Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before my
neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors moving
in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be finished
building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I thought once
they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color fence to put
between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5 minutes about
what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his brown
brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired fence. but
he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go perfectly. anyhow
I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go with his home and mine
since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look stupid
? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of a foot
on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he will
have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my wooden mesh
of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is at
work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if anybody
else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway

IMO, no future in it. I've seen parallel fences, and
they are always the result of a fence-war up until
someone violates a code and then all hell really breaks
out.

Have a brewski and go relax; enjoy your yard, relax,
maybe invite him over for a brew too.

If yo can't make that work, there's always "keep your
friends close but your enemies closer". It works.

Pop


"giga" wrote in message
...
Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I
moved in 1 month before my neighbor on the right
moved in. When I found out that the neighbors moving
in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for
their home to be finished building and for them to
move in before putting up a fence. I thought once
they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and
color fence to put between our homes. Once they moved
in we talked for about 5 minutes about what kind of a
fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and
white siding and his brown brick and brown siding. He
decided on putting up a frost or wired fence. but he
chose brown for it. For my house I think white would
go perfectly. anyhow I mentioned to him why not black
this way it will go with his home and mine since
black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up
his brown fence anyways. I called my kids at home and
told them to pass the phone to them and told them I
would not pay them anything for the fence since the
color was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on
the line of our land. My question is has anyone seen
2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every
side of me now. No more Mr. nice guy anymore. People
have said to me its his house he can do whatever he
wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side
and does it look stupid ? I was thinking of putting a
wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of a foot on top
for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This
way he will have his nice brown fence that matches
his home and then see my wooden mesh of a foot above
it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very
polite with him. But wait till he sees what I'm
goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is
at work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this
situation. and if anybody else has been in this
situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway

Paint your side white.

"giga" wrote in message
...
Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before
my
neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors moving
in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be finished
building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I thought once
they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color fence to put
between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5 minutes about
what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his
brown
brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired fence.
but
he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go perfectly.
anyhow
I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go with his home and
mine
since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look
stupid
? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of a foot
on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he will
have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my wooden
mesh
of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is
at
work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if
anybody
else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway

Be prepared to spend lots of time in between the two fences, dealing with
the forest of weeds that'll grow there. They'll grow through both fences,
too. A real pain in the ass.

"giga" wrote in message
I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color was not what I
wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.

I am not at war with him.

Yes, you may not want to admit it, but putting up a spite fence is war.

He paid for it, get over it and move on. Some day you may need help from a
neighbor. You just never know.
Ed

I agree with what you guys a are saying.

But for me it's the principle. Why should he get his nice fence to match his
home? We paid good money for our homes (still paying for the home lol). He
should have been a decent man and talked to me about it. What bothers me is
I could have put mine up before he moved in. But I gave him the benefit of
the doubt and said ok lets wait for him and see what happens.

Another thing I didn't mention is I'm up in Canada in the province of Quebec
where French is predominate language. I'm English and he is French so maybe
he feels this is his Province so he thinks he has more right to his own
fence than I did

But I do understand what you guys are saying. but you don't what it feels
like till you have it done to you.

Joeway






"Pop" wrote in message
...
IMO, no future in it. I've seen parallel fences, and they are always the
result of a fence-war up until someone violates a code and then all hell
really breaks out.

Have a brewski and go relax; enjoy your yard, relax, maybe invite him over
for a brew too.

If yo can't make that work, there's always "keep your friends close but
your enemies closer". It works.

Pop


"giga" wrote in message
...
Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before
my neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors
moving in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be
finished building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I
thought once they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color
fence to put between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5
minutes about what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his
brown brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired
fence. but he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go
perfectly. anyhow I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go
with his home and mine since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our
land. My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look
stupid ? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh
of a foot on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This
way he will have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see
my wooden mesh of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is
at work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if
anybody else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway

"giga" wrote in message
...
Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before
my neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors
moving in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be
finished building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I
thought once they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color
fence to put between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5
minutes about what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his
brown brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired
fence. but he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go
perfectly. anyhow I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go
with his home and mine since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look
stupid ? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of
a foot on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he
will have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my
wooden mesh of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is
at work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if
anybody else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway


YOUR side is on YOUR property. Paint it any color you like.

