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This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? Scrim |
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Scrim wrote:
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? You need to install filters in your usenet program to drop threads featuring subjects and senders including words such as shoes, nike, wholesale ... -- Adrian C |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim"
wrote: This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? The only sure fix is to take control of your own news feed and filter it aggressively before the feed gets to your client. One approach is to install a local server on the same PC as your usenet client. The server connects upstream, filters the traffic, and then supplies your client application, typically through the loopback IP. As a server it has access to the complete contents of every posting: all header lines and the body text. That presents opportunities for filtering that just are not possible when only a limited set of headers are used. See http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/index.html for some examples. -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA |
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Scrim wrote:
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? Scrim I've just been through this experience myself and am still wondering why it is only this group for me. Anyway, I have a message filter now that looks for "cheap, wholesale, shoes, handbags, retail, quality", you get the drift :-) Works so far. (in Thunderbird) Still, it's a mystery. Some say google is the culprit, probably true. They bought dejanews and the rest is history. Tony |
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Meat Plow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim" wrote: This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? Scrim I guess Virgin doesn't filter it out for you so you'll have to do it yourself. Just get a decent newsreader, I use Thunderbird. Set filters to junk all messages from the following @yeah.net @live.cn - in fact any .cn @126.com @163.com and all @.gmail (You might miss a few genuine posts by blocking gmail, but it`a small price to pay. Anyone serious tends to not use gmail/hotmail/yahoo etc.) You can check the filter logs from time to time and any posters you inadvertently filtered out, you can add back in individually. When ever you get spam, add the address to the list. Ron |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:45:00 +0000, Ron
wrote: Meat Plow wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim" wrote: This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? Scrim I guess Virgin doesn't filter it out for you so you'll have to do it yourself. Just get a decent newsreader, I use Thunderbird. Set filters to junk all messages from the following - in fact any .cn and all @.gmail (You might miss a few genuine posts by blocking gmail, but it`a small price to pay. Anyone serious tends to not use gmail/hotmail/yahoo etc.) You can check the filter logs from time to time and any posters you inadvertently filtered out, you can add back in individually. When ever you get spam, add the address to the list. Ron I use Agent, but I don't filter anything. All the groups I subscribe to get occassional spam, but this group gets 10 times more. Why would it be different than the rest? |
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On Oct 28, 6:28*am, "Scrim" wrote:
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? Scrim How do you gain access? How do you read it? I use google for access and read using Opera 9.64 on Win98 As a result, 70-80% of the postings show up. I've been told to PAY for better access. Yeah, that makes sense. I should pay for something when the ones gaining, the spammers, should pay. So, what to do? There is another thread here that shows a java script to highlight the spam so it's very easy to ignore |
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I use Google to access, but I also use the free "Trollkiller" program
to filter out the spam and religious wackos. http://www.source9.com/trollkiller.html There's also a free filter from holysmoke: http://www.holysmoke.org/ggf/index.htm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:48:30 -0400, Rich Webb
wrote: Spammers can check GoogleGroups for groups with high activity in particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them. Yep. They also check to see how many people actually click on the inevitable URL included in the spam message. It's a tiny percentage of the users, but that's where they allegedly make their money. The more clicks, the more spam. (Feed the pigeons and what do you get? More pigeons). Looks like VirginMedia outsources their usenet news to Giganews. I'm also using Giganews. After some minor keyword filtering, I get about 10 spam messages in this newsgroup per day. No big deal. In Agent, I just hit the del key and they're gone. If they're repetitive, I just add it to the built in spam filter. However, if you REALLY want to get rid of the spam, just hire a hitman and make a few spammers really disappear. If they're that bad a problem, it should be worth the money. Take up a collection. Then start at the top of this list: http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/index.lasso Note that the majority are in the USA. Start at the top and work your way down. Eliminate a few of the top spammers and I'm sure the others will get the clue. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:48:30 -0400, Rich Webb wrote: Spammers can check GoogleGroups for groups with high activity in particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them. Yep. They also check to see how many people actually click on the inevitable URL included in the spam message. It's a tiny percentage of the users, but that's where they allegedly make their money. The more clicks, the more spam. (Feed the pigeons and what do you get? More pigeons). Looks like VirginMedia outsources their usenet news to Giganews. I'm also using Giganews. After some minor keyword filtering, I get about 10 spam messages in this newsgroup per day. No big deal. In Agent, I just hit the del key and they're gone. If they're repetitive, I just add it to the built in spam filter. However, if you REALLY want to get rid of the spam, just hire a hitman and make a few spammers really disappear. If they're that bad a problem, it should be worth the money. Take up a collection. Then start at the top of this list: http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/index.lasso Note that the majority are in the USA. Start at the top and work your way down. Eliminate a few of the top spammers and I'm sure the others will get the clue. I'm not sure, but I don't think we are allowed to do that sort of thing over here. Ron I watched The Sopranos once, I was very disappointed, hardly any singing at all! |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:59:38 +0000, Ron
wrote: I'm not sure, but I don't think we are allowed to do that sort of thing over here. There's probably a law making just about everything illegal. I can't make it through a day without breaking at least one or two laws (other than traffic violations). http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news7022.html http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3552/need-a-hitman-illegal-aliens-available-for-hire-thank-ices-myers-torres-for-murder-of-detroit-couple/ (plenty more). If spam is causing such a problem for ISP's, individuals, companies, governments, etc, it should be fairly easy to take up a collection and do what's necessary to "set and example". I'm sure the judge will understand after his mailbox is filled with spam. I'm not suggesting any new laws or massive enforcement efforts. Just a high profile extermination of some of the major perpetrators. The others will surely get the clue and find something else to trash. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 10/28/2009 6:06 AM TonyS spake thus:
Scrim wrote: This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? I've just been through this experience myself and am still wondering why it is only this group for me. It's definitely not just this newsgroup; lots of others with similar high levels of spam. Still, it's a mystery. Some say google is the culprit, probably true. They bought dejanews and the rest is history. You've got that right. Google is the main culprit. -- Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom? - harvested from Usenet |
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In article , Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:48:30 -0400, Rich Webb wrote: Spammers can check GoogleGroups for groups with high activity in particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them. Yep. They also check to see how many people actually click on the inevitable URL included in the spam message. It's a tiny percentage of the users, but that's where they allegedly make their money. The more clicks, the more spam. (Feed the pigeons and what do you get? More pigeons). I have clicked on it many times, and I go directly to the CONTACT point and send my regards. If everybody who complains did this, there would be no spam from those guys. Its mostly one company in China. greg Looks like VirginMedia outsources their usenet news to Giganews. I'm also using Giganews. After some minor keyword filtering, I get about 10 spam messages in this newsgroup per day. No big deal. In Agent, I just hit the del key and they're gone. If they're repetitive, I just add it to the built in spam filter. However, if you REALLY want to get rid of the spam, just hire a hitman and make a few spammers really disappear. If they're that bad a problem, it should be worth the money. Take up a collection. Then start at the top of this list: http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/index.lasso Note that the majority are in the USA. Start at the top and work your way down. Eliminate a few of the top spammers and I'm sure the others will get the clue. |
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Robert Macy wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:28*am, "Scrim" wrote: This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed? Scrim How do you gain access? How do you read it? I use google for access and read using Opera 9.64 on Win98 As a result, 70-80% of the postings show up. I've been told to PAY for better access. Yeah, that makes sense. I should pay for something when the ones gaining, the spammers, should pay. So, what to do? There is another thread here that shows a java script to highlight the spam so it's very easy to ignore Eternal-september is free but it does require registration. They seem to do a pretty good job of eliminating spam. Jerry |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:59:38 +0000, Ron wrote: I'm not sure, but I don't think we are allowed to do that sort of thing over here. There's probably a law making just about everything illegal. I can't make it through a day without breaking at least one or two laws (other than traffic violations). http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news7022.html http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3552/need-a-hitman-illegal-aliens-available-for-hire-thank-ices-myers-torres-for-murder-of-detroit-couple/ (plenty more). If spam is causing such a problem for ISP's, individuals, companies, governments, etc, it should be fairly easy to take up a collection and do what's necessary to "set and example". I'm sure the judge will understand after his mailbox is filled with spam. I'm not suggesting any new laws or massive enforcement efforts. Just a high profile extermination of some of the major perpetrators. The others will surely get the clue and find something else to trash. Someone killed Russia's top spammer a few years ago: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=russian+spammer+killed&aq=1&oq=rus sian+spamm&aqi=g3 -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary! |
