'll probably find 30 gal much more suitable
for handling.

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I'll throw in that if OP is using kero in bulk quantities, he either
needs a farmer-style elevated tank (if legal in his area) with bulk
delivery,
or one of those purpose-built truck bed tanks with a pump and hose.
Decanting from a barrel without a pump is not trivial, and when you
spill it and it gets in the water, the fines are expensive. Metal
barrels rust and leak, and plastic barrels weaken from UV and cold. A
unexpected split in a near-full barrel could ruin OP's whole day.

Why reinvent the wheel? There is proven off-the-shelf technology for
this application.

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James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I
want this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I
suppose I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it
would be so much lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight,
but I find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James


I see 'em all the time on Craigslist. Cheap.


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aemeijers wrote:
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I'll throw in that if OP is using kero in bulk quantities, he either
needs a farmer-style elevated tank (if legal in his area) with bulk
delivery,
or one of those purpose-built truck bed tanks with a pump and hose.
Decanting from a barrel without a pump is not trivial, ...


So use a pump...

A hand barrel pump is $30 or thereabouts.

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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:42:13 -0600, "HeyBub"
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James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I
want this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I
suppose I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it
would be so much lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight,
but I find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James


I see 'em all the time on Craigslist. Cheap.


Plus, you can get one with a hooker inside.

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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:42:13 -0600, "HeyBub"
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James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic.
I want this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil
heaters. I suppose I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic
as it
would be so much lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight,
but I find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James


I see 'em all the time on Craigslist. Cheap.


Plus, you can get one with a hooker inside.


It's called a "Barrel of Fun," which, I'm sure, is more fun than a barrel of
monkeys.




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Thanks for all the replies. I would only have to "handle or move" the tank
when empty. I take my trailer to the fuel vendor, and put the gas in the
barrel, and then back to my remote cabin, and would pump it out with a 12
volt pump that runs off the Jeep battery.

I do see that the weight of the steel drum is not that much more than the
plastic, yet the plastic would still be even easier for me to pick up and
throw on the trailer.

From the info posted, the steel drums are subject to rust and leaks, and the
plastic ones suffer from uv rays and severe cold. I will take all of this
into account.

Some very good points were posted on this, I appreciate them all, and I will
make note of all the points.

My other consideration is what kind of top I would have on the barrel that I
would buy. I suppose if I got the right top, I could make some sort of
home-made "mount" for the 12 volt pump.

Thanks again to all.

James


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On Mar 7, 11:56*am, "James" no wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. *I want
this to be able to haul *K-1 *kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. * I *suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at *Harbour Freight, but I
find nothing like this.

Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James


Laundries get their detergent in 55gal plastic drums. I've gotten a
few from them.

Red
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On Mar 7, 11:56*am, "James" no wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. *I want
this to be able to haul *K-1 *kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. * I *suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at *Harbour Freight, but I
find nothing like this.

Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James


Find a carwash and find out who suppliles them with soap & such. I
have a friend in the business, he is happy to give them away, they
build up so fast, if he doesn't give them away they make his place an
eye sore.
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James wrote:
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My other consideration is what kind of top I would have on the barrel that I
would buy. I suppose if I got the right top, I could make some sort of
home-made "mount" for the 12 volt pump.


Get a barrel (actually a drum) that still has the top and bungs. Barrel
pumps are made to fit the bung holes...

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On Mar 7, 2:25*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. *I want
this to be able to haul *K-1 *kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. * I *suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.


I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at *Harbour Freight, but I
find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?


Thanks


James


Check with your local lawn and landscape people. *Many of the products
used in that industry come in plastic 55's. *Like roundup and
fertilizers, and some pesticides. *If they're not totally anal retentive
(like the one i worked for) they may let you have one. *We used to cut
the tops of and use them for trash cans. *But the fert supervisor would
have a fit, 'cause "they're supposed to be disposed of properly". *We
would just tell him to **** of and go about what we were doing. *G

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Do not reuse any barrel that has had pesticide, hebricide or other
nasty chemicals.