A second fence would be unnecessary, as you already have one there. And
trash and leaves would get caught there. It would be a booger to paint.

Steve

Its a frost fence
Can we paint it?




"SteveB" wrote in message
news:ZobGe.53093$4o.52889@fed1read06...

"giga" wrote in message
...
Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before
my neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors
moving in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be
finished building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I
thought once they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color
fence to put between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5
minutes about what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his
brown brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired
fence. but he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go
perfectly. anyhow I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go
with his home and mine since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our
land. My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look
stupid ? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh
of a foot on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This
way he will have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see
my wooden mesh of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is
at work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if
anybody else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway


YOUR side is on YOUR property. Paint it any color you like.

A second fence would be unnecessary, as you already have one there. And
trash and leaves would get caught there. It would be a booger to paint.

Steve

giga wrote:
Its a frost fence
Can we paint it?



After it thaws throughly. WTH is a frost fence?

lol
its the chicken fence (chain link fence)
they call it frost here



"G Henslee" wrote in message
...
giga wrote:
Its a frost fence
Can we paint it?



After it thaws throughly. WTH is a frost fence?

giga wrote:

....
But I do understand what you guys are saying. but you don't what it feels
like till you have it done to you.

If this is the stuff of which you're willing to create a neighbor-war
over, heaven help if something critical were to happen...

Chill, man, fer gosh sakes...it just ain't that bigga' deal.

imo, ymmv, $0.02(US), etc., ....

giga wrote:
lol
its the chicken fence (chain link fence)
they call it frost here

Unfortunately, painting one side of a chain-link fence does not sound
practical...

I would not put up a second fence, though. What he did definitely
sounds rude, but putting up a second fence will only hurt you in the
long run. Maintenance would be a real pain.

It does seem rather odd that his fence is directly down the property
line. Isn't some sort of set-back distance usually required? Make
sure you check any local regulations about fence height and distance
away from property lines, if you do decide to go with a second fence.

Gray/white/brown is actually not a bad combination... I would let it
go, if I were you. It's not worth the aggravation.

Good luck.

--
Jennifer

giga wrote:

lol
its the chicken fence (chain link fence)
they call it frost here

"G Henslee" wrote in message
...
giga wrote:
Its a frost fence
Can we paint it?



After it thaws throughly. WTH is a frost fence?

And what the h is going to happen when you paint a fence he paid
for???? If it's what I think, you'll never be able to to it so it
doesn't show through on his side, too...

You seem bent on making sure you never get along w/ this guy imo...

"Jennifer" wrote in message
oups.com...

It does seem rather odd that his fence is directly down the property
line. Isn't some sort of set-back distance usually required?

What he gonna do, Jennifer? Make the neighbor move it? This mess is carved
on stone. Or, concrete, to be precise.

giga wrote:
lol
its the chicken fence (chain link fence)
they call it frost here



"G Henslee" wrote in message
...

giga wrote:

Its a frost fence
Can we paint it?



After it thaws throughly. WTH is a frost fence?




Chain link w/ plastic privacy slats? If you paint it you'll have to
repaint it over the years.

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Jennifer" wrote in message
oups.com...

It does seem rather odd that his fence is directly down the property
line. Isn't some sort of set-back distance usually required?

What he gonna do, Jennifer? Make the neighbor move it? This mess is carved
on stone. Or, concrete, to be precise.

Er, did I **** you off somehow?

It wouldn't be the first time a fence was moved. I actually asked
because one of my co-workers was recently complaining that his township
made him tear down his fence because it was too close to the sidewalk
and six inches too high.

Sorry to offend. (?)

--
Jennifer

"Jennifer" wrote in message
oups.com...


Doug Kanter wrote:
"Jennifer" wrote in message
oups.com...

It does seem rather odd that his fence is directly down the property
line. Isn't some sort of set-back distance usually required?

What he gonna do, Jennifer? Make the neighbor move it? This mess is
carved
on stone. Or, concrete, to be precise.

Er, did I **** you off somehow?

No, not at all? I'm still in "argue with my home office" mode. Sorry. :-)


It wouldn't be the first time a fence was moved. I actually asked
because one of my co-workers was recently complaining that his township
made him tear down his fence because it was too close to the sidewalk
and six inches too high.

