Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

Chris Bacon wrote:
Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

3 year warranty, £20, give it a whirl, what do you have to lose ?



RT

RedOnRed wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Chris Bacon wrote:
Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

3 year warranty, £20, give it a whirl, what do you have to lose ?

£20...?

No, if it's not fit for purpose, or of merchantable quality or it breaks
at any time in the next 3 years the OP will get their £20 back.

if you or anyone else wants to split it further please consider doing
everyone a favour by shoving your pedantic thumb up your pedantic
arse and doing a forward somersault out of the window instead.



RT

"[news]" wrote in message
news
RedOnRed wrote:

if you or anyone else wants to split it further please consider doing
everyone a favour by shoving your pedantic thumb up your pedantic
arse and doing a forward somersault out of the window instead.



http://tinyurl.com/6bx83

Andy wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
news
RedOnRed wrote:

if you or anyone else wants to split it further please consider doing
everyone a favour by shoving your pedantic thumb up your pedantic
arse and doing a forward somersault out of the window instead.



http://tinyurl.com/6bx83

http://tinyurl.com/5of9z

"[news]" wrote in message
news
RedOnRed wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Chris Bacon wrote:
Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

3 year warranty, £20, give it a whirl, what do you have to lose ?

£20...?

No, if it's not fit for purpose, or of merchantable quality or it breaks
at any time in the next 3 years the OP will get their £20 back.

You most likely wouldn't get your £20 back. You'd get it repaired under
warranty. Unless of course you took them to a small claims court to prove
your point. In which case you could be a lot more down then £20 if you loss
the case.


if you or anyone else wants to split it further please consider doing
everyone a favour by shoving your pedantic thumb up your pedantic
arse and doing a forward somersault out of the window instead.

What's "pedantic" about pointing out you could be down by £20?

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:56:28 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

Chris Bacon wrote:
Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

3 year warranty, £20, give it a whirl, what do you have to lose ?


Fingers... eyes....

Nothing much really....




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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:19:15 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

RedOnRed wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Chris Bacon wrote:
Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

3 year warranty, £20, give it a whirl, what do you have to lose ?

£20...?

No, if it's not fit for purpose, or of merchantable quality or it breaks
at any time in the next 3 years the OP will get their £20 back.

But possibly not their eyesight or other pieces of their anatomy when
it falls apart.

Compressed air and compressed air tools are very useful - I have a
workshop installation and a selection of nailers.

However, compressed air is also very dangerous if used incorrectly or
under fault conditions.

Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.





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RedOnRed wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
news
RedOnRed wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Chris Bacon wrote:
Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

3 year warranty, £20, give it a whirl, what do you have to lose ?

£20...?

No, if it's not fit for purpose, or of merchantable quality or it breaks
at any time in the next 3 years the OP will get their £20 back.

You most likely wouldn't get your £20 back. You'd get it repaired under
warranty. Unless of course you took them to a small claims court to prove
your point. In which case you could be a lot more down then £20 if you loss
the case.

imagine, if you can, you present the failed product (if it does fail) at the POS
some 18 months from now. do you really think that your average Aldi till bod
will be apraised of the correct RMA procedure (like there's going to be one
for a £20 product that cost Aldi about £5) or do you think that you'd be issued
a refund on the spot, as per Aldi policy ?

if you or anyone else wants to split it further please consider doing
everyone a favour by shoving your pedantic thumb up your pedantic
arse and doing a forward somersault out of the window instead.

What's "pedantic" about pointing out you could be down by £20?

if you have to ask......



RT

Andy Hall wrote:

Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.

you've got a 'shop full of air kit so you don't want to buy it and I don't buy
into your altruistic bull**** 'must protect others' type shtick so I'm left with
the conclusion that you're just another interwebmong after an argument,
prefering to generate heat instead of light.

if you don't want to buy it, don't.

better, if you have access to the TUV GS CE data , please post
it to back up your claim that anyone using this item will be maimed.




RT

Chris Bacon]Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Ali is worth having? Any ideas?

I not sure what is on offer but at twenty pounds it is likely to be a brad nailer,
Ideal for fixing light weight trims /mouldings stabilizing joints etc while the glue sets.

You can pay a lot more for this type, but the cheaper guns seem to perform well.
The actual nail is more akin to a panel pin, If you are looking for something heavier as used on many of the DIY programs you need to set your sights higher and go for a multi nailer or a framing nailer.
But for the money Its a useful tool.