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On 10/28/2009 11:42 AM GregS spake thus:
In article , Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:48:30 -0400, Rich Webb wrote: Spammers can check GoogleGroups for groups with high activity in particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them. Yep. They also check to see how many people actually click on the inevitable URL included in the spam message. It's a tiny percentage of the users, but that's where they allegedly make their money. The more clicks, the more spam. (Feed the pigeons and what do you get? More pigeons). I have clicked on it many times, and I go directly to the CONTACT point and send my regards. If everybody who complains did this, there would be no spam from those guys. Its mostly one company in China. Wrong. Complaining like that will have *zero* effect. Spammers just don't give a **** how many people like you they offend. All they care about is reaching enough suckers to sell whatever it is they're selling. It's also a worldwide phenomonon. China has no monopoly on spam. -- Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom? - harvested from Usenet |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:12:20 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Someone killed Russia's top spammer a few years ago: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=russian+spammer+killed&aq=1&oq=rus sian+spamm&aqi=g3 One down. A few more to go, maybe. The killing was allegedly robbery related, not a retaliation for spamming: http://www.moscow-life.com/news/news/7-Russian_police_say_robbers_killed_spammer_Kushnir That was followed 2 years later by a hoax: http://www.pcworld.com/article/138383/reported_assassination_of_russian_spammer_a_hoax.h tml -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:12:20 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Someone killed Russia's top spammer a few years ago: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=russian+spammer+killed&aq=1&oq=rus sian+spamm&aqi=g3 One down. A few more to go, maybe. The killing was allegedly robbery related, not a retaliation for spamming: http://www.moscow-life.com/news/news/7-Russian_police_say_robbers_killed_spammer_Kushnir That was followed 2 years later by a hoax: http://www.pcworld.com/article/138383/reported_assassination_of_russian_spammer_a_hoax.h tml What bugs me is all the Asian and other spam I receive in languages I can't read. Do these morons think people are going to learn another language, just to read their crap? -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary! |
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[Spammers] also check to see how many people actually click on the inevitable URL included in the spam message. GregS wrote: I have clicked on it many times, and I go directly to the CONTACT point and send my regards. **Read** what JeffL said. You validate their existence with every click. DO NOT **EVER** CLICK SPAM LINKS. The idiots who click the links from Google Groups are the **REAL** problem. As JeffL said, they look at the referring URL and spam those URLs MORE. If everybody who complains did this, there would be no spam from those guys. That's the most foolish thing I've heard in a long time. If you want to complain to someone, complain to their PROVIDERS (for Google Groupers, that's their ISPs). Its mostly one company in China. It's unlikely that it's one monolythic manufacturing company. ....and how hard do you think it is to find someone in China with a lot of time on his hands and set him up with an Internet connection? It's not even coming from one access provider. The truth is that NO ONE in Red China gives a ****. The country is populated with criminals. Don't waste your time on those. JUST IGNORE THEM.[1] You sometimes see results with reports to Indian, Pakistani, and Indonesian ISPs. Taiwanese ISPs also seem to be responsive. .. ....and your blockquoting 2-deep and in-full seems extreme. .. .. [1] Now, if you have a BOTNET at your disposal, *THAT* would make your effort worthwhile. As it is, however, your puny effort just comfirms that their methods are working. |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:31:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: What bugs me is all the Asian and other spam I receive in languages I can't read. Do these morons think people are going to learn another language, just to read their crap? Well, there are about 845 million Mandarin Chinese speaking people on the planet, compared to about 341 million English speaking people. Hindi and Urdu total about 427 million. Arabic has 422 million. I hate to tell you this, but English is a minority language. At current grown rates, the official language of the planet could eventually become Chinese: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers Why wait? Learn Chinese today. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
hate to tell you this, but English is a minority language. At current grown rates, the official language of the planet could eventually become Chinese: There has always been a language of trade and diplomacy, recently up to WWII, it was French. After WWII it became the US dialect of English. That has grown into what is becoming a dialect of English used on the Internet, which will be the common languge for probably 20 or 30 years or more. I'm not talking about "leet" (WTF, OMG, etc), but something like "I can haz cheezburger?" Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM |
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In article , JeffM wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote: [Spammers] also check to see how many people actually click on the inevitable URL included in the spam message. GregS wrote: I have clicked on it many times, and I go directly to the CONTACT point and send my regards. **Read** what JeffL said. You validate their existence with every click. DO NOT **EVER** CLICK SPAM LINKS. There is NO click in my Usenet reader. All you do is identify your IP. The idiots who click the links from Google Groups are the **REAL** problem. As JeffL said, they look at the referring URL and spam those URLs MORE. If everybody who complains did this, there would be no spam from those guys. That's the most foolish thing I've heard in a long time. If you want to complain to someone, complain to their PROVIDERS (for Google Groupers, that's their ISPs). Its mostly one company in China. It's unlikely that it's one monolythic manufacturing company. ....and how hard do you think it is to find someone in China with a lot of time on his hands and set him up with an Internet connection? If you would go to their websites, you will find exactly the same format and contact info. ANd you GET replies, wasting THEIR time. It's not even coming from one access provider. The truth is that NO ONE in Red China gives a ****. The country is populated with criminals. Don't waste your time on those. JUST IGNORE THEM.[1] You sometimes see results with reports to Indian, Pakistani, and Indonesian ISPs. Taiwanese ISPs also seem to be responsive. .. ....and your blockquoting 2-deep and in-full seems extreme. .. .. [1] Now, if you have a BOTNET at your disposal, *THAT* would make your effort worthwhile. As it is, however, your puny effort just comfirms that their methods are working. Never complain, and go on with your life as it is. greg |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:31:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: What bugs me is all the Asian and other spam I receive in languages I can't read. Do these morons think people are going to learn another language, just to read their crap? Well, there are about 845 million Mandarin Chinese speaking people on the planet, compared to about 341 million English speaking people. Hindi and Urdu total about 427 million. Arabic has 422 million. I hate to tell you this, but English is a minority language. At current grown rates, the official language of the planet could eventually become Chinese: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers Why wait? Learn Chinese today. Why bother. I'm old enough it doesn't matter. Today's batch was mostly from Russia, in Cyrillic. -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary! |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:31:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: What bugs me is all the Asian and other spam I receive in languages I can't read. Do these morons think people are going to learn another language, just to read their crap? Well, there are about 845 million Mandarin Chinese speaking people on the planet, compared to about 341 million English speaking people. Hindi and Urdu total about 427 million. Arabic has 422 million. I hate to tell you this, but English is a minority language. At current grown rates, the official language of the planet could eventually become Chinese: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers Why wait? Learn Chinese today. Why bother. I'm old enough it doesn't matter. Today's batch was mostly from Russia, in Cyrillic. -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary! |
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:39:04 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
wrote: There has always been a language of trade and diplomacy, recently up to WWII, it was French. After WWII it became the US dialect of English. One of my friends is a doctor originally from Pakistan. He learned English so that he could emigrate to California. He recently remarked that he would have done better to learn Spanish. That has grown into what is becoming a dialect of English used on the Internet, which will be the common languge for probably 20 or 30 years or more. I'm not talking about "leet" (WTF, OMG, etc), but something like "I can haz cheezburger?" Nope. The language of the future will be SMS-talk and other languages that consist mostly of abbreviations, acronyms, and pictograms. Tomorrows principle languages will be what the kids of today are using: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_language http://www.nationaltextingregistry.us/acronym_listing/ Hopefully, I won't be around to see it happen. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:39:04 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
wrote: There has always been a language of trade and diplomacy, recently up to WWII, it was French. After WWII it became the US dialect of English. One of my friends is a doctor originally from Pakistan. He learned English so that he could emigrate to California. He recently remarked that he would have done better to learn Spanish. That has grown into what is becoming a dialect of English used on the Internet, which will be the common languge for probably 20 or 30 years or more. I'm not talking about "leet" (WTF, OMG, etc), but something like "I can haz cheezburger?" Nope. The language of the future will be SMS-talk and other languages that consist mostly of abbreviations, acronyms, and pictograms. Tomorrows principle languages will be what the kids of today are using: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_language http://www.nationaltextingregistry.us/acronym_listing/ Hopefully, I won't be around to see it happen. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers!