I don't know if they need to get building permits in Quebec. If yes, it
seems unlikely that the inspector would not have looked at the survey.

This is all conjecture, obviously. :-)

Jennifer wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Jennifer" wrote in message
groups.com...


It does seem rather odd that his fence is directly down the property
line. Isn't some sort of set-back distance usually required?

Possibly but not likely. Some folks like to put up their fence a little
inside the property line, and "damn the neighbor". Common fences are
built on the line. Or what is believed to be the line in some cases.
it's nice and prefered I suppose when a common fence is commonly
acceptable to both neighbors.


What he gonna do, Jennifer? Make the neighbor move it? This mess is carved
on stone. Or, concrete, to be precise.


Er, did I **** you off somehow?


That's my job. He just takes out his frustration on everyone else.

Jennifer wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Jennifer" wrote in message
oups.com...

It does seem rather odd that his fence is directly down the property
line. Isn't some sort of set-back distance usually required?

What he gonna do, Jennifer? Make the neighbor move it? This mess is carved
on stone. Or, concrete, to be precise.

Er, did I **** you off somehow?

It wouldn't be the first time a fence was moved. I actually asked
because one of my co-workers was recently complaining that his township
made him tear down his fence because it was too close to the sidewalk
and six inches too high.

Sorry to offend. (?)


That's just Dougie, Jennifer...

You're entirely right and if the OP really wants to be a prick about the
deal, that's he's recourse (if there is one) to make the other guy go to
a lot of trouble (over, imo, nothing). But, if he (OP) is so upset as
it sounds like, his choices as I see it are either a) do nothing and
seethe eventually suffering ulcers and a heart attack, b) check on
zoning/subdivision requirements and see if he can start a war legally,
or c) grow up and "live and let live".

He taked to the guy for "5 minutes about fence and color" and expected
that to have become a binding contract? With that description of the
conversation I doubt he even couched it in a form the other guy thought
was anything more than a "What ya' goin' do, eh?" kind of thing, what
less a formal request for a cooperative arrangement.

giga wrote:

Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before my
neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors moving
in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be finished
building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I thought once
they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color fence to put
between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5 minutes about
what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his brown
brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired fence. but
he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go perfectly. anyhow
I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go with his home and mine
since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look stupid
? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of a foot
on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he will
have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my wooden mesh
of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is at
work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if anybody
else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway




If you can get by losing a few feet of usable yard there,you might
consider planting some evergreens in front of that fence. If you do it
yourself it probably would cost about the same or less than a
professionally erected second fence.

That's what I did last year when my next door neighbor's contractors put
in a functional but very messy looking "rock facing" that I had to look
at ... but my neighbor didn't. See:

http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/jeff/mmiv.html

As I was finishing up my digging and planting, the neighbor came over
and insisted on paying for the evergreens. I told him it would be
hypocritical of me to take his money because I have always said that as
far as "looks" go my rights end at my property line and that if I don't
like what I see it's my job to screen it out.

He persisted in offering, so I let him write a nice check to a worthy
local charity we support and everyone felt good.

It's a year later and those evergreens are almost touching each other
now and have increased enough in height so they effectively block off
our view of that mess.

Hope you can work something out too.

Jeff



--
Jeffry Wisnia

(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."

"giga" wrote in message
...
lol
its the chicken fence (chain link fence)
they call it frost here


Well, in that case, just get some of those cheesy strips that go in chain
link. Make a modern design.

When he asks, just say he didn't ask you before he did the chainlink. You
figgered you didn't have to ask before doing the beautification.

Steve

Jeff Wisnia wrote:

That's what I did last year when my next door neighbor's contractors put
in a functional but very messy looking "rock facing" that I had to look
at ... but my neighbor didn't. See:

http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/jeff/mmiv.html


Great solution! I like That would be a great way to hide a chain
link fence, too, if there's room.

--
Jennifer

Jennifer wrote:

Jeff Wisnia wrote:


That's what I did last year when my next door neighbor's contractors put
in a functional but very messy looking "rock facing" that I had to look
at ... but my neighbor didn't. See:

http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/jeff/mmiv.html



Great solution! I like That would be a great way to hide a chain
link fence, too, if there's room.

--
Jennifer


If there's no room for trees plant soem type of vines against it.

