Stuart wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I spent less than $50 on Christmas this year. Being disabled, I don't
put up a tree or lights since I have trouble with ladders.

I'm afraid we now use one of the fibre-optic "trees". It's around 18" tall
and sits on small table near the front window. A rotating filter above the
light in the base gives changing colours. We think it's quite attractive
and it's minimum fuss and effort.

We never had "real" trees anyway, my wife used to hate the job of
hoovering up the dropped needles every day.


I haven't put up a tree since I left for the US Army at 20.


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"Ron(UK)" wrote:

In an industry where possibly 40 or 50, radio packs may be used nightly
on a single live show, do you really think they would use the more
expensive solution of using replacable batteries without good reason if
they could get away with using rechargables and saving money?
One microphone failure on a West End or Broadway show could cost a lot
of money and someone his or her job.


It could get the company blacklisted in the industry as well. I've
seen contracts that specified the exact equipment to be used. If yo
can't supply it, you can't have the contract. ANY deviation is breech
of contract.


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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:33:27 +0000 (GMT), the renowned Stuart
wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me.

Quid = Pounds, at the current exchange rate = $1.47

If you remember the 3-letter ISO currency codes, Google will do a lot
of the slogwork for you, and more.

For example, if I would like to know the price of gasoline (petrol) in
China using the obsolete units of my youth, I need only type:

5.1 CNY per liter in CAD per imperial gallon

and it responds with

5.1 (Chinese yuan per liter) = 4.08944735 Canadian dollars per
Imperial gallon

Or combined reciprocal and units conversion:

6.3 liters per 100km in miles per imperial gallon

responds with

6.3 liters per 100km = 44.8382624 miles per Imperial gallon

or

6.3 liters per 100km in miles per gallon

responds with

6.3 liters per 100km = 37.3356481 miles per gallon

(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).


Here is the list of ISO codes (Google does not have them all
available, but the major ones should be there).

http://www.xe.com/iso4217.php


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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:33:27 +0000 (GMT), the renowned Stuart
wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me.

Quid = Pounds, at the current exchange rate = $1.47

If you remember the 3-letter ISO currency codes, Google will do a lot
of the slogwork for you, and more.

For example, if I would like to know the price of gasoline (petrol) in
China using the obsolete units of my youth, I need only type:

5.1 CNY per liter in CAD per imperial gallon

and it responds with

5.1 (Chinese yuan per liter) = 4.08944735 Canadian dollars per
Imperial gallon

Or combined reciprocal and units conversion:

6.3 liters per 100km in miles per imperial gallon

responds with

6.3 liters per 100km = 44.8382624 miles per Imperial gallon

or

6.3 liters per 100km in miles per gallon

responds with

6.3 liters per 100km = 37.3356481 miles per gallon

(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).


Here is the list of ISO codes (Google does not have them all
available, but the major ones should be there).

http://www.xe.com/iso4217.php


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

That's neat. Thanks. I didn't know it was that sophisticated. if it's
tolerant of errors, especially cool. Makes up for many of the annoyances of
Google.

? "Michael A. Terrell" ?????? ??? ??????
m...

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Are you storing them in an oven? I have used Alkaline cells that
were over six years old.

I think it has more to do with who makes the batteries and where
than how they are stored. We get lots of things from Hong Kong,
Singapore and mainland China.

If you think the people who put melanine in powdered milk, or used lead
paint on toys are the only ones who produce cheap junk and label it
has high priced well known brands, you are mistaken.

Here, were most UK and US brands are not officially sold, and grey market
goods are perfectly legal, you never know what you are buying, even if
you
buy it in a well known store.

I expect that it's now the same way elsewhere, except that the name
brands usually are really what you think you are getting.

For example, last Christmas one of the major UK retailers sold a DVD
player
for 10 quid. In the box was a remote and I assume batteries. How much did
those batteries cost, and how many of them surfaced with "brand names" on
them?


I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me. Most remotes here seem
to be shipped with crappy carbon zinc, or no name alkaline cells. Some
are so bad they leak before the item is sold.

