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GB December 20th 19 12:21 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


Dave Plowman (News) December 20th 19 01:17 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
In article ,
GB wrote:
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.


It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't take up
much room.

--
*I get enough exercise just pushing my luck.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

GB December 20th 19 01:45 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
GB wrote:
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.


It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't take up
much room.


Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole
of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts.




tim... December 20th 19 01:59 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 


"GB" wrote in message
...
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed
at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the
weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year

I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks

I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle

tim




Dave Plowman (News) December 20th 19 02:13 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
In article ,
GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
GB wrote:
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.


It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't
take up much room.


Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole
of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts.


Luckily, it's pretty mild for this time of the year. So much for the press
warnings about a hard winter. So far.

--
*Venison for dinner again? Oh deer!*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) December 20th 19 02:15 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed
at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the
weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year


I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks


I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle


tim



I'm glad I ignored all the advice about changing to a combi boiler. With a
storage system, an immersion heater comes almost free. ;-)

--
*Why does the sun lighten our hair, but darken our skin?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) December 20th 19 05:03 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
Its always a good idea to keep a spare oil filled heater and a fan heater
about the place for such eventualities.

Brian

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"GB" wrote in message
...
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he closed
at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately the
weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.




Max Demian December 20th 19 05:22 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 17:03, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Its always a good idea to keep a spare oil filled heater and a fan heater
about the place for such eventualities.


And an actual oil heater if the electricity goes off.

--
Max Demian

ARW December 20th 19 05:33 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 13:45, GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* GB wrote:
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.


It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't
take up
much room.


Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole
of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts.


When I had no heating (because I decided to fit new rads and boiler
between Christmas and New Year) it was below zero in the daytime.
I managed with a couple of those 2kW £20 convector heaters and fan
heater. The fan hear would have kept me awake at night.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/manrose-h...r-2000w/855FT?

for example.


--
Adam

GB December 20th 19 06:08 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 17:33, ARW wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:45, GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* GB wrote:
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.

I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't
take up
much room.


Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the whole
of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts.


When I had no heating (because I decided to fit new rads and boiler
between Christmas and New Year) it was below zero in the daytime.
I managed with a couple of those 2kW £20 convector heaters and fan
heater. The fan hear would have kept me awake at night.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/manrose-h...r-2000w/855FT?


for example.



I bought this one the other day:

https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2010c-...00-2000w/941fy

I was about to go and buy a fan heater, but SWMBOI (the final I stands
for Instantly) overruled me.

I'm sure we'll be all right for the next couple of weeks, but it would
have been nice to get the boiler working. Because gas is so much cheaper
than electricity, it would have saved me money to pay for express
delivery of the parts Geoff needed.

ARW December 20th 19 07:03 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 18:08, GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 17:33, ARW wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:45, GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* GB wrote:
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.

I keep a couple of fan heaters for such an eventuality. They don't
take up
much room.


Yes, I'm just going to get one. It's not quite accurate that the
whole of the house is the same temperature as outside, just some parts.


When I had no heating (because I decided to fit new rads and boiler
between Christmas and New Year) it was below zero in the daytime.
I managed with a couple of those 2kW £20 convector heaters and fan
heater. The fan hear would have kept me awake at night.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/manrose-h...r-2000w/855FT?


for example.



I bought this one the other day:

https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2010c-...00-2000w/941fy


I was about to go and buy a fan heater, but SWMBOI (the final I stands
for Instantly) overruled me.

I'm sure we'll be all right for the next couple of weeks, but it would
have been nice to get the boiler working. Because gas is so much cheaper
than electricity, it would have saved me money to pay for express
delivery of the parts Geoff needed.


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.