In alt.home.repair on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:36:52 -0400 "giga"
posted:

I agree with what you guys a are saying.

But for me it's the principle. Why should he get his nice fence to match his
home? We paid good money for our homes (still paying for the home lol). He
should have been a decent man and talked to me about it. What bothers me is
I could have put mine up before he moved in.

A bitter lesson. A friend of mine who was in law school got a summer
job at a court in Staten Island. He said many people had never owned
their own home before, nor their parents, because they grew up in
apartments in Brooklyn and NY. So there would be a lot of fights over
property, each man thinking owning his house made him a king. The
best example were the two who shared a driveway, but had separate
garages. That's obviously effecient and prevents there being as much
pavement as with 2 driveways.

There was a feud, and one guy built a fence, just on his side of the
property line, down the driveway.

Of course that is not legal because the other guy has an easement to
use the driveway. That's not like your situation. But the first guy
had to pay for the fence, and then pay to take it away.

But I gave him the benefit of
the doubt and said ok lets wait for him and see what happens.

Another thing I didn't mention is I'm up in Canada in the province of Quebec
where French is predominate language. I'm English and he is French so maybe
he feels this is his Province so he thinks he has more right to his own
fence than I did

You're laughing. I thought you were serious.

But I do understand what you guys are saying. but you don't what it feels
like till you have it done to you.

Joeway





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In alt.home.repair on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:36:52 -0400 "giga"
posted:

I agree with what you guys a are saying.

But for me it's the principle. Why should he get his nice fence to match his
home?

BTW, there is at least one other principle applicable:

"It's my house and I don't have to agree with this other guy on color.

Application:

"I don't want black. Contrary to what he thinks it doesn't match both.
It matches neither. (If anything black goes with grey a lot better
than it goes with brown, but this selfish guy wants black.) I don't
want white either. Rather than fight with him, which won't be
productive, I'll just put in my fence."

Now I would have preferred a No myself. I'd rather a girl said she
didn't want to go out than let me call over and over and be ignored.
I think it shows moral inferiority that so many girls behaved this
second way. But so many people do it that way, I'm sure plenty people
think it is morally acceptable, even morally preferable. Many
children are taught that this is the way to handle disagreements. To
avoid them. (By not discussing this with you. Beyond the 5 minutes.)



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In alt.home.repair on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:25:11 GMT "Edwin Pawlowski"
posted:


"giga" wrote in message
I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color was not what I
wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.

I am not at war with him.

Yes, you may not want to admit it, but putting up a spite fence is war.

He paid for it, get over it and move on. Some day you may need help from a
neighbor. You just never know.
Ed

He needs help now. Maybe he can get this guy to buy his new fence for
him at the employee discount. Yes, OP, you won't be able to complain
anymore, but you'll probably save a lot of money. (Although get prices
elsewhere and at his place as if you weren't getting a discount, so
you'll know if and how much you are.)

He doesn't really *need* help, but this is the one and maybe the only
thing the next door neigbhor can do for the OP that will really
benefit the OP and won't cost the neighbor anything, I would think.



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In alt.home.repair on 28 Jul 2005 14:03:52 -0700 "Jennifer"
posted:



giga wrote:
lol
its the chicken fence (chain link fence)
they call it frost here

Unfortunately, painting one side of a chain-link fence does not sound
practical...

I agree. The paint will be pushed around and run down over parts of
his side and his side will look terrible. The other guy's side. It
will be vandalism without permission, preferably signed. And a
painted fence will require repainting. Doesn't this brown fence have
the color well stuck to the fence?

I would not put up a second fence, though. What he did definitely
sounds rude, but putting up a second fence will only hurt you in the
long run. Maintenance would be a real pain.

It does seem rather odd that his fence is directly down the property
line. Isn't some sort of set-back distance usually required? Make

I don't know if that is true, but I also woudn't assume the OP is
right that it is on the property line. It could be a quarter inch on
his side. Another reason not to paint it without his permission.

sure you check any local regulations about fence height and distance
away from property lines, if you do decide to go with a second fence.

Gray/white/brown is actually not a bad combination... I would let it

Now that yoe mention it, I agree. And brown always goes with hte
outside, becuase the dirt is brown. Brown and green are my favorite
house colors, inside and out.