I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there). So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader (terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round compared to Windows Mail? Scrim |
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In article , "Scrim" wrote:
Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers! I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there). So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader (terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round compared to Windows Mail? Scrim I started to use Thunderbird, and is a very good newsreader, until I managed to delete my mail. I went back to NX for usenet. Having separate things for each is a good thing. greg |
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Why So Much Spam Here?
On 10/30/2009 9:38 AM Scrim spake thus:
So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader (terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round compared to Windows Mail? To answer your question, newsreader = news client = program to read Usenet news = (usually) email program. All the same thing, comes in many flavors. Mozilla Thunderbird is what I use and I like it, generally (though it does suffer from some maladies which are due to "open source" construction). It's free; why not just try it? -- Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom? - harvested from Usenet |
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Why So Much Spam Here?
Scrim wrote:
Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers! I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there). So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader (terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round compared to Windows Mail? If by "like that one from Mozilla" you are refering to Thunderbird, it is not a dedicated newsreader. Thunderbird also has provisions for email, RSS and newsgroups accounts. See the following for further details: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/ FWIW, there is also a new release coming out shortly; you can grab the beta version of it (3.04b) from the following location: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-U...ses/downloads/ Again, FWIW, I've been using in on my linux system since it was released and am quite please with it. One of the upgrades for this version is improved filtering capabilities. One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to the following free access newsgroup server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup. You might also be interested in the following site for general information on newsreaders, selecting news servers etc: http://slyck.com/ |
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Why So Much Spam Here?
On Oct 30, 12:23*pm, propman wrote:
...snip... One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to the following free access newsgroup server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with their service. *Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup. I signed up. But, where do you find the newsgroups? |
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Why So Much Spam Here?
In article , propman wrote:
Scrim wrote: Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers! I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there). So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader (terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round compared to Windows Mail? If by "like that one from Mozilla" you are refering to Thunderbird, it is not a dedicated newsreader. Thunderbird also has provisions for email, RSS and newsgroups accounts. See the following for further details: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/ FWIW, there is also a new release coming out shortly; you can grab the beta version of it (3.04b) from the following location: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-U...ses/downloads/ Again, FWIW, I've been using in on my linux system since it was released and am quite please with it. One of the upgrades for this version is improved filtering capabilities. One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to the following free access newsgroup server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup. You might also be interested in the following site for general information on newsreaders, selecting news servers etc: http://slyck.com/ Funny it does not expplain Usenet at all and I don't use usenet to get news. Also funny, many of the newsreaders have turned me off, and I continue to use an outdated News Express, even though it has bugs with current opperating systems. It also does not archieve past read posts, nor have spell checking, or index all the groups corectly, but I love it. Greg |
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Why So Much Spam Here?