The VCR which I got in Kozani (eastern Macedonia, greece's province, not the
country), a Sony, in 1995, had its remote supplied with 2 carbon zinc Sony
AA cells. Well, they lasted until a couple of years ago, the VCR got another
problem and I decided to throw it away to get a sony dvd player (50
euros).:-)
A merry Christmas to everyone!

Right now you can buy a DVD player for US $14 after a $5 rebate. I
saw plenty of them in the 19 to 29 dollar range through the year.

I buy only name brand US made cells when I can. I keep a good
supply on hand for power outages, flashlights & hurricane season. I use
my oldest stock between seasons, and some got quite old. They were well
past the use by dates, but all were still good.




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Stuart wrote:
In article ,
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).

Cos it's the US gallon and the yanks own google :-)

Worse than that, when the US changed liquor bottles to metric, they made
a half-gallon into 1.75 liters! Looks the same size, but lost a bit of
booze!

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:21:10 -0800, Dave Platt wrote:
In article , Michael A.
Terrell wrote:

So do I. They rarely last more than a year before they leak, and some
brands even less. Before they changed from some anonymous Chinese
manufacturer to GPT, the Office Depot brand sold here lasted 3-4
months.

Are you storing them in an oven? I have used Alkaline cells that
were over six years old.

Are those times for cells that have been stored in unused condition, or
for cells that are in a device which is in occasional use?

I believe that the former (shelf life when fully charged) is often a good
deal better than the latter (lifetime once partially discharged). I've
read that even a modest partial discharge of an alkaline cell starts an
electrochemical reaction that can lead to corrosion of the case after a
year or so.

I have a Fujicam that takes AAs - I used to use NiMHs, but they turned
out to be crap, so I got a couple of alkalines, which have lasted now for
at least a year in intermittent duty - the camera is a real current hog,
even when it's off, so I just store the cam with the battery door open.
This means I have to set its clock every time I use it, but I consider
that a small price to pay for the kind of reliability I'm getting.

YMMV, of course.

Cheers!
Rich

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:16:23 -0800, VWWall wrote:
Stuart wrote:
In article ,
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).

Cos it's the US gallon and the yanks own google :-)

Worse than that, when the US changed liquor bottles to metric, they made a
half-gallon into 1.75 liters! Looks the same size, but lost a bit of
booze!

Yes. A liter is more than a quart, so isn't a popular size, since one
is more expensive than a quart. But then they've got a 375 mL bottle,
which is just under a fifth (at the price of a fifth) and 175 mL, just
under a pint, at the price of a pint. So I just buy the 1.75L "half
gallons". Usually, one of the grocery stores will have some store brand
"on special" for about $8.99 + tax. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:16:23 -0800, VWWall
wrote:

Stuart wrote:
In article ,
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).

Cos it's the US gallon and the yanks own google :-)

Worse than that, when the US changed liquor bottles to metric, they made
a half-gallon into 1.75 liters! Looks the same size, but lost a bit of
booze!

Google: 1.75 liters in half gallons

1.75 liters = 0.924602183 half US gallons

Google: (1 - 0.924602183 ) half gallons in fluid ounces

(1 - 0.924602183) * (half US gallons) = 4.82546029 US fluid ounces

This one is fun:

Google: 12 U in mm

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:49:23 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:


If you remember the 3-letter ISO currency codes, Google will do a lot
of the slogwork for you, and more.

If you have Vista and the sidebar applet for currency, you can always
see it, and you can always type a figure in and get the exchange value.

Not using what is available is part of what creates slog work, and is
itself slog work, ready made.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:28:24 -0000, Ron(UK) wrote:

jakdedert wrote:
Ron(UK) wrote:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Peter Hucker wrote:

LESS THAN A YEAR?!?!?! I have Duracells with a use by date of about 4
or 5 years in the future.


So do I. They rarely last more than a year before they leak, and some
brands even less. Before they changed from some anonymous Chinese
manufacturer to GPT, the Office Depot brand sold here lasted 3-4 months.


