"T i m" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:07:33 +0000, ARW wrote:

On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

We have even threatened to send a video of the few Xmyth cards we do
get going though the shredder unopened to the senders (in the hope that
they will finally get the message) but not actually gotrountuit yet.


So how are you going to do that then?

Really?

Yes, really.

Video it on my phone

Yes,

and email them the video or link to it?

Can be difficult to work out who sent it without opening it, stupid.

Which is part of the irony of course, being sent a
bit of folded cardboard from someone who could
easier send a personal email or call the phone?

No part.

Brian Gaff wrote

I've been looking for an audible spirit level for years. Yes
you can get them in combination with talking rules and
apps for your smart phone but a simple cheap device which
goes quiet when 3 dimensionally level not on your life.

Then get off your lard arse and write one.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)

On Friday, 14 December 2018 19:35:59 UTC, wrote:
On Friday, 14 December 2018 19:07:31 UTC, ARW wrote:

We have even threatened to send a video of the few Xmyth cards we do
get going though the shredder unopened to the senders
So how are you going to do that then?

Are there people who send xmas [xmyth] cards without personalised envelopes that have the sender's address printed on the flap?

Owain

I got one this year with a blank envelope AND card. The wit that gave me it said that I might prefer it blank so I could reuse it!


NT

On Friday, 14 December 2018 22:03:39 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:33:18 +0000, ARW wrote:

snip


Normal people who send Xmas cards put their names inside the Xmas card.

Presumably strangers you mean, people you haven't already exchanged email
addresses with? I'm hardly likely to bother to send such a video to an
older person who doesn't have email.

My point is that *real friends* accept and understand when we say we
prefer not to receive cards (suggesting they give that cost to charity)
that they acknowledge such and don't send a card.

We used to get a card addressed to people we didn't know but it was not
any of the previous occupiers of that address or the name of anyone
local. The writing was all spidery so it was probably someone old and now
they have stopped so ... ;-(

We also sometimes get a card from what I believe might be my 'cousins'
but I don't know them or them us obviously (they address it to Tim and my
first wife's name from 30 years ago). What's the point (for them)?

Basically, (IMHO of course g) it's a pointless and disgusting waste of
the worlds resources and a financial burden on those who often can't
afford it (postage and cards). If you actually *want* to keep in touch
with someone, do so (visit, letter, email, social media, telephone call)
and not just once a year?


Cheers, T i m

It's a way to re-establish a bit of a social link with folk you're otherwise falling out of touch with.
Who in the UK can't afford xmas cards? It's not as if they're compulsory anyway.


NT

In message , John
Rumm writes
On 14/12/2018 17:32, Reentrant wrote:
On 14/12/2018 15:16, John Rumm wrote:
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)


*I've just watched the latest Skillbuilder video where Bisby uses a
split ring spanner for compression joints, looks a lot easier than a
Stilson.
Like this:

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Han...+Tools/sd210/S
plit+Ring+Compression+Fitting+Spanner/p23418

Yup, I have a couple of those and they are good. Only thing is none of
the folks I am getting presents for are into plumbing.

Although perhaps that is just down to their lack of spanners ;-)

My recent plumbing experiences point towards a need for robust but thin
open ended spanners.



--
Tim Lamb

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 01:05:04 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, 14 December 2018 19:35:59 UTC, wrote:
On Friday, 14 December 2018 19:07:31 UTC, ARW wrote:

We have even threatened to send a video of the few Xmyth cards we do
get going though the shredder unopened to the senders
So how are you going to do that then?

Are there people who send xmas [xmyth] cards without personalised envelopes that have the sender's address printed on the flap?

Owain

I got one this year with a blank envelope AND card. The wit that gave me it said that I might prefer it blank so I could reuse it!


If you are going to bother to hand someone a factory filled piece of
folded cardboard, it might as well be blank because all you are adding
to it is your name (and I'm guessing the recipient already knows that)
and as they say, could at least be used again.

