On 6/28/2014 10:52 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2014-06-26, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2014-06-25, Spalted Walt wrote:
Shot on location at The Woodwright's School, Pittsboro NC

http://www.youtube.com/embed/VkSmaFAuaH4

I watched about half of that. Was it serious or was it supposed to be
satire?

When I watched the first few minutes, it was at work without audio,
and it was baffling. I just watched the whole thing _with_ audio.

It's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.


Bookmarked at 7:36. I anticipate many future applications.

On 2014-06-30, Larry Kraus wrote:
On 6/28/2014 10:52 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/VkSmaFAuaH4

I watched about half of that. Was it serious or was it supposed to be
satire?

When I watched the first few minutes, it was at work without audio,
and it was baffling. I just watched the whole thing _with_ audio.

It's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

Bookmarked at 7:36. I anticipate many future applications.

I'm still in awe of how well the whole thing was done.

I loved how he referred to setting up a pencil sharpening "practice"
rather than a "business" -- thus elevating being a pencil sharpener to
the same category as being a lawyer or doctor. The classic 1940's
leather train case for his equipment was a nice touch too.

I do remeber being taught how to sharpen a pencil in junior high
school shop class when we were doing a 9-week mechanical drawing
course (using wooden pencils) -- and then again as a feshman at Penn
State (using mechanical lead-holders).

Of course there aren't any subjects that I take way too seriously and
rant on and on about until all my fiends are ready to strangle me.

[Did I tell you about the ad on Craig's List for a "Radio Alarm Saw",
I'm assuming that one's due to auto-correct, but for dog's sake
people, proof-read your ad when you're done.

Or how about placing an ad which comprises (in its entirety)
"Craftsman table saw: $275. North Metro" -- no photo, model number or
specs. Craftsman has been selling table saws for something like 75
years, and has sold probably a few hundred different models. Of
course when I'm shopping for a table saw, it doesn't matter which
model it is, how old it is or what sort of shape it's in. What
matters is that it's from the "north metro". Or how about the ad for
"hand tools: $100 for everything in picture" with no picture.

BTW, the guy tring to sell a $7 set of Menards house brand spade bits
for $17 has updated his ad. There's now a picture of both the front
and back of the blister pack. At least he spelled everything
correctly.]

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CHLORIDE ...

Swingman wrote:

On 6/25/2014 11:51 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Reminds me of the instructor in my high school mechanical drawing class who was fixated on how well we deployed his technique in sharpening the lead in our mechanical pencils. We used small hand held sanding blocks and I wish I would have saved one of them.

Dayum! Had one of those teachers also. Our pencil leads had to be wedge
shaped, with a very particular taper, and we were graded on how well we
effected the proper shape, as well as maintained it through use.

Occasionally he would confiscate a pencil from a student and test it.

Can't complain though, it was when I began to realize the importance of
"details" in getting things right(write).

Not only did you learn to properly sharpen a pencil, but you leanred
the much rarer skill of using "effect" properly as a VERB. A rare
skill indeed.
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Swingman wrote:
On 6/25/2014 11:51 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Reminds me of the instructor in my high school mechanical drawing
class who was fixated on how well we deployed his technique in
sharpening the lead in our mechanical pencils. We used small hand
held sanding blocks and I wish I would have saved one of them.

Dayum! Had one of those teachers also. Our pencil leads had to be
wedge shaped, with a very particular taper, and we were graded on how
well we effected the proper shape, as well as maintained it through use.

Occasionally he would confiscate a pencil from a student and test it.

I would have liked to have seen that. Did he do it with an element of
humor or fear? With my shop teachers, it was often hard to tell whether
they were being funny or not (like when pointing to the picture taped to
the drill press of a kid with half of the hair on his head missing).



Can't complain though, it was when I began to realize the importance
of "details" in getting things right(write).

