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The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. |
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GB wrote: The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't take up much room. -- *I get enough exercise just pushing my luck. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , GB wrote: The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't take up much room. Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts. |
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"GB" wrote in message ... The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle tim |
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GB wrote: On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , GB wrote: The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't take up much room. Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts. Luckily, it's pretty mild for this time of the year. So much for the press warnings about a hard winter. So far. -- *Venison for dinner again? Oh deer!* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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tim... wrote: "GB" wrote in message ... The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle tim I'm glad I ignored all the advice about changing to a combi boiler. With a storage system, an immersion heater comes almost free. ;-) -- *Why does the sun lighten our hair, but darken our skin? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Its always a good idea to keep a spare oil filled heater and a fan heater
about the place for such eventualities. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "GB" wrote in message ... The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. |
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On 20/12/2019 17:03, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Its always a good idea to keep a spare oil filled heater and a fan heater about the place for such eventualities. And an actual oil heater if the electricity goes off. -- Max Demian |
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On 20/12/2019 13:45, GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* GB wrote: The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't take up much room. Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts. When I had no heating (because I decided to fit new rads and boiler between Christmas and New Year) it was below zero in the daytime. I managed with a couple of those 2kW £20 convector heaters and fan heater. The fan hear would have kept me awake at night. https://www.screwfix.com/p/manrose-h...r-2000w/855FT? for example. -- Adam |
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On 20/12/2019 17:33, ARW wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:45, GB wrote: On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* GB wrote: The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't take up much room. Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts. When I had no heating (because I decided to fit new rads and boiler between Christmas and New Year) it was below zero in the daytime. I managed with a couple of those 2kW £20 convector heaters and fan heater. The fan hear would have kept me awake at night. https://www.screwfix.com/p/manrose-h...r-2000w/855FT? for example. I bought this one the other day: https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2010c-...00-2000w/941fy I was about to go and buy a fan heater, but SWMBOI (the final I stands for Instantly) overruled me. I'm sure we'll be all right for the next couple of weeks, but it would have been nice to get the boiler working. Because gas is so much cheaper than electricity, it would have saved me money to pay for express delivery of the parts Geoff needed. |
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On 20/12/2019 18:08, GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 17:33, ARW wrote: On 20/12/2019 13:45, GB wrote: On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* GB wrote: The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't take up much room. Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts. When I had no heating (because I decided to fit new rads and boiler between Christmas and New Year) it was below zero in the daytime. I managed with a couple of those 2kW £20 convector heaters and fan heater. The fan hear would have kept me awake at night. https://www.screwfix.com/p/manrose-h...r-2000w/855FT? for example. I bought this one the other day: https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2010c-...00-2000w/941fy I was about to go and buy a fan heater, but SWMBOI (the final I stands for Instantly) overruled me. I'm sure we'll be all right for the next couple of weeks, but it would have been nice to get the boiler working. Because gas is so much cheaper than electricity, it would have saved me money to pay for express delivery of the parts Geoff needed. Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. -- Adam |
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On 20/12/2019 19:03, ARW wrote:
Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday It's a big TV screen, showing a picture of some flames? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be That looped on to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgYW1iDh0A I hought you were about to hit the lamp post at 15s in, but no such luck. |
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On 20/12/2019 19:13, GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 19:03, ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday It's a big TV screen, showing a picture of some flames? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be That looped on to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgYW1iDh0A I hought you were about to hit the lamp post at 15s in, but no such luck. Last thing I hit was a wall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztpoEgTUQDc -- Adam |
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On 20/12/2019 13:59, tim... wrote:
"GB" wrote in message ... The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle Electric shower - cover most bases. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On Friday, 20 December 2019 20:09:46 UTC, RJH wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:59, tim... wrote: The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle Electric shower - cover most bases. -- Cheers, Rob I had a gas smart meter fitted a few years back. Come November I noticed that the meter wasnt updating. I eventually called the Gas board and was told no engineers were available - it was the year of the bad floods in England - and all the Scottish engineers had been sent down there. Braw free gas I thought but it was a very mild winter and we didnt need much heating, we actually had the heating off for a while. Took them 6 weeks to refit a dial meter. |
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GB wrote: I bought this one the other day: https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2010c-...00-2000w/941fy I was about to go and buy a fan heater, but SWMBOI (the final I stands for Instantly) overruled me. Beauty of a fan heater for emergency use is it heats up the room more quickly than any other type. And is small to store afterwards. The second part being rather important, if you think about it - unless you have plenty storage. -- *A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 21/12/2019 11:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , GB wrote: I bought this one the other day: https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2010c-...00-2000w/941fy I was about to go and buy a fan heater, but SWMBOI (the final I stands for Instantly) overruled me. Beauty of a fan heater for emergency use is it heats up the room more quickly than any other type. And is small to store afterwards. The second part being rather important, if you think about it - unless you have plenty storage. The loft? -- Adam |
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On 20/12/2019 20:31, sintv wrote:
On Friday, 20 December 2019 20:09:46 UTC, RJH wrote: On 20/12/2019 13:59, tim... wrote: The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle Electric shower - cover most bases. -- Cheers, Rob I had a gas smart meter fitted a few years back. Come November I noticed that the meter wasnt updating. I eventually called the Gas board and was told no engineers were available - it was the year of the bad floods in England - and all the Scottish engineers had been sent down there. Braw free gas I thought but it was a very mild winter and we didnt need much heating, we actually had the heating off for a while. Took them 6 weeks to refit a dial meter. I would have fitted my own meter. -- Adam |
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it? |
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On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000 ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it? https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/ -- Adam |