Maybe that's it. Have a Post-it-note like area where you can add your
name and a window in the envelope where you can add yours. Still
pretty pointless (a procedure from my POV) but at least they could be
reused and be personalised..

Cheers, T i m

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 02:50:33 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 14/12/2018 20:30, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:07:33 +0000, ARW wrote:

On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

We have even threatened to send a video of the few Xmyth cards we do
get going though the shredder unopened to the senders (in the hope that
they will finally get the message) but not actually gotrountuit yet.


So how are you going to do that then?

Really?

Video it on my phone and email them the video or link to it?

I was more intrigued how you would know where to send the video if you
have destroyed the card before opening it and hence don't know who sent
it...

I really meant that 'when it wasn't obvious where the card came from
because of the handwriting or because it was given to another family
member to give to me', I would open it to see if it was from, close it
again and then shred / video it.

With her Mum it took her to tear it in half in front of her (unopened)
before she got what we were asking (sounds harsh but we had asked
often enough and that manage to do the trick).

Because neither of us are religious, neither of us send / hand Xmyth
cards to anyone because why would we? Just in the same way we wouldn't
actively get involved in any other religious / other 'tradition /
ceremony if it wasn't a natural part of our lives.

'We don't do Christmas' is generally all it needs for most people but
for others, it takes a bit more.

Like, if we go somewhere where they are aware we 'Don't do Christmas'
and so know they won't get a card or presents, how do they think it
makes us feel when they then give us a card or present? They say they
are happy to give without receiving (and I get that in general) but at
Xmas the 'tradition' is 'exchanging' gifts?

Why is it assumed that we would celebrate Xmas but not Duvali,
Hanukkah or Imbolc?

Cheers, T i m

T i m Wrote in message:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 23:46:47 +0000, Jim K.. wrote:

snip

Do you have "Nudy Wednesday" too?

No? Would you recommend that we do?

Having watched Royston Vasey I reckon it would suit your somewhat
hysterical mindset quite well :-)

Ah, not really watched any of that because it (ironically) seemed as
weird as you do! ;-)

If you haven't watched any if it how would you know?


Sending bits of folded cardboard to your *friends*. Weird ...

but sending your "friends" videos of you shredding their unopened
cards is just so you Timbo!

Ho ho ho
;-)

--
Jim K


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On Saturday, 15 December 2018 09:36:59 UTC, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 14/12/2018 17:32, Reentrant wrote:
On 14/12/2018 15:16, John Rumm wrote:
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)


Â*I've just watched the latest Skillbuilder video where Bisby uses a
split ring spanner for compression joints, looks a lot easier than a
Stilson.
Like this:

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Han...+Tools/sd210/S
plit+Ring+Compression+Fitting+Spanner/p23418

Yup, I have a couple of those and they are good. Only thing is none of
the folks I am getting presents for are into plumbing.

Although perhaps that is just down to their lack of spanners ;-)

My recent plumbing experiences point towards a need for robust but thin
open ended spanners.

Car accessory places stock such spanners intended for fan belt nuts or something similar. They fit compression nuts. Everyone warns that stamped spanners are not robust, but IME with those ones they're plenty robust for plumbing.

Aldi has a patchy selection of diy stuff in if you're looking for pressies, but having had yet another one with 2 faults my opinion of their power tools is 'unreliable'.


NT

"T i m" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:56:41 +0000, ARW wrote:

On 14/12/2018 19:10, Jim K.. wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

We have even threatened to send a video of the few Xmyth cards we do
get going though the shredder unopened to the senders (in the hope
that they will finally get the message) but not actually gotrountuit
yet.


So how are you going to do that then?


Indeed! :-D:-D


All it needs is a card with something inside it to shag a shredder.

'All it needs' is for people to stop being so f-in selfish and listen to
our polite (initially) request? Why would you waste the time and money
doing something where the recipient had explicitly requested you didn't
and expressed the view that 1) they didn't want it and 2) that the money
spent (could be) be put to a positive cause?

Any card containing anything that was likely to shag our shredder (that
also shreds CD's) would likely be opened to see what it might contain.

