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I want to build a rocking chair...
JOAT has been telling wannabe wood dorkers to build a rocker, rather than a
crib or cradle, for children on the way. He's right. We have one grandchild approaching two years old, and two more due by mid summer. Their cribs are taken care of. I'd like to build a rocking chair. Actually, maybe three or four. I've got the plans for a Craftman style rocker recently published in Woodwork magazine. I could play jazz with that design, I suppose, but I don't want to build a Craftsman rocker. Neither do I want to build a ladder-back Shaker style, although that is a beautiful heritage. Chairs in the style of Sam Maloof are pretty, but not what I had in mind. And there's a shop down in Texas that makes a rocker vaguely like that, that I'd buy in a heartbeat, if buying a chair was what I had in mind. At the prices they charge, I'd be paying myself minimum wage or less, to make two of them. What I'd like to build is something in the Scandiavian style. Something Hans Wegner would have done. Or one of the fellows Krenov studied with. Something spare, strong, flowing, delicate and elegant. What I'd like to do is buy plans. Short of that, I'd like recommendations on the best books on the genre. (As Kassay & Becksvoort are to Shaker, etc.) And experiences and tiplets (tmKB) on the chair building process. If I had time and budget this spring, I'd take a class from a chairmaker in San Francisco or Ft. Bragg, but I don't see that right now, much as I'd like to. So, waddaya got to share? Patriarch |
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Patriarch,
Chairs I've done were from design/plans by Hal Taylor (www.haltaylor.com). They're obviously Maloof inspired but with some nice modifications to the Maloof design. He builds a really unique rocker he calls a StoryTime Rocker that has room for grandpa and the kids. Might be someplace to start for some further inspiration. Gary in KC "Patriarch" wrote in message 7.136... JOAT has been telling wannabe wood dorkers to build a rocker, rather than a crib or cradle, for children on the way. He's right. We have one grandchild approaching two years old, and two more due by mid summer. Their cribs are taken care of. I'd like to build a rocking chair. Actually, maybe three or four. I've got the plans for a Craftman style rocker recently published in Woodwork magazine. I could play jazz with that design, I suppose, but I don't want to build a Craftsman rocker. Neither do I want to build a ladder-back Shaker style, although that is a beautiful heritage. Chairs in the style of Sam Maloof are pretty, but not what I had in mind. And there's a shop down in Texas that makes a rocker vaguely like that, that I'd buy in a heartbeat, if buying a chair was what I had in mind. At the prices they charge, I'd be paying myself minimum wage or less, to make two of them. What I'd like to build is something in the Scandiavian style. Something Hans Wegner would have done. Or one of the fellows Krenov studied with. Something spare, strong, flowing, delicate and elegant. What I'd like to do is buy plans. Short of that, I'd like recommendations on the best books on the genre. (As Kassay & Becksvoort are to Shaker, etc.) And experiences and tiplets (tmKB) on the chair building process. If I had time and budget this spring, I'd take a class from a chairmaker in San Francisco or Ft. Bragg, but I don't see that right now, much as I'd like to. So, waddaya got to share? Patriarch |
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Patriarch wrote:
JOAT has been telling wannabe wood dorkers to build a rocker, rather than a crib or cradle, for children on the way. He's right. We have one grandchild approaching two years old, and two more due by mid summer. Their cribs are taken care of. I'd like to build a rocking chair. Actually, maybe three or four. [snip] So, waddaya got to share? Patriarch Gee, if you are starting from no place in particular then I'd like to write a word or two about the rocking chair back. The back of the rocker should be easy on the human back, those round dowel-type spokes are pretty tough on the back if you stay in the rocker a while. Josie |
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"Patriarch" wrote in message 7.136... JOAT has been telling wannabe wood dorkers to build a rocker, rather than a crib or cradle, for children on the way. He's right. We have one grandchild approaching two years old, and two more due by mid summer. Their cribs are taken care of. I'd like to build a rocking chair. Actually, maybe three or four. Personal experience chiming in... I've got a 4 1/2 yr old and two 3 yr old twins. We have a "rocker" in every room. I too agree with JOAT, that they've been invaluable, but they certainly have seen a dramatic drop-off in use. Seem's like aroun 2 1/2, for all three, the rocker was used less frequently, in lieu of them climbing into directly into bed for book-reading-time. We actually have one rocker and two gliders. Far and away, the gliders are preferred here. The motion is preferred and they don't squeak. |
