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I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless
kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message news I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The proper clips have a screw in them that tightens against the counter top. If you cannot find them glue it with silicone adhesive. WW |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message news I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The proper clips have a screw in them that tightens against the counter top. If you cannot find them glue it with silicone adhesive. WW Thanks, but that's not the issue. The problem is attaching the clips to the SINK. |
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m... . . . Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The proper clips have a screw in them that tightens against the counter top. If you cannot find them glue it with silicone adhesive. WW Thanks, but that's not the issue. The problem is attaching the clips to the SINK. What did the vendor of the sink tell you? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Don Phillipson wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message m... . . . Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The proper clips have a screw in them that tightens against the counter top. If you cannot find them glue it with silicone adhesive. WW Thanks, but that's not the issue. The problem is attaching the clips to the SINK. What did the vendor of the sink tell you? Nothing. Bought on clearance sale a dozen or more years ago. Sink is okay, I replaced the counter. In its immediately preceding life, the sink wasn't anchored at all, depending, I suppose, on gravity - or goodwill - to keep it in place. This arrangement allowed some small amount of moisture to infiltrate the particle-board substrate with predictable results - hence the rebuild. Now, I'm trying to do the job right and am flummoxed over holding the sink down. Fooey! |
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HeyBub wrote:
Don Phillipson wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message m... . . . Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The proper clips have a screw in them that tightens against the counter top. If you cannot find them glue it with silicone adhesive. WW Thanks, but that's not the issue. The problem is attaching the clips to the SINK. What did the vendor of the sink tell you? Nothing. Bought on clearance sale a dozen or more years ago. Sink is okay, I replaced the counter. In its immediately preceding life, the sink wasn't anchored at all, depending, I suppose, on gravity - or goodwill - to keep it in place. This arrangement allowed some small amount of moisture to infiltrate the particle-board substrate with predictable results - hence the rebuild. Now, I'm trying to do the job right and am flummoxed over holding the sink down. Fooey! As someone else already said, simply use a silicone bead if available clamps won't work satisfactorily. Use some weight as the brads "until the glue dries"... I've seen at least one sink that the clip rail has holes punched in it and the clips have a hook for them. |
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There are myriad clips made to adapt to sinks of all rim configurations. Here are just a few - http://d21c.com/krnspn/PIC2/sinkclips.html Guess I'd have to lug that bad boy to a plumbing supply house, and ask the counter man what he's got to git 'er done. Joe |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:46:07 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote: Now, I'm trying to do the job right and am flummoxed over holding the sink down. Fooey! Any of these look helpful? Sink Rim Mounting Clips http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sinkclips.html |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:46:07 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: Now, I'm trying to do the job right and am flummoxed over holding the sink down. Fooey! Any of these look helpful? Sink Rim Mounting Clips http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sinkclips.html Sadly, no. I bought a pack of #65, but there's nothing for the the "J" hook to grab. Woe is me. |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:12:48 -0600, HeyBub wrote:
I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The sink is supposed to have an aluminum frame around it between the counter and sink. The clips that hold the frame in look like these. The clips are of different shapes to adjust for the counter top thickness. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZD7RK/...0&linkCode=asn The frame looks like this. The frames come in all sizes.The frame overlap the sink edge and the counter-top with a sealing agent under the frame. The frame cross section is the shape of a "T" with a hook edge at the bottom of the "T". The clip hooks on this hooked edge of the "T". http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1279031 Hope this makes sense. If not ask and I will try to make it clearer. I couldn't find a better example. |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:16:20 -0500, RLM wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:12:48 -0600, HeyBub wrote: I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The sink is supposed to have an aluminum frame around it between the counter and sink. The clips that hold the frame in look like these. The clips are of different shapes to adjust for the counter top thickness. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZD7RK/...0&linkCode=asn The frame looks like this. The frames come in all sizes.The frame overlap the sink edge and the counter-top with a sealing agent under the frame. The frame cross section is the shape of a "T" with a hook edge at the bottom of the "T". The clip hooks on this hooked edge of the "T". http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1279031 Hope this makes sense. If not ask and I will try to make it clearer. I couldn't find a better example. This example shows adjustable clips for the frame. http://www.acehardware.com/family/in...goryId=2631417 |