An awful lot of the 'Duracells' you'll find in discount places,
markets, etc. are chinese fakes. A genuine Procell PP3 has six
cylindrical cells which look like a small AAA cell. The ripoffs I`ve
seen have flat cells. You can barely tell the difference from external
appearances alone - the price should be your guide.

Ron(UK)

They are actually AAAA cells.....

Same in an Energizer, the difference is that the cells in a Procell
are connected by spotwelded on flat metal strips
In an Energizer, pressure alone connects the cells to the top terminals
and bottom conductors. That might explain why they sometimes
inexplicably fail after a few minutes.

I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?

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Peter Hucker wrote:


I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?

Nope, Procells are the same batteries as 'Gold top' Duracells but bulk
packed in tens instead of consumer packed.

Ron(UK)

Ron Johnson wrote:
Peter Hucker wrote:


I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?

Nope, Procells are the same batteries as 'Gold top' Duracells but bulk
packed in tens instead of consumer packed.

Where are they made? Instead of the usual Duracell from the far east,
today my wife brought home one made in Belgium. I expect this is the real
thing and the others are fakes.

Geoff.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
Peter Hucker wrote:

I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?
Nope, Procells are the same batteries as 'Gold top' Duracells but bulk
packed in tens instead of consumer packed.

Where are they made? Instead of the usual Duracell from the far east,
today my wife brought home one made in Belgium. I expect this is the real
thing and the others are fakes.

Geoff.

The genuine ones here have Made in EC printed on them - That`s 'European
Community' Duracell is part of Proctor & Gamble, I`m sure there are
factories in the US and Canada, probably China also.

Ron(UK)

In article ,
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Where are they made? Instead of the usual Duracell from the far east,
today my wife brought home one made in Belgium. I expect this is the real
thing and the others are fakes.

Does it make sense to situate a battery factory in only one country when
your market is the world? One inside the EU can make sense because of
favourable trading conditions within that, but high labour costs there
means the product is unlikely to be competitive world wide.

Incidentally, I've been looking into the comparative costs of alkaline and
lithium and they seem to be priced more or less in direct relation to
their claimed life. And since that claimed life will be a best case
scenario I won't be changing to them for RM use.

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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:09:01 -0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:
Peter Hucker wrote:


I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?

Nope, Procells are the same batteries as 'Gold top' Duracells but bulk
packed in tens instead of consumer packed.

Where are they made? Instead of the usual Duracell from the far east,
today my wife brought home one made in Belgium. I expect this is the real
thing and the others are fakes.

I thought all genuine Duracells were made Belgium. But that was a long time ago, they may have built more factories since then.

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:40:24 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Where are they made? Instead of the usual Duracell from the far east,
today my wife brought home one made in Belgium. I expect this is the real
thing and the others are fakes.

Does it make sense to situate a battery factory in only one country when
your market is the world? One inside the EU can make sense because of
favourable trading conditions within that, but high labour costs there
means the product is unlikely to be competitive world wide.

Incidentally, I've been looking into the comparative costs of alkaline and
lithium and they seem to be priced more or less in direct relation to
their claimed life. And since that claimed life will be a best case
scenario I won't be changing to them for RM use.

I put lithium in smoke alarms to save the bother of changing them more often.

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:49:23 -0000, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:33:27 +0000 (GMT), the renowned Stuart
wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me.

Quid = Pounds, at the current exchange rate = $1.47

If you remember the 3-letter ISO currency codes, Google will do a lot
of the slogwork for you, and more.

Or just use http://www.xe.com/ucc/


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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:33:27 -0000, Stuart wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me.

Quid = Pounds, at the current exchange rate = $1.47

What happened? I thought wer were approaching $2 per quid.

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In article ,
Peter Hucker wrote:

What happened? I thought wer were approaching $2 per quid.

"International financial meltdown". It hasn't just been the US that
has been affected.

When I went over to London for a few days in late October, the pound
was a bit under $2 when I started the trip... right about where it has
been for a long time. About two days after I got there, the UK
financial markets hiccoughed so loudly you could hear 'em from orbit,
and the pound plunged to its lowest rate against the dollar in
decades... I think it was around $1.55 when I left.

