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We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B toothbrushes.
There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force to
close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a prob
only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in a
wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried Googling
for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of reasonably
good quality. TIA.


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On 03/10/15 11:46, Bertie Doe wrote:
We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B
toothbrushes. There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a
prob only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun already.


It's a problem of substandard batteries. None of mine have ever had this
problem.


2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in
a wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried
Googling for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.


Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but
not long enough to given an honest opinion.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of
reasonably good quality. TIA.


Bulk packs of Energisers from CPC can be had at excellent/unit value.

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We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B toothbrushes.
There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a
prob only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun
already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in a
wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried
Googling for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of
reasonably good quality. TIA.


Search ebay for industrial AA batteries


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On 03/10/15 11:46, Bertie Doe wrote:
We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B
toothbrushes. There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a
prob only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun
already.


It's a problem of substandard batteries. None of mine have ever had
this problem.


2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in
a wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried
Googling for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.


Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but
not long enough to given an honest opinion.


+1


Somewhere there's a survey of AA batteries. Ikea came top IIRC. Maybe
their rechargeables are good too

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We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B
toothbrushes. There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of
force to close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or
is it a prob only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one
Braun already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months
in a wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried
Googling for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of
reasonably good quality. TIA.


Search ebay for industrial AA batteries




Poor quality batteries are a criminal waste of resources and transportation
form China.


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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:47:08 UTC+1, Bertie Doe wrote:

We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B toothbrushes.
There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force to
close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a prob
only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in a
wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried Googling
for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of reasonably
good quality. TIA.


2 weeks between charges is plenty.

With alkaline batteries, you pay for advertising. All brands except Evolta came out at 1.9-2.2Ah per AA cell in tests. Evolta yielded about 1.5Ah. This test series was at 200mA load. But I see no sense using alkaline if you can use NiMH.


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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:47:08 UTC+1, Bertie Doe wrote:

We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B toothbrushes.
There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force to
close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a prob
only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in a
wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried Googling
for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of reasonably
good quality. TIA.


2 weeks between charges is plenty.

With alkaline batteries, you pay for advertising. All brands except Evolta came out at 1.9-2.2Ah per AA cell in tests. Evolta yielded about 1.5Ah. This test series was at 200mA load. But I see no sense using alkaline if you can use NiMH.


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Somewhere there's a survey of AA batteries. Ikea came top IIRC. Maybe their
rechargeables are good too


Thanks Stuart and all. A quick look at the IKEA site came up with 'Alkalisk'
brand.

Googled with Alkalisk Review gave me this site :-

http://www.batteryshowdown.com/stati...arge_200mA.png

Is this the one you saw? Sadly there's no local IKEA and delivery charges
rule them out. I'll look at the next 6 best and see if Ebay can source them
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Googled with Alkalisk Review gave me this site :-

http://www.batteryshowdown.com/stati...arge_200mA.png


Above incomplete.

Low drain test :-
http://www.batteryshowdown.com/results-lo.html

High drain test :-
http://www.batteryshowdown.com/results-hi.html



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"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

Somewhere there's a survey of AA batteries. Ikea came top IIRC. Maybe
their rechargeables are good too


Thanks Stuart and all. A quick look at the IKEA site came up with
'Alkalisk' brand.

Googled with Alkalisk Review gave me this site :-

http://www.batteryshowdown.com/stati...arge_200mA.png

Is this the one you saw? Sadly there's no local IKEA and delivery
charges rule them out. I'll look at the next 6 best and see if Ebay can
source them cheaply.




Duracell can be cheap...

http://www.battery-force.co.uk/category-BESTSELLER.html

though, it does say 'industrial'? I know not what that entails.


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On 03/10/2015 3:14 PM, Bertie Doe wrote:


"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

Somewhere there's a survey of AA batteries. Ikea came top IIRC. Maybe
their rechargeables are good too


Thanks Stuart and all. A quick look at the IKEA site came up with
'Alkalisk' brand.

Googled with Alkalisk Review gave me this site :-

http://www.batteryshowdown.com/stati...arge_200mA.png

Is this the one you saw? Sadly there's no local IKEA and delivery
charges rule them out. I'll look at the next 6 best and see if Ebay can
source them cheaply.




