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Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home
shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT |
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Simple. It's like the Law of Conservation of Energy. It's Called
Conservation of Space. Either throw out the tools that don't fit, or Build A Bigger Shop. I'd build a bigger shop, myself. If you decide to throw stuff away, post descriptions here first. If the tools are any good, I bet some of us would pay shipping to "dispose" of them for you. Mike Eberlein Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote: I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. I did this one years ago. Buy a set of metal shelves about 84"-90" H as wide as practical (30"-36") WW Grainger sell cardboard shelf boxes in bundles of 25. You simply fold them to form a box. They come in 2"-4"-6" widths and fit a standard 12" deep shelf. A couple of Sharpies for labeling and you are good to go. RULE 1: Everything on that set of shelves MUST be in a shelf box. RULE 2: If in doubt, refer to RULE 1. YMMV Lew |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT When making wall cabinets, plain doors waste a lot of space. If you make the doors 3-6" deep, you can fit loads of nail and screw (and other small stuff) storage in the doors. Fit bearing hinges to take the weight, and some kind of ledge to hold the doors square when closed. |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:41:26 -0700, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. I just listed a bunch of things with a 0.01 starting price. Besides that, any racks also help. i |
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My shop is getting taken over with all the non tool stuff: nails,
screws,other hardware, plumbing supplies, nifty pieces of hardwood, tools torn down waiting for parts/rework/repair, gear motors, controllers, etc etc. Not too mention projects that get delayed in the middle: that 4 panel garage door section that is waiting on custom molder cutters is a prime example. I'm mostly ok on the tools, I can run 16' boards through the molder in a 30' space with help from a suitable well pit in the wall and major tools mounted on mobile bases but the last 18 months overwhelmed the system. When you have a solution, I'm waiting! Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT |
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RoyJ wrote:
My shop is getting taken over with all the non tool stuff: nails, screws,other hardware, plumbing supplies, nifty pieces of hardwood, tools torn down waiting for parts/rework/repair, gear motors, controllers, etc etc. Not too mention projects that get delayed in the middle: that 4 panel garage door section that is waiting on custom molder cutters is a prime example. I'm mostly ok on the tools, I can run 16' boards through the molder in a 30' space with help from a suitable well pit in the wall and major tools mounted on mobile bases but the last 18 months overwhelmed the system. When you have a solution, I'm waiting! Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT Look up........ hang stuff up close to the ceiling if you have the clearance. Long boards, pipe, shafting. If the ceiling is in the basement and unfinished you can put narrow shelves off the joists. Use any type of jar or plastic storage contain for nail, screws and anything else small enough to fit. John |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote in
oups.com: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT Acro Bins and wall plates. You can get these for cheap from Global Industrial Supply. The wall plates are simple perforated steel sheets that the bins hang from. You can make a lot of storage area in a small space. Anything you can put on the wall is a space saving deal. Our work shop is a 16' x 26' partition of another area. In it, we have a 12' x 16' caged area that has a milling machine, a 8' Lista cabinet with overhead cabinets, 2 - 3'w x 8' roll-around stand-up parts cabinets, a 5'w roll around Lista parts cabinet, a stationary Lista mill tooling cabinet, a 3' bolt/nut/screw cabinet, a laptop roll around cart, and every free space of wall to a height of 7' has the acro bins and wall plates with all of the pneumatic fittings and other odds and ends, even the area between the big Lista bench top and the upper cabinets is full of mounted acro bins. Outside of the caged area is where we do machine building, and this area currently has a new full-sized 3 axis CNC VMC we are automating, a 6 axis robot, a 6' lista work bench, a ladder/work platform storage area, an automatic parts washer and 5 roll-away tool boxes. And we still have room to work. Even the caged wall is used for storage, we attached extrusion to it, and use it to store completed sub- assemblies, hoses, cables, tools, paperwork racks, aluminum stock, etc. Keeping the floor clean and uncluttered is a key. Having hose and power reels mounted high on the wall/ceiling is important for uncluttering. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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I agree with shelves and boxes except I use plastic boxes with lids and keep