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On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote:
On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000 ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it? https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/ At £1,700 that is some fire! |
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On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote: On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000 ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it? https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/ At £1,700 that is some fire! Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that had no gas supply) and fit it. Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to the electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-) This car https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/ -- Adam |
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On 22/12/2019 09:37, ARW wrote:
On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote: On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote: On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000 ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it? https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/ At £1,700 that is some fire! Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that had no gas supply) and fit it. Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to the electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-) This car https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/ Thanks for that. I'd been wondering what sort of person could both want and afford such a fire. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 22/12/2019 10:24, Robin wrote:
On 22/12/2019 09:37, ARW wrote: On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote: On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote: On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000 ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it? https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/ At £1,700 that is some fire! Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that had no gas supply) and fit it. Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to the electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-) This car https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/ Thanks for that.Â* I'd been wondering what sort of person could both want and afford such a fire. Any self respecting gate would close on that car -- Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? Josef Stalin |
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On 22/12/2019 10:24, Robin wrote:
On 22/12/2019 09:37, ARW wrote: On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote: On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote: On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000 ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it? https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/ At £1,700 that is some fire! Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that had no gas supply) and fit it. Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to the electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-) This car https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/ Thanks for that.Â* I'd been wondering what sort of person could both want and afford such a fire. I only gave that car as an example. The actual car (same make and model) has a darker non reflective black finish than the one in the link. Imagine Disaster Area's stunt ship and then make it a bit more black. But that is what 23 year old premiership footballers drive (into their electric gates). BTW his Dad is the joiner. He was the one with the Henry on the video. -- Adam |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , tim... wrote: "GB" wrote in message ... The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed at noon today for 10 days. It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C. I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle tim I'm glad I ignored all the advice about changing to a combi boiler. With a storage system, an immersion heater comes almost free. ;-) except for the space that it, and the header tank, take up Living in a flat (in one that I have just moved to from the above), I achieved a 5% increase in usable space that would have been impossible to have archived otherwise, by replacing a cupboard full of plumbing "stuff" with a combi on the wall of the kitchen. tim |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote: On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote: On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000 ARW wrote: Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off. That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it? https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/ At £1,700 that is some fire! Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that had no gas supply) and fit it. Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to the electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-) This car https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/ Is it meant to look like it's already been in an accident? tim |
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On 22/12/2019 12:07, tim... wrote:
I'm glad I ignored all the advice about changing to a combi boiler. With a storage system, an immersion heater comes almost free. ;-) except for the space that it, and the header tank, take up Living in a flat (in one that I have just moved to from the above), I achieved a 5% increase in usable space that would have been impossible to have archived otherwise, by replacing a cupboard full of plumbing "stuff" with a combi on the wall of the kitchen. You are of course both right. My son lives in Germany, and his bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater. It's quite compact and it's powered by 3 phase electricity. That's entirely standard over there, he tells me. |
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On 22/12/2019 12:12, GB wrote:
On 22/12/2019 12:07, tim... wrote: I'm glad I ignored all the advice about changing to a combi boiler. With a storage system, an immersion heater comes almost free. ;-) except for the space that it, and the header tank, take up Living in a flat (in one that I have just moved to from the above), I achieved a 5% increase in usable space that would have been impossible to have archived otherwise, by replacing a cupboard full of plumbing "stuff" with a combi on the wall of the kitchen. You are of course both right. My son lives in Germany, and his bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater. It's quite compact and it's powered by 3 phase electricity. That's entirely standard over there, he tells me. How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they have shut down all their nuclear power stations ? |
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Andrew wrote:
GB wrote: My son lives in Germany, and his bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater. How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they have shut down all their nuclear power stations ? About 31¢ = 27p per kWh, They have overtaken Denmark as being most expensive in the EU https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png |
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On Monday, 23 December 2019 17:36:51 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Andrew wrote: GB wrote: My son lives in Germany, and his bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater. How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they have shut down all their nuclear power stations ? About 31¢ = 27p per kWh, They have overtaken Denmark as being most expensive in the EU https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png a source that thinks we pay 21p/kWh! |
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On 27/12/2019 19:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/12/2019 18:18, Andrew wrote: On 23/12/2019 21:58, wrote: On Monday, 23 December 2019 17:36:51 UTC, Andy BurnsÂ* wrote: Andrew wrote: GB wrote: My son lives in Germany, and his bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater. How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they have shut down all their nuclear power stations ? About 31¢ = 27p per kWh, They have overtaken Denmark as being most expensive in the EU https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png a source that thinks we pay 21p/kWh! But Germans pay 0.15 per kwH if you exclude 'other taxes' and vat, so Belgium and Eire have the most expensive power on that basis. And where is Switzerland if Norway is on the list ?. They used to import a lot of nuclear powered electricity from Germany. Switzerland imports nothing. Must have big cocao plantations then:-)? According to my sister Switzerland has **** all worth mentioning and so she moved to Crouch End. Just after spending enough time in Zug for tax fiddling reasons IMHO. -- Adam |
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