Post your physical address we can send diy xmyth letterbombs that
will blow your shredder and you to bits when you try shredding them.

"T i m" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:45:46 +0000, ARW wrote:

On 14/12/2018 17:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)

A really decent set of screwdrivers never goes amiss. Something like
Wera.
Not a set with every conceivable size - just the common ones.



How many sets of screwdrivers can you get through in a year?

I guess it depends how often you get yer van broken into? ;-(

Never happened to me, most likely because I dont actually have a van.

"T i m" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:11:24 +0000, Jim K.. wrote:

snip

Isn't that blasphemy?

dont ask me.

But you do all this Xmyth stuff so you must be an active Christian no?

Nope. I'm a heathen and have always been into the
xmyth food and the holiday between xmyth and new
year and the decent ****up we always had a work etc.

And we have enough of a clue to not have
ours in the middle of the ****ing winter too.

Reentrant wrote:

I've just watched the latest Skillbuilder video where Bisby uses a split
ring spanner for compression joints

Yes, recommended here by TMH I think, and very handy too.

On Friday, 14 December 2018 21:45:45 UTC, ARW wrote:
How many sets of screwdrivers can you get through in a year?

Between losing them or vaporising them, I would imagine your apprentices get through quite a few.

If you let them have screwdrivers, that is.

Owain

On 15/12/2018 09:40, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 02:50:33 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 14/12/2018 20:30, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:07:33 +0000, ARW wrote:

On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

We have even threatened to send a video of the few Xmyth cards we do
get going though the shredder unopened to the senders (in the hope that
they will finally get the message) but not actually gotrountuit yet.


So how are you going to do that then?

Really?

Video it on my phone and email them the video or link to it?

I was more intrigued how you would know where to send the video if you
have destroyed the card before opening it and hence don't know who sent
it...

I really meant that 'when it wasn't obvious where the card came from
because of the handwriting or because it was given to another family
member to give to me', I would open it to see if it was from, close it
again and then shred / video it.

With her Mum it took her to tear it in half in front of her (unopened)
before she got what we were asking (sounds harsh but we had asked
often enough and that manage to do the trick).

Because neither of us are religious, neither of us send / hand Xmyth
cards to anyone because why would we? Just in the same way we wouldn't
actively get involved in any other religious / other 'tradition /
ceremony if it wasn't a natural part of our lives.

'We don't do Christmas' is generally all it needs for most people but
for others, it takes a bit more.

Like, if we go somewhere where they are aware we 'Don't do Christmas'
and so know they won't get a card or presents, how do they think it
makes us feel when they then give us a card or present? They say they
are happy to give without receiving (and I get that in general) but at
Xmas the 'tradition' is 'exchanging' gifts?

Why is it assumed that we would celebrate Xmas but not Duvali,
Hanukkah or Imbolc?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Tpq7tzsms



--
Adam

ARW wrote:

T i m wrote:

Why is it assumed that we would celebrate Xmas but not Duvali,
Hanukkah or Imbolc?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Tpq7tzsms

I was expecting https://youtu.be/6U2XdkBkTTk?t=53

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 21:29:28 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

But you do all this Xmyth stuff so you must be an active Christian no?

Nope. I'm a heathen and have always been into the

Ahh, ...he wasn't addressing YOU, senile Rot! Didn't you notice? G

--
Norman Wells addressing senile Rot:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 21:17:33 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Post your physical address we can send diy xmyth letterbombs that
will blow your shredder and you to bits when you try shredding them.

Please reserve your senile "humour" for your room mates in your old people's
home, senile Rot!

--
Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp addressing Rot Speed:
"You really are a clueless pillock."
MID:

On 15/12/2018 11:24, Andy Burns wrote:
ARW wrote:

T i m wrote:

Why is it assumed that we would celebrate Xmas but not Duvali,
Hanukkah or Imbolc?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Tpq7tzsms

I was expecting https://youtu.be/6U2XdkBkTTk?t=53

:-)

There you go then. Don't try to be a ****. Traffic wardens excluded.