Remains of the previous chemicals will leach into your kerosene and
poison you when you heat with it.

TMT


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The advantage of the carwash is that their containers are
much more manageable at 20 gallons. Such a place near
me regularly puts them out, with a felt-tip marking of "FREE".
They disappear within a day. And the contents are usually
water-soluble, so they can be washed out to get rid of the
foaming agents.
Also, they regularly have 10 gallon containers, and all the
containers have caps that are easily manageable.
Obviously, if your containers are in the sun much, it wouldn't
hurt to replace them before they get brittle and crack, and
it sure is nice for them to be free.

On Mar 7, 10:46*pm, Eric in North TX wrote:

Find a carwash and find out who suppliles them with soap & such. I
have a friend in the business, he is happy to give them away, they
build up so fast, if he doesn't give them away they make his place an
eye sore.


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On Mar 7, 3:38*pm, aemeijers wrote:
dpb wrote:
James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. *I
want this to be able to haul *K-1 *kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. *
I *suppose I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would
be so much lighter.


As someone else noted, when it's full "not so much"...


Virtually every place has multitude of commercial locations that have
barrels routinely. *Check w/ the various food processing facilities,
etc.; most of them use almost exclusively plastic these days. *The
second-hand freight/salvage/etc. places generally have market for them;
if it's a place of any size undoubtedly there are a few individuals as
well on the Craig's list or local radio swap show, etc. *Flea markets,
etc., another good bet.


As the other poster said, you'll probably find 30 gal much more suitable
for handling.


--


I'll throw in that if OP is using kero in bulk quantities, he either
needs a farmer-style elevated tank (if legal in his area) with bulk
delivery,
or one of those purpose-built truck bed tanks with a pump and hose.
Decanting from a barrel without a pump is not trivial, and when you
spill it and it gets in the water, the fines are expensive. Metal
barrels rust and leak, and plastic barrels weaken from UV and cold. A
unexpected split in a near-full barrel could ruin OP's whole day.

Why reinvent the wheel? There is proven off-the-shelf technology for
this application.

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Concur with that suggestion. Take your checkbook and head down to Farm
& Fleet, Tractor Supply, any major farm supply store. Farmers handle
fuel routinely and their equipment is time proven. Another alternative
is the automotive equipment stores. Look for things like the 'Gas
Buggy" that are complete with a pump and hose. Expect to pay over $300
for one, but keep in mind your safety and health depend on not
handling hazards in foolish fashion. Good luck.

Joe
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James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I
want this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters.
I suppose I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would
be so much lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight,
but I find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James



Check with your local lawn and landscape people. Many of the products
used in that industry come in plastic 55's. Like roundup and
fertilizers, and some pesticides. If they're not totally anal retentive
(like the one i worked for) they may let you have one. We used to cut
the tops of and use them for trash cans. But the fert supervisor would
have a fit, 'cause "they're supposed to be disposed of properly". We
would just tell him to **** of and go about what we were doing. G


s

I think that is a bad plan because the pesticides will dissolve in the
kerosene which the OP said he is burning in heaters.
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James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I want
this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.
I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight, but I
find nothing like this.
Any ideas of a source for this ?
Thanks
James

Check with your local lawn and landscape people. Many of the products
used in that industry come in plastic 55's. Like roundup and
fertilizers, and some pesticides. If they're not totally anal retentive
(like the one i worked for) they may let you have one. We used to cut
the tops of and use them for trash cans. But the fert supervisor would
have a fit, 'cause "they're supposed to be disposed of properly". We
would just tell him to **** of and go about what we were doing. G

s- Hide quoted text -

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Do not reuse any barrel that has had pesticide, hebricide or other
nasty chemicals.

Remains of the previous chemicals will leach into your kerosene and
poison you when you heat with it.