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RLM wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:16:20 -0500, RLM wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:12:48 -0600, HeyBub wrote: I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The sink is supposed to have an aluminum frame around it between the counter and sink. The clips that hold the frame in look like these. The clips are of different shapes to adjust for the counter top thickness. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZD7RK/...0&linkCode=asn The frame looks like this. The frames come in all sizes.The frame overlap the sink edge and the counter-top with a sealing agent under the frame. The frame cross section is the shape of a "T" with a hook edge at the bottom of the "T". The clip hooks on this hooked edge of the "T". http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1279031 Hope this makes sense. If not ask and I will try to make it clearer. I couldn't find a better example. This example shows adjustable clips for the frame. http://www.acehardware.com/family/in...goryId=2631417 Thanks, but all your example involve some sort of "J" bracket that hooks on to something. In my case there is nothing to hook onto! There is a "U" frame circling the sink, but it has no lips (kinda like I felt after dating a University of Texas Longhorn Band French Horn player) to hook onto. I'm a goner. |
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"HeyBub" wrote in
: RLM wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:16:20 -0500, RLM wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:12:48 -0600, HeyBub wrote: I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The sink is supposed to have an aluminum frame around it between the counter and sink. The clips that hold the frame in look like these. The clips are of different shapes to adjust for the counter top thickness. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZD7RK/...RK704885?smid= A25DVOZOPBFMAN&tag=dealt57199-20&linkCode=asn The frame looks like this. The frames come in all sizes.The frame overlap the sink edge and the counter-top with a sealing agent under the frame. The frame cross section is the shape of a "T" with a hook edge at the bottom of the "T". The clip hooks on this hooked edge of the "T". http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1279031 Hope this makes sense. If not ask and I will try to make it clearer. I couldn't find a better example. This example shows adjustable clips for the frame. http://www.acehardware.com/family/in...goryId=2631417 Thanks, but all your example involve some sort of "J" bracket that hooks on to something. In my case there is nothing to hook onto! There is a "U" frame circling the sink, but it has no lips (kinda like I felt after dating a University of Texas Longhorn Band French Horn player) to hook onto. I'm a goner. HeyBub, can't post a pic? |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message ... There is a "U" frame circling the sink, but it has no lips (kinda like I felt after dating a University of Texas Longhorn Band French Horn player) to hook onto. owwww Blowjob is only a figure of speech :-) |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:01:12 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote: There is a "U" frame circling the sink, but it has no lips (kinda like I felt after dating a University of Texas Longhorn Band French Horn player) to hook onto. I'm a goner. Take another look at the "corner clip". Looks like it has a thumb screw. Insert the clip at a corner(s) and not along the sides of the sink. http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sinkclips.html |
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"Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:01:12 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: There is a "U" frame circling the sink, but it has no lips (kinda like I felt after dating a University of Texas Longhorn Band French Horn player) to hook onto. I'm a goner. Take another look at the "corner clip". Looks like it has a thumb screw. Insert the clip at a corner(s) and not along the sides of the sink. http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sinkclips.html This it? http://retrorenovation.com/wp-conten...sink-clips.jpg |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:33:39 -0600, "1D10T" wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:01:12 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: There is a "U" frame circling the sink, but it has no lips (kinda like I felt after dating a University of Texas Longhorn Band French Horn player) to hook onto. I'm a goner. Take another look at the "corner clip". Looks like it has a thumb screw. Insert the clip at a corner(s) and not along the sides of the sink. http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sinkclips.html This it? No. Look at the link above for a corner clip, one I'm mentioning. http://retrorenovation.com/wp-conten...sink-clips.jpg |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:46:07 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote: Don Phillipson wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message m... . . . Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The proper clips have a screw in them that tightens against the counter top. If you cannot find them glue it with silicone adhesive. WW Thanks, but that's not the issue. The problem is attaching the clips to the SINK. What did the vendor of the sink tell you? Nothing. Bought on clearance sale a dozen or more years ago. Sink is okay, I replaced the counter. In its immediately preceding life, the sink wasn't anchored at all, depending, I suppose, on gravity - or goodwill - to keep it in place. Gravity is still working, but global warming makes its long time future dubious. This arrangement allowed some small amount of moisture to infiltrate the particle-board substrate with predictable results - hence the rebuild. Now, I'm trying to do the job right and am flummoxed over holding the sink down. Fooey! Go look at your friends' sinks, or better yet, sinks on display whereever you bought the sink. My kitchen sink was simply attached, though I don't remember how. |