--
Adam

On 15/12/2018 09:33, Jim K.. wrote:
T i m Wrote in message:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 23:46:47 +0000, Jim K.. wrote:

snip

Do you have "Nudy Wednesday" too?

No? Would you recommend that we do?

Having watched Royston Vasey I reckon it would suit your somewhat
hysterical mindset quite well :-)

Ah, not really watched any of that because it (ironically) seemed as
weird as you do! ;-)

If you haven't watched any if it how would you know?


Sending bits of folded cardboard to your *friends*. Weird ...

but sending your "friends" videos of you shredding their unopened
cards is just so you Timbo!

Ho ho ho
;-)


Put a bit of catenary wire in the card and there would be a video of the
shredder breaking down.

It can shred best wishes from friends but not catenary wire

--
Adam

On 15/12/2018 10:29, Rod Speed wrote:


"T i m" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:11:24 +0000, Jim K.. wrote:

snip

Isn't that blasphemy?

dont ask me.

But you do all this Xmyth stuff so you must be an active Christian no?

Nope. I'm a heathen and have always been into the
xmyth food and the holiday between xmyth and new
year and the decent ****up we always had a work etc.

And we have enough of a clue to not have
ours in the middle of the ****ing winter too.

So what do you celebrate in the middle of winter?

--
Max Demian

On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

I'm just looking forward to it all being over and the world getting
back to normal again ... when we don't have to queue behind someone
with enough food in their trolley to feed a small African town for
several weeks when we just want some milk, eggs and bread. ;-(

And I got stuck in the queue with my trolley full of food (and beers)
behind some **** buying milk, eggs and bread.


--
Adam

On 14/12/2018 22:03, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:33:18 +0000, ARW wrote:

snip


Normal people who send Xmas cards put their names inside the Xmas card.

Presumably strangers you mean, people you haven't already exchanged email
addresses with? I'm hardly likely to bother to send such a video to an
older person who doesn't have email.

My point is that *real friends* accept and understand when we say we
prefer not to receive cards (suggesting they give that cost to charity)
that they acknowledge such and don't send a card.

OK. So you believe that you have *real friends* because no-one sends you
a Christmas card.
I have imaginary friends who do the same. Ain't life great?


We used to get a card addressed to people we didn't know but it was not
any of the previous occupiers of that address or the name of anyone
local. The writing was all spidery so it was probably someone old and now
they have stopped so ... ;-(

We also sometimes get a card from what I believe might be my 'cousins'
but I don't know them or them us obviously (they address it to Tim and my
first wife's name from 30 years ago). What's the point (for them)?

Basically, (IMHO of course g) it's a pointless and disgusting waste of
the worlds resources and a financial burden on those who often can't
afford it (postage and cards). If you actually *want* to keep in touch
with someone, do so (visit, letter, email, social media, telephone call)
and not just once a year?

Disgusting is a dog turd on the sole of one's shoe. Perhaps you meant
disgraceful?

On 15/12/2018 09:40, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 02:50:33 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 14/12/2018 20:30, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:07:33 +0000, ARW wrote:

On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

We have even threatened to send a video of the few Xmyth cards we do
get going though the shredder unopened to the senders (in the hope that
they will finally get the message) but not actually gotrountuit yet.


So how are you going to do that then?

Really?

Video it on my phone and email them the video or link to it?

I was more intrigued how you would know where to send the video if you
have destroyed the card before opening it and hence don't know who sent
it...

I really meant that 'when it wasn't obvious where the card came from
because of the handwriting or because it was given to another family
member to give to me', I would open it to see if it was from, close it
again and then shred / video it.

With her Mum it took her to tear it in half in front of her (unopened)
before she got what we were asking (sounds harsh but we had asked
often enough and that manage to do the trick).

Indeed it sounds twisted and bitter, and completely lacking in human
empathy, or any trace of civility.

Because neither of us are religious, neither of us send / hand Xmyth
cards to anyone because why would we?