Duracell can be cheap...

http://www.battery-force.co.uk/category-BESTSELLER.html

though, it does say 'industrial'? I know not what that entails.


Thanks, it could be a buzz word and will replace 'Pro' which is fast
becoming over-used.
I'll have a look at the Duracell, Energizer, Philips - they may be handy for
the low-drain consumption.



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On 03/10/2015 11:46, Bertie Doe wrote:
We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B
toothbrushes. There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a
prob only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in
a wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried
Googling for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of
reasonably good quality. TIA.





Try Duracell Industrial (re-branded Procell).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50-DURACELL-INDUSTRIAL-AA-BATTERIES-ALKALINE-1-5V-LR6-MN1500-REPLACES-PROCELL-AA-/311139527110?hash=item48715c69c6

OR

http://tinyurl.com/o9nlc79

Babz Media is an Ebay seller that I would recommend - I've used them for
4+ years for batteries and other items without problems

Babz does other quantities and battery sizes.

http://tinyurl.com/oxu6b7r


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though, it does say 'industrial'? I know not what that entails.


Packed in boxes of 10+ and not available in bubble packs.

http://professional.duracell.com/en/industrial?gclid=CNXBlu7IpsgCFQUOwwodaQECkg



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Babz does other quantities and battery sizes.

http://tinyurl.com/oxu6b7r


poundland is cheaper for equivalent types


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Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but not
long enough to given an honest opinion.


Thanks Tim, have ordered 4 from ebay at £12.75p inc P+P as wife is very keen
on environmental issues etc. These will be used on the high-drain
toothbrushes which get quite a hammering. http://tinyurl.com/o9wyzj2

Ok it's more than double the price of the 7Dayers I have but there are one
or 2 quality issues with these :-
http://tinyurl.com/ovzjh8k

You gets what you pays fer etc.






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Duracell can be cheap...


http://www.battery-force.co.uk/category-BESTSELLER.html


though, it does say 'industrial'? I know not what that entails.


Not really sure there is much difference if any between the Pro range and
normal. Except that they tend to be packaged for bulk sales.

Used to get through lots of Pro ones on radio mics. And on the odd
occasion had to buy ordinary Duracells locally. Can't say they lasted any
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Babz does other quantities and battery sizes.

http://tinyurl.com/oxu6b7r

poundland is cheaper for equivalent types



My experience with poundland batteries is not to use them in anything
where the battery is in place for more than a couple of months.


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On 03/10/15 11:46, Bertie Doe wrote:
We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B
toothbrushes. There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a
prob only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun
already.


It's a problem of substandard batteries. None of mine have ever had this
problem.


2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in
a wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried
Googling for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.


Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but not
long enough to given an honest opinion.


I've used the normal Eneloops in some very high demand tools
like the Culinare Automatic Jar Opener and they work fine there.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of
reasonably good quality. TIA.


Bulk packs of Energisers from CPC can be had at excellent/unit value.

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Babz does other quantities and battery sizes.

http://tinyurl.com/oxu6b7r


poundland is cheaper for equivalent types


The local 99p Store (now part of Poundland) sell a pack of 12 R6s badged
'Performance' and uses the AA Home Essentials motif. They lasted only 5 days
in the Bruan. The same battery may happily power a wall clock for 6 months
but is useless on the high drain stuff.

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Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but not
long enough to given an honest opinion.


I've used the normal Eneloops in some very high demand tools
like the Culinare Automatic Jar Opener and they work fine there.


I've opted for the more expensive Eneloops. I did see the normal ones :-
http://preview.tinyurl.com/oerb4cd

I was a bit sceptical about the claim for 2100 chargings. Could be a typo.






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"Tim Watts" wrote in message

Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but
not long enough to given an honest opinion.


I've used the normal Eneloops in some very high demand tools
like the Culinare Automatic Jar Opener and they work fine there.


I've opted for the more expensive Eneloops. I did see the normal ones :-
http://preview.tinyurl.com/oerb4cd

I was a bit sceptical about the claim for 2100 chargings. Could be a typo.


