On Nov 25, 10:59*pm, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:
On Tue 25 Nov 2008 02:23:31p, Ron told us...

On Nov 25, 3:43*pm, Wayne Boatwright
For spyware I use SuperAntiSpyware - also the free edition, on my
home computers.

I use Spybot Search & Destroy, also free. *How does that compare? *I
also
use Ad-Aware.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...e-scumware-rem...
.htm

Spyware Doctor that is even better than SAS.

http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/google_pack/

Thanks, Ron!

You're welcome.

Also, if you use "McAfee Site Advisor" and some common sense, it's
highly unlikely that you will ever have a major problem.

http://www.siteadvisor.com/

There is also a product called "LinkScanner", that will scan links
before they are opened. I don't use this because it slows my computer
down.

My father uses it, along with Site Advisor, and says it doesn't slow
his computer down....our computers are similar AFA processors and
memory, but he has a slightly faster ISP than I do.

So you can try it out if you want to http://www.explabs.com/products/lslite..asp

"Ron" wrote in message
Also, if you use "McAfee Site Advisor" and some common sense, it's
highly unlikely that you will ever have a major problem.

http://www.siteadvisor.com/

There is also a product called "LinkScanner", that will scan links
before they are opened. I don't use this because it slows my computer
down.

************************************************** **

Somehow my wife's computer got a program (malware?) call AntiVirus Pro 2009.
What a mess. There is a constant popup telling her it is infected and takes
you to a site to pay to activate the program to get rid of it.

I un-installed it, removed some registry lines but it still won't allow me
to use System Restore, or go to the Norton, McAffee or any other legitimate
AV software download site, Windows Update, etc. I spend hours trying to be
totally rid of it. I re-installed Norton from a CD but I can't go to the
website to update it.

And she wonders why no one is allowed to touch my computer.

In article ,
"olddog" wrote:

"HD Shopper" wrote in message
...
Went shopping at my local Home Depot the other day. Browsing through
the kitchen cabinet section I see one of the computers that the HD
people use to write your order. It has a big warning on the screen
from Mcafee Anti Virus Software that the system is infected with
spyware. Told one of the HD customer service reps about it, they
looked at me like I tried to have sexual relations with their dog.
snip

You're familiar with that look?

Never have sex with your dog. They'll never look at you the same.

Did I ever mention that in college I majored in animal husbandry
until they caught me at it one day?

Kurt (With apologies to Tom Lehrer) Ullman

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:18 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

"keelogger"? Would that be next to the kee grinder, by the tools area? I
think I found the kee to all of life's problems.

I realize Mormons are very rigid in their bizarre beliefs. I didn't
know they had similar problems in everyday communications with people.

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:38:52 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:13:16 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:03:58 -0600, "Steve Barker DLT"
wrote:

you'd have to open the attachment. just opening an email can do no harm.

s


You are an unmitigated idiot.

Use your credit card at a checkout that has a key logger trojan and
your credit card swipe gets transmitted .... Somewhere. So do all the
passwords entered on the computer to access other areas of the
merchant's network, and pin numbers entered on the card swip machine.



wrote in message
...


Many virii

There is no such word in any language. The ENGLISH plural for virus is
viruses.

ARE quite scary. You can totally screw up a system in no
time by opening the wrong e-mail attachment -

Spyware is less scary, but is one of the most common contributors to
identity theft. And it slows your system down.


You are technically correct, It is not ENGLISH. However it is in
common usage,and both are technically incorrect.

Virus in the latin, I believe, is neither singular nor plural as it
denoted something uncountable.

In computer circles both viruses and virii are commonly used, while in
some places virus is used, no matter if singular or plural.

The use of "virii" indicates a certain level of ignorance and
non-thinking. Call it parroting if you prefer. It is used by those who
probably don't know much about the subject.

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:58:07 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:

Somehow my wife's computer got a program (malware?) call AntiVirus Pro 2009.
What a mess. There is a constant popup telling her it is infected and takes
you to a site to pay to activate the program to get rid of it.