TMT


LMMFAO!!! ya, you're one of them. A simple rinse with soap and water
cleans the barrel. DuH!


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I make wine. I buy juice that is shipped from California in 55 gallon
plastic drums. The place I buy from sells the empty barrels; I got one
a few years ago for $10. So if someone near you sells juice to
winemakers, see if they will sell you an empty one. More and more,
however, they are shipping the juice in six gallon pails.

James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I want
this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight, but I
find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James


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James wrote:
I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I
want this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I
suppose I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it
would be so much lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight,
but I find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?



Anywhere near San Antonio? http://www.davethebarrelman.net/

Dave in Houston


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no thanks, located in fla

thanks !!

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James wrote:
no thanks, located in fla

thanks !!

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Call "Dave the barrel man" and ask if he has a Florida brother in the
business...




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I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of
plastic. I want this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for
my oil heaters. I suppose I could use a metal drum but prefer
the plastic as it would be so much lighter.

I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour
Freight, but I find nothing like this.


Any ideas of a source for this ?

Thanks

James



Did a google on 55 gal plastic drum. This is first on e that looked
interesting:
http://www.bayteccontainers.com/

Are you having the kerosene delivered or going to get it. Remember,
once the drum is full of kerosene, there won't be much difference in
weight between a metal drum and a plastic one. You might want to
google for some of the kerosene heater sites. They have some
interesting info about storage and transport as well.
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Thanks ww !!



Or you can try these guys...

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/default.asp
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Thanks ww !!



Or you can try these guys...

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/default.asp


Holy crap, Batman! Double the cost of Walmart. PLUS FREIGHT!

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"Robert Neville" wrote in message
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"James" no wrote:

Thanks ww !!



Or you can try these guys...

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/default.asp


Holy crap, Batman! Double the cost of Walmart. PLUS FREIGHT!

Steve


Yes, but the owner of US Plastics loves Jesus. That's gotta be worth
something, right?


"United States Plastic Corporation is a different type of company.*
When our company was being established more than 50 years ago, the
founder, Dr. R. Stanley Tam, made a promise to God that if God would
prosper this business he would honor God in any way he could.

God has consistently done His part and, with His help, we do ours to the
best of our ability.*Mr. Tam has placed 100% of the ownership of*United
States Plastic Corp.*into a foundation whose purpose is to establish
churches in third world countries.*The dividends paid by the company go
to share the Good News of the life changing experience possible for
anyone.

We believe in the possibility of a person linking his/her life to God,
and we believe that Godıs Word can produce a spiritual new birth for
anyone who seeks Him and follows His plan."
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Jasprt2 wrote:
Uh, "haul" ...like in a truck?
There are regs against that (DOT) in the U.S. which is why you can't find
any ready made poly transition tanks. I think 5gals is the max for poly
fuel containers (in the US)
If you have the space on your property you might consider a large metal
storage tank (100 to 1000 gallons) and fuel companies deliver to you, so
the transport is not an issue. Sometimes cheaper as well.



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I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I
want
this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I
suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.


I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight, but
I
find nothing like this.



Any ideas of a source for this ?


Thanks


James






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On 9/7/2011 10:08 PM, Jasprt2 wrote:
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Jasprt2 wrote:
Uh, "haul" ...like in a truck?
There are regs against that (DOT) in the U.S. which is why you can't find
any ready made poly transition tanks. I think 5gals is the max for poly
fuel containers (in the US)
If you have the space on your property you might consider a large metal
storage tank (100 to 1000 gallons) and fuel companies deliver to you, so
the transport is not an issue. Sometimes cheaper as well.



James wrote:




I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I
want
this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I
suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.


I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight, but
I
find nothing like this.



Any ideas of a source for this ?


Thanks


James



The best solution is to go to a place such as TSC and get a proper
transfer tank, and a pump to go with it. A poly tank is not an viable
option (as Jasprt2 says.)