Perhaps because its a time of year when others are more willing to reach
out and connect with old friends and acquaintances, it helps them break
down barriers, and overcome fear of rejection for a while. Most people
will respond in kind even if they personally have no religious faith,
and despise the whole commercial aspect of Christmas - even if only for
the sake of other people's feelings.

Just in the same way we wouldn't
actively get involved in any other religious / other 'tradition /
ceremony if it wasn't a natural part of our lives.

Bet you don't get invited to many weddings, christenings etc then!

'We don't do Christmas' is generally all it needs for most people but
for others, it takes a bit more.

Yup it takes you being the bigger man, sucking it up and biting your
tongue. Why burn bridges and go out of your way to hurt other people's
feelings, when there is no benefit to anyone?

Like, if we go somewhere where they are aware we 'Don't do Christmas'
and so know they won't get a card or presents, how do they think it
makes us feel when they then give us a card or present?

For some there is pleasure (or at lease an escape for any feelings of
guilt or failing to live up to expectation) in giving without any
expectation of reward.

They say they
are happy to give without receiving (and I get that in general) but at
Xmas the 'tradition' is 'exchanging' gifts?

You seem keen to have them accept you don't do Christmas, so perhaps its
not unfair to accept their statement that they feel better giving
something.

Why is it assumed that we would celebrate Xmas but not Duvali,
Hanukkah or Imbolc?

Perhaps because Christmas is now far broader and wider than a just
religious feast. Many will find some part they can partake and enjoy
like time off work, a good **** up, or to enjoy seasonal food treats,
even if not many of the other parts.

--
Cheers,

John.

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On 15/12/2018 09:21, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 14/12/2018 17:32, Reentrant wrote:
On 14/12/2018 15:16, John Rumm wrote:
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)


Â*Â*I've just watched the latest Skillbuilder video where Bisby uses a
split ring spanner for compression joints, looks a lot easier than a
Stilson.
Â*Like this:

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Han...+Tools/sd210/S
plit+Ring+Compression+Fitting+Spanner/p23418

Yup, I have a couple of those and they are good. Only thing is none of
the folks I am getting presents for are into plumbing.

Although perhaps that is just down to their lack of spanners ;-)

My recent plumbing experiences point towards a need for robust but thin
open ended spanners.

What like these:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...eelSpanner.jpg

Yup, an essential part of a plumbing kit, for the odd occasion nothing
else will fit, but not at all comfortable or pleasant to use IME.




--
Cheers,

John.

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In article ,
Max Demian wrote:
On 15/12/2018 10:29, Rod Speed wrote:


"T i m" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:11:24 +0000, Jim K.. wrote:

snip

Isn't that blasphemy?

dont ask me.

But you do all this Xmyth stuff so you must be an active Christian no?

Nope. I'm a heathen and have always been into the
xmyth food and the holiday between xmyth and new
year and the decent ****up we always had a work etc.

And we have enough of a clue to not have
ours in the middle of the ****ing winter too.

So what do you celebrate in the middle of winter?

the daylight hours are getting longer

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 15/12/2018 10:12, wrote:
On Saturday, 15 December 2018 09:36:59 UTC, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message ,

My recent plumbing experiences point towards a need for robust but
thin open ended spanners.

Car accessory places stock such spanners intended for fan belt nuts
or something similar. They fit compression nuts. Everyone warns that
stamped spanners are not robust, but IME with those ones they're
plenty robust for plumbing.

I think the only stamped plumbing spanner that is often too weedy, is
the offset immersion wrench.



--
Cheers,

John.

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On 14/12/2018 23:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 14/12/2018 17:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)

A really decent set of screwdrivers never goes amiss. Something like Wera.
Not a set with every conceivable size - just the common ones.



How many sets of screwdrivers can you get through in a year?

;-) Ask next year and I'll try and come up with a different suggestion.


A PZ2 replacement wound suit me.

They do not last a year.