--
Adam

GB December 20th 19 07:13 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 19:03, ARW wrote:

Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday


It's a big TV screen, showing a picture of some flames?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


That looped on to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgYW1iDh0A

I hought you were about to hit the lamp post at 15s in, but no such luck. :(




ARW December 20th 19 07:46 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 19:13, GB wrote:
On 20/12/2019 19:03, ARW wrote:

Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday


It's a big TV screen, showing a picture of some flames?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


That looped on to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgYW1iDh0A

I hought you were about to hit the lamp post at 15s in, but no such
luck. :(




Last thing I hit was a wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztpoEgTUQDc

--
Adam

RJH[_2_] December 20th 19 08:09 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 13:59, tim... wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year

I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks

I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle


Electric shower - cover most bases.


--
Cheers, Rob

sintv December 20th 19 08:31 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On Friday, 20 December 2019 20:09:46 UTC, RJH wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:59, tim... wrote:



The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year

I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks

I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle


Electric shower - cover most bases.


--
Cheers, Rob


I had a gas smart meter fitted a few years back. Come November I noticed that the meter wasnt updating. I eventually called the Gas board and was told no engineers were available - it was the year of the bad floods in England - and all the Scottish engineers had been sent down there. Braw free gas I thought but it was a very mild winter and we didnt need much heating, we actually had the heating off for a while. Took them 6 weeks to refit a dial meter.

Dave Plowman (News) December 21st 19 11:51 AM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
In article ,
GB wrote:
I bought this one the other day:


https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2010c-...00-2000w/941fy


I was about to go and buy a fan heater, but SWMBOI (the final I stands
for Instantly) overruled me.


Beauty of a fan heater for emergency use is it heats up the room more
quickly than any other type. And is small to store afterwards. The second
part being rather important, if you think about it - unless you have
plenty storage.

--
*A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

ARW December 21st 19 12:42 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 21/12/2019 11:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
GB wrote:
I bought this one the other day:


https://www.screwfix.com/p/ch-2010c-...00-2000w/941fy


I was about to go and buy a fan heater, but SWMBOI (the final I stands
for Instantly) overruled me.


Beauty of a fan heater for emergency use is it heats up the room more
quickly than any other type. And is small to store afterwards. The second
part being rather important, if you think about it - unless you have
plenty storage.


The loft?



--
Adam

ARW December 21st 19 12:45 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 20/12/2019 20:31, sintv wrote:
On Friday, 20 December 2019 20:09:46 UTC, RJH wrote:
On 20/12/2019 13:59, tim... wrote:



The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.

I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year

I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks

I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle


Electric shower - cover most bases.


--
Cheers, Rob


I had a gas smart meter fitted a few years back. Come November I noticed that the meter wasnt updating. I eventually called the Gas board and was told no engineers were available - it was the year of the bad floods in England - and all the Scottish engineers had been sent down there. Braw free gas I thought but it was a very mild winter and we didnt need much heating, we actually had the heating off for a while. Took them 6 weeks to refit a dial meter.


I would have fitted my own meter.

--
Adam

Steve[_84_] December 21st 19 06:27 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote:


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.



That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it?




ARW December 21st 19 08:21 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote:


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.



That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it?




https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/

--
Adam

Fredxx[_3_] December 22nd 19 05:44 AM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote:
On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote:


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.



That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it?




https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/



At £1,700 that is some fire!


ARW December 22nd 19 09:37 AM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote:
On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote:


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.



That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it?




https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/



At £1,700 that is some fire!


Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that had
no gas supply) and fit it.

Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to the
electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-)

This car

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/

--
Adam

Robin December 22nd 19 10:24 AM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 22/12/2019 09:37, ARW wrote:
On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote:
On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote:


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.



That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it?




https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/



At £1,700 that is some fire!


Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that had
no gas supply) and fit it.

Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to the
electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-)

This car

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/


Thanks for that. I'd been wondering what sort of person could both want
and afford such a fire.




--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] December 22nd 19 10:45 AM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 22/12/2019 10:24, Robin wrote:
On 22/12/2019 09:37, ARW wrote:
On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote:
On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote:


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.



