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Are Poundland "Duracell" batteries fakes?
Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries
for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? |
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Are Poundland "Duracell" batteries fakes?
Andy ha escrito: Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? I've often seen imported pepsi, head and shoulders and the like in such shops. Sometimes German or Greek. This may well be the case here, hence the different pąckaging. I've seen worse in markets though - batteries like Durasell, Duraking, Powercell, panashiba, panacell, etc etc. all with the distinctive gold and black colours of the original. The minute you actually touch one though, you realise it is garbage - really flimsy non-alkaline batteries. Difficult to say for sure what's going on with this poundland case without actually seeing the pack. Maybe as a research project you could buy one and post a jpeg of it (and make a name for yourself in investigative journalism!) ;-) -B |
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Are Poundland "Duracell" batteries fakes?
Thus spaketh Andy:
Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? They will be probably be the same as when Richer Sounds were selling Duracell's cheap. They bulk buy them in and then re-package them. -- 60 day free DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd Mobile Offers: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/mob Items for sale: www.dodgy-dealer.co.uk |
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Are Poundland "Duracell" batteries fakes?
Are these real Duracells?
If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? They will be probably be the same as when Richer Sounds were selling Duracell's cheap. They bulk buy them in and then re-package them. Surely what's more likely is that they are from a specially-packaged batch made up for sale into a particular market, perhaps overseas, and either the order fell through or they are selling off the excess. Isn't it? |
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Thus spaketh rrh:
Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? They will be probably be the same as when Richer Sounds were selling Duracell's cheap. They bulk buy them in and then re-package them. Surely what's more likely is that they are from a specially-packaged batch made up for sale into a particular market, perhaps overseas, and either the order fell through or they are selling off the excess. Isn't it? Could be, but when I worked for one company we were able to bulk buy Duracell batteries in thousands and thousands, Duracell know there are companies who will need lots of batteries and don't want to buy them in small packs. When I enquired with Duracell about the batteries sold in Richer Sounds, they said they were the bulk buy items re-packaged. They could well be as you describe, I'm only going on what we were able to buy in and what Richer Sounds had done. -- 60 day free DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd Mobile Offers: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/mob Items for sale: www.dodgy-dealer.co.uk |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:27:37 GMT, Andy wrote:
|Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries |for ?1. | |The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the |small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the |blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no |reference to Duracell. | |Are these real Duracells? | |If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to |deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? Unlikely. Duracell will protect their copyright of the name at law. Have you looked at the date on the pack? Are they out of date? Alkaline batteries have many years shelf life, so even if outdated I would expect them to work fine. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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Are Poundland "Duracell" batteries fakes?
"Andy" wrote in message ... Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? Nope. The real thing as are all the other makes sold. Bulk buying is the name of the game! Trading standards would have been down their throats if fake. CRF |
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"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... Alkaline batteries have many years shelf life, so even if outdated I would expect them to work fine. Indeed, I bought some Panasonic Extreme AA last year (much better than Duracell IMHO,) and they were dated 2013... tox |
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Are Poundland "Duracell" batteries fakes?
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:27:37 GMT, Andy wrote:
Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? I once bought a pack of Duracells like that & found they were almost dead - closer examination revealed they all had different date codes - I suspect someone had been repackaging used ones..! |
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Are Poundland "Duracell" batteries fakes?