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I spent a bunch of time designing and building a rocker before myu first
child was born. I have details on my website: http://the-wildings.com/shop/furniture/rocker/ The finished picture can be found by backing up a directory. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Joe in Denver my woodworking website: http://www.the-wildings.com/shop/ "Patriarch" wrote in message 7.136... JOAT has been telling wannabe wood dorkers to build a rocker, rather than a crib or cradle, for children on the way. He's right. We have one grandchild approaching two years old, and two more due by mid summer. Their cribs are taken care of. I'd like to build a rocking chair. Actually, maybe three or four. I've got the plans for a Craftman style rocker recently published in Woodwork magazine. I could play jazz with that design, I suppose, but I don't want to build a Craftsman rocker. Neither do I want to build a ladder-back Shaker style, although that is a beautiful heritage. Chairs in the style of Sam Maloof are pretty, but not what I had in mind. And there's a shop down in Texas that makes a rocker vaguely like that, that I'd buy in a heartbeat, if buying a chair was what I had in mind. At the prices they charge, I'd be paying myself minimum wage or less, to make two of them. What I'd like to build is something in the Scandiavian style. Something Hans Wegner would have done. Or one of the fellows Krenov studied with. Something spare, strong, flowing, delicate and elegant. What I'd like to do is buy plans. Short of that, I'd like recommendations on the best books on the genre. (As Kassay & Becksvoort are to Shaker, etc.) And experiences and tiplets (tmKB) on the chair building process. If I had time and budget this spring, I'd take a class from a chairmaker in San Francisco or Ft. Bragg, but I don't see that right now, much as I'd like to. So, waddaya got to share? Patriarch |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:56:21 -0500, the inscrutable "firstjois"
spake: Patriarch wrote: JOAT has been telling wannabe wood dorkers to build a rocker, rather than a crib or cradle, for children on the way. He's right. We have one grandchild approaching two years old, and two more due by mid summer. Their cribs are taken care of. I'd like to build a rocking chair. Actually, maybe three or four. [snip] So, waddaya got to share? Patriarch Gee, if you are starting from no place in particular then I'd like to write a word or two about the rocking chair back. The back of the rocker should be easy on the human back, those round dowel-type spokes are pretty tough on the back if you stay in the rocker a while. TIP: Leave the very center of the back open. I've never understood why chairs were made with a dead-center slat or dowel. These hit you right on the bony part of your spine. I came to realize that chairs were much more comfortable when built with even- numbered vertical slats than ladder or odd-numbered v-slat chairs for that very reason. Oddly enough, most chairs are built the uncomfortable way. -- STOP LIVING LIKE VEAL ----------------------- http://diversify.com Veal-free Websites |
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Thu, Feb 10, 2005, 2:22am (EST-1)
(Patriarch) claims to say: JOAT has been telling wannabe wood dorkers to build a rocker, rather than a crib or cradle, snip So, waddaya got to share? You're allllllmost right. I never said anything about cribs. My personal peference is Stickley. But, I'll post this for ya. Check Tauton on designing a rocker, Black & Decker, and Inspiration - go down to chairs. I don't recall if I've got more stuff there or not. http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/WOODSTUFF/ JOAT Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong. - David Fasold |
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The 2 rockers I've built use curved, laminated back slats. Probably 1 1/4"