My inclination was to want the white fence, because he wanted it, but
if I were in his shoes, I realize now that I would get brown, in fact
the exact same fence that the neighbor put up, because I think it is
more important that the fencees match than that the fence sort of
match the house.

I made sure that my next door neighbor got roofs at the same time from
the same guy, same color, no seam down the middle; and now that he
wants vinyl siding, I'm considering getting it too so the houses will
still match (and I'm a little tired of painting.)



go, if I were you. It's not worth the aggravation.

Good luck.


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In alt.home.repair on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:31:44 -0400 "giga"
posted:

Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before my
neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors moving
in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be finished
building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I thought once
they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color fence to put
between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5 minutes about
what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his brown
brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired fence. but
he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go perfectly. anyhow
I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go with his home and mine
since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

Cool.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

Yes, and it looks stupid. When they find out you put up the second
one, you'll look stupid.

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

If there is no HOA, yes. And even if there is a HOA, he doesn't have
to use your preferred color, unless his is against the rules.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look stupid
? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of a foot
on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he will
have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my wooden mesh
of a foot above it.

How are you going to mow the lawn between the two?

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is at
work to.

So you are at war with him. You're just diplomatic when you see him
in person. Diplomacy is war by other means.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if anybody
else has been in this situation and what did they do.

Anyone who works for a fence company knows what kind of fence he wants
before he even sees his next house, and certainly as soon as he sees
it. He doesn't have to wait to move in to know.

I've seen quite a few townhouses or doubles (side by side duplexes)
where they were originally built the same, but they put roofs on
separately, in different colors even, they put different siding on, or
paint the entire house different colors. That's worse than a fence.
(Is this fence in the front yard or back?)

In fact, that's the reason townhouses now are built with all adjecent
houses different colors. Because when n'hhood were all the same
color, the neighbors would on purpose or for laziness paint or trim
with different colors. So some would be the same and some would be
different and it looked terrible. Now they are all different, so it
doesn't look bad when a given pair doesn't match.

So far my strip is ok, with everything russet brown, but at the top of
the hill, where it was supposed to be harvest gold or something, a
half a dozen people bought paint without finding out where they were
supposed to buy it, got the wrong colors, and that strip looks
terrible. I sort of like it better when the houses are all the same
color, but having them all different colors is insurance against what
happened at the top of my hill.

thanks very much

joeway


If I were in his shoes, I wouldn't want black. (Actually my preferred
finish is no finish, and that's all that's permitted where I live. I
should have checked in advance that that was a rule, but I did notice
at least that any fences were unfinished. I wouldn't even have a
fence but I'm at the end of a group, and everyone took shortcuts
across my yard when the previous owner owned it. He put in the fence,
but I probably would have too.



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In alt.home.repair on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:18:29 -0500 Duane Bozarth
posted:

Jennifer wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Jennifer" wrote in message
oups.com...

It does seem rather odd that his fence is directly down the property
line. Isn't some sort of set-back distance usually required?

What he gonna do, Jennifer? Make the neighbor move it? This mess is carved
on stone. Or, concrete, to be precise.

Er, did I **** you off somehow?

It wouldn't be the first time a fence was moved. I actually asked
because one of my co-workers was recently complaining that his township
made him tear down his fence because it was too close to the sidewalk
and six inches too high.

Sorry to offend. (?)


That's just Dougie, Jennifer...

You're entirely right and if the OP really wants to be a prick about the
deal, that's he's recourse (if there is one) to make the other guy go to
a lot of trouble (over, imo, nothing). But, if he (OP) is so upset as

If he had to move the fence, there isn't a chance in hell the new one
would be a different color from this one. In fact it probably would
be this one, but maybe not, for one reason only. The man *owns* the
fence company.

In fact, if he had to move it, he would likely write it up as a
mistake of the fence company, or of the owner, which the fence company
chooses to fix for free, and that way it would be a deductible
business expense, and if there is a corporate income tax in Quebec,
the cost would be deductible from the gross profit of the company. I
don't think that would even be improper.

it sounds like, his choices as I see it are either a) do nothing and
seethe eventually suffering ulcers and a heart attack, b) check on
zoning/subdivision requirements and see if he can start a war legally,
or c) grow up and "live and let live".

I agree.