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I put lithium in smoke alarms to save the bother
of changing them more often.

What sort of life are you getting? Given the price, I'd hope at least five
years.

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:16:22 -0800, Dave Platt wrote:
In article , Peter Hucker

What happened? I thought wer were approaching $2 per quid.

"International financial meltdown". It hasn't just been the US that has
been affected.

When I went over to London for a few days in late October, the pound was a
bit under $2 when I started the trip... right about where it has been for
a long time. About two days after I got there, the UK financial markets
hiccoughed so loudly you could hear 'em from orbit, and the pound plunged
to its lowest rate against the dollar in decades... I think it was around
$1.55 when I left.

So, you lost money on the trip just changing your money over and back?

Ick! ;-)
Rich

Here is how to tell if a 9 volt battery is good.Stick your tongue on
there.
cuhulin

In article ,
Rich Grise wrote:

So, you lost money on the trip just changing your money over and back?

Ick! ;-)

I would have, if I'd changed more money than I really needed.

As I was, I was lucky. Most of what I spent went on a credit card,
and there was enough of a delay in actually posting/clearing the
charges that most of the charges were processed after the pound did
its nose-dive against the dollar. I think I got the favorable
exchange rate on about 90% of what I spent over there.

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:55:35 -0800, the renowned
(Dave Platt) wrote:

In article ,
Rich Grise wrote:

So, you lost money on the trip just changing your money over and back?

Ick! ;-)

I would have, if I'd changed more money than I really needed.

As I was, I was lucky. Most of what I spent went on a credit card,
and there was enough of a delay in actually posting/clearing the
charges that most of the charges were processed after the pound did
its nose-dive against the dollar. I think I got the favorable
exchange rate on about 90% of what I spent over there.

It would be interesting to plot the exchange rates you on your
statement get vs. the highest and lowest rates for a +/- 2 business
day range around the actual posting date of the transaction. Just to
see if they push the transaction time stamp around to retroactively
extract the maximum amount of money from the cardholder. On top of the
2.5% they typically charge above the interbank rate.


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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:16:22 -0000, Dave Platt wrote:

In article ,
Peter Hucker wrote:

What happened? I thought wer were approaching $2 per quid.

"International financial meltdown". It hasn't just been the US that
has been affected.

When I went over to London for a few days in late October, the pound
was a bit under $2 when I started the trip... right about where it has
been for a long time. About two days after I got there, the UK
financial markets hiccoughed so loudly you could hear 'em from orbit,
and the pound plunged to its lowest rate against the dollar in
decades... I think it was around $1.55 when I left.

I'm enjoying this "recession" - all my interest rates have fallen, and so have the minimum credit card payments. And shops keep lowering their prices.

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:19:18 -0000, William Sommerwerck wrote:

I put lithium in smoke alarms to save the bother
of changing them more often.

What sort of life are you getting? Given the price, I'd hope at least five
years.

I haven't had one run out yet (18 months and counting). But the Duracells were lasting only 6 months. They're cheap smoke alarms.

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:19:18 -0000, William Sommerwerck wrote:

I put lithium in smoke alarms to save the bother
of changing them more often.

What sort of life are you getting? Given the price, I'd hope at least five
years.

I'd prefer to use rechargeables (now that there are low self-discharge ones), but for some reason smoke alarm circuitry is very sensitive to voltage.

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A penny saved is a government oversight.

But the Duracells were lasting only 6 months.
They're cheap smoke alarms.

That's pretty bad. I've been using leftover Toshibas, and they last at least
a year.

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:16:22 -0000, Dave Platt wrote:

In article ,
Peter Hucker wrote:

What happened? I thought wer were approaching $2 per quid.

"International financial meltdown". It hasn't just been the US that
has been affected.

When I went over to London for a few days in late October, the pound
was a bit under $2 when I started the trip... right about where it has
been for a long time. About two days after I got there, the UK
financial markets hiccoughed so loudly you could hear 'em from orbit,
and the pound plunged to its lowest rate against the dollar in
decades... I think it was around $1.55 when I left.