"[news]" wrote in message
...

imagine, if you can, you present the failed product (if it does fail) at
the POS
some 18 months from now. do you really think that your average Aldi till
bod
will be apraised of the correct RMA procedure

I would expect that the Aldi till operators WOULD be appraised (note correct
spelling) of all the necessary procedures for all eventualities. I've been
very surprised at their efficiency.

Mary

"[news]" wrote in message
...
Andy Hall wrote:

Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.

you've got a 'shop full of air kit so you don't want to buy it and I don't
buy
into your altruistic bull**** 'must protect others' type shtick so I'm
left with
the conclusion that you're just another interwebmong after an argument,
prefering to generate heat instead of light.

if you don't want to buy it, don't.

better, if you have access to the TUV GS CE data , please post
it to back up your claim that anyone using this item will be maimed.

The pent up frustration eloquently flowing out of every repressed pore.

We can all talk your way. I take it you don't use your style of talk in the
real world, what with having to suffer the inevitable black eyes and
fractures that would be sure to follow.

So why use it here?








RT

"RedOnRed" wrote in message
...

The pent up frustration eloquently flowing out of every repressed pore.

What ARE you on about?

We can all talk your way. I take it you don't use your style of talk in
the real world, what with having to suffer the inevitable black eyes and
fractures that would be sure to follow.

I suggest you follow your own advice.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:01:45 -0000, "RedOnRed" wrote:


"[news]" wrote in message
news
RedOnRed wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Chris Bacon wrote:
Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

3 year warranty, £20, give it a whirl, what do you have to lose ?

£20...?

No, if it's not fit for purpose, or of merchantable quality or it breaks
at any time in the next 3 years the OP will get their £20 back.

You most likely wouldn't get your £20 back. You'd get it repaired under
warranty. Unless of course you took them to a small claims court to prove
your point. In which case you could be a lot more down then £20 if you loss
the case.


Do you *seriously* think that somebody would repair a £20 item? It
would cost more than that to process the paperwork and send it.



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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

"RedOnRed" wrote in message
...

The pent up frustration eloquently flowing out of every repressed pore.

What ARE you on about?

We can all talk your way. I take it you don't use your style of talk in
the real world, what with having to suffer the inevitable black eyes and
fractures that would be sure to follow.

I suggest you follow your own advice.



Read the full post instead of pulling extracts from it.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:

Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.

This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.


if you don't want to buy it, don't.

I would have no intention of doing so.



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RedOnRed wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Andy Hall wrote:

Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.

you've got a 'shop full of air kit so you don't want to buy it and I don't
buy
into your altruistic bull**** 'must protect others' type shtick so I'm
left with
the conclusion that you're just another interwebmong after an argument,
prefering to generate heat instead of light.

if you don't want to buy it, don't.

better, if you have access to the TUV GS CE data , please post
it to back up your claim that anyone using this item will be maimed.

The pent up frustration eloquently flowing out of every repressed pore.

heh heh heh. righto, interwebmong takes prose for pose, fails miserably.

world surrenders ;-)

We can all talk your way.

thinks of riposte .. walk this way [get arrested] .. gives up.

I take it you don't use your style of talk in the real world, what with having to
suffer the inevitable black eyes and fractures that would be sure to follow.

never had either. you are suggesting that if I typed what I've typed in your
presence you'd become agressive and 'punch me up' or summat ?



So why use it here?

prose or pose ? it's all in the interpretation. what you see is what you get
and what you've typed leads me to conclude that you don't get it ;-)



RT

Andy Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:


Andy Hall wrote:


Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.


This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.



Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it
is surely trading standards would have something to say ? Must admit
didn't know anything about Aldi selling tools until recently when a lad
turned up at work with a digital vernier from there for a £5 Must admit
it measures exactly the same as my £35 one.



if you don't want to buy it, don't.


I would have no intention of doing so.

JD wrote:
Andy Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:


Andy Hall wrote:


Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.


This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.



Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it
is surely trading standards would have something to say ?

a distinct possibility. the germans are schticklers, IME

Must admit didn't know anything about Aldi selling tools until recently
when a lad turned up at work with a digital vernier from there for a £5
Must admit it measures exactly the same as my £35 one.

which might lead a reasonble person to conclude that the 'quality' expensive
kit that's been purchased in the UK at whichever leading factor may have
been similar in quality but markedly different in markup to Aldis offerings ?



RT

"[news]" wrote in message
...
RedOnRed wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Andy Hall wrote:

Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.

you've got a 'shop full of air kit so you don't want to buy it and I
don't
buy
into your altruistic bull**** 'must protect others' type shtick so I'm
left with
the conclusion that you're just another interwebmong after an argument,
prefering to generate heat instead of light.

if you don't want to buy it, don't.

better, if you have access to the TUV GS CE data , please post
it to back up your claim that anyone using this item will be maimed.