He taked to the guy for "5 minutes about fence and color" and expected
that to have become a binding contract? With that description of the
conversation I doubt he even couched it in a form the other guy thought
was anything more than a "What ya' goin' do, eh?" kind of thing, what
less a formal request for a cooperative arrangement.

Very good point. Maybe he wasn't avoiding an argument so much as he
thought there was nothing to argue about. He's thinking: "the other
guy seems to like black, but it doesn't seem that important to him.
.... No, I definitely don't want black. We'll go with brown like I've
wanted from the beginning."

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In alt.home.repair on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:35:39 -0400 Jeff Wisnia
posted:

If you can get by losing a few feet of usable yard there,you might
consider planting some evergreens in front of that fence. If you do it
yourself it probably would cost about the same or less than a
professionally erected second fence.

That's what I did last year when my next door neighbor's contractors put
in a functional but very messy looking "rock facing" that I had to look
at ... but my neighbor didn't. See:

http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/jeff/mmiv.html

As I was finishing up my digging and planting, the neighbor came over
and insisted on paying for the evergreens. I told him it would be
hypocritical of me to take his money because I have always said that as
far as "looks" go my rights end at my property line and that if I don't
like what I see it's my job to screen it out.

He persisted in offering, so I let him write a nice check to a worthy
local charity we support and everyone felt good.

It's a year later and those evergreens are almost touching each other
now and have increased enough in height so they effectively block off
our view of that mess.

Hope you can work something out too.

Jeff



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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:36:52 -0400, "giga" wrote:

I agree with what you guys a are saying.

But for me it's the principle. Why should he get his nice fence to match his
home?

+++++++++++++ Its his Fence and his money...

We paid good money for our homes (still paying for the home lol).

++++++++++++ We all did.. and most of us are still paying also

I could have put mine up before he moved in. But I gave him the benefit of
the doubt and said ok lets wait for him and see what happens.

++++++++++++ Honestly did you wait because you were praying he would
even want a fence , and if so would he split the cost with you

If you want to get even...then just mow your lawn about 2 foor short
of "his" fence"....by midsummer the fence will be hidden...

Seriously....not much you can do about it...

Bob Griffiths

LOL

The guy asks for you people to give opinions and you guys tell him forget it
about it ..invite the guy in to bang your wife. lol are you guys spineless
wimps or what.

A mans home is his castle. If joeway wants to build a second fence then
build it man. show this fool he can't mess with you and screw him up.

Big deal if he owns a fence company, I'm a porn star this doesn't give me
the right to go and bang the guys next door wife.

I say build that second fence and teach the prick a lesson. Make sure you
put that foot higher than his fence and make sure he sees his side a nice
light green to go with brown fence.

Anyhow let me know what you decide but don't listen to these want be saints.
I bet they are the ones who build their fences without talking to their
neighbors too.

Peace out

"giga" wrote in message
...
Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before
my neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors
moving in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be
finished building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I
thought once they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color
fence to put between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5
minutes about what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his
brown brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired
fence. but he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go
perfectly. anyhow I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go
with his home and mine since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look
stupid ? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of
a foot on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he
will have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my
wooden mesh of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is
at work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if
anybody else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway

hmmm, a "Fence War" between a disgruntled homeowner and a Fencing
contractor.
Sounds like the plot for a new reality TV show! Lemme grab my chair and a
few beers to watch this one!
When the fences get to about 12 ft. high and all sorts of obnoxious colors,
a winner could be crowned....
hmmm, what's the Fox Channel phone number?

Seriously, another option you may consider, one which I don't prefer myself,
is to weave those filler panels into the fence.
They're strips of thin metal that you weave into it. You could even paint
your side your color and his side could be painted his color.
Cheers,
cc



"giga" wrote in message
...
Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before
my neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors
moving in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be
finished building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I
thought once they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color
fence to put between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5
minutes about what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his
brown brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired
fence. but he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go
perfectly. anyhow I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go
with his home and mine since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look
stupid ? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of
a foot on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he
will have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my
wooden mesh of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is
at work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if
anybody else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway

I'm not sure why you've chosen to be offended by your neighbour's
decisions. Was it because he installed a fence that didn't exactly
meet your expectations at a time which didn't exactly meet your
expectations?
Then you ask thousands of strangers for advice on building a spite
fence.
Then you say you smile and talk politely with him (on one side of your
face) while plotting your ugly revenge (on the other side of your
face).