I'm enjoying this "recession" - all my interest rates have fallen, and so have the minimum credit card payments. And shops keep lowering their prices.


Till they go out of business.

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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:17:35 -0000, William Sommerwerck wrote:

But the Duracells were lasting only 6 months.
They're cheap smoke alarms.

That's pretty bad. I've been using leftover Toshibas, and they last at least
a year.

I bought 6 smoke alarms at once, so I went for cheap ones. 99p on ebay I believe.

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:43:09 -0000, Ron(UK) wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Lostgallifreyan wrote:

Ron wrote:
In your opinion maybe. Professionals in the sound industry use
quality replaceable batteries, they are reliable - reliability means
_everything_ when a show (or your job) is at stake.


Lame. I keep hearing this silly excuse. This is consumer high-street
shop level thinking. The whole audio industry is riddled with it. For
decades dull black boxes have been shifted with the letters PRO on
them, regardless of how tacky they are, never has an industry blown its
trumpet so loudly.

Err, we're talking radio mics here. And pro ones are in a different league
to the low end stuff. They have to be rugged - and possible to fix if
damaged.

In an industry where possibly 40 or 50, radio packs may be used nightly
on a single live show, do you really think they would use the more
expensive solution of using replacable batteries without good reason if
they could get away with using rechargables and saving money?
One microphone failure on a West End or Broadway show could cost a lot
of money and someone his or her job.

Ron(UK)

If you use decent NiMH batteries, and only use them for a year, you will be no more likely to have a flat mic than if you use alkalines.

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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:27:00 -0000, ItsASecretDummy wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:49:23 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:


If you remember the 3-letter ISO currency codes, Google will do a lot
of the slogwork for you, and more.

If you have Vista and the sidebar applet for currency, you can always
see it, and you can always type a figure in and get the exchange value.

Not using what is available is part of what creates slog work, and is
itself slog work, ready made.

I have never met anyone who wants that blasted sidebar.

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Cindy once remarked to her dentist that she didn't know what would be worse - having a baby, or having a tooth pulled.
The Dentist replied, "Well make up your mind, Cindy - because I need to know which way to position the chair."

On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:40:20 -0000, wrote:

Here is how to tell if a 9 volt battery is good.Stick your tongue on
there.
cuhulin

Why do people think this is sore? It just tickles.

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Cindy once remarked to her dentist that she didn't know what would be worse - having a baby, or having a tooth pulled.
The Dentist replied, "Well make up your mind, Cindy - because I need to know which way to position the chair."

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:17:35 -0000, William Sommerwerck wrote:

But the Duracells were lasting only 6 months.
They're cheap smoke alarms.

That's pretty bad. I've been using leftover Toshibas, and they last at least
a year.

I bought 6 smoke alarms at once, so I went for cheap ones. 99p on ebay I believe.

Oh, *that's* a smart move. Expected though.

krw wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:17:35 -0000, William Sommerwerck wrote:

But the Duracells were lasting only 6 months.
They're cheap smoke alarms.

That's pretty bad. I've been using leftover Toshibas, and they last at least
a year.

I bought 6 smoke alarms at once, so I went for cheap ones. 99p on ebay I believe.

Oh, *that's* a smart move. Expected though.


He buys in the special, "Trolls only" section of ebay.


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On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:33:33 -0000, krw wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:17:35 -0000, William Sommerwerck wrote:

But the Duracells were lasting only 6 months.
They're cheap smoke alarms.

That's pretty bad. I've been using leftover Toshibas, and they last at least
a year.

I bought 6 smoke alarms at once, so I went for cheap ones. 99p on ebay I believe.

Oh, *that's* a smart move. Expected though.

I did of course test them. They detect smoke perfectly well.

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The probability that a given thread has degenerated into a ****ing contest is directly proportional to its number of replies.