I hardly ever charge mine. I don’t have much that uses them anymore,
just the jar opener and a couple of X10 remotes that get years on
normal AAs. All the scales now use coin cells that last for years.

The eneloops in the jar opener last for years on a charge.

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Bulk packs of Energisers from CPC can be had at excellent/unit value.


The Philips ones have also been ok:

http://cpc.farnell.com/philips/lr6p3...2pk/dp/BT05381

Not bad at under 32p/batt



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On 03/10/2015 3:14 PM, Bertie Doe wrote:


"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

Somewhere there's a survey of AA batteries. Ikea came top IIRC. Maybe
their rechargeables are good too


Thanks Stuart and all. A quick look at the IKEA site came up with
'Alkalisk' brand.

Googled with Alkalisk Review gave me this site :-

http://www.batteryshowdown.com/stati...arge_200mA.png

Is this the one you saw? Sadly there's no local IKEA and delivery
charges rule them out. I'll look at the next 6 best and see if Ebay can
source them cheaply.




Duracell can be cheap...

http://www.battery-force.co.uk/category-BESTSELLER.html

though, it does say 'industrial'? I know not what that entails.


They will be Duracell "Procell" branded. Same basic cells but not
available through normal retail outlets. Designed to stop staff
pilfering them and claiming they bought them elsewhere ;-)

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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:47:08 UTC+1, Bertie Doe wrote:

We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B toothbrushes.
There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force to
close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a prob
only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in a
wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried Googling
for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of reasonably
good quality. TIA.


2 weeks between charges is plenty.

With alkaline batteries, you pay for advertising. All brands except Evolta came out at 1.9-2.2Ah per AA cell in tests. Evolta yielded about 1.5Ah. This test series was at 200mA load. But I see no sense using alkaline if you can use NiMH.


I have found GP Branded alkaline to be vastly inferior to others...


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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 21:33:19 UTC+1, Bertie Doe wrote:
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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:58:04 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:

Babz does other quantities and battery sizes.

http://tinyurl.com/oxu6b7r


poundland is cheaper for equivalent types


The local 99p Store (now part of Poundland) sell a pack of 12 R6s badged
'Performance' and uses the AA Home Essentials motif. They lasted only 5 days
in the Bruan. The same battery may happily power a wall clock for 6 months
but is useless on the high drain stuff.


Zinc carbons of all brands are similarly poor performers. I said equivalent.


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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:47:08 UTC+1, Bertie Doe wrote:

We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B toothbrushes.
There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force to
close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a prob
only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in a
wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried Googling
for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of reasonably
good quality. TIA.


2 weeks between charges is plenty.

With alkaline batteries, you pay for advertising. All brands except Evolta came out at 1.9-2.2Ah per AA cell in tests. Evolta yielded about 1.5Ah. This test series was at 200mA load. But I see no sense using alkaline if you can use NiMH.


I have found GP Branded alkaline to be vastly inferior to others...


their coin cells didn't fare well in tests either. Tests show almost all brands of any given chemistry to have very similar capacity. It seems there's the occasional shortcomer, but they seem to bear no connection with the sort of brands people typically expect to perform less.


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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:58:04 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:

Babz does other quantities and battery sizes.

http://tinyurl.com/oxu6b7r

poundland is cheaper for equivalent types



As is IKEA, and I've found their AAs to be fine. Although I've got no
wide frame of reference as I don't use disposables a great deal.

The best rechargeable I have are these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Contour-Worl.../dp/B0079G2S1C

(Contour AA). Can't remember where I got them, but they seem to
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I have found GP Branded alkaline to be vastly inferior to others...


"Golden Power" - always seem to be the ones packaged with a new item...

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On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 11:46:59 +0100, Bertie Doe wrote:

We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B toothbrushes.
There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force to
close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a prob
only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in a
wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried Googling
for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of reasonably
good quality. TIA.


I've that Braun and the Eneloop 2.45Ah cells last about 5 weeks at 2.5 - 3
mins./clean.
The Poundland Kodak Pro are quite good; possibly Ikea's AAs at (last time I
bought some) £1.50/10 are about the best value - not quite up to the best
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Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but
not long enough to given an honest opinion.