I un-installed it, removed some registry lines but it still won't allow me
to use System Restore, or go to the Norton, McAffee or any other legitimate
AV software download site, Windows Update, etc. I spend hours trying to be
totally rid of it. I re-installed Norton from a CD but I can't go to the
website to update it.

Sounds like your best recourse is to wipe the hard drive and reinstall
all the programs. I like Darik's Boot and Nuke for this:
http://www.dban.org/ .

wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:18 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

"keelogger"? Would that be next to the kee grinder, by the tools area? I
think I found the kee to all of life's problems.

I realize Mormons are very rigid in their bizarre beliefs. I didn't
know they had similar problems in everyday communications with people.


I suppose you're one of "The Chosen" and a
practitioner of THE one and only true faith
sanctioned by GOD. Why don't you really get
nasty and call the guy a Democrat.

TDD

Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Somehow my wife's computer got a program (malware?) call AntiVirus
Pro 2009. What a mess. There is a constant popup telling her it is
infected and takes you to a site to pay to activate the program to
get rid of it.
I un-installed it, removed some registry lines but it still won't
allow me to use System Restore, or go to the Norton, McAffee or any
other legitimate AV software download site, Windows Update, etc. I
spend hours trying to be totally rid of it. I re-installed Norton
from a CD but I can't go to the website to update it.

And she wonders why no one is allowed to touch my computer.

AntiVirus Pro is a particularly insidious bit of software and can be
difficult to remove. Removal is, however, possible and straighforward.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/malw...virus-pro-2009

http://www.xp-vista.com/spyware-remo...iviruspro-2009

Malwarebytes' "Anti-Malware" seems to be the most recommended by the folks
at microsoft.public.windowsxp.general newsgroup:

http://www.besttechie.net/tools/mbam-setup.exe

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Ron" wrote in message
Also, if you use "McAfee Site Advisor" and some common sense, it's
highly unlikely that you will ever have a major problem.

http://www.siteadvisor.com/

There is also a product called "LinkScanner", that will scan links
before they are opened. I don't use this because it slows my computer
down.

************************************************** **

Somehow my wife's computer got a program (malware?) call AntiVirus Pro 2009.
What a mess. There is a constant popup telling her it is infected and takes
you to a site to pay to activate the program to get rid of it.

I un-installed it, removed some registry lines but it still won't allow me
to use System Restore, or go to the Norton, McAffee or any other legitimate
AV software download site, Windows Update, etc. I spend hours trying to be
totally rid of it. I re-installed Norton from a CD but I can't go to the
website to update it.

And she wonders why no one is allowed to touch my computer.


BTDT. Good example of why you always want to spool off your data to a
backup, and keep your distribution disks in good order. Sometimes the
quickest cure is to Nuke and Reload. (Didin't Ridley say that in one of
the alien movies? ...'nuke them from orbit- that is the only way we can
be sure.')

I'll throw in a plug for PCTools antivirus and spam tool. $35 a year for
a 3-machine license. Been running it for about a year and a half now,
and (knock on plastic wood), no problems. And I probably am not the most
careful internet browser. I had been using Symantec corporate under the
free (but legal) license from work, but the later releases fought with
XP so bad I finally said the hell with it.

--
aem sends...

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:57:08 -0800, HD Shopper wrote:

Went shopping at my local Home Depot the other day. Browsing through the
kitchen cabinet section I see one of the computers that the HD people
use to write your order. It has a big warning on the screen from Mcafee
Anti Virus Software that the system is infected with spyware. Told one
of the HD customer service reps about it, they looked at me like I tried
to have sexual relations with their dog. Went out to the car to get my
cell phone and take a picture and when I came back the offending system
was turned off. Just makes you wonder how those computers are tied into
the computers up front that take your money when you buy something. Very
scary!