Realize that even 55 gallons will be heavy, and difficult to move.
Kerosene weighs almost 7 pounds per gallon, so a 55 gallon tank would
hold about 385 pounds of fuel, plus the weight of the container. You
want to handle almost 400 pounds of flammable substance in a plastic
container? (I don't think so!) The weight difference between plastic and
steel is not that great considering the weight of the fuel inside.

TSC, Northern Tool, and a few other companies are your friend here.

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Original date of message March 7, 2009.

Jasprt2 wrote:
Uh, "haul" ...like in a truck?
There are regs against that (DOT) in the U.S. which is why you can't find
any ready made poly transition tanks. I think 5gals is the max for poly
fuel containers (in the US)
If you have the space on your property you might consider a large metal
storage tank (100 to 1000 gallons) and fuel companies deliver to you, so
the transport is not an issue. Sometimes cheaper as well.



James wrote:




I would like to own a 55 gallon drum , preferably made of plastic. I
want
this to be able to haul K-1 kerosene fuel for my oil heaters. I
suppose
I could use a metal drum but prefer the plastic as it would be so much
lighter.


I have looked at Northern Industrial Tools and at Harbour Freight, but
I
find nothing like this.



Any ideas of a source for this ?


Thanks


James






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James, while the other replies have merit and should be considered, I have
used two plastic 55 gal. drums for hauling K1 oil for several years now.
I haul them on a small 4 x 6 trailer, and use a small 12volt pump
designed to handle fuels, which runs off my car battery, using extended
jumper cables. If you care to send me your email offline, I can send you
some pictures !!

The best place to get these 55 gal containers is at restaurants. All kinds
of liquids are shipped in them, things like orange juice concentrate, other
juices, etc. Call (or better yet, visit) some restaurants, and if you
find a friendly owner or manager, you might pick up several for free.

By all means, do take care, and follow all safety norms and laws.

James


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On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:55:49 -0400, "James"
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James, while the other replies have merit and should be considered, I have
used two plastic 55 gal. drums for hauling K1 oil for several years now.
I haul them on a small 4 x 6 trailer, and use a small 12volt pump
designed to handle fuels, which runs off my car battery, using extended
jumper cables. If you care to send me your email offline, I can send you
some pictures !!

The best place to get these 55 gal containers is at restaurants. All kinds
of liquids are shipped in them, things like orange juice concentrate, other
juices, etc. Call (or better yet, visit) some restaurants, and if you
find a friendly owner or manager, you might pick up several for free.

By all means, do take care, and follow all safety norms and laws.

James

Carrying fuel on the road in non-approved portable containers is
illegal. Storing it in non-approved containers is unwize at best.
Approved portable Gasoline containers MUST be red.
Approved portable Kerosene containers are generally Yellow or orange.
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On 9/9/2011 10:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:55:49 -0400,
wrote:

James, while the other replies have merit and should be considered, I have
used two plastic 55 gal. drums for hauling K1 oil for several years now.
I haul them on a small 4 x 6 trailer, and use a small 12volt pump
designed to handle fuels, which runs off my car battery, using extended
jumper cables. If you care to send me your email offline, I can send you
some pictures !!

The best place to get these 55 gal containers is at restaurants. All kinds
of liquids are shipped in them, things like orange juice concentrate, other
juices, etc. Call (or better yet, visit) some restaurants, and if you
find a friendly owner or manager, you might pick up several for free.

By all means, do take care, and follow all safety norms and laws.

James


Carrying fuel on the road in non-approved portable containers is
illegal. Storing it in non-approved containers is unwize at best.
Approved portable Gasoline containers MUST be red.
Approved portable Kerosene containers are generally Yellow or orange.


I never saw a yellow kerosene container. Out of curiosity blitz shows a
yellow container but they note that it is a diesel fuel container. I
have never seen the yellow one stocked anywhere or in use. They make a
blue can which is noted as a kerosene container. Blue is the only color
I have seen used for that purpose.

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