The pent up frustration eloquently flowing out of every repressed pore.

heh heh heh. righto, interwebmong takes prose for pose, fails miserably.

world surrenders ;-)

We can all talk your way.

thinks of riposte .. walk this way [get arrested] .. gives up.

I take it you don't use your style of talk in the real world, what with
having to
suffer the inevitable black eyes and fractures that would be sure to
follow.

never had either. you are suggesting that if I typed what I've typed in
your
presence you'd become agressive and 'punch me up' or summat ?



So why use it here?

prose or pose ? it's all in the interpretation. what you see is what you
get
and what you've typed leads me to conclude that you don't get it ;-)


Oh I get it...you're tirades of verbal abuse and expletive language is
really your own subtle brand of irony that i've failed to grasp is it?

I do apologise for not being as well read as you. I really should consult my
thesaurus in future as there's obviously more meaning to the swear words and
aggressive style that you adopt.

RedOnRed wrote:

Oh I get it..

not.

i've failed to grasp is it?

nail, head, "red on red" says it all


RT

"[news]" wrote in message
...
RedOnRed wrote:

Oh I get it..

not.

i've failed to grasp is it?

nail, head, "red on red" says it all

Queue the drum roll...nice come back with hilarious consequences. I take it
one of your infants came up with that one?

Hmmm, did some one mention riposte earlier?




RT

Enough Aggro....Back to the OP

In a joinery workshop where I worked they had a 'Cosmo' nailer. As cheap as
the Aldi offering. It was shared between 4 joiners and got constant use.
They had had it for 4 years and never put a drop of oil in it.

Was still working when I left to set up on my own.

I got one off ebay for £18.00.

Using it every day but I do tend to put a bit of oil in every time I use it.

Cheers

Nicholas

--
Nicholas Buttle - Quality Joinery and Cabinet Making
http://www.nbjoinery.net


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"[news]" wrote in message
...
JD wrote:
Andy Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:


Andy Hall wrote:


Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price
point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.


This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.



Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it
is surely trading standards would have something to say ?

a distinct possibility. the germans are schticklers, IME

Must admit didn't know anything about Aldi selling tools until recently
when a lad turned up at work with a digital vernier from there for a £5
Must admit it measures exactly the same as my £35 one.

which might lead a reasonble person to conclude that the 'quality'
expensive
kit that's been purchased in the UK at whichever leading factor may have
been similar in quality but markedly different in markup to Aldis
offerings ?



RT

"JD" wrote in message
...

This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.

Well, Andy, any tool, of any price, which breaks can maim or kill. Spouse
has bought a lot of tools from Lidl and Aldi and I've been doubtful but he's
found them to be very good.


Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it is
surely trading standards would have something to say ? Must admit didn't
know anything about Aldi selling tools until recently when a lad turned up
at work with a digital vernier from there for a £5 Must admit it measures
exactly the same as my £35 one.

I bought one - £4.99 I think. It's excellent. It works100% (checked against
my mechanical vernier) and is far easier to read.

Mary

RedOnRed wrote:
spazzzzz

http://tinyurl.com/5of9z

"[news]" wrote in message
...

Must admit didn't know anything about Aldi selling tools until recently
when a lad turned up at work with a digital vernier from there for a £5
Must admit it measures exactly the same as my £35 one.

which might lead a reasonble person to conclude that the 'quality'
expensive
kit that's been purchased in the UK at whichever leading factor may have
been similar in quality but markedly different in markup to Aldis
offerings ?

Well, certainly we'vebeen happier with the tools (including garden tools)
we've bought from Aldi and Lidl than we have with the equivalent from the
sheds. The fact that they've been cheaper is a bonus.

The sheds have refunded money for failed goods but we've never had to test
Lidl and Aldi.

I never thought I'd praise them.

Mary

"Kaiser" wrote in message
...

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
Having already a small compressor, I wonder whether the £20 pneumatic
nailer from Aldi is worth having? Any ideas?

Yep they're great!! I have a cheapo one that looks identical except for
the
colour. Used it with 38mm staples at the weekend for making some fence
panels. The nails it uses are only 18 gauge brads, so best to use staples
(Type 90 narrow crown) for strength.

Oh, I've just realised what you're talking about. Spouse was incandescent
when he saw them, having paid a lot more for one at whispers HB in an
emergency last year.

Mary

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:05:17 GMT, JD
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:


Andy Hall wrote:


Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.