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:27:37 GMT, Andy wrote:
Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? So roughly 33p a piece? I doubt they are fakes. Buy them from the right suppliers, in quantities as low as x 20 and they are less than 20p a piece with use by dates of 2012 or higher. -- |
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Andy wrote: Are these real Duracells? Without prejudice to any particular shop or chain, be careful of cheap batteries and particularly of Duracell. There are many of these in circulation that are the cheapest of zin chloride cells, with a fake label and packaging. Some even have the original "lucky golden hedgehog" wrapper on underneath. Rip one apart and check the inner construction if you want to be sure. Easily (in the shop) you can check the shape of the tin and whether this is appropriate for an alkaline. Zinc carbon or zinc chloride cells have the insulator at the +ve end (the nipple), alkalines have it at the flat -ve end. I've not seen any myself yet, but there are also now said to be fake alkalines masquerading as Duracells. I doubt if this faking problem is limited to Duracells, they're just a recognisable brand to forge. Personally I don't like Duracells and find Ikea's own to be the best performance and best price. |
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Chris Fishwick wrote:
"Andy" wrote in message ... Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? Nope. The real thing as are all the other makes sold. Bulk buying is the name of the game! Trading standards would have been down their throats if fake. CRF I find stores like poundland excellent, because you really get the sense of how much margins some companies and their channels are used to. It is sometimes hard to accept, because we have being conditioned to think of price=value. But the price of goods, is largely not connected to the cost of production, but how much the consumer is willing to spend. Take common cleaning products, which we all but, such as washing powder or floor cleaner. They are all made from pretty basic chemicals, and are made up in enormous quantities. Who here reckons the cost of production for a 2kg box of washing powder is far less then the transportation costs to get it to the supermarket?? Back to the duracel thing, they are pretty simple, basic alkaline batteries, largely unchanged for decades, yet you go to garage to buy them and you wont come away with much change from £5.... Gaz |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:24:34 -0000 Gaz wrote :
I find stores like poundland excellent, because you really get the sense of how much margins some companies and their channels are used to. It is sometimes hard to accept, because we have being conditioned to think of price=value. But the price of goods, is largely not connected to the cost of production, but how much the consumer is willing to spend. Too right. Go to Tesco and see what they are charging for a bottle of white label cola. 15p? Forget the contents: that price is made up of profit, bottle, filling and labelling, transport and handling. Except for the profit, these costs are the same for a bottle of the real thing, 89p?, whose contents can only cost pence at most. Which leaves a very nice additional margin to be shared between Coca-Cola and the retailer. -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk |
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Gaz wrote:
Chris Fishwick wrote: "Andy" wrote in message ... Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? Nope. The real thing as are all the other makes sold. Bulk buying is the name of the game! Trading standards would have been down their throats if fake. CRF I find stores like poundland excellent, because you really get the sense of how much margins some companies and their channels are used to. It is sometimes hard to accept, because we have being conditioned to think of price=value. But the price of goods, is largely not connected to the cost of production, but how much the consumer is willing to spend. It's probably cheaper to make the real thing than a fake. If you're tooled up to make batteries 24 hrs a day, you're bound to end up with surplus stock sometimes, which you will sell to Poundland or Lidls just to keep the production line going Take common cleaning products, which we all but, such as washing powder or floor cleaner. They are all made from pretty basic chemicals, and are made up in enormous quantities. Who here reckons the cost of production for a 2kg box of washing powder is far less then the transportation costs to get it to the supermarket?? Back to the duracel thing, they are pretty simple, basic alkaline batteries, largely unchanged for decades, yet you go to garage to buy them and you wont come away with much change from £5.... Gaz |
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On Jan 15, 7:29 am, "rrh" wrote: Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? They will be probably be the same as when Richer Sounds were selling Duracell's cheap. They bulk buy them in and then re-package them. Surely what's more likely is that they are from a specially-packaged batch made up for sale into a particular market, perhaps overseas, and either the order fell through or they are selling off the excess. Isn't it? They've been selling Duracell for years so there's obviously a ready supply. MBQ |