Most employees dont care or dont understand. There business is selling
you home improvement not keeping a windows box clean. The majority of
boxes infected are used to shuttle spam, DOS attacks, Cracking other
systems or boxes.

If your going to run a windows box then you might as well be prepared to
spend ALOT of money on keeping it safe.

Most companies at the retail level dont bother. As long as the box does
what its suppose to do they dont care.

The average windows box uses 30 % of its resources for virus related
software alone. Not to mention that your anti-virus software comes
complete with adware built in!

If you are upset about this then you should be investigating alternatives
like Linux. Microsoft spends alot of time and effort spreading FUD about
linux. But in my many years of experience I find it to be a true
alternative to windows. I no longer run any windows boxes at home. I have
saved ALOT of money and headaches.

In article ,
wrote:

Running a computer "bareback" on the internet is totally foolhardy -
particularly when there are MANY GOOD FRR ANTIVRUS PROGRAMS available.

I've been running my computer on the internet for 10 years with NO virus
protection, never had a problem. OTOH, I'm running a Mac

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Patriot wrote:

If you are upset about this then you should be investigating
alternatives like Linux. Microsoft spends alot of time and effort
spreading FUD about linux. But in my many years of experience I find
it to be a true alternative to windows. I no longer run any windows
boxes at home. I have saved ALOT of money and headaches.

I've always considered Linux the equivalent of a blow-up doll; I guess it's
better than nothing, but it is certainly not the real thing (which, for
some, is not a minus).

And, after many years of giving the sucker away for free, Linux has yet to
achieve 1% of the installed desktop market.

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:13:16 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:03:58 -0600, "Steve Barker DLT"
wrote:

you'd have to open the attachment. just opening an email can do no harm.

s


You are an unmitigated idiot.

Use your credit card at a checkout that has a key logger trojan and
your credit card swipe gets transmitted .... Somewhere. So do all the
passwords entered on the computer to access other areas of the
merchant's network, and pin numbers entered on the card swip machine.



wrote in message
...


Many virii

There is no such word in any language. The ENGLISH plural for virus is
viruses.

ARE quite scary. You can totally screw up a system in no
time by opening the wrong e-mail attachment -

Spyware is less scary, but is one of the most common contributors to
identity theft. And it slows your system down.


You are technically correct, It is not ENGLISH. However it is in
common usage,and both are technically incorrect.

Virus in the latin, I believe, is neither singular nor plural as it
denoted something uncountable.

In computer circles both viruses and virii are commonly used, while in
some places virus is used, no matter if singular or plural.

Virii makes you sound more intellectual, though.

Steve

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:18 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

"keelogger"? Would that be next to the kee grinder, by the tools area? I
think I found the kee to all of life's problems.

I realize Mormons are very rigid in their bizarre beliefs. I didn't
know they had similar problems in everyday communications with people.


I suppose you're one of "The Chosen" and a
practitioner of THE one and only true faith
sanctioned by GOD. Why don't you really get
nasty and call the guy a Democrat.

TDD

Not to worry. Every religion has a term to define non believers, and
passages in their one true correct holy books that gives believers license
to treat them like a dog. Infidel, Gentiles, pagans, etc.

Steve

On Nov 26, 6:56*am, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:58:07 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:

Somehow my wife's computer got a program (malware?) call AntiVirus Pro 2009.
What a mess. *There is a constant popup telling her it is infected and takes
you to a site to pay to activate the program to get rid of it.

I un-installed it, removed some registry lines but it still won't allow me
to use System Restore, or go to the Norton, McAffee or any other legitimate
AV software download site, Windows Update, etc. *I spend hours trying to be
totally rid of it. *I re-installed Norton from a CD but I can't go to the
website to update it.

Sounds like your best recourse is to wipe the hard drive and reinstall
all the programs. *I like Darik's Boot and Nuke for this:http://www.dban.org/*.

Dude, you DON'T have to erase the HDD to reformat your computer!!!!!