That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it?




https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/


At £1,700 that is some fire!


Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that
had no gas supply) and fit it.

Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to
the electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-)

This car

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/


Thanks for that.Â* I'd been wondering what sort of person could both want
and afford such a fire.


Any self respecting gate would close on that car





--
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guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

ARW December 22nd 19 10:47 AM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 22/12/2019 10:24, Robin wrote:
On 22/12/2019 09:37, ARW wrote:
On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote:
On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote:


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.



That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it?




https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/


At £1,700 that is some fire!


Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that
had no gas supply) and fit it.

Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to
the electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-)

This car

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/


Thanks for that.Â* I'd been wondering what sort of person could both want
and afford such a fire.



I only gave that car as an example.

The actual car (same make and model) has a darker non reflective black
finish than the one in the link.

Imagine Disaster Area's stunt ship and then make it a bit more black.

But that is what 23 year old premiership footballers drive (into their
electric gates).

BTW his Dad is the joiner. He was the one with the Henry on the video.



--
Adam

tim... December 22nd 19 12:07 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
The parts Geoff needed apparently didn't turn up yesterday, and he
closed
at noon today for 10 days.

It's the same temperature inside the house as outside, but fortunately
the
weather forecast is for daytime highs of as much as 8C.


I got "lucky" when similar happens to me last year


I had heating but no hot water for 2 weeks


I have to bath in what I could boil in a kettle


tim



I'm glad I ignored all the advice about changing to a combi boiler. With a
storage system, an immersion heater comes almost free. ;-)


except for the space that it, and the header tank, take up

Living in a flat (in one that I have just moved to from the above), I
achieved a 5% increase in usable space that would have been impossible to
have archived otherwise, by replacing a cupboard full of plumbing "stuff"
with a combi on the wall of the kitchen.

tim





GB December 22nd 19 12:12 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 22/12/2019 12:07, tim... wrote:



I'm glad I ignored all the advice about changing to a combi boiler.
With a
storage system, an immersion heater comes almost free. ;-)


except for the space that it, and the header tank, take up

Living in a flat (in one that I have just moved to from the above), I
achieved a 5% increase in usable space that would have been impossible
to have archived otherwise, by replacing a cupboard full of plumbing
"stuff" with a combi on the wall of the kitchen.


You are of course both right. :) My son lives in Germany, and his
bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater. It's quite compact
and it's powered by 3 phase electricity. That's entirely standard over
there, he tells me.



tim... December 22nd 19 12:12 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 


"ARW" wrote in message
...
On 22/12/2019 05:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/12/2019 20:21:30, ARW wrote:
On 21/12/2019 18:27, Steve wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:03:45 +0000
ARW wrote:


Fitted the "big £2K electric fire" yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gip3...ature=youtu.be


It's going to need a plasterer and decorator to finish it off.



That looks pretty funky! What exactly is it?




https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/er.../ereflex-195r/



At £1,700 that is some fire!


Plus me and a joiner 6 hours to remove the old small gas fire (that had no
gas supply) and fit it.

Well 4 hours for me as I spend 2 hours adding some extra sensors to the
electric gates so that they do not close on on his car again:-)

This car

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ars-pictures7/


Is it meant to look like it's already been in an accident?

tim




Andrew[_22_] December 23rd 19 05:25 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 22/12/2019 12:12, GB wrote:
On 22/12/2019 12:07, tim... wrote:



I'm glad I ignored all the advice about changing to a combi boiler.
With a
storage system, an immersion heater comes almost free. ;-)


except for the space that it, and the header tank, take up

Living in a flat (in one that I have just moved to from the above), I
achieved a 5% increase in usable space that would have been impossible
to have archived otherwise, by replacing a cupboard full of plumbing
"stuff" with a combi on the wall of the kitchen.


You are of course both right. :) My son lives in Germany, and his
bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater. It's quite compact
and it's powered by 3 phase electricity. That's entirely standard over
there, he tells me.