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Thus spaketh Tony Bryer:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:24:34 -0000 Gaz wrote : I find stores like poundland excellent, because you really get the sense of how much margins some companies and their channels are used to. It is sometimes hard to accept, because we have being conditioned to think of price=value. But the price of goods, is largely not connected to the cost of production, but how much the consumer is willing to spend. Too right. Go to Tesco and see what they are charging for a bottle of white label cola. 15p? Forget the contents: that price is made up of profit, bottle, filling and labelling, transport and handling. Except for the profit, these costs are the same for a bottle of the real thing, 89p?, whose contents can only cost pence at most. Which leaves a very nice additional margin to be shared between Coca-Cola and the retailer. Less than 2 pence for the bottle, the cap, the label and the contents. |
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"Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:24:34 -0000 Gaz wrote : Too right. Go to Tesco and see what they are charging for a bottle of white label cola. 15p? Forget the contents: that price is made up of profit, bottle, filling and labelling, transport and handling. Except for the profit, these costs are the same for a bottle of the real thing, 89p?, whose contents can only cost pence at most. Which leaves a very nice additional margin to be shared between Coca-Cola and the retailer. A few year ago, when working in a can making factory, that the complete can cost about 1p and the contents cost about 0.01p. |
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In article , Gaz wrote:
Chris Fishwick wrote: It is sometimes hard to accept, because we have being conditioned to think of price=value. But the price of goods, is largely not connected to the cost of production, but how much the consumer is willing to spend. this reminds me of a time years ago when I was working in a garage shop on Saturdays. This was a small garage in the middle of nowhere that had stock of all sorts and the boss insisted on working in the same way as he had for the last 60 years - a fixed markup. I remember we got a box of hand drills in from somewhere on some stupid price that meant by the time we had marked them up they were 93p each. A load were stuck on the end of the counter and they caused plenty of interest - but we sold none. After a couple of weeks we put them up to 2.99 or something and they flew out of the shop. Dunno if this is still the case these days what with all the pound shops and places like lidl and aldi offering very cheap stuff all of the time. Sometimes, things are *so* cheap that people assume they must be rubbish (like the LED torches mentioned on here recently...) Take common cleaning products, which we all but, such as washing powder or floor cleaner. They are all made from pretty basic chemicals, and are made up in enormous quantities. Who here reckons the cost of production for a 2kg box of washing powder is far less then the transportation costs to get it to the supermarket?? Dishwasher tablets annoy me - I want some bog standard dishwasher tablets. I don' want the ones that have salt and rinse aid and lord knows what else in at 30pence a tablet :-( Darren |
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"Gaz" wrote in message ... Chris Fishwick wrote: I find stores like poundland excellent, because you really get the sense of how much margins some companies and their channels are used to. It is sometimes hard to accept, because we have being conditioned to think of price=value. But the price of goods, is largely not connected to the cost of production, but how much the consumer is willing to spend. So, if Dixon's buys a CR 2032 button cell for 10p, how much should they mark it up then? 30%? 50%? 100%? If they mark it up 200% they'll incur a loss every time they make a sale. tox |
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"dmc" wrote in message ... Dishwasher tablets annoy me - I want some bog standard dishwasher tablets. I don' want the ones that have salt and rinse aid and lord knows what else in at 30pence a tablet :-( You should be annoyed. There is no way the tablets can replace the salt in the dishwasher. The salt regenerates the ion exchange resin in the softener. The dirty water with the "salt" function in it doesn't go anywhere near the resin. I use asda smart price ones myself. |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:46:15 UTC, "dennis@home"
wrote: "dmc" wrote in message ... Dishwasher tablets annoy me - I want some bog standard dishwasher tablets. I don' want the ones that have salt and rinse aid and lord knows what else in at 30pence a tablet :-( You should be annoyed. There is no way the tablets can replace the salt in the dishwasher. The salt regenerates the ion exchange resin in the softener. The dirty water with the "salt" function in it doesn't go anywhere near the resin. We went through all of this a little while ago after I raised the same point. The conclusion was that it isn't actually salt, but a replacement water softening agent. I don't use tablets at all - I use powder from 10kg tubs. Even Adsa are probably relatively expensive! -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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In uk.d-i-y, dennis@home wrote:
"dmc" wrote in message ... Dishwasher tablets annoy me - I want some bog standard dishwasher tablets. I don' want the ones that have salt and rinse aid and lord knows what else in at 30pence a tablet :-( You should be annoyed. There is no way the tablets can replace the salt in the dishwasher. The salt regenerates the ion exchange resin in the softener. The dirty water with the "salt" function in it doesn't go anywhere near the resin. I use asda smart price ones myself. We use good old-fashioned plain dishwasher powder, and will continue to do so for as long as it's available. It's nice to have control over the quantity added. -- Mike Barnes |
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On 2007-01-15 15:46:15 +0000, "dennis@home"
said: "dmc" wrote in message ... Dishwasher tablets annoy me - I want some bog standard dishwasher tablets. I don' want the ones that have salt and rinse aid and lord knows what else in at 30pence a tablet :-( You should be annoyed. No need There is no way the tablets can replace the salt in the dishwasher. They replace the function of the softener which normally salt is used to regenerate. The salt regenerates the ion exchange resin in the softener. The dirty water with the "salt" function in it doesn't go anywhere near the resin. A good thing, because it wouldn't do it any good. I use asda smart price ones myself. But then you have to go into Asda. |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:00:02 GMT, "The Legend" trabant owners
club@Nicks place.comco wrote: So, if Dixon's buys a CR 2032 button cell for 10p, how much should they mark it up then? 30%? 50%? 100%? If they mark it up 200% they'll incur a loss every time they make a sale. In the grand scheme of things is that such a bad idea? -- |
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Gaz wrote:
Take common cleaning products, which we all but, such as washing powder or floor cleaner. They are all made from pretty basic chemicals, and are made up in enormous quantities. Who here reckons the cost of production for a 2kg box of washing powder is far less then the transportation costs to get it to the supermarket?? There are only two powder drying plants in the UK, one owned by Lever & the other by P&G. Any washing powder 'made in the UK' comes from one of these companies. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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In article .com,
"Andy Dingley " writes: Personally I don't like Duracells and find Ikea's own to be the best performance and best price. I used to use IKEA's (repackaged Varta) but had several leak. I now used GP (Gold Peak) bought in packs of 40 from CPC. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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OOH GOOD! A caustic soda thread.
Gaz wrote: Chris Fishwick wrote: "Andy" wrote in message ... Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? Nope. The real thing as are all the other makes sold. Bulk buying is the name of the game! Trading standards would have been down their throats if fake. CRF I find stores like poundland excellent, because you really get the sense of how much margins some companies and their channels are used to. It is sometimes hard to accept, because we have being conditioned to think of price=value. But the price of goods, is largely not connected to the cost of production, but how much the consumer is willing to spend. Take common cleaning products, which we all but, such as washing powder or floor cleaner. They are all made from pretty basic chemicals, and are made up in enormous quantities. Who here reckons the cost of production for a 2kg box of washing powder is far less then the transportation costs to get it to the supermarket?? Back to the duracel thing, they are pretty simple, basic alkaline batteries, largely unchanged for decades, yet you go to garage to buy them and you wont come away with much change from £5.... How much is alkali these days. I should imagine that with some caustic soda a lump of zinc and few coppers, I could make a fortune. I was once told by a small shop keeper that if I wanted to have my name on everyone's lips I only had to buy a million batteries and they would be willing to put whatever I wanted on them. Of course if I had the money for a million batteries, I could make my own. |
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On 15 Jan 2007 16:27:53 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:46:15 UTC, "dennis@home" wrote: "dmc" wrote in message ... Dishwasher tablets annoy me - I want some bog standard dishwasher tablets. I don' want the ones that have salt and rinse aid and lord knows what else in at 30pence a tablet :-( You should be annoyed. There is no way the tablets can replace the salt in the dishwasher. The salt regenerates the ion exchange resin in the softener. The dirty water with the "salt" function in it doesn't go anywhere near the resin. We went through all of this a little while ago after I raised the same point. The conclusion was that it isn't actually salt, but a replacement water softening agent. I just turn the softener on my DW down to '1' so there's a bit of both. cheers, Pete. |
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In article ,