If, Ed was my neighbor and I was able to get my hands on his computer
I could remove whatever it is that he has, but telling someone what to
do is very hard through writing. It is for me anyway.

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.250...
On Tue 25 Nov 2008 02:20:29p, Bob F told us...


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.247...
On Tue 25 Nov 2008 09:54:29a, told us...

Darn right you can - I do it all the time.

As do I.

Running a computer "bareback" on the internet is totally foolhardy -
particularly when there are MANY GOOD FRR ANTIVRUS PROGRAMS available.

I use AVG Free. Lots of other good ones.

I used AVG Free for years before I moved and began using Cox as my ISP.
They provide McAfee at no cost.

Comcast provides McAfee also. I use AVG free after a long list of McAfee
problems.



I’ve never had a problem with McAfee since I switched, which was about two
years ago.


I haven't used McAfee for many years because of the earlier problem. It does,
however, seem to slow down my friends computer a lot these days in its current
incarnation.

"Ron" wrote in message
...
On Nov 26, 6:56 am, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:58:07 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:

Somehow my wife's computer got a program (malware?) call AntiVirus Pro
2009.
What a mess. There is a constant popup telling her it is infected and
takes
you to a site to pay to activate the program to get rid of it.

I un-installed it, removed some registry lines but it still won't allow
me
to use System Restore, or go to the Norton, McAffee or any other
legitimate
AV software download site, Windows Update, etc. I spend hours trying to
be
totally rid of it. I re-installed Norton from a CD but I can't go to the
website to update it.

Sounds like your best recourse is to wipe the hard drive and reinstall
all the programs. I like Darik's Boot and Nuke for
this:http://www.dban.org/ .

Dude, you DON'T have to erase the HDD to reformat your computer!!!!!

If, Ed was my neighbor and I was able to get my hands on his computer
I could remove whatever it is that he has, but telling someone what to
do is very hard through writing. It is for me anyway.

How hard can it be? Just start hitting the delete and ok buttons.

Sheesh. Do I gotta tell you everything?

Steve ;-)

SteveB wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:18 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

"keelogger"? Would that be next to the kee grinder, by the tools area? I
think I found the kee to all of life's problems.
I realize Mormons are very rigid in their bizarre beliefs. I didn't
know they had similar problems in everyday communications with people.

I suppose you're one of "The Chosen" and a
practitioner of THE one and only true faith
sanctioned by GOD. Why don't you really get
nasty and call the guy a Democrat.

TDD

Not to worry. Every religion has a term to define non believers, and
passages in their one true correct holy books that gives believers license
to treat them like a dog. Infidel, Gentiles, pagans, etc.

Steve



I had a Christian talk radio host tell me that
Catholicism was a cult. I take umbrage when I
see someone criticize another's religious
background unless you're picking on Southern
Baptists. You can tease them all you want.

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:18 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

"keelogger"? Would that be next to the kee grinder, by the tools
area? I think I found the kee to all of life's problems.

I realize Mormons are very rigid in their bizarre beliefs. I didn't
know they had similar problems in everyday communications with
people.

I suppose you're one of "The Chosen" and a
practitioner of THE one and only true faith
sanctioned by GOD. Why don't you really get
nasty and call the guy a Democrat.


The "Chosen" are not practitioners of the one, true faith. They were
"chosen" to follow the commandments, not a particular set of beliefs (there
is no "belief" test in Judiasm - you can be an athiest and still be a good
Jew). The official Jewish position is that Christianity (in all its forms),
is meritorious.

There is some ambivalence, however, about Democrats.

On Tue 25 Nov 2008 11:20:13p, Ron told us...

On Nov 25, 10:59*pm, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:
On Tue 25 Nov 2008 02:23:31p, Ron told us...

On Nov 25, 3:43*pm, Wayne Boatwright
For spyware I use SuperAntiSpyware - also the free edition, on my
home computers.