I've used the normal Eneloops in some very high demand tools
like the Culinare Automatic Jar Opener and they work fine there.


I've opted for the more expensive Eneloops. I did see the normal ones :-
http://preview.tinyurl.com/oerb4cd

I was a bit sceptical about the claim for 2100 chargings. Could be a typo.


I hardly ever charge mine. I dont have much that uses them anymore,
just the jar opener and a couple of X10 remotes that get years on
normal AAs. All the scales now use coin cells that last for years.

The eneloops in the jar opener last for years on a charge.

Don't you have any torches? That's where the bulk of my AA
rechargeables get used.

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Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but
not long enough to given an honest opinion.

I've used the normal Eneloops in some very high demand tools
like the Culinare Automatic Jar Opener and they work fine there.

I've opted for the more expensive Eneloops. I did see the normal ones
:-
http://preview.tinyurl.com/oerb4cd

I was a bit sceptical about the claim for 2100 chargings. Could be a
typo.


I hardly ever charge mine. I dont have much that uses them anymore,
just the jar opener and a couple of X10 remotes that get years on
normal AAs. All the scales now use coin cells that last for years.

The eneloops in the jar opener last for years on a charge.

Don't you have any torches?


I do, but the main one I use has its own internal battery
and is plugged into the mains all the time and comes on
auto when the mains fails.

I also have another headset torch in the car but hardly
ever use it anymore, use the smartphone as a torch instead.

I have another in the Miller Forge cordless tool set but
have never used it because I only got it at a garage sale
for peanuts, $20, a couple of weeks ago.

That's where the bulk of my AA rechargeables get used.


I used to with the headset but dont anymore.

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Not sure about over long batteries. Sounds a bit dodgy.
The thing is that rechargeable of the cheap variety, are not much good.
I find the Maplin ones, though not cheap, can be recharged many many times
and have a high capacity, and do not self discharge either.
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We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B toothbrushes.
There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a
prob only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun
already.

2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in a
wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried
Googling for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of
reasonably good quality. TIA.




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I've never found energisers to be anywhere near as good as Duracell for the
dry battery side of things.
I do however, feel that Duracell are taking the **** on the current prices.

One make to avoid are the interestingly named Flying Bomb high power. They
seem to be almost guaranteed to leak within a week or so. Often sold in
those little Asian shops one finds open all hours.
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On 03/10/15 11:46, Bertie Doe wrote:
We've been using 7day shop rechargeable AA's in Braun Oral B
toothbrushes. There are 2 probs with the 7Dayers :-

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to close the snap-shut cap. Is this typical of rechargeables or is it a
prob only with 7Day shop batteries? Have cracked cap one one Braun
already.


It's a problem of substandard batteries. None of mine have ever had this
problem.


2. They don't last very long - maybe 2 weeks. They can last 12 months in
a wall clock but struggle with high drain stuff.
The perfect answer is Duracell but these are not cheap. I've tried
Googling for an alternative but you get pages of Amazon spam.


Eneloop Pro NiMH have pretty high energy densities. I've had some but not
long enough to given an honest opinion.

Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of
reasonably good quality. TIA.


Bulk packs of Energisers from CPC can be had at excellent/unit value.



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On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 11:46:59 +0100, Bertie Doe wrote:
Q. Can anyone suggest an alterative disposable brand please - of
reasonably
good quality. TIA.


I've that Braun and the Eneloop 2.45Ah cells last about 5 weeks at 2.5 - 3
mins./clean.
The Poundland Kodak Pro are quite good; possibly Ikea's AAs at (last time I
bought some) £1.50/10 are about the best value - not quite up to the best
performer but much cheaper.


Not sure how accurate is the (above) disposable batteryshowdown.com
comparison. Did they get fresh ones from the manufacturer? If not, how long
were they in the warehouse(s). As mentioned by others, there's def a case
for changing to rechargeables.

Following Tim W's suggestion, I've ordered 4 of the Eneloops. We'll be
delighted if the Braun's last a month between charging's. If their claim of
1000+ re-charging's per battery is true - that's 1000 months = 19 years. Hmm
I'll be down to my gums before then :-)


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Do you not use adblock plus on your browsers?