them in a shed. Carry what I need to the shop. "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote: I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. I did this one years ago. Buy a set of metal shelves about 84"-90" H as wide as practical (30"-36") WW Grainger sell cardboard shelf boxes in bundles of 25. You simply fold them to form a box. They come in 2"-4"-6" widths and fit a standard 12" deep shelf. A couple of Sharpies for labeling and you are good to go. RULE 1: Everything on that set of shelves MUST be in a shelf box. RULE 2: If in doubt, refer to RULE 1. YMMV Lew |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT You only need working space for the tool that you are working with. Put as much equipment around the perimeter of the room and put all heavy machinery on mobile bases. |
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All the joist space is all used! People marvel at how much stuff is
crammed in. Includes a 100 plus 3 oz Ice tea jars nailed to boards nailed to the joists; 3" in diameter x 7" long. And the space above the boards is used to store long items. John wrote: RoyJ wrote: My shop is getting taken over with all the non tool stuff: nails, screws,other hardware, plumbing supplies, nifty pieces of hardwood, tools torn down waiting for parts/rework/repair, gear motors, controllers, etc etc. Not too mention projects that get delayed in the middle: that 4 panel garage door section that is waiting on custom molder cutters is a prime example. I'm mostly ok on the tools, I can run 16' boards through the molder in a 30' space with help from a suitable well pit in the wall and major tools mounted on mobile bases but the last 18 months overwhelmed the system. When you have a solution, I'm waiting! Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT Look up........ hang stuff up close to the ceiling if you have the clearance. Long boards, pipe, shafting. If the ceiling is in the basement and unfinished you can put narrow shelves off the joists. Use any type of jar or plastic storage contain for nail, screws and anything else small enough to fit. John |
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RoyJ wrote:
All the joist space is all used! People marvel at how much stuff is crammed in. Includes a 100 plus 3 oz Ice tea jars nailed to boards nailed to the joists; 3" in diameter x 7" long. And the space above the boards is used to store long items. John wrote: RoyJ wrote: My shop is getting taken over with all the non tool stuff: nails, screws,other hardware, plumbing supplies, nifty pieces of hardwood, tools torn down waiting for parts/rework/repair, gear motors, controllers, etc etc. Not too mention projects that get delayed in the middle: that 4 panel garage door section that is waiting on custom molder cutters is a prime example. I'm mostly ok on the tools, I can run 16' boards through the molder in a 30' space with help from a suitable well pit in the wall and major tools mounted on mobile bases but the last 18 months overwhelmed the system. When you have a solution, I'm waiting! Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT Look up........ hang stuff up close to the ceiling if you have the clearance. Long boards, pipe, shafting. If the ceiling is in the basement and unfinished you can put narrow shelves off the joists. Use any type of jar or plastic storage contain for nail, screws and anything else small enough to fit. John Any space under your bed? John |
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On Sep 8, 9:58 pm, "Dave Gordon" d@p wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT When making wall cabinets, plain doors waste a lot of space. If you make the doors 3-6" deep, you can fit loads of nail and screw (and other small stuff) storage in the doors. Fit bearing hinges to take the weight, and some kind of ledge to hold the doors square when closed. - When making wall cabinets, plain doors waste a lot of space. I know it's just semantics, but that statement doesn't really make sense, at least to me. While building small-item storage into the doors is a neat idea, you haven't really saved any space have you? The front of your 3-6" deep doors are just as thick as your plain doors, so the 3-6" had to be subtracted from or added to the orignal depth of the cabinet, right? Granted, having the small items stored in the door makes them easily accessible and probably more organized, so I do like the idea. |
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"DerbyDad03" wrote: (clip)While building small-item storage into the doors is a neat idea, you haven't really saved any space have you? (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Would you be happier if he had said he was creating more "frontage?" :-) |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote: (clip) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop.(clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I have 5 gallon buckets hanging from pulleys in my garage/shop. I also have a scrollsaw hangingup there. To give you an idea how short of space I am, the scrollsaw goes on top of the washing machine when I need to use it. |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:41:26 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT All infeed, outfeed, and fence tables become cabinets. Lot's of storage space availale if you do that. Infeed and outfeed for RAS or miter saw can also be infeed and outfeed for portable planer by building in a "plug" that allows the planer to be recessed at feed level. Peg board your walls. Wood storage racks above the tools on the walls. And, of course, everything on a mobile base that does not have a permanent infeed and outfeed. Frank |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT Take a wood 1X4 of a convenient length--A supply of glass jars with 1/2-turn metal lids--screw lids to 1X4, screw 1X4 to ceiling--No need to label, you can see what's inem..For itty bitty parts--use baby food jars --I used pint sized pickle jars-- If you use all the same size lids, you can re-arrange the order later on Jerry--ps this does not work well with rooms that have 10ft ceilings! |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT For 10 ft ceilings--make a horizontal rotating device---two plywood ends a foot or so with 6 or 8 sides and a hole for a pipe in the centre. 6 or 8 1x4s screwed to each end piece-suspend the whole thing from ceiling horizontally from a couple of boards of a length to lower the whole thing down to a convenient height. Don't make it too long or it will sag over time unless you put additional end shaped pieces inside the cage about every 2 ft or so.. Disadvantages--Dont store diamonds or other hard thingies as they scratch the glass inside, and perty soon it gits hard to see the contents. Also, the noise of rotating wakes the cat--which then needs to be fed. Fini |
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"Jerry Wass" in message
If you use all the same size lids, you can re-arrange the order later on Something I saw recently, but haven't gotten around to doing: In an appropriate width board, cut a series of 1/8" +/- slits that will accommodate the thickness of a "ziplock bag"; slide the bag, full length, into the slit with the "zipper" part above the board so that the bag won't fall through, having previously filled it with small parts, screws, hardware, etc. Literally dozens of ziplock bag holding slits can be cut into one board with a band saw, and the board mounted under a cabinet/on a wall where the parts are easily seen/accessible. Can you say "cheap, easy storage"? -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 8/08/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Sep 8, 11:41 pm, "Leon" wrote:
...put all heavy machinery on mobile bases. The mobile bases should be storage cabinets for heavy stuff so the machine isn't top-heavy. Several of my machines are mounted on opposite sides of flip-top tables if they might be used alternately on the same job; planer + jointer, 8" table saw + belt sander, sheet metal shear + corner notcher. The base cabinet contains all tools and accessories. On the lighter machine stands the casters are on narrow hinged boards which can be flipped out with a toe to put the machine solidly on the floor. It works better if each board has one swivel and one fixed caster, aligned such that it doesn't roll away when you lift each side to flip the board. jw |
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 8, 9:58 pm, "Dave Gordon" d@p wrote: "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT When making wall cabinets, plain doors waste a lot of space. If you make the doors 3-6" deep, you can fit loads of nail and screw (and other small stuff) storage in the doors. Fit bearing hinges to take the weight, and some kind of ledge to hold the doors square when closed. - When making wall cabinets, plain doors waste a lot of space. I know it's just semantics, but that statement doesn't really make sense, at least to me. While building small-item storage into the doors is a neat idea, you haven't really saved any space have you? The front of your 3-6" deep doors are just as thick as your plain doors, so the 3-6" had to be subtracted from or added to the orignal depth of the cabinet, right? Granted, having the small items stored in the door makes them easily accessible and probably more organized, so I do like the idea. In my own case I made the cabinet doors 6 inches deep in addition to the cabinet 12 inches deep. The dimensions came from the sizes of some scrap wood I had. Yeah it sticks out more into the workshop, but its over a kitchen-style workbench against the wall so it doesn't really consume any usable space anyway. The doors were fairly rigid, but still sag under the weight, so I added a couple of ledgers at the bottom, that support the doors when they are closed. Ball bearing hinges were the best part of the design though. I would definately recommend them. .. |
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"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "DerbyDad03" wrote: (clip)While building small-item storage into the doors is a neat idea, you haven't really saved any space have you? (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Would you be happier if he had said he was creating more "frontage?" :-) Hmmm. Unless you store the items in the Twilight Zone, they will always use some space. Just depends on whether its wasted space, or whether it will get in the way of other things. |
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"John" wrote in message ...