I use Spybot Search & Destroy, also free. *How does that compare?
*I
also
use Ad-Aware.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...e-scumware-rem..
.
.htm

Spyware Doctor that is even better than SAS.

http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/google_pack/

Thanks, Ron!

You're welcome.

Also, if you use "McAfee Site Advisor" and some common sense, it's
highly unlikely that you will ever have a major problem.

http://www.siteadvisor.com/

I do use McAfee Site Advisor, and have never really had a problem.


There is also a product called "LinkScanner", that will scan links
before they are opened. I don't use this because it slows my computer
down.

My father uses it, along with Site Advisor, and says it doesn't slow
his computer down....our computers are similar AFA processors and
memory, but he has a slightly faster ISP than I do.

So you can try it out if you want to
http://www.explabs.com/products/lslite.asp

I’ll take a look at it, but I doubt I really need it.


--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
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On Wed 26 Nov 2008 10:55:57a, Bob F told us...


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.250...
On Tue 25 Nov 2008 02:20:29p, Bob F told us...


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.247...
On Tue 25 Nov 2008 09:54:29a, told us...

Darn right you can - I do it all the time.

As do I.

Running a computer "bareback" on the internet is totally foolhardy -
particularly when there are MANY GOOD FRR ANTIVRUS PROGRAMS
available.

I use AVG Free. Lots of other good ones.

I used AVG Free for years before I moved and began using Cox as my
ISP. They provide McAfee at no cost.

Comcast provides McAfee also. I use AVG free after a long list of
McAfee problems.



I’ve never had a problem with McAfee since I switched, which was about
two years ago.


I haven't used McAfee for many years because of the earlier problem. It
does, however, seem to slow down my friends computer a lot these days in
its current incarnation.

Speed issues may be both ISP speed and processor speed related. I’ve not
noticed in slow down.


--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
************************************************** **********************
Date: Wednesday, 11(XI)/26(XXVI)/08(MMVIII)
************************************************** **********************
Countdown till U.S. Thanksgiving Day
10hrs 43mins
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A stitch in time would have confused Einstein.
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HeyBub wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:18 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

"keelogger"? Would that be next to the kee grinder, by the tools
area? I think I found the kee to all of life's problems.
I realize Mormons are very rigid in their bizarre beliefs. I didn't
know they had similar problems in everyday communications with
people.
I suppose you're one of "The Chosen" and a
practitioner of THE one and only true faith
sanctioned by GOD. Why don't you really get
nasty and call the guy a Democrat.


The "Chosen" are not practitioners of the one, true faith. They were
"chosen" to follow the commandments, not a particular set of beliefs (there
is no "belief" test in Judiasm - you can be an athiest and still be a good
Jew). The official Jewish position is that Christianity (in all its forms),
is meritorious.

There is some ambivalence, however, about Democrats.


All I know is that I have no fear of terrorists.
As a small boy I had Irish nuns for teachers.
Nothing can scare me or traumatize me after what
I went through a half century ago. Besides I come
from a multi species family. One side of the clan
is Roman Catholic, Jew and space alien, the other
side of the family is Southern Baptist, Southern
Methodist, Druids and an odd bunch who worship some
kind of fungus that glows in the dark. For that
reason I have a right to pick on anybody because
they are all my cousins.

TDD

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:59:15 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

There is some ambivalence, however, about Democrats.


All I know is that I have no fear of terrorists.
As a small boy I had Irish nuns for teachers.
Nothing can scare me or traumatize me after what
I went through a half century ago. Besides I come
from a multi species family. One side of the clan
is Roman Catholic, Jew and space alien, the other
side of the family is Southern Baptist, Southern
Methodist, Druids and an odd bunch who worship some
kind of fungus that glows in the dark. For that
reason I have a right to pick on anybody because
they are all my cousins.

TDD

BUT, do you have lurking Confederates in the bushes?

Oren wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:59:15 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

There is some ambivalence, however, about Democrats.