Bill wrote in :

I would have liked to have seen that. Did he do it with an element of
humor or fear? With my shop teachers, it was often hard to tell whether
they were being funny or not (like when pointing to the picture taped to
the drill press of a kid with half of the hair on his head missing).


I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come around
and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective action.

It doesn't seem to be as big of problem with wood, as the wood doesn't
provide as good of hold as metal or plastic. However, I've had a few times
where the bit has grabbed and spun a small workpiece around. I also had
one time where it grabbed and pulled the piece around and whacked the
column. Better it than me.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Puckdropper wrote:
Bill wrote in :

I would have liked to have seen that. Did he do it with an element of
humor or fear? With my shop teachers, it was often hard to tell whether
they were being funny or not (like when pointing to the picture taped to
the drill press of a kid with half of the hair on his head missing).

I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come around
and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective action.

It doesn't seem to be as big of problem with wood, as the wood doesn't
provide as good of hold as metal or plastic. However, I've had a few times
where the bit has grabbed and spun a small workpiece around. I also had
one time where it grabbed and pulled the piece around and whacked the
column. Better it than me.
Yep, can't be too careful, huh!


Puckdropper

On 2014-07-22, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote:

I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come
around and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective
action.

You take "corrective action" with a vise and/or clamps _before_ you
lower the quill.

It doesn't seem to be as big of problem with wood, as the wood doesn't
provide as good of hold as metal or plastic. However, I've had a few times
where the bit has grabbed and spun a small workpiece around. I also had
one time where it grabbed and pulled the piece around and whacked the
column. Better it than me.

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gmail.com

Puckdropper wrote:


I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come
around and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective
action.

It doesn't seem to be as big of problem with wood, as the wood doesn't
provide as good of hold as metal or plastic. However, I've had a few
times where the bit has grabbed and spun a small workpiece around. I
also had one time where it grabbed and pulled the piece around and
whacked the column. Better it than me.


No kidding Mister! I've had more than one piece come swinging around and
whack my hand. It's always because I was trying to take a short cut and not
secure things properly - figuring I could hold it just fine by hand. A
spade bit can really grab into a piece of wood just before you complete the
bore - and there you go! You'd think some people would learn over time...

--

-Mike-

Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2014-07-22, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote:

I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come
around and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective
action.

You take "corrective action" with a vise and/or clamps _before_ you
lower the quill.

Yes... you do. Unless you don't...

--

-Mike-

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Bill wrote in
:

I would have liked to have seen that. Did he do it with an element of
humor or fear? With my shop teachers, it was often hard to tell
whether
they were being funny or not (like when pointing to the picture taped
to
the drill press of a kid with half of the hair on his head missing).


I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come
around
and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective action.

It doesn't seem to be as big of problem with wood, as the wood doesn't
provide as good of hold as metal or plastic. However, I've had a few
times where the bit has grabbed and spun a small workpiece around. I
also had one time where it grabbed and pulled the piece around and
whacked the column. Better it than me.

That is why one clamps the work piece securely to the table. A fence
helps too

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On 2014-07-22, Mike Marlow wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2014-07-22, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote:

I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come
around and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective
action.

You take "corrective action" with a vise and/or clamps _before_ you
lower the quill.

Yes... you do. Unless you don't...

I get lazy and often don't when drilling in soft wood with twist
drills 1/4" or smaller. Then I usually wish I had -- not because the
bit grabbed the workpiece and whacked me with it, but because the hole
didn't end up quite exactly where it should have.

When using a spade or forstner bit, or pretty much anytime I drill
metal, I grab the drill press vise and/or clamps. I do wish that
there was a quicker way to bolt/unbolt the vise to the table. The
bolts with plastic handle-nut things are better than having to get out
a wrench, but not by much...

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at to submit to COMPULSORY
gmail.com URINALYSIS!

On 7/22/2014 3:33 PM, dadiOH wrote:
That is why one clamps the work piece securely to the table. A fence
helps too

Bingo!