RoyJ wrote: My shop is getting taken over with all the non tool stuff: nails, screws,other hardware, plumbing supplies, nifty pieces of hardwood, tools torn down waiting for parts/rework/repair, gear motors, controllers, etc etc. Not too mention projects that get delayed in the middle: that 4 panel garage door section that is waiting on custom molder cutters is a prime example. I'm mostly ok on the tools, I can run 16' boards through the molder in a 30' space with help from a suitable well pit in the wall and major tools mounted on mobile bases but the last 18 months overwhelmed the system. When you have a solution, I'm waiting! Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT Look up........ hang stuff up close to the ceiling if you have the clearance. Long boards, pipe, shafting. If the ceiling is in the basement and unfinished you can put narrow shelves off the joists. Use any type of jar or plastic storage contain for nail, screws and anything else small enough to fit. John I made a couple of T-shaped brackets and hung them upside down from the joists. The cross pieces of the T stick out about 18 inches either side, and the brackets are about 4 feet apart. Very useful for storing long timber, copper pipes, etc out of the way, again in what would otherwise be wasted space. You can even slope the horizontal parts to keep circular pipes etc from rolling off. Slope of maybe 1/2" in 18" seems to work. |
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"Leon" wrote in message
. net... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT You only need working space for the tool that you are working with. Put as much equipment around the perimeter of the room and put all heavy machinery on mobile bases. Assuming you have a smooth flat floor. |
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Paint the place off-white. If it can't be spacious, at least it can look
and feel spacious. David Merrill "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. |
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On Sep 9, 10:04 am, "Dave Gordon" d@p wrote:
....put all heavy machinery on mobile bases. Assuming you have a smooth flat floor. If not, just use bigger castors. I usually work outdoors with the machines on a sloping, uneven asphalt driveway or the flatter ground beside it. Any machine that requires side forces like a table saw has retractable landing gear (see other post) and I kick shims under it to stop wobble. The 4X6 bandsaw is on lawnmower wheels. I put rubber door stop wedges under the casters to keep the welders from rolling and let the heavier sheet metal machine stand rest against the tailgate of the pickup truck. jw |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:41:26 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT Can we assume that you're talking hand tools and such, not floor tools? I relieve clutter with lots of drawers and pegboard.. I used to use shelves but limit that now because they attract more clutter.. A future project will be a set of shallow cabinets over the bench with doors made up of 2x1's and skinned on both sides with pegboard, with shallow shelves inside for those "where do I put these?"items that get in the way on the bench but seem to be needed within arm's reach.. If you have enough ceiling height, placing things like DC, compressor, planer, etc. on 12" or higher cabinets can store a LOT of stuff, also.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"J T" wrote in message
... Sat, Sep 8, 2007, 6:41pm (EDT-3) (Too_Many_Tools) wands advice: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. Well, the first advice I have is for you to tell what size shop you have. Then what tools you have. Details you know. My shop is 8'X12'. I have a 37" center wood lathe, on a shop-made stand. Planer on shop-made stand. Bench saw, on a shop-made stand. Bench drill press. Router table - four spare routers. Bench bandsaw. Scrollsaw. Arc welder. and so on. Plus various hand tools, both power and non-power. And various items of my younger son - radio control boat, etc., etc. And I have a folding chair. Where do you keep the beer barrel? |
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I acquired a free metal cabinet 18x36x72 free, it has lot of shelves set at
the height for those cardboard bins. All of the screws and nails in the small boxes you get from Borg or Lowes fit nicely in the 4" wide bins. The rest of the bins have electrical parts, paint brushes, plumbing parts etc. In the two, 3 piece tool boxes are all the hand tools. One of the small roll around toolbox has the bench sander on top with supplies inside. The other has the planer on top when in use with routers and bits inside. I don't have rafters in the garage but with heavy duty eye screws, rope and some 2x2's, I can place long 2x3's, 2x4's there. I had just finished putting up some more screw eyes for pieces up to 4' long up there also. One thing that will help is to get rid of things you don't use anymore. I have too much scrap lumber I may "need" someday. "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT |
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Anthony wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote in oups.com: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT Acro Bins and wall plates. You can get these for cheap from Global Industrial Supply. The wall plates are simple perforated steel sheets that the bins hang from. You can make a lot of storage area in a small space. Anything you can put on the wall is a space saving deal. Our work shop is a 16' x 26' partition of another area. In it, we have a 12' x 16' caged area that has a milling machine, a 8' Lista cabinet with overhead cabinets, 2 - 3'w x 8' roll-around stand-up parts cabinets, a 5'w roll around Lista parts cabinet, a stationary Lista mill tooling cabinet, a 3' bolt/nut/screw cabinet, a laptop roll around cart, and every free space of wall to a height of 7' has the acro bins and wall plates with all of the pneumatic fittings and other odds and ends, even the area between the big Lista bench top and the upper cabinets is full of mounted acro bins. Outside of the caged area is where we do machine building, and this area currently has a new full-sized 3 axis CNC VMC we are automating, a 6 axis robot, a 6' lista work bench, a ladder/work platform storage area, an automatic parts washer and 5 roll-away tool boxes. And we still have room to work. Even the caged wall is used for storage, we attached extrusion to it, and use it to store completed sub- assemblies, hoses, cables, tools, paperwork racks, aluminum stock, etc. Keeping the floor clean and uncluttered is a key. Having hose and power reels mounted high on the wall/ceiling is important for uncluttering. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email I had an old rack for 9 track computer tapes sitting around, so I made a rolling base for it, then I covered one side with 1/4" hardboard, and the Harbor Freight version of those bins. That left the other side open, which was filled with the old metal framed AkroMills 50 drawer parts cabinets. Small parts on one side, bigger stuff on the other! Not only can it turn, but it can be rolled almost anywhere in the shop to keep things close at hand. It is similar to the open rack shown he http://www.online-computer.com/ I have made storage cabinets out of old relay racks with locking doors, as well. I store the expensive tools and test equipment in them. They are all on heavy casters, and can be moved, if needed. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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IBM punch card cabinets are the tits for screws, nuts and bolts,
tools, tooling etc etc Heavy duty slides and drawers, each drawer is removed by simply lifting it out and taking it to the work bench etc etc Great inventions! Gunner, 8 cabinets and looking for more. |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:41:26 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. The biggest wasted space in my shop is under the stationary tools. If I really run out of space I'll start replacing the stands with cabinets. I have assorted crap stuffed under some of them, but most of it is not being used efficiently. If you aren't using the space under your bench then that's a big one too. I gained a lot of space rearranging things in the shop. I used to have a big metal shelving unit near the workbench. When I needed to fit another stationary tool in I pulled the workbench out from the wall and stuck the shelving unit in there. I lost some working space from the middle of the shop, but gained precious wall space. This is specific to my shop, but it goes to show a simple rearrangement can find you space you didn't know you had. Of course once you've rearranged everything half a dozen or so times already there isn't going to be too much more to be gained. -Leuf |
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Leuf wrote:
I gained a lot of space rearranging things in the shop. I used to have a big metal shelving unit near the workbench. When I needed to fit another stationary tool in I pulled the workbench out from the wall and stuck the shelving unit in there. I lost some working space from the middle of the shop, but gained precious wall space. When I started making my shop (in my basement, with about a 17' x 27' footprint, minus annoying things like stairs, furnace, and lolly columns), one of the first things I did was build a workbench. Nothing fancy, just something banged together with 2x4's and plywood. I figured I wanted a big surface, so I made it about 30" deep. This turned out to be a mistake. Sure, it's nice to have an aircraft-carrier sized space to work on, but it's so deep I can't comfortably reach the wall behind it and I lose out on all that storage space. If I were planning it all again, I'd go for a shallower bench. I have a relatively low ceiling (about 7 feet). This really annoying (especially when trying to store 8 foot panels!), but I do take advantage of the space between the joists for storage. I store my bar clamps up there, for example. |
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"Dave Gordon" d@p wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message . net... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT You only need working space for the tool that you are working with. Put as much equipment around the perimeter of the room and put all heavy machinery on mobile bases. Assuming you have a smooth flat floor. Relatively smooth, no make that as long as the dips and small holes are not more than 1/4" deep. My garage floor is far from flat or smooth. |
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Sun, Sep 9, 2007, 4:29pm (EDT+5) d@p (Dave*Gordon) doth query:
Where do you keep the beer barrel? No prob, I don't drink any more. Not good to drink in the shop anyway. JOAT What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new humiliations? - Peter Egan |