All I know is that I have no fear of terrorists.
As a small boy I had Irish nuns for teachers.
Nothing can scare me or traumatize me after what
I went through a half century ago. Besides I come
from a multi species family. One side of the clan
is Roman Catholic, Jew and space alien, the other
side of the family is Southern Baptist, Southern
Methodist, Druids and an odd bunch who worship some
kind of fungus that glows in the dark. For that
reason I have a right to pick on anybody because
they are all my cousins.

TDD

BUT, do you have lurking Confederates in the bushes?

It's possible but my Southern Republican ancestors
were abolitionists. When I explain that the Republicans
were anti-slavery to my melanin enabled friends, they
can't believe it because it runs counter to the crap
they've been exposed to all their lives.

TDD

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:45:35 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:59:15 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

There is some ambivalence, however, about Democrats.

All I know is that I have no fear of terrorists.
As a small boy I had Irish nuns for teachers.
Nothing can scare me or traumatize me after what
I went through a half century ago. Besides I come
from a multi species family. One side of the clan
is Roman Catholic, Jew and space alien, the other
side of the family is Southern Baptist, Southern
Methodist, Druids and an odd bunch who worship some
kind of fungus that glows in the dark. For that
reason I have a right to pick on anybody because
they are all my cousins.

TDD

BUT, do you have lurking Confederates in the bushes?

It's possible but my Southern Republican ancestors
were abolitionists. When I explain that the Republicans
were anti-slavery to my melanin enabled friends, they
can't believe it because it runs counter to the crap
they've been exposed to all their lives.

TDD

Yeah, hard to explain how Yankees ever got into Georgia.

Oren wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:45:35 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:59:15 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

There is some ambivalence, however, about Democrats.

All I know is that I have no fear of terrorists.
As a small boy I had Irish nuns for teachers.
Nothing can scare me or traumatize me after what
I went through a half century ago. Besides I come
from a multi species family. One side of the clan
is Roman Catholic, Jew and space alien, the other
side of the family is Southern Baptist, Southern
Methodist, Druids and an odd bunch who worship some
kind of fungus that glows in the dark. For that
reason I have a right to pick on anybody because
they are all my cousins.

TDD
BUT, do you have lurking Confederates in the bushes?
It's possible but my Southern Republican ancestors
were abolitionists. When I explain that the Republicans
were anti-slavery to my melanin enabled friends, they
can't believe it because it runs counter to the crap
they've been exposed to all their lives.

TDD

Yeah, hard to explain how Yankees ever got into Georgia.

I think them damn Yankees marched in and
set the place on fire.

TDD

Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us...


"Ron" wrote in message
Also, if you use "McAfee Site Advisor" and some common sense, it's
highly unlikely that you will ever have a major problem.

http://www.siteadvisor.com/

There is also a product called "LinkScanner", that will scan links
before they are opened. I don't use this because it slows my computer
down.

************************************************** **

Somehow my wife's computer got a program (malware?) call AntiVirus Pro 2009.
What a mess. There is a constant popup telling her it is infected and takes
you to a site to pay to activate the program to get rid of it.

I un-installed it, removed some registry lines but it still won't allow me
to use System Restore, or go to the Norton, McAffee or any other legitimate
AV software download site, Windows Update, etc. I spend hours trying to be
totally rid of it. I re-installed Norton from a CD but I can't go to the
website to update it.

And she wonders why no one is allowed to touch my computer.



Try the F-Secure on-line scanner. Also check out last months PC World for
other on-line sites.
--
Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service.

"HeyBub" wrote in message

AntiVirus Pro is a particularly insidious bit of software and can be
difficult to remove. Removal is, however, possible and straighforward.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/malw...virus-pro-2009

http://www.xp-vista.com/spyware-remo...iviruspro-2009

Malwarebytes' "Anti-Malware" seems to be the most recommended by the folks
at microsoft.public.windowsxp.general newsgroup:

http://www.besttechie.net/tools/mbam-setup.exe


I got the information from bleepingcomputer and was able to be rid of the
basic program. That is where I got the registry information. I still can't
get to certain web sites though. I'm wondering if I remove and re-install
Internet Explorer is the problem would be repaired. I'm going to try making
a bootable CD on my computer from a Norton website to see if that helps.