This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.



Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it
is surely trading standards would have something to say ?

I'm simply saying that compressed air and compressed air tools can be
highly dangerous if improperly used and in the event of failure.

If you had seen what happens in terms of shrapnel going at high speed
in the event of the failure of a nailer, as I have then you would then
you might think carefully about compromising on such a tool.
When operating correctly, it is designed to project nails into quite
hard wood. It can just as easily do so into the human body.

Trading standards departments operate by exception, primarily acting
when something bad happens - in this case probably an accident.

Maybe these things are great - who knows? Personally, I'm not into
playing Russian roulette.






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Andy Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:05:17 GMT, JD
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:


Andy Hall wrote:


Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.


This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.



Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it
is surely trading standards would have something to say ?

I'm simply saying that compressed air and compressed air tools can be
highly dangerous if improperly used and in the event of failure.

If you had seen what happens in terms of shrapnel going at high speed
in the event of the failure of a nailer, as I have then you would then
you might think carefully about compromising on such a tool.
When operating correctly, it is designed to project nails into quite
hard wood. It can just as easily do so into the human body.

Trading standards departments operate by exception, primarily acting
when something bad happens - in this case probably an accident.

Maybe these things are great - who knows? Personally, I'm not into
playing Russian roulette.

Andy Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:05:17 GMT, JD
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:


Andy Hall wrote:


Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.


This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.



Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it
is surely trading standards would have something to say ?


I'm simply saying that compressed air and compressed air tools *can* be
highly dangerous *if* improperly used and in the event of failure.

*If* you had seen what happens in terms of shrapnel going at high speed
in the event of the failure of a nailer, as I have then you would then
you *might* think carefully about compromising on such a tool.
When operating correctly, it is designed to project nails into quite
hard wood. It *can* just as easily do so into the human body.

Trading standards departments operate by exception, primarily acting
When something bad happens - in this case probably an accident.

*Maybe* these things are great - *who knows?* Personally, I'm not into
playing Russian roulette.

can you see what you did there ?



RT

[news] wrote:
JD wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:



Andy Hall wrote:



Buying and using an air nailer at this quality level and price point
is a fool's game and an accident waiting to happen.

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.


This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.



Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it
is surely trading standards would have something to say ?


a distinct possibility. the germans are schticklers, IME


Must admit didn't know anything about Aldi selling tools until recently
when a lad turned up at work with a digital vernier from there for a £5
Must admit it measures exactly the same as my £35 one.


which might lead a reasonble person to conclude that the 'quality' expensive
kit that's been purchased in the UK at whichever leading factor may have
been similar in quality but markedly different in markup to Aldis offerings ?



RT


Exactly what I thought myself never been in aldi but will do if they get
verniers back in at that price damn would buy a couple as spares.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:31:36 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"JD" wrote in message
...

This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.

Well, Andy, any tool, of any price, which breaks can maim or kill. Spouse
has bought a lot of tools from Lidl and Aldi and I've been doubtful but he's
found them to be very good.


Yes I'm sure, Mary.


It's one thing having something that is made cheaply that produces
inaccurate work or is uncomfortable to use.

However, I have seen the results of mechanical failure of a cheap air
nailer. Pieces embedded in the wall that could easily have been
embedded in the user. It was quite frightening.

Compressed air and compressed air tools are very useful - I have an
airline system installed in my workshop and quite a collection of air
tools. There is a huge difference in build quality between these
£20 jobs and a good quality one like a Senco. The latter will cost
around £100, but I simply don't think it's worth the risk of skimping
where compressed air is concerned.



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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...

Maybe these things are great - who knows? Personally, I'm not into
playing Russian roulette.

You don't drive then :-)

Mary

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:59:48 GMT, "[news]" wrote:


I'm simply saying that compressed air and compressed air tools *can* be
highly dangerous *if* improperly used and in the event of failure.

*If* you had seen what happens in terms of shrapnel going at high speed
in the event of the failure of a nailer, as I have then you would then
you *might* think carefully about compromising on such a tool.
When operating correctly, it is designed to project nails into quite
hard wood. It *can* just as easily do so into the human body.

Trading standards departments operate by exception, primarily acting
When something bad happens - in this case probably an accident.

*Maybe* these things are great - *who knows?* Personally, I'm not into
playing Russian roulette.

can you see what you did there ?


Absolutely.

I'm highlighting that this is a risk that is not worth taking as far
as I am concerned.

There is a large difference in build quality between these £20 air
tools and decent ones. In most cases if people want to buy cheap
tools the worst outcome is likely to be poor quality work or non
catastrophic failure of the tool.