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1D10T wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:01:12 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: There is a "U" frame circling the sink, but it has no lips (kinda like I felt after dating a University of Texas Longhorn Band French Horn player) to hook onto. I'm a goner. Take another look at the "corner clip". Looks like it has a thumb screw. Insert the clip at a corner(s) and not along the sides of the sink. http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sinkclips.html This it? http://retrorenovation.com/wp-conten...sink-clips.jpg Lamentably, no. There is nothing about the *&$%@! sink to which anything else can clip, hook, grab, infiltrate, tie, or grasp. Your picture has some well-placed slots into which some maner of clip can grip. Well, fugg it. It's not like the sonofabitch is gonna levitate itself into the cosmic ether or miracle itself into the next room! Thanks, everybody, for the searching and suggestions. |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message m... 1D10T wrote: This it? http://retrorenovation.com/wp-conten...sink-clips.jpg Lamentably, no. There is nothing about the *&$%@! sink to which anything else can clip, hook, grab, infiltrate, tie, or grasp. Your picture has some well-placed slots into which some maner of clip can grip. Well, fugg it. It's not like the sonofabitch is gonna levitate itself into the cosmic ether or miracle itself into the next room! Last ditch perhaps, but here goes - - - - Embed the sink in a good bead of silicon, get it squared with the counter edges and place a cement block or two in the basin(s) and let it sit for a day or two. Don't laugh at me - I've done it in a workshop counter three years ago and it's still hanging in there. |
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1D10T wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message m... 1D10T wrote: This it? http://retrorenovation.com/wp-conten...sink-clips.jpg Lamentably, no. There is nothing about the *&$%@! sink to which anything else can clip, hook, grab, infiltrate, tie, or grasp. Your picture has some well-placed slots into which some maner of clip can grip. Well, fugg it. It's not like the sonofabitch is gonna levitate itself into the cosmic ether or miracle itself into the next room! Last ditch perhaps, but here goes - - - - Embed the sink in a good bead of silicon, get it squared with the counter edges and place a cement block or two in the basin(s) and let it sit for a day or two. Don't laugh at me - I've done it in a workshop counter three years ago and it's still hanging in there. Good 'nothing to lose' workaround, but rather than scratch and bend the basins with concrete block, I'd cut a scrap of plywood to fit over the top, resting on the edge flanges, and stack the weights on that. That will provide more even pressure, straight down on the silicone sealant. A ring of something like that is how previous owner mounted the vanity sink in this place, and it held till I had to apply excessive torque changing out the trap. That was at least ten years. -- aem sends.. |
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On Feb 3, 11:12*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... I'm not sure I have a clear picture of what you have on your hands, but would epoxying some nuts into the channel help? If you have enough of them the load on each will be pretty low. |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:56:38 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote: Oren wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:46:07 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: Now, I'm trying to do the job right and am flummoxed over holding the sink down. Fooey! Any of these look helpful? Sink Rim Mounting Clips http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sinkclips.html Sadly, no. I bought a pack of #65, but there's nothing for the the "J" hook to grab. Woe is me. You may have to wash your dishes in the cement pond. Or if you don't have one of those, in the gutter. |
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HeyBub wrote:
I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. You 100% sure about that Bub? All the channels I have ever seen have a ridge in them or are shaped so that the clip will catch when it is tightened. That ridge or shape may be almost indiscernible but I'm betting it is there. __________ If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. If you know the manufacturer of the sink they would have it. That's the best bet as the clips vary in size and design with manufacturer. If you don't, Home Depot, Ace, etc. have generic clips. I'm sure plumbing supply stores do too. Some different styles... http://www.doityourself.com/icat/sinkclip One thing about the generics...not long ago I was putting in a used SS sink in my shop and had to get clips at HD. Well, they were really too short for 3/4 ply so I had to bevel the bottom edges of the opening so they would bear on the wood. They were like these from Ace but the tab was fixed rather than sliding. Wish I'd seen them, I wouldn't have had to bevel. http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com...37.html?ref=42 -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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HeyBub wrote:
Lamentably, no. There is nothing about the *&$%@! sink to which anything else can clip, hook, grab, infiltrate, tie, or grasp. Your picture has some well-placed slots into which some maner of clip can grip. 1. Dremel tool 2. Make slots 3. Install sink -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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on 2/3/2009 6:01 PM (ET) HeyBub wrote the following:
RLM wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:16:20 -0500, RLM wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:12:48 -0600, HeyBub wrote: I'm having a devil of a time finding some method to secure a stainless kitchen sink. The periphery contains a U-channel into which I surmise some sort of clip will fit, securing the sink to the countertop. Unfortunately, this U-channel is like a Helvetica "U" - that is no serifs or extensions onto which a clip will secure itself. Whatever goes in the channel must grip the sink by expanding itself (I guess) because there's no stop on the channel to keep the anchor from falling out. If you know of the proper anchor, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Else I'll just have to nail the sucker down... The sink is supposed to have an aluminum frame around it between the counter and sink. The clips that hold the frame in look like these. The clips are of different shapes to adjust for the counter top thickness. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZD7RK/...0&linkCode=asn The frame looks like this. The frames come in all sizes.The frame overlap the sink edge and the counter-top with a sealing agent under the frame. The frame cross section is the shape of a "T" with a hook edge at the bottom of the "T". The clip hooks on this hooked edge of the "T". http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1279031 Hope this makes sense. If not ask and I will try to make it clearer. I couldn't find a better example. This example shows adjustable clips for the frame. http://www.acehardware.com/family/in...goryId=2631417 Thanks, but all your example involve some sort of "J" bracket that hooks on to something. In my case there is nothing to hook onto! There is a "U" frame circling the sink, but it has no lips (kinda like I felt after dating a University of Texas Longhorn Band French Horn player) to hook onto. I'm a goner. I can't imagine any type of clamp that would work with what you have described. Perhaps that sink missed a step in manufacturing and got though inspection? Maybe that's why it was on clearance. How about a bead of epoxy putty under the sink rim?. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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mm wrote:
Woe is me. You may have to wash your dishes in the cement pond. Or if you don't have one of those, in the gutter. Nah, got a dishwasher. About the only thing for which the sink is actually used is as a staging area for the dirty dishes. |
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dadiOH wrote:
HeyBub wrote: Lamentably, no. There is nothing about the *&$%@! sink to which anything else can clip, hook, grab, infiltrate, tie, or grasp. Your picture has some well-placed slots into which some maner of clip can grip. 1. Dremel tool 2. Make slots 3. Install sink That solution is like the old saying: "You can't get there from here. You have to start from somewhere else." Your idea is absolutely brilliant! Like Ben Franklin's invention of the bifocal glasses - incredibly obvious, but no one thought of it before. Thinking outside the box and imminently more practical than "Can you fashion some sort of lathe?" I don't think I'm being premature in saying "Thank you." |
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HeyBub wrote:
dadiOH wrote: HeyBub wrote: Lamentably, no. There is nothing about the *&$%@! sink to which anything else can clip, hook, grab, infiltrate, tie, or grasp. Your picture has some well-placed slots into which some maner of clip can grip. 1. Dremel tool 2. Make slots 3. Install sink That solution is like the old saying: "You can't get there from here. You have to start from somewhere else." Your idea is absolutely brilliant! Like Ben Franklin's invention of the bifocal glasses - incredibly obvious, but no one thought of it before. Thinking outside the box and imminently more practical than "Can you fashion some sort of lathe?" I don't think I'm being premature in saying "Thank you." Aw, shucks, twern't nuthin' -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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"dadiOH" wrote in newsymil.18114$NV1.9284
@newsfe01.ams2: HeyBub wrote: dadiOH wrote: HeyBub wrote: Lamentably, no. There is nothing about the *&$%@! sink to which anything else can clip, hook, grab, infiltrate, tie, or grasp. Your picture has some well-placed slots into which some maner of clip can grip. 1. Dremel tool 2. Make slots 3. Install sink That solution is like the old saying: "You can't get there from here. You have to start from somewhere else." Your idea is absolutely brilliant! Like Ben Franklin's invention of the bifocal glasses - incredibly obvious, but no one thought of it before. Thinking outside the box and imminently more practical than "Can you fashion some sort of lathe?" I don't think I'm being premature in saying "Thank you." Aw, shucks, twern't nuthin' You need to change your handle to AbsolutelyBrilliant :-) |
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