On Nov 25, 5:12*pm, Claude Hopper
wrote:

I always wondered why if microwaves make you sterile why they don't use
them for birth control.
* * * (directions, stand in front of the microwave for 5 minutes before sex)


same as i always wondered why they go through all that trouble to
hijack an airplane, when we need to shut off our cell phones or the
plane would go into a death spiral. "take this plane to cuba, or i
will make a phone call!"

SteveB wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote

I had a Christian talk radio host tell me that
Catholicism was a cult. I take umbrage when I
see someone criticize another's religious
background unless you're picking on Southern
Baptists. You can tease them all you want.

TDD

I'm a Southern Baptist. What words of wisdom do you have for me?

Steve


Howdy cousin!

TDD

"The Daring Dufas" wrote

I had a Christian talk radio host tell me that
Catholicism was a cult. I take umbrage when I
see someone criticize another's religious
background unless you're picking on Southern
Baptists. You can tease them all you want.

TDD

I'm a Southern Baptist. What words of wisdom do you have for me?

Steve

On Nov 26, 11:29*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

AntiVirus Pro is a particularly insidious bit of software and can be
difficult to remove. Removal is, however, possible and straighforward.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/malw...antivirus-pro-...

http://www.xp-vista.com/spyware-remo...009-removal-in...

Malwarebytes' "Anti-Malware" seems to be the most recommended by the folks
at microsoft.public.windowsxp.general newsgroup:

http://www.besttechie.net/tools/mbam-setup.exe

I got the information from bleepingcomputer and was able to be rid of the
basic program. *That is where I got the registry information. I still can't
get to certain web sites though. *I'm wondering if I remove and re-install
Internet Explorer is the problem would be repaired. *I'm going to try making
a bootable CD on my computer from a Norton website to see if that helps.

Don't do that!

Ed, download the Firefox browser and see if you can go to all sites.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

Post back and back with results....as I wrote earlier, it's very hard
for me to "fix" a computer through written text, but I'm more than
willing to help you even through private emails.

I'm a hands on type of guy, as most of us are in this forum, but I
might be able to help you through email.

If you need help, email me at bigelile07 at yahoo.com

In article ,
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote

I had a Christian talk radio host tell me that
Catholicism was a cult. I take umbrage when I
see someone criticize another's religious
background unless you're picking on Southern
Baptists. You can tease them all you want.

TDD

I'm a Southern Baptist. What words of wisdom do you have for me?

Steve

There are three religious truths:
1. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
2. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian faith.
3. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store or at
Hooters

Ron wrote:
On Nov 26, 11:29 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

AntiVirus Pro is a particularly insidious bit of software and can be
difficult to remove. Removal is, however, possible and
straighforward.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/malw...antivirus-pro-...

http://www.xp-vista.com/spyware-remo...009-removal-in...

Malwarebytes' "Anti-Malware" seems to be the most recommended by
the folks at microsoft.public.windowsxp.general newsgroup:

http://www.besttechie.net/tools/mbam-setup.exe

I got the information from bleepingcomputer and was able to be rid
of the basic program. That is where I got the registry information.
I still can't get to certain web sites though. I'm wondering if I
remove and re-install Internet Explorer is the problem would be
repaired. I'm going to try making a bootable CD on my computer from
a Norton website to see if that helps.

Don't do that!

Ed, download the Firefox browser and see if you can go to all sites.


Firefox will give your cat warts. If you don't have a cat, you should be
okay.

On an XP system, you can't uninstall IE - it's part of the operating system,
not a stand-alone program. You can disable it, but you can't uninstall it.