wide with total thickness probably just under 3/8" or so. The curve gives tremendous lumbar support and the thickness gives a small amount of flex for comfort. A real nice trick is how they are inserted into the seat and the crest rail. The top and bottom of the slats are shaped down to round dowel shapes. Then the mating holes in the seat and crest rail are drilled twice. Once dead vertical, then a second time slightly offset and at about an 8 degree angle. This gives the slats some built it flex and stress relief to further help the slats conform to your back. Overall, everyone who has sat in the chairs has been surprised how comfortable they are for a solid wood chair and that you can sit in them for a great length of time without fatigue or discomfort. Gary in KC "firstjois" wrote in message news Gee, if you are starting from no place in particular then I'd like to write a word or two about the rocking chair back. The back of the rocker should be easy on the human back, those round dowel-type spokes are pretty tough on the back if you stay in the rocker a while. Josie |
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A" Wood" Magazine had plans a few years ago, maybe 8, for a child's rocking
chair with a cut out Teddy Bear design in the back. I have made several for grandchildren and others, using my variations. They have been big hits. Children don't actually sit in one long enough to get uncomfortable. Plans may still be available at their web site. They are for size about 1 - 4, maybe 5, years old. BEWARE, the engineering is terrible. Revise the seat to rocker geometry so that seat is level when load is put on it, not level when empty, then tilted forward with load as child slides out and back bonks them on back of head. Walt Conner So, waddaya got to share? |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:49:30 GMT, "Gary A in KC"
wrote: Patriarch, Chairs I've done were from design/plans by Hal Taylor (www.haltaylor.com). They're obviously Maloof inspired but with some nice modifications to the Maloof design. He builds a really unique rocker he calls a StoryTime Rocker that has room for grandpa and the kids. Might be someplace to start for some further inspiration. Gary in KC Great link! Thanks. TWS |
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"Joe Wilding" wrote in news:371ct4F57gaioU1
@individual.net: I spent a bunch of time designing and building a rocker before myu first child was born. I have details on my website: http://the-wildings.com/shop/furniture/rocker/ The finished picture can be found by backing up a directory. Let me know if you have any questions. I have tons of questions! First, thank you for the link. I'd seen your site before, but hadn't recalled the Eastlake style rocker. Your plans for sale section mentioned a 'coming soon', postponed due to a promotion. Did the forthcoming plans include a measured drawing for the rocker? And is that still a someday project? Patriarch |
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"Gary A in KC" wrote in
. com: The 2 rockers I've built use curved, laminated back slats. Probably 1 1/4" wide with total thickness probably just under 3/8" or so. The curve gives tremendous lumbar support and the thickness gives a small amount of flex for comfort. A real nice trick is how they are inserted into the seat and the crest rail. The top and bottom of the slats are shaped down to round dowel shapes. Then the mating holes in the seat and crest rail are drilled twice. Once dead vertical, then a second time slightly offset and at about an 8 degree angle. This gives the slats some built it flex and stress relief to further help the slats conform to your back. Overall, everyone who has sat in the chairs has been surprised how comfortable they are for a solid wood chair and that you can sit in them for a great length of time without fatigue or discomfort. Gary in KC I've seen similar techiques used for dining chairs - in Woodwork magazine. Haven't built those yet either. Any posted pictures of your work you'd care to share? Patriarch |
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"Walt Conner" wrote in
nk.net: A" Wood" Magazine had plans a few years ago, maybe 8, for a child's rocking chair with a cut out Teddy Bear design in the back. I saw that one, I think, doing a Google search. That, or one that you or another woodworker had made. I appreciate the note on the engineering. What I want to do first is make a chair for my daughter-in-law. Easy to sit in. Easy to get up from. Thanks for the help, Walt. Patriarch |
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"Patriarch" wrote in message . 97.136... "Walt Conner" wrote in nk.net: A" Wood" Magazine had plans a few years ago, maybe 8, for a child's rocking chair with a cut out Teddy Bear design in the back. I saw that one, I think, doing a Google search. That, or one that you or another woodworker had made. I appreciate the note on the engineering. What I want to do first is make a chair for my daughter-in-law. Easy to sit in. Easy to get up from. Thanks for the help, Walt. Patriarch We have a rather large rocker that my wife absolutely loved when our kids were small ... it was from an unfinished furniture place in CT. While I don't have a detailed, measured drawing, I can take scaled photos and forward to you. You'll have to drop some spaces and hit reverse on the address below; ignore the local machine address. Regards, Rick mirrormirror 127.0.0.0:80 m o c t o d r r t o d d a i r t t a c d k - g n |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:40:59 -0600, the inscrutable Patriarch