Robert Macy wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:23 pm, propman wrote: ..snip... One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to the following free access newsgroup server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup. I signed up. But, where do you find the newsgroups? You'll need to install newsreader software like Thunderbird for example: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-U...rbird/all.html |
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Robert Macy wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:23 pm, propman wrote: ..snip... One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to the following free access newsgroup server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup. I signed up. But, where do you find the newsgroups? You'll need to install newsreader software like Thunderbird for example: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-U...rbird/all.html |
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GregS wrote:
In article , propman wrote: Scrim wrote: Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers! I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there). So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader (terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round compared to Windows Mail? If by "like that one from Mozilla" you are refering to Thunderbird, it is not a dedicated newsreader. Thunderbird also has provisions for email, RSS and newsgroups accounts. See the following for further details: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/ FWIW, there is also a new release coming out shortly; you can grab the beta version of it (3.04b) from the following location: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-U...ses/downloads/ Again, FWIW, I've been using in on my linux system since it was released and am quite please with it. One of the upgrades for this version is improved filtering capabilities. One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to the following free access newsgroup server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup. You might also be interested in the following site for general information on newsreaders, selecting news servers etc: http://slyck.com/ Funny it does not expplain Usenet at all Guides: VIDEO Usenet Newsgroups | Usenet Newsgroups | and I don't use usenet to get news. AFAIK, if you are receiving this newsgroup (which is part of usenet), then you are using Usenet. :-) Might want to take a read of the following: http://slyck.com/story1870_Usenet_or_the_Newsgroups Also funny, many of the newsreaders have turned me off, and I continue to use an outdated News Express, even though it has bugs with current opperating systems. It also does not archieve past read posts, nor have spell checking, or index all the groups corectly, but I love it. Heh! I hear ya.....just like old timers and Xnews....when they die they are gonna have to pry it out their hands (figuratively speaking). ;-) |
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Why So Much Spam Here?
GregS wrote:
In article , propman wrote: Scrim wrote: Wow! That's the longest thread I've ever started! Cheers! I'm using Windows Mail to read Newsgroups. I think if I use its filter it will filter my mail as well as newsgroups and I don't want to risk missing any mail (I get so little spam mail I don't need it there). So I'm guessing what I really need to do is use a dedicated newsreader (terminology?) like that one from Mozilla. Then I can set up filtering just in there and presumably it'll be a better newsgroup experience all round compared to Windows Mail? If by "like that one from Mozilla" you are refering to Thunderbird, it is not a dedicated newsreader. Thunderbird also has provisions for email, RSS and newsgroups accounts. See the following for further details: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/ FWIW, there is also a new release coming out shortly; you can grab the beta version of it (3.04b) from the following location: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-U...ses/downloads/ Again, FWIW, I've been using in on my linux system since it was released and am quite please with it. One of the upgrades for this version is improved filtering capabilities. One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to the following free access newsgroup server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup. You might also be interested in the following site for general information on newsreaders, selecting news servers etc: http://slyck.com/ Funny it does not expplain Usenet at all Guides: VIDEO Usenet Newsgroups | Usenet Newsgroups | and I don't use usenet to get news. AFAIK, if you are receiving this newsgroup (which is part of usenet), then you are using Usenet. :-) Might want to take a read of the following: http://slyck.com/story1870_Usenet_or_the_Newsgroups Also funny, many of the newsreaders have turned me off, and I continue to use an outdated News Express, even though it has bugs with current opperating systems. It also does not archieve past read posts, nor have spell checking, or index all the groups corectly, but I love it. Heh! I hear ya.....just like old timers and Xnews....when they die they are gonna have to pry it out their hands (figuratively speaking). ;-) |
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Why So Much Spam Here?
On 10/30/2009 11:50 AM Robert Macy spake thus:
On Oct 30, 12:23 pm, propman wrote: ..snip... One other thing I might suggest is to switch your newsgroup account to the following free access newsgroup server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ I've been using them for a couple of years no and have no complaint with their service. Their spam filtering works as I hardly see any spam and the ones that do slip through is certainly not in magnitude that others here have remarked they are seeing in this newsgroup. I signed up. But, where do you find the newsgroups? You gots to query the news server, which will then serve up a delicious list of all its newsgroups. How to do that depends on what news client you use: for Thunderbird, the command is "Manage newsgroup subscriptions". Other programs may use some variation of "subscribe" (which is a funny concept; you don't actually subscribe to a newsgroup, but just add it to your list of newsgroups to choose from). -- Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom? - harvested from Usenet |
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