If one is unable to access certain sites, the fault is most certainly not
with the browser. The first thing - and easiest - to check is the HOSTS
file.

It is extremely bad practice to use anything from the Norton website, except
their sooper-sekret removal tool. Norton is the barnacle of the software
world; extremely difficult to remove.

SteveB wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote

I had a Christian talk radio host tell me that
Catholicism was a cult. I take umbrage when I
see someone criticize another's religious
background unless you're picking on Southern
Baptists. You can tease them all you want.

TDD

I'm a Southern Baptist. What words of wisdom do you have for me?

Don't fall into the parochial trap. It's easy to hold to a "universal" set
of beliefs when 5,000 people are singing from the same page in the hymnal.

There are more Catholics in Mexico City than Baptists who have ever lived.

"HeyBub" wrote in message

If one is unable to access certain sites, the fault is most certainly not
with the browser. The first thing - and easiest - to check is the HOSTS
file.

It is extremely bad practice to use anything from the Norton website,
except their sooper-sekret removal tool. Norton is the barnacle of the
software world; extremely difficult to remove.


I was thinking there most be some blocking file to prevent System Restore
and Windows Update as well as the AV contact. Makes a lot of sense.

I found a HOSTS file in windows/system32/driver/etc but it has not been
modified and there is no list of anything. Is there some other HOST file to
find?

I eliminated any file that I could find with a date of 11/8, the day the
malware installed itself, but it may have drug in a file with a different
date.

"Ron" wrote in message

Ed, download the Firefox browser and see if you can go to all sites.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

Post back and back with results....as I wrote earlier, it's very hard
for me to "fix" a computer through written text, but I'm more than
willing to help you even through private emails.

I'm a hands on type of guy, as most of us are in this forum, but I
might be able to help you through email.

If you need help, email me at bigelile07 at yahoo.com


Long weekend ahead so I may give that a try. Thanks.

I get that from my father, the editor. Who is not Mormon. Please don't draw
"all Mormon" conclusions from a sample of one. Like I wouln't draw
conclusions about "all computer owners" from some of the usenet lists.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:18 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

"keelogger"? Would that be next to the kee grinder, by the tools area? I
think I found the kee to all of life's problems.

I realize Mormons are very rigid in their bizarre beliefs. I didn't
know they had similar problems in everyday communications with people.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

If one is unable to access certain sites, the fault is most
certainly not with the browser. The first thing - and easiest - to
check is the HOSTS file.

It is extremely bad practice to use anything from the Norton website,
except their sooper-sekret removal tool. Norton is the barnacle of
the software world; extremely difficult to remove.


I was thinking there most be some blocking file to prevent System
Restore and Windows Update as well as the AV contact. Makes a lot of
sense.
I found a HOSTS file in windows/system32/driver/etc but it has not
been modified and there is no list of anything. Is there some other
HOST file to find?

I eliminated any file that I could find with a date of 11/8, the day
the malware installed itself, but it may have drug in a file with a
different date.

No, there's only one HOSTS file (or should be only one). It's a list of IP
addresses you wish to block. In fact, there are replacement HOSTS files
(available via downloads) that will block oodles of dodgy sites.

Do your problems persist while in SAFE mode? (see Help)

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

If one is unable to access certain sites, the fault is most
certainly not with the browser. The first thing - and easiest - to
check is the HOSTS file.

It is extremely bad practice to use anything from the Norton website,
except their sooper-sekret removal tool. Norton is the barnacle of
the software world; extremely difficult to remove.


I was thinking there most be some blocking file to prevent System
Restore and Windows Update as well as the AV contact. Makes a lot of
sense.
I found a HOSTS file in windows/system32/driver/etc but it has not
been modified and there is no list of anything. Is there some other
HOST file to find?

I eliminated any file that I could find with a date of 11/8, the day
the malware installed itself, but it may have drug in a file with a
different date.

Also, post your problem over on "microsoft.public.widowsxp.general
newsgroup" Lots of experts there.