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"Gunner" wrote in message ... IBM punch card cabinets are the tits for screws, nuts and bolts, tools, tooling etc etc Heavy duty slides and drawers, each drawer is removed by simply lifting it out and taking it to the work bench etc etc Great inventions! Gunner, 8 cabinets and looking for more. Best freebie I ever had from work. These days only available from deceased metalworkers though.... |
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Put in a mezzanine. A small second floor that is for storage or the
shop office or something like that. Maybe just a large stack of sorted boxes... Stuff that you can haul up and down. Maybe the desk... Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ mikee wrote: Simple. It's like the Law of Conservation of Energy. It's Called Conservation of Space. Either throw out the tools that don't fit, or Build A Bigger Shop. I'd build a bigger shop, myself. If you decide to throw stuff away, post descriptions here first. If the tools are any good, I bet some of us would pay shipping to "dispose" of them for you. Mike Eberlein Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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My garage floor is all pitched towards a drain, so I cant get anything
leveled without support block. In my 10x18 garage I have 2 toolboxes , two 4 drawer boxes, 36x18 shelves, 2 side cabinets, Radial arm saw, table saw, 30x72 workbench, 36x18 metal cabinet, 17" drill press, 20" scroll saw, 11 drawers (that was for workbenches) stacked on top of each other and 2 small tool carts, 28' ladder, and I can still fit my car in. What I did for the bench was made it pivot between 2 4x4's that go from ceiling to floor (with pegboard in between the two 4x4's), when in use I prop it up with a 2x3, if I need to move it, the legs and supports get wing nutted on. I had to figure out what to do with the radial arm saw or table saw since one of them would get in the way of the car to park in there, so what I figured out was the table saw without legs was 13" tall so I thought why not make that pivot to. Yes its a bit heavy to get propping up and to let it hang when not in use, but its working out great for me, the stand can get bolted on easily when I need to move it out. 4x8 sheets are behind the 2 tool boxes and radial arm saw. I have the garage pretty much well packed, even wood hanging from the ceiling. You just need a creative thinking cap. "Leon" wrote in message t... "Dave Gordon" d@p wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message . net... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT You only need working space for the tool that you are working with. Put as much equipment around the perimeter of the room and put all heavy machinery on mobile bases. Assuming you have a smooth flat floor. Relatively smooth, no make that as long as the dips and small holes are not more than 1/4" deep. My garage floor is far from flat or smooth. |
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 22:46:13 -0400, "noreaster"
noreaster1athotmaildotcom wrote: My garage floor is all pitched towards a drain, so I cant get anything leveled without support block. In my 10x18 garage I have 2 toolboxes , two 4 drawer boxes, 36x18 shelves, 2 side cabinets, Radial arm saw, table saw, 30x72 workbench, 36x18 metal cabinet, 17" drill press, 20" scroll saw, 11 drawers (that was for workbenches) stacked on top of each other and 2 small tool carts, 28' ladder, and I can still fit my car in. What I did for the bench was made it pivot between 2 4x4's that go from ceiling to floor (with pegboard in between the two 4x4's), when in use I prop it up with a 2x3, if I need to move it, the legs and supports get wing nutted on. I had to figure out what to do with the radial arm saw or table saw since one of them would get in the way of the car to park in there, so what I figured out was the table saw without legs was 13" tall so I thought why not make that pivot to. Yes its a bit heavy to get propping up and to let it hang when not in use, but its working out great for me, the stand can get bolted on easily when I need to move it out. 4x8 sheets are behind the 2 tool boxes and radial arm saw. I have the garage pretty much well packed, even wood hanging from the ceiling. You just need a creative thinking cap. Shrug...my "shop is a partially closed in 14x54 carport with a dirt floor and a 24" slope from end to end. With the exception of the HLV-H and the Gorton MasterMill..everything else is on 2x4s or 4x4s with shims. Gunner "Leon" wrote in message et... "Dave Gordon" d@p wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message . net... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... Well it is about time to do another reorganization of the ole home shop. ;) I am looking for suggestions as to what you have done to fit more tools and supplies into your personal homeshop. Thanks for any advice you might be able to offer. TMT You only need working space for the tool that you are working with. Put as much equipment around the perimeter of the room and put all heavy machinery on mobile bases. Assuming you have a smooth flat floor. Relatively smooth, no make that as long as the dips and small holes are not more than 1/4" deep. My garage floor is far from flat or smooth. |
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