Bob Eager wrote: We went through all of this a little while ago after I raised the same point. The conclusion was that it isn't actually salt, but a replacement water softening agent. Indeed. Although they seem to say on the side that in hard water areas (I;d guess we count) salt maybe needed as well. We fill our miele up with salt every now and again and it's set to the correct hardness for our area (from the water company) - no problem (and salt is cheap!). these fancy things claim to make our stainless steel shiny (I don't care - dull'n'cheap will do me) and to stop our glasses going cloudy - again, don't care as glasses never last long enough in this house for that to be a worry. I don't use tablets at all - I use powder from 10kg tubs. Even Adsa are probably relatively expensive! Powder is ok but is a pain (gets damps, gets spilled on the floor etc etc). I'm happy to pay for the convenience of the tablets - just not the 30p a go that some of them are now! Still, it seems that Tescos are now doing dual action ones again. Under 10p a go isnt quite as bad (and yeah, I know they can be found a lot less than that). Darren |
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"Pete C" wrote in message ... On 15 Jan 2007 16:27:53 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:46:15 UTC, "dennis@home" wrote: "dmc" wrote in message ... Dishwasher tablets annoy me - I want some bog standard dishwasher tablets. I don' want the ones that have salt and rinse aid and lord knows what else in at 30pence a tablet :-( You should be annoyed. There is no way the tablets can replace the salt in the dishwasher. The salt regenerates the ion exchange resin in the softener. The dirty water with the "salt" function in it doesn't go anywhere near the resin. We went through all of this a little while ago after I raised the same point. The conclusion was that it isn't actually salt, but a replacement water softening agent. I just turn the softener on my DW down to '1' so there's a bit of both. But do you still put salt in? If you don't you could ruin the ion exchange resin and then you would always have to use a "salt" substitute tablet. I suspect that is their intention. |
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The Legend wrote:
"Gaz" wrote in message ... Chris Fishwick wrote: I find stores like poundland excellent, because you really get the sense of how much margins some companies and their channels are used to. It is sometimes hard to accept, because we have being conditioned to think of price=value. But the price of goods, is largely not connected to the cost of production, but how much the consumer is willing to spend. So, if Dixon's buys a CR 2032 button cell for 10p, how much should they mark it up then? 30%? 50%? 100%? If they mark it up 200% they'll incur a loss every time they make a sale. tox But the mark up in this cases would be about 5000%.... Gaz |
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In message , rrh
writes Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? They will be probably be the same as when Richer Sounds were selling Duracell's cheap. They bulk buy them in and then re-package them. Surely what's more likely is that they are from a specially-packaged batch made up for sale into a particular market, perhaps overseas, and either the order fell through or they are selling off the excess. Isn't it? Or old stock, well past the sell by date -- geoff |
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"The Legend" trabant owners club@Nicks place.comco wrote in message ... "Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... Alkaline batteries have many years shelf life, so even if outdated I would expect them to work fine. Indeed, I bought some Panasonic Extreme AA last year (much better than Duracell IMHO,) and they were dated 2013... Yes, I had some in the cupboard with a long date (I can't remember the brand, but it was a 'brand'). By the time that I got to use them they were still well in date .... and dead. IME the long life date is a fiction. tim |
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"Gaz" wrote in message ... The Legend wrote: So, if Dixon's buys a CR 2032 button cell for 10p, how much should they mark it up then? 30%? 50%? 100%? If they mark it up 200% they'll incur a loss every time they make a sale. tox But the mark up in this cases would be about 5000%.... And how much of that do you think is profit? Just for starters, things such as button cells, just like razor blades in a supermarket, must be nicked by the thousand. tox |
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Iguana wrote:
"Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:24:34 -0000 Gaz wrote : Too right. Go to Tesco and see what they are charging for a bottle of white label cola. 15p? Forget the contents: that price is made up of profit, bottle, filling and labelling, transport and handling. Except for the profit, these costs are the same for a bottle of the real thing, 89p?, whose contents can only cost pence at most. Which leaves a very nice additional margin to be shared between Coca-Cola and the retailer. A few year ago, when working in a can making factory, that the complete can cost about 1p and the contents cost about 0.01p. No doubt the people in the factory worked for free, the electric company waived the bills for the plant, the bottling and processing kit was donated FOC by the manufacturer, the building was rent free and there were no charges for gas, water, sewerage etc..!???? I take your point though - it also bugs me that a 500ml bottle is about 90p and 1.5 litres is only about 30p more |
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OOH GOOD! A caustic soda thread.