How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they have
shut down all their nuclear power stations ?

Andy Burns[_13_] December 23rd 19 05:36 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
Andrew wrote:

GB wrote:

My son lives in Germany, and his
bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater.


How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they have
shut down all their nuclear power stations ?


About 31¢ = 27p per kWh, They have overtaken Denmark as being most
expensive in the EU

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png

[email protected] December 23rd 19 09:58 PM

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On Monday, 23 December 2019 17:36:51 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Andrew wrote:
GB wrote:

My son lives in Germany, and his
bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater.


How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they have
shut down all their nuclear power stations ?


About 31¢ = 27p per kWh, They have overtaken Denmark as being most
expensive in the EU

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png


a source that thinks we pay 21p/kWh!

Andy Burns[_13_] December 23rd 19 10:06 PM

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wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

About 31¢ = 27p per kWh
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png


a source that thinks we pay 21p/kWh!


0.21¢ = 18p

rack rates from various suppliers seem to be about 14p inc VAT, so I
dare say some mugs are paying 18p.


Andrew[_22_] December 27th 19 06:18 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 23/12/2019 21:58, wrote:
On Monday, 23 December 2019 17:36:51 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Andrew wrote:
GB wrote:

My son lives in Germany, and his
bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater.

How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they have
shut down all their nuclear power stations ?


About 31¢ = 27p per kWh, They have overtaken Denmark as being most
expensive in the EU

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png


a source that thinks we pay 21p/kWh!


But Germans pay 0.15 per kwH if you exclude 'other taxes' and vat,
so Belgium and Eire have the most expensive power on that basis.

And where is Switzerland if Norway is on the list ?.

They used to import a lot of nuclear powered electricity from
Germany.

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] December 27th 19 07:39 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 27/12/2019 18:18, Andrew wrote:
On 23/12/2019 21:58, wrote:
On Monday, 23 December 2019 17:36:51 UTC, Andy BurnsÂ* wrote:
Andrew wrote:
GB wrote:

My son lives in Germany, and his
bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater.

How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they
have
shut down all their nuclear power stations ?

About 31¢ = 27p per kWh, They have overtaken Denmark as being most
expensive in the EU

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png


a source that thinks we pay 21p/kWh!


But Germans pay 0.15 per kwH if you exclude 'other taxes' and vat,
so Belgium and Eire have the most expensive power on that basis.

And where is Switzerland if Norway is on the list ?.

They used to import a lot of nuclear powered electricity from
Germany.


Switzerland imports nothing. Quite the opposite - they have nuclear and
hydro beyond their needs


--
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

ARW December 27th 19 07:59 PM

Boiler PCB Repair - Part II
 
On 27/12/2019 19:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/12/2019 18:18, Andrew wrote:
On 23/12/2019 21:58, wrote:
On Monday, 23 December 2019 17:36:51 UTC, Andy BurnsÂ* wrote:
Andrew wrote:
GB wrote:

My son lives in Germany, and his
bathroom has a 21KW 'instant' electric water heater.

How much does he pay for a KiloWatt/hour of electric, now that they
have
shut down all their nuclear power stations ?

About 31¢ = 27p per kWh, They have overtaken Denmark as being most
expensive in the EU

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/3/34/Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers%2C_firs t_half_2019_%28EUR_per_kWh%29F1.png


a source that thinks we pay 21p/kWh!


But Germans pay 0.15 per kwH if you exclude 'other taxes' and vat,
so Belgium and Eire have the most expensive power on that basis.

And where is Switzerland if Norway is on the list ?.

They used to import a lot of nuclear powered electricity from
Germany.


Switzerland imports nothing.



Must have big cocao plantations then:-)?

According to my sister Switzerland has **** all worth mentioning and so
she moved to Crouch End.

Just after spending enough time in Zug for tax fiddling reasons IMHO.

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Adam


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