--
Adam

On 15/12/2018 11:58, ARW wrote:
On 15/12/2018 09:33, Jim K.. wrote:
T i m Wrote in message:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 23:46:47 +0000, Jim K.. wrote:

snip

Do you have "Nudy Wednesday" too?

No? Would you recommend that we do?

Having watched Royston Vasey I reckon it would suit your somewhat
Â* hysterical mindset quite well :-)

Ah, not really watched any of that because it (ironically) seemed as
weird as you do! ;-)

If you haven't watched any if it how would you know?


Sending bits of folded cardboard to your *friends*. Weird ...

but sending your "friends" videos of you shredding their unopened
Â* cards is just so you Timbo!

Ho ho ho
;-)


Put a bit of catenary wire in the card and there would be a video of the
shredder breaking down.

It can shred best wishes from friends but not catenary wire

A small sheet of ballistic nylon padding could be interesting...


--
Cheers,

John.

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On Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:46:03 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 15/12/2018 09:21, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 14/12/2018 17:32, Reentrant wrote:
On 14/12/2018 15:16, John Rumm wrote:
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)


Â*Â*I've just watched the latest Skillbuilder video where Bisby uses a
split ring spanner for compression joints, looks a lot easier than a
Stilson.
Â*Like this:

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Han...+Tools/sd210/S
plit+Ring+Compression+Fitting+Spanner/p23418

Yup, I have a couple of those and they are good. Only thing is none of
the folks I am getting presents for are into plumbing.

Although perhaps that is just down to their lack of spanners ;-)

My recent plumbing experiences point towards a need for robust but thin
open ended spanners.

What like these:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...eelSpanner.jpg

Yup, an essential part of a plumbing kit, for the odd occasion nothing
else will fit, but not at all comfortable or pleasant to use IME.

I've found mine very useful for plumbing. They get in places where there isn't room for the usual thick ones. And it is what was asked for.


NT

In article ,
wrote:
On Friday, 14 December 2018 21:45:45 UTC, ARW wrote:
How many sets of screwdrivers can you get through in a year?

Between losing them or vaporising them, I would imagine your apprentices
get through quite a few.

If you let them have screwdrivers, that is.

For the final fix on electrics, I like to have decent screwdrivers of the
right size in decent condition. All too often I see terminals not
correctly tightened and chewed up screws. Both more likely with a wrong or
worn screwdriver.

--
*If PROGRESS is for advancement, what does that make CONGRESS mean?

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Max Demian wrote:
And we have enough of a clue to not have
ours in the middle of the ****ing winter too.

So what do you celebrate in the middle of winter?

His summer holidays, obviously.

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In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

I'm just looking forward to it all being over and the world getting
back to normal again ... when we don't have to queue behind someone
with enough food in their trolley to feed a small African town for
several weeks when we just want some milk, eggs and bread. ;-(

And I got stuck in the queue with my trolley full of food (and beers)
behind some **** buying milk, eggs and bread.

At my local Tesco, was a chap with a large trolley full of bottled water,
only. Probably for some sort of commercial use. You'd have thought he'd
have had the sense to go to Lidl for that.

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On Friday, 14 December 2018 22:03:39 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:33:18 +0000, ARW wrote:

snip


Normal people who send Xmas cards put their names inside the Xmas card.

Presumably strangers you mean, people you haven't already exchanged email
addresses with? I'm hardly likely to bother to send such a video to an
older person who doesn't have email.

My point is that *real friends* accept and understand when we say we
prefer not to receive cards (suggesting they give that cost to charity)
that they acknowledge such and don't send a card.

We used to get a card addressed to people we didn't know but it was not
any of the previous occupiers of that address or the name of anyone
local. The writing was all spidery so it was probably someone old and now
they have stopped so ... ;-(

We also sometimes get a card from what I believe might be my 'cousins'
but I don't know them or them us obviously (they address it to Tim and my
first wife's name from 30 years ago). What's the point (for them)?