Owain wrote: Weatherlawyer wrote: I was once told by a small shop keeper that if I wanted to have my name on everyone's lips I only had to buy a million batteries and they would be willing to put whatever I wanted on them. I expect in a few years' time someone will invent genetically-modified promotional cold sores that erupt in the shape of product logos. Wot? No caustic comments? |
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"Andy" wrote in message ... Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? I live in County Durham, yes I know, someone has to, aside from that, there is a company not too far from where I live that deals with repackaging of item that are either near or past their sell by date and then they sell them onto shops like, but not necessarily, Poundland, Everything's a £ etc and even market stalls. They tend to employ, through and agency, a huge amount of foreign workers who will work for peanuts. -- the_constructor |
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Thus spaketh Linker3000:
Iguana wrote: "Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:24:34 -0000 Gaz wrote : Too right. Go to Tesco and see what they are charging for a bottle of white label cola. 15p? Forget the contents: that price is made up of profit, bottle, filling and labelling, transport and handling. Except for the profit, these costs are the same for a bottle of the real thing, 89p?, whose contents can only cost pence at most. Which leaves a very nice additional margin to be shared between Coca-Cola and the retailer. A few year ago, when working in a can making factory, that the complete can cost about 1p and the contents cost about 0.01p. No doubt the people in the factory worked for free, the electric company waived the bills for the plant, the bottling and processing kit was donated FOC by the manufacturer, the building was rent free and there were no charges for gas, water, sewerage etc..!???? I take your point though - it also bugs me that a 500ml bottle is about 90p and 1.5 litres is only about 30p more The cost of the 500ml bottle and the cost of the 1,500ml bottle are virtually the same cost, the cap is the same cost and the label virtually the same cost, it's still around 2p per bottle to make including contents whether a 500ml, 1250ml, 1500ml or 2000ml bottle. |
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b wrote: Andy ha escrito: Poundland (in the UK) sells a set of three AAA Duracell Plus batteries for £1. The batteries are sold in a blister pack The cells seem to have all the small print of a genuine Duracell on. However the backing card of the blister pack has some nondescript brand name on it and makes no reference to Duracell. Are these real Duracells? If not then why would a known chain like Pouldland really try to deliberately pass off counterfeit goods as the real thing? I've often seen imported pepsi, Yes, but 4 cans for £1 is not the cheapest you can get. Lidl often have 5 cans for £1 offers. Bough energy saver (neon) bulbs for £1 at Poundland. Problem was they gave out a horrible clinical cold light as in a mortuary or something. But soaps and tooth paste cheap. You win some - lose some. |
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"Linker3000" wrote in message ... Iguana wrote: "Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:24:34 -0000 Gaz wrote : Too right. Go to Tesco and see what they are charging for a bottle of white label cola. 15p? Forget the contents: that price is made up of profit, bottle, filling and labelling, transport and handling. Except for the profit, these costs are the same for a bottle of the real thing, 89p?, whose contents can only cost pence at most. Which leaves a very nice additional margin to be shared between Coca-Cola and the retailer. A few year ago, when working in a can making factory, that the complete can cost about 1p and the contents cost about 0.01p. No doubt the people in the factory worked for free, the electric company waived the bills for the plant, the bottling and processing kit was donated FOC by the manufacturer, the building was rent free and there were no charges for gas, water, sewerage etc..!???? These were the factory gate prices, including all overheads, profit, etc. I take your point though - it also bugs me that a 500ml bottle is about 90p and 1.5 litres is only about 30p more |
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