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:43:09 -0000, Ron(UK) wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Ron wrote:
In your opinion maybe. Professionals in the sound industry use
quality replaceable batteries, they are reliable - reliability means
_everything_ when a show (or your job) is at stake.

Lame. I keep hearing this silly excuse. This is consumer high-street
shop level thinking. The whole audio industry is riddled with it. For
decades dull black boxes have been shifted with the letters PRO on
them, regardless of how tacky they are, never has an industry blown its
trumpet so loudly.
Err, we're talking radio mics here. And pro ones are in a different league
to the low end stuff. They have to be rugged - and possible to fix if
damaged.
In an industry where possibly 40 or 50, radio packs may be used nightly
on a single live show, do you really think they would use the more
expensive solution of using replacable batteries without good reason if
they could get away with using rechargables and saving money?
One microphone failure on a West End or Broadway show could cost a lot
of money and someone his or her job.

Ron(UK)

If you use decent NiMH batteries, and only use them for a year, you will be no more likely to have a flat mic than if you use alkalines.


And you are an expert on professional audio production?

Ron(UK)

On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:38:59 -0000, Ron Johnson wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:43:09 -0000, Ron(UK) wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Ron wrote:
In your opinion maybe. Professionals in the sound industry use
quality replaceable batteries, they are reliable - reliability means
_everything_ when a show (or your job) is at stake.

Lame. I keep hearing this silly excuse. This is consumer high-street
shop level thinking. The whole audio industry is riddled with it. For
decades dull black boxes have been shifted with the letters PRO on
them, regardless of how tacky they are, never has an industry blown its
trumpet so loudly.
Err, we're talking radio mics here. And pro ones are in a different league
to the low end stuff. They have to be rugged - and possible to fix if
damaged.
In an industry where possibly 40 or 50, radio packs may be used nightly
on a single live show, do you really think they would use the more
expensive solution of using replacable batteries without good reason if
they could get away with using rechargables and saving money?
One microphone failure on a West End or Broadway show could cost a lot
of money and someone his or her job.

Ron(UK)

If you use decent NiMH batteries, and only use them for a year, you will be no more likely to have a flat mic than if you use alkalines.


And you are an expert on professional audio production?

Why would I need to be to know about batteries?

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A big-city, U.S. lawyer went duck hunting in rural Canada. He shot a bird, but it fell into a farmer's field on the other side of a fence. As the lawyer climbed over the fence, an elderly farmer drove up on his tractor and asked him what he was doing.
The litigator responded, "I shot a duck and it fell into this field, and I'm going to retrieve it."
The old farmer replied, "This is my property, and you are not coming over here."
The indignant lawyer said, "I am one of the best trial attorneys in the U.S. and, if you don't let me get that duck, I'll sue you and take everything you own."
The old farmer smiled and said, "Apparently, you don't know how we do things in Canada. We settle small disagreements like this with the Canadian Three-Kick Rule."
The lawyer asked, "What is the Canadian Three-Kick Rule?"
The farmer replied, "Well, first I kick you three times and then you kick me three times, and so on, back and forth, until someone gives up."
The attorney quickly thought about the proposed contest and decided that he could easily take the old codger so he agreed to abide by the local custom. The old farmer slowly climbed down from the tractor and walked up to the city feller. His first kick hit the lawyer's groin and dropped him to his knees. His second kick nearly wiped the man's nose off his face. The barrister was flat on his belly when the farmer's third kick to a kidney nearly caused him to give up.
The lawyer summoned every bit of his will and managed to get to his feet and said, "Okay, you old coot! Now, it's my turn!"
The old farmer grinned and said, "Naw, I give up. You can have the duck!"

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:33:33 -0000, krw wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:17:35 -0000, William Sommerwerck wrote:

But the Duracells were lasting only 6 months.
They're cheap smoke alarms.

That's pretty bad. I've been using leftover Toshibas, and they last at least
a year.

I bought 6 smoke alarms at once, so I went for cheap ones. 99p on ebay I believe.

Oh, *that's* a smart move. Expected though.

I did of course test them. They detect smoke perfectly well.


I suppose you waved a smoking parrot under each one?


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