Not sure about over long batteries. Sounds a bit dodgy.
The thing is that rechargeable of the cheap variety, are not much good.
I find the Maplin ones, though not cheap, can be recharged many many times
and have a high capacity, and do not self discharge either.


Yep, the 7Day rechargeables are def half mil longer than any of my other
AA's. I'll compare them with the Eneloops when they arrive. Thanks, I'll
bear the Maplin's in mind - for future reference.

Yes you are correct. I do use AdblockPlus in my browsers. Are you referring
to my comment about the amount of Amazon spam? Yes I am aware that Amazon is
on ABP's whitelist. Last month, I got some advice (elsewhere) and switch to
Firefox, rather than my default I.E. This seems to have reduced some of the
Amazon spam, when I use say, Google or Ebay.






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1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force to
close the snap-shut cap.


I think this is deliberate, it's to stop you using rechargeables in
appliances designed for standard high-drain AAs. If you have to force
anything, it's a hint that there's something not right.

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1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to
close the snap-shut cap.


I think this is deliberate, it's to stop you using rechargeables in
appliances designed for standard high-drain AAs. If you have to force
anything, it's a hint that there's something not right.


You may be correct, I've got two disposable and two 7day rechargeables (now
dead) that need to be re-cycled. I've also got two Energizers. The latter is
fully discharged, so therefore safe to use with micrometer.

'Performance' disposable (99p Shop) = 50.00mm
'Energizer' re-chargeable = 50.10mm
7Day Shop re-chargeable = 50.30mm

As you say, the rechargeables do seem a touch longer. Let's hope the newly
ordered 'Eneloop' are closer to 50.10 and won't strain cap on the Braun.


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You may be correct, I've got two disposable and two 7day rechargeables (now
dead) that need to be re-cycled. I've also got two Energizers. The latter
is fully discharged, so therefore safe to use with micrometer.

'Performance' disposable (99p Shop) = 50.00mm
'Energizer' re-chargeable = 50.10mm
7Day Shop re-chargeable = 50.30mm

As you say, the rechargeables do seem a touch longer. Let's hope the newly
ordered 'Eneloop' are closer to 50.10 and won't strain cap on the Braun.


Further Googling also suggests that it's also the thickness that presents a
problem :-
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/warn...sized.1129918/

A quick measure shows the following diameters :-

Performance disposables 13.45mm
7Day AND Energizer rechargeables = 14.25mm

There follows one glimmer of hope in bcCopenhagens quote, that Eneloops
conform closer to disposable AAs. Lets hope they mean length and thickness
:-)
http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/t...e-aas-too-big/




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On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:25:58 +0100, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ...

En el artículo , Bertie Doe
escribió:

1. They are slightly overlong (maybe half mm) and require a lot of force
to
close the snap-shut cap.


I think this is deliberate, it's to stop you using rechargeables in
appliances designed for standard high-drain AAs. If you have to force
anything, it's a hint that there's something not right.


You may be correct, I've got two disposable and two 7day rechargeables (now
dead) that need to be re-cycled. I've also got two Energizers. The latter is
fully discharged, so therefore safe to use with micrometer.

'Performance' disposable (99p Shop) = 50.00mm
'Energizer' re-chargeable = 50.10mm
7Day Shop re-chargeable = 50.30mm

As you say, the rechargeables do seem a touch longer. Let's hope the newly
ordered 'Eneloop' are closer to 50.10 and won't strain cap on the Braun.


Well, my pre-Panasonic Eneloops go in OK. I do have some Aldidl Tronics and
they're OK also.
The 7D AAAs are a tad longer than the Eneloops but are still OK in torches
but a bit snug in push-on/off lights.
I use clingfilm wrapped over both ends of a cell to measure it with vernier
calipers. If necessary, the double thickness of plastic can be deducted.
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Duracell can be cheap...

http://www.battery-force.co.uk/category-BESTSELLER.html

though, it does say 'industrial'? I know not what that entails.


How is that cheap?

30 for £12 inc VAT = 2.5 batteries for £1 (40p ea) compared with Poundland -
6 for £1 (16.66P ea) or Ikea - 10 for £1 (10p ea) ...

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