Perhaps your neighour sensed some inflexibility and immaturity on your
part during your 5-minute chat with him and he decided it was easier
to press on without you.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:31:44 -0400, "giga" wrote:

Hi

I just bought a new home in a new Development. I moved in 1 month before my
neighbor on the right moved in. When I found out that the neighbors moving
in owned a fencing company I decided to wait for their home to be finished
building and for them to move in before putting up a fence. I thought once
they moved in we can discuss and talk what kind and color fence to put
between our homes. Once they moved in we talked for about 5 minutes about
what kind of a fence and color.

Now my house is Light gray brick in the front and white siding and his brown
brick and brown siding. He decided on putting up a frost or wired fence. but
he chose brown for it. For my house I think white would go perfectly. anyhow
I mentioned to him why not black this way it will go with his home and mine
since black would match his brown house too.

Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look stupid
? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of a foot
on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he will
have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my wooden mesh
of a foot above it.

I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is at
work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if anybody
else has been in this situation and what did they do.

thanks very much

joeway

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Like this one?

http://a7.notlong.com


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On 28 Jul 2005 14:10:51 -0700, "Jennifer" wrote:

Sorry to offend. (?)

Know of fence.


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Simple solution: Plant vines that will attack the fence.

Kudzoo is good.

Steve

I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

Pick your battles carefully.
This isn't one of them, and is not worth the bad blood between neighbors.
Just view it as a free fence, to hell with the color.
Grow something on it, and make it green. It is on *your* property, and you
have the right to do anything if it is truly on the line, as parts of it
must fall on your side, eg, half the posts..
And chill out.

Yea man! Build that fence! That'll teach'em! Show him who's boss. One
foot higher -- ha! Take that. And not brown either -- WOOD -- that'll
just set the french bas**rd right. Thinkin he owns the whole damn
province. Next thing you know he'll be trying to put up his damn brown
fences around the whole territory, trying to keep us English guys out.
But no, you'll show him. Man, I can just see it. He'll just be sitting
over eating his fromage thinking, "damn, thought I had that guy right
where I wanted him -- all cornered in by a brown fence -- then he goes
and builds a WOOD fence. And on ALL SIDES too. Man he's tough. And I
though he was some kind of nice guy -- talks to me so nice an all --
then I come home and BAM, he's got his OWN fence now." Yea. Build that
second fence. Hell, why dont you build TWO fences, and really show him
you mean business. Hell, if it were me, I'd start putting up steel roll
shutters on my windows, and bricking over my doors. Guy wouldn't know
what hit him. Smack! Us english, we can wall ourselves in bettern than
a frenchman any day.

In article , giga says...


Anyhow not 3 days later I left for work and he put up his brown fence
anyways. I called my kids at home and told them to pass the phone to them
and told them I would not pay them anything for the fence since the color
was not what I wanted.
He said fine don't worry about it.

OKkkayyy - you got a free fence, for the 'cost' of not having the designer color
you wanted. He didn't want to deal with the hassle over color, and decided to
pay for it all.

(Black fence?? I don't even think I've ever seen a black fence...)


I was and still am ****ed. He put the fence right on the line of our land.
My question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side ?

Yes. We have a pair like that on our block.


I am planning on putting up my own fence on every side of me now. No more
Mr. nice guy anymore. People have said to me its his house he can do
whatever he wants so therefore I am going do whatever I want too.

SO question is has anyone seen 2 fences side by side and does it look stupid
? I was thinking of putting a wood fence 5 foot high with a mesh of a foot
on top for a total of 6 feet. his fence is 5 foot tall. This way he will
have his nice brown fence that matches his home and then see my wooden mesh
of a foot above it.

Well, OK - the mesh (not sure what you mean by 'mesh' - a lattice top?) may be a
bit 'in the face' to your neighbor about your fence dispute, but, Okkaay - it's
your house too.

What the pair of fences in my neighbohood say is "we don't like each other".


I am not at war with him. I smile and talk very polite with him. But wait
till he sees what I'm goning to install and i'm going to do it when he is at
work to.

Anyhow I would like to hear your opinions on this situation. and if anybody
else has been in this situation and what did they do.

Does your local laws allow you to paint your side of the fence? Look into
that...

Banty