spake: I've seen similar techiques used for dining chairs - in Woodwork magazine. Haven't built those yet either. I sent an email request to them wanting to start my subscription to their mag a few issues earlier. It has been 5 days and I've heard nothing back from them. I guess they don't want new subscribers. Go figure! -- STOP LIVING LIKE VEAL ----------------------- http://diversify.com Veal-free Websites |
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I have built a few based on Norm's children's rocker he did quite a while
ago. Two thinks though. It take a long time to make all the jigs to get the correct angles, I found the video a great help. Second he used a laminated back. My first one crept because it got left in a hot car and I used yellow glue. I recommend thinner laminations and use epoxy glue. |
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"Frank J. Vitale" wrote in
link.net: I have built a few based on Norm's children's rocker he did quite a while ago. Two thinks though. It take a long time to make all the jigs to get the correct angles, I found the video a great help. Second he used a laminated back. My first one crept because it got left in a hot car and I used yellow glue. I recommend thinner laminations and use epoxy glue. I found myself with a quiet hour to spend at the Leebrary last week, and found a compilation of late -80's Fine Woodworking articles, in book form. There was a really complete, illustrated article, including measured drawerings, by Brian Boggs, on making a bent wood rocker. That one passed the SWMBO test. As soon as the bathroom is finished being painted, I'm going to start on making the bending and lamination forms. Everyone has to have 5 concurrent projects, right? Patriarch |
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:35:35 -0600, Patriarch
wrote: I found myself with a quiet hour to spend at the Leebrary last week, and found a compilation of late -80's Fine Woodworking articles, in book form. There was a really complete, illustrated article, including measured drawerings, by Brian Boggs, on making a bent wood rocker. That one passed the SWMBO test. As soon as the bathroom is finished being painted, I'm going to start on making the bending and lamination forms. Everyone has to have 5 concurrent projects, right? Patriarch I couldn't find that article in the FWW archives. What was the book title? I did find an Oct. 1983 article by Sam Aloof entitled "How I make a rocker" that may be of interest. TWS |
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TWS wrote in
: On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:35:35 -0600, Patriarch wrote: I found myself with a quiet hour to spend at the Leebrary last week, and found a compilation of late -80's Fine Woodworking articles, in book form. There was a really complete, illustrated article, including measured drawerings, by Brian Boggs, on making a bent wood rocker. That one passed the SWMBO test. As soon as the bathroom is finished being painted, I'm going to start on making the bending and lamination forms. Everyone has to have 5 concurrent projects, right? Patriarch I couldn't find that article in the FWW archives. What was the book title? I did find an Oct. 1983 article by Sam Aloof entitled "How I make a rocker" that may be of interest. TWS "Building a Bent-Back Rocker" Soft rock from hardwoods, Brian Boggs from Fine Woodworking magazine, Sept 1989, 78:40-45 I found it in the compilation Traditional Furniture Projects, The Best of Fine Woodworking, 1991, ISBN 0-942391-93-4 Typical Boggs attention to detail and respect for traditional form, without slavish copying. Patriarch |
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:20:13 -0600, Patriarch
wrote: "Building a Bent-Back Rocker" Soft rock from hardwoods, Brian Boggs from Fine Woodworking magazine, Sept 1989, 78:40-45 I found it in the compilation Traditional Furniture Projects, The Best of Fine Woodworking, 1991, ISBN 0-942391-93-4 Typical Boggs attention to detail and respect for traditional form, without slavish copying. Patriarch Found it. Thanks (especially for the complete reference including ISBN - although Amazon's artless search engine couldn't deal with dashes in the number or, for that matter, tell me that was a problem). TWS |
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