Just fixing to post that that is exactly why I always use a fence when
using the drill press.

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:21:13 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards
wrote:

On 2014-07-22, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote:

I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come
around and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective
action.

You take "corrective action" with a vise and/or clamps _before_ you
lower the quill.

Words to live by! ...at least a fence.

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:13:18 AM UTC-10, Spalted Walt wrote:
Shot on location at The Woodwright's School, Pittsboro NC



http://www.youtube.com/embed/VkSmaFAuaH4

I would not send my pencils to this guy!!! He's obviously a hack and not a Certified Pencil Sharpening Artisan (CPSA) or even a Certified Pencil Sharpening Specialist(CPSS)!! His ratio of core to barrel is way off and the angle of the point way too steep. And the amount of graphite he left on the tip would give a low shaft gripper (LSG) black fingers. Maybe getting cut rate LASIK might be okay but DO NOT TRUST YOUR VALUABLE PENCILS WITH THIS FLAKE!!!

GeneT wrote in
:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:13:18 AM UTC-10, Spalted Walt wrote:
Shot on location at The Woodwright's School, Pittsboro NC



http://www.youtube.com/embed/VkSmaFAuaH4

I would not send my pencils to this guy!!! He's obviously a hack and
not a Certified Pencil Sharpening Artisan (CPSA) or even a Certified
Pencil Sharpening Specialist(CPSS)!! His ratio of core to barrel is
way off and the angle of the point way too steep. And the amount of
graphite he left on the tip would give a low shaft gripper (LSG) black
fingers. Maybe getting cut rate LASIK might be okay but DO NOT TRUST
YOUR VALUABLE PENCILS WITH THIS FLAKE!!!


Have you used Forrest's pencil sharpening service? They've got a great
reputation for saw blades, does the same hold true for pencils?

I'd have to buy a few extra pencils, but for a quality sharpening, it'd
be worth it.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 7/22/2014 11:48 PM, GeneT wrote:
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:13:18 AM UTC-10, Spalted Walt wrote:
Shot on location at The Woodwright's School, Pittsboro NC



http://www.youtube.com/embed/VkSmaFAuaH4

I would not send my pencils to this guy!!! He's obviously a hack and not a Certified Pencil Sharpening Artisan


He has a series on the National Geographic Channel. Subjects covered a
How to make ice
How to tie a shoelace
How to dig a hole
and more

On 22 Jul 2014 20:11:42 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:

Bill wrote in :

I would have liked to have seen that. Did he do it with an element of
humor or fear? With my shop teachers, it was often hard to tell whether
they were being funny or not (like when pointing to the picture taped to
the drill press of a kid with half of the hair on his head missing).


I never realized how dangerous a drill press could be until I started
reading machinist forums. If the bit grabs, the workpiece can come around
and hit you faster than your reflexes can take corrective action.

It doesn't seem to be as big of problem with wood, as the wood doesn't
provide as good of hold as metal or plastic. However, I've had a few times
where the bit has grabbed and spun a small workpiece around. I also had
one time where it grabbed and pulled the piece around and whacked the
column. Better it than me.

Puckdropper

Brass. I learned how treacherous drilling it can be. Fortunately my
little drill press vice missed me as it went flying into the wall A
standard bit will grab and either it and your holding devise will go
for a spin or your drill bit will break. The trick I found was to
stone the cutting edge to increase the cutting angle. It doesn't take
much.

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:13:16 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 7/22/2014 11:48 PM, GeneT wrote:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:13:18 AM UTC-10, Spalted Walt wrote:

Shot on location at The Woodwright's School, Pittsboro NC







http://www.youtube.com/embed/VkSmaFAuaH4



I would not send my pencils to this guy!!! He's obviously a hack and not a Certified Pencil Sharpening Artisan





He has a series on the National Geographic Channel. Subjects covered a

How to make ice

How to tie a shoelace

How to dig a hole

and more

Oh, so he's a jack of all trades and master of none!!