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On Friday, 27 February 2015 14:10:44 UTC, Nightjar wrote:
That is where I keep a laminated card with my medications listed and
another with information about my heart valve replacement. As the wallet
is of a type that attaches to my belt and tucks inside the trouser
waistband, the only time I won't have my wallet on me is when I have my
trousers off.


That didn't help Nelson Rockefeller or Lord Palmerston ...

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On 27/02/2015 10:59, Gordon Henderson wrote:
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911 is not an emergency number in the UK. Never has been, never will be....


Which doesn't mean it won't get you help:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...1-rescued.html

Considering that there are more than 20 different emergency numbers
around the world, mobile phones really ought to be able to redirect an
emergency call to the local services if the user dials the number they
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On 27/02/2015 10:41, Rod Speed wrote:
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Not really, anyone who finds that person in that situation should
be calling 911 first and doing that on their own phone usually....


I thought the Aussie emergency number was 000.


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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:36:11 +0000, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

Considering that there are more than 20 different emergency numbers
around the world, mobile phones really ought to be able to redirect an
emergency call to the local services if the user dials the number they
know from home.


Which is great, but... If you happen to be in Bristol, pick up the phone
and dial 911, then pause, there are ten thousand possible valid phone
numbers you could be dialling. Only one of them is the US emergency
number.

Bristol may not be the only city where that applies.
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On 27/02/2015 10:41, Rod Speed wrote:
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Not really, anyone who finds that person in that situation should
be calling 911 first and doing that on their own phone usually....


I thought the Aussie emergency number was 000.



I thought it was XXXX


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On 27/02/2015 10:41, Rod Speed wrote:
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Not really, anyone who finds that person in that situation should be
calling 911 first and doing that on their own phone usually....


I thought the Aussie emergency number was 000.


666, surely.
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On 27/02/2015 14:56, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:36:11 +0000, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

Considering that there are more than 20 different emergency numbers
around the world, mobile phones really ought to be able to redirect an
emergency call to the local services if the user dials the number they
know from home.


Which is great, but... If you happen to be in Bristol, pick up the phone
and dial 911, then pause, there are ten thousand possible valid phone
numbers you could be dialling. Only one of them is the US emergency
number.

Bristol may not be the only city where that applies.


Do mobiles recognise local land line numbers without the dialling code?
I've never tried dialling from my mobile without including the dialling
code. When using my mobile abroad, I always include the country code as
well, even when dialling a number local to where I am.

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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 11:05:28 +0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:54:36 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

MedicAlert is perhaps the best service.


Bit technological, requires phone line/mobile service. Very patchy 2G
coverage around here...

Bits of paper just work and the information is just there without having
to call a number, give code, have information dictated and written down
by caller.


MedicAlert has basic information (the most important stuff) engraved on
the bracelet with the numbers. And they supply a printed card too.

My son and I both use this...



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On 27/02/2015 14:56, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:36:11 +0000, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

Considering that there are more than 20 different emergency numbers
around the world, mobile phones really ought to be able to redirect an
emergency call to the local services if the user dials the number they
know from home.


Which is great, but... If you happen to be in Bristol, pick up the phone
and dial 911, then pause, there are ten thousand possible valid phone
numbers you could be dialling. Only one of them is the US emergency
number.

Bristol may not be the only city where that applies.


Do mobiles recognise local land line numbers without the dialling code?


No

I've never tried dialling from my mobile without including the dialling
code.


'The number you have called has nor been recognised'....


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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:42:23 +0000, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

Which is great, but... If you happen to be in Bristol, pick up the
phone and dial 911, then pause, there are ten thousand possible valid
phone numbers you could be dialling. Only one of them is the US
emergency number.

Bristol may not be the only city where that applies.


Do mobiles recognise local land line numbers without the dialling code?


No.

But if you happened to use it from a landline, or happened to try calling
from a mobile forgetting the area code.

When using my mobile abroad, I always include the country code as
well, even when dialling a number local to where I am.


Yep, most of my numbers are +44 in the address book, too. Sometimes,
though, that causes them not to come up correctly on inbound calls.


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/Do mobiles recognise local land line numbers without the dialling code?
I've never tried dialling from my mobile without including the dialling
code. /q

Er..... Uk-Ring-Yourself ?

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On 26/02/2015 11:14, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Having Parkinsons I'm on regular medication, at the moment not
particularly time critical but as the brain rot progresses it will
become time critical.

So looking ahead I'm looking for some form of "Medical ID". This
can't really be an engraved thing as I want it to inform people that
I have Parkinsons and have details of my the meds and how often I
should take them.