Basically, (IMHO of course g) it's a pointless and disgusting waste of
the worlds resources and a financial burden on those who often can't
afford it (postage and cards). If you actually *want* to keep in touch
with someone, do so (visit, letter, email, social media, telephone call)
and not just once a year?


Cheers, T i m

It's a way to re-establish a bit of a social link with folk you're
otherwise falling out of touch with.
Who in the UK can't afford xmas cards? It's not as if they're
compulsory anyway.

Yes. I have staff who send cards:-) This years cheap offering from China
has had to be embellished with glue and glitter which is now firmly
attached to all our kitchen surfaces.

I suppose one should admire a desire to maintain contact with college
friends of 53 years back but generally my views align with Tim.

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In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 14/12/2018 23:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 14/12/2018 17:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)

A really decent set of screwdrivers never goes amiss. Something like Wera.
Not a set with every conceivable size - just the common ones.



How many sets of screwdrivers can you get through in a year?

;-) Ask next year and I'll try and come up with a different suggestion.


A PZ2 replacement wound suit me.

They do not last a year.

Have you tried a diamond coated Wera? Just for screws. Use the
apprentice's one for piercing cans. ;-)

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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

I'm just looking forward to it all being over and the world getting
back to normal again ... when we don't have to queue behind someone
with enough food in their trolley to feed a small African town for
several weeks when we just want some milk, eggs and bread. ;-(

And I got stuck in the queue with my trolley full of food (and beers)
behind some **** buying milk, eggs and bread.

At my local Tesco, was a chap with a large trolley full of bottled water,
only. Probably for some sort of commercial use. You'd have thought he'd
have had the sense to go to Lidl for that.

or Bookers

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On 15/12/2018 13:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 14/12/2018 23:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 14/12/2018 17:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Things you have seen or have on your wish list?

(needing some inspiration!)

A really decent set of screwdrivers never goes amiss. Something like Wera.
Not a set with every conceivable size - just the common ones.



How many sets of screwdrivers can you get through in a year?

;-) Ask next year and I'll try and come up with a different suggestion.


A PZ2 replacement wound suit me.

They do not last a year.

Have you tried a diamond coated Wera? Just for screws. Use the
apprentice's one for piercing cans. ;-)


Yes.

I prefer CK.

--
Adam

In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
It's a way to re-establish a bit of a social link with folk you're
otherwise falling out of touch with.
Who in the UK can't afford xmas cards? It's not as if they're
compulsory anyway.

Yes. I have staff who send cards:-) This years cheap offering from China
has had to be embellished with glue and glitter which is now firmly
attached to all our kitchen surfaces.

In general, my neighbours are just fine. Certainly in terms of nodding a
hello when you see them in the street. Or passing the time of day when not
in a rush.

One couple, a few doors away, are rather standoffish. Lots of kids too. If
you say hello when passing them, it seems to be an effort to return the
greeting. Which is odd as they socialise with other families.

Each year, I get an Xmas card from them. With lots of kisses. Nowt as
strange as folk.

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In article ,
charles wrote:
At my local Tesco, was a chap with a large trolley full of bottled
water, only. Probably for some sort of commercial use. You'd have
thought he'd have had the sense to go to Lidl for that.

or Bookers

I dunno where the nearest cash and carry is. But several Lidl nearby. As
he'd have had to have driven to the Tesco - he couldn't have carried all
that water back on foot.

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On Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:59:01 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 14/12/2018 16:29, T i m wrote:

I'm just looking forward to it all being over and the world getting
back to normal again ... when we don't have to queue behind someone
with enough food in their trolley to feed a small African town for
several weeks when we just want some milk, eggs and bread. ;-(

And I got stuck in the queue with my trolley full of food (and beers)
behind some **** buying milk, eggs and bread.

At my local Tesco, was a chap with a large trolley full of bottled water,
only. Probably for some sort of commercial use. You'd have thought he'd
have had the sense to go to Lidl for that.

sounds like he had Lidl sense

or Bookers

I don't think I've ever seen anything in Bookers that even competed with retail prices. Why anyone buys there I can hardly imagine. Lidl sense?


NT