With an air tool, mechanical failure is likely to be far more serious.

If you want to take that kind of risk, it's your choice.





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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:15:23 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .

Maybe these things are great - who knows? Personally, I'm not into
playing Russian roulette.

You don't drive then :-)

Mary


Fair point.

I'm particularly concerned with nailers because I have seen what
happens when a cheap one fell apart.

Since I can control the risk there by buying a decent nailer, that's
what I've done.

Sadly I can't do much about idiots on the roads other than choosing
times and routes.



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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...

This is not a matter of cheap vs. expensive, but a matter of safety
and quality.

If you want to value yourself as low as £20 in order to save a little
money on a type of tool which if it breaks can maim or kill, then
that's your choice.

Well, Andy, any tool, of any price, which breaks can maim or kill. Spouse
has bought a lot of tools from Lidl and Aldi and I've been doubtful but
he's
found them to be very good.

Yes I'm sure, Mary.

It's one thing having something that is made cheaply that produces
inaccurate work or is uncomfortable to use.

That's true - but just because something's cheap doesn't mean it going to be
dangerous. By the same token, just because an item is expensive it can't be
guaranteed to be safe.

However, I have seen the results of mechanical failure of a cheap air
nailer. Pieces embedded in the wall that could easily have been
embedded in the user. It was quite frightening.

That says something about the operator, doesn't it?

Compressed air and compressed air tools are very useful - I have an
airline system installed in my workshop and quite a collection of air
tools. There is a huge difference in build quality between these
£20 jobs and a good quality one like a Senco. The latter will cost
around £100, but I simply don't think it's worth the risk of skimping
where compressed air is concerned.

Have you seen, handled and examined the one in question? You might be
surprised. But you have to have an open mind :-)

Mary

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:21:25 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

here she goes again, the old cheap vs expensive argument.

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sometimes it's the best way.

Arsehole.

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:29:39 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:



That's true - but just because something's cheap doesn't mean it going to be
dangerous. By the same token, just because an item is expensive it can't be
guaranteed to be safe.

Of course. True both ways. However, having seen air tools at both
ends of the market, I simply wouldn't even think about going for
anything less than the best build quality. I don't think that you
can put a monetary value on eyes and fingers.



However, I have seen the results of mechanical failure of a cheap air
nailer. Pieces embedded in the wall that could easily have been
embedded in the user. It was quite frightening.

That says something about the operator, doesn't it?

Fortunately he was using the tool correctly and fortunately he was
wearing safety glasses...



Compressed air and compressed air tools are very useful - I have an
airline system installed in my workshop and quite a collection of air
tools. There is a huge difference in build quality between these
£20 jobs and a good quality one like a Senco. The latter will cost
around £100, but I simply don't think it's worth the risk of skimping
where compressed air is concerned.

Have you seen, handled and examined the one in question? You might be
surprised.

I might be, but I doubt it. I looked at quite a number of different
labels of 16 and 18 gauge nailers a few months ago. As far as I
could make out, the entry level ones appear to be from two different
sources, almost certainly in the far east. Other than that, they were
identical.

Perhaps this supermarket has a different source, but either way simple
economics dictates that £20 at point of sale doesn't buy very much,
even at Chinese labour rates.


But you have to have an open mind :-)

Generally I do, but when it comes to taking unnecessary risks with
something potentially lethal for the sake of saving a few pounds, I'm
afraid I don't.



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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:01:45 -0000, "RedOnRed" wrote:


You most likely wouldn't get your £20 back. You'd get it repaired under
warranty. Unless of course you took them to a small claims court to prove
your point. In which case you could be a lot more down then £20 if you loss
the case.

Talking to the manager in the local Aldi about their returns
procedures.

He said that if you returned an item that they still stocked they'd
offer the option to replace it or receive a refund. If it were out of
stock they'd refund the purchase price (If you had the receipt),
otherwise they'd refund the price it was last sold at. However, high
priced items such as computers may be sent for repair, at the managers
discretion.

However, he said that Aldi had major problems with people buying
things like digital cameras, returning them just before the warranty
expires claiming that they'd gone faulty. Often the items were No
fault found. The people would then re-buy the same item (Often
cheaper) a few weeks later.

s

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:35:37 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

I would expect that the Aldi till operators WOULD be appraised (note correct
spelling) of all the necessary procedures for all eventualities. I've been
very surprised at their efficiency.

I was rather surprised that Aldi till staff are paid around £8 per
hour!

s