I've had a quick look about the net and really only found bracelets
or necklace lockets/capsules, wallet cards or USB memory devices that
fit the rewriteable specification.

It's no good carrying the information if a medic can't read it, which
really rules out the USB things. That leaves a bracelet/necklace
locket/capsule or wallet cards.

What sort of medical ID does TMH's London Ambulance paramedic
daughter consider to be the one they will most likely find?


Only just got hold of her, she's been on shifts.

The most common is a tube in the fridge, they always look there first if
attending at a home. No good if you're out and about.

USB devices aren't any help, they have no way of reading them on the
ambulance or FRU. The hospital could read them, but she thinks it would
probably be overlooked or lost. She has never actually come across one
in 7 years.

She thinks a tiny capsule, roughly the size of a tyre valve attached to
a bracelet or necklace is the best. Especially if the bracelet had
"medical details in capsule" engraved on it.


The info she would want on paper in the capsule;

Name
DOB
Next of kin
Allergies
Medication - she could work out your medical condition from the medication.

HTH


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On 27/02/2015 17:03, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:42:23 +0000, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

Which is great, but... If you happen to be in Bristol, pick up the
phone and dial 911, then pause, there are ten thousand possible valid
phone numbers you could be dialling. Only one of them is the US
emergency number.

Bristol may not be the only city where that applies.


Do mobiles recognise local land line numbers without the dialling code?


No....


In which case, my suggestion that mobile phones should be able to divert
to the local emergency number if the user dials the number they would
use in their home country isn't affected by what happens on land lines
in Bristol.


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On 27/02/2015 16:42, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 27/02/2015 14:56, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:36:11 +0000, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

Considering that there are more than 20 different emergency numbers
around the world, mobile phones really ought to be able to redirect an
emergency call to the local services if the user dials the number they
know from home.


Which is great, but... If you happen to be in Bristol, pick up the phone
and dial 911, then pause, there are ten thousand possible valid phone
numbers you could be dialling. Only one of them is the US emergency
number.

Bristol may not be the only city where that applies.


Do mobiles recognise local land line numbers without the dialling code?


No.


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Liquorice scribeth thus
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:45:27 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

If you want to be "belt and braces" have a bracelet too, that being the
usual pulse point that most non-medical people would look for.


Maybe, though I suspecct most of the Great Unwashed haven't a clue
about first aid. CF. Police man recently praised as a hero for saving
babys life by simply removing babys tongue from its throat. Mother
was screaming down the phone which is what attracted the attention of
the PC. WTF didn't mother check air way and remove tongue when baby
first got into difficulty. Why did she leave baby whilst it was
having a fit?


Because .. some people are better at handling such emergencies than
others Dave .. human nature;!..


I remember being told by my eldest daughters boyfriend a few years ago
on what happened in an accident on the north circular road. Seems her
mates who were in the car got out and were screaming and panicking
whilst she was ordering someone to direct the traffic, call and
ambulance someone else to go and make sure no one lit a fag up and then
she went around the people who were hurt usual stuff "can you hear me
mate!, what's yer name?, does it hurt anywhere" and did a rough triage
with five people..

He said he just looked on amazed as to just how calm she was with it
all..

Several years in the St John Ambulance prolly had something to do with
it;!..

OK there's basically SFA you can do about someone in a fit but you
can try and stop them hurting themselves, remove tongue from throat
if they swallow it, prevent them drowing in their own vomit and put
them into the recovery position once the fit has subsided. It's also
a good idea to be around when they regain conciousness as they may
well be very confused and not have a clue as to what has happened.


Had that three times with epileptic's over time one was up on a bloody
rooftop!! one once on a main road he was driving!, and once I think it
was drug induced. But as you say try not to let them hurt themselves too
much and check that they can breathe etc..

In number two good job the ignition switch was in the middle of the dash
and the handbrake was a very effective one!
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The info she would want on paper in the capsule;

Name
DOB
Next of kin
Allergies
Medication - she could work out your medical condition from the medication.


Really? What if it said "Prednisolone"?

Prescribed for a myriad of conditions, some more life threatening than
others. No reason really NOT to put medical condition in as well.

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/Really? What if it said "Prednisolone"?

Prescribed for a myriad of conditions, some more life threatening than
others. No reason really NOT to put medical condition in as well. /q

Go on then I call.... Name some of these life threatening conditions that'll get you before you get some pred in a day or so?

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/Really? What if it said "Prednisolone"?

Prescribed for a myriad of conditions, some more life threatening than
others. No reason really NOT to put medical condition in as well. /q

Go on then I call.... Name some of these life threatening conditions
that'll get you before you get some pred in a day or so?

Jim K


That's not my point. My point is that you can't simply diagnose a condition
from someone's medication. Prednisolone was just an example. There are
plenty of drugs administered forwidely differing conditions. Few would be
life-threatening in the short-term if medication was altered/stopped
briefly etc. but why should anyone have to guess when it would make far
more sense to include the illness.

Your newsreader is still broken.

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On 27/02/2015 11:17, Huge wrote:
Blimey, does anyone here regard Wodders as anything other than a figure of fun?


I get precious little fun out of his posting.

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On 27/02/2015 11:05, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:54:36 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

MedicAlert is perhaps the best service.


Bit technological, requires phone line/mobile service. Very patchy 2G
coverage around here...

Bits of paper just work and the information is just there without
having to call a number, give code, have information dictated and
written down by caller.

Small bit of paper can get lost though. I do like the lock screen
image idea.


You can't be sure that anything valuable won't be stolen while you are
lying helpless:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-forward.html

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/Really? What if it said "Prednisolone"?

Prescribed for a myriad of conditions, some more life threatening than
others. No reason really NOT to put medical condition in as well. /q

Go on then I call.... Name some of these life threatening conditions
that'll get you before you get some pred in a day or so?

Jim K


That's not my point. My point is that you can't simply diagnose a condition
from someone's medication. Prednisolone was just an example. There are
plenty of drugs administered forwidely differing conditions. Few would be
life-threatening in the short-term if medication was altered/stopped
briefly etc. but why should anyone have to guess when it would make far
more sense to include the illness.


I think what TMH's daughter meant, was that in the context of a
paramedic and an emergency situation they can probably tell from the
medication the important things that matter to them, rather than do a
full diagnosis.

But no, assuming there is space then I can't see the reason for not
including the medical condtion(s)
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:19:43 +0000, Martin Brown wrote:

Also worth having ICE numbers set up in your mobile phone.


As others have pointed out that is behind a pin or swipe pattern.


No its not with the best phones.

There is the "owner information" that is displayed on the lock screen
though. Not a bad idea.


Medical ID is displayed there with the best phones.


What are you referring to by 'the best phones', in what way is not just
giving an example helpful?

I have a recent model (2014) android phone running Android Kitkat 4.4.4
there is no in built Medical Info display on the lock screen that I am
aware of. Not even really sure what you are talkign about

No will ICE contacts appear on there AFAIK, though you can probably get
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On 27/02/2015 10:56, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:50:11 +0000, Fredxxx wrote:

... it may be worth having that engraved too so someone can force

feed
you a mars bar in an emergency.

You really ought to try and assertain if the diabetic is hyper- or
hypo- glycemic before you shove sugar into them.


Giving a hyper-glycemic diabetic sugar is considered less dangerous that
not giving sugar to a hypo-glycemic diabetic.


True enough but I didn't say don't give sugar I said try and find out
which extreme they are at. The chances are it is hypo- and that
condition is more dangerous than hyper-.


If the person is sufficiently lucid then yes of course find out.

If a known diabetic, not lucid or unable to get a conversation, or being
in a coma, then I would search them for any dextrose and do my best to
get it into their mouth.
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On 27/02/2015 17:59, Tim+ wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

The info she would want on paper in the capsule;

Name
DOB
Next of kin
Allergies
Medication - she could work out your medical condition from the medication.


Really? What if it said "Prednisolone"?

Prescribed for a myriad of conditions, some more life threatening than
others. No reason really NOT to put medical condition in as well.



Just repeating what she said.....



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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:47:00 +1100, john james wrote:

Not that I'm going to change my phone just for this.


You likely won't have to unless the phone is a real dinosaur.


Is a Samsung Galaxy SIII mini "a real dinosaur"?


No.

I'm also assuming this is built into the OS rather than a lock screen app.


Not necessarily built in to the OS, with androids
that stuff its trivially addable with an app.



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/Your newsreader is still broken. /q

I find it works perfectly adequately for this group.

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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:30:26 +0000, Capitol wrote:

Most phones are big enough to put a label on the back with all the
starting details required.


Needs to be easily updateable. Something on the outside of the case
would have to be fairly robust. Inside the screen flap could work, if
a label could be found that was water resistant (I work outside) and
peeled away cleanly. But I don't always have my phone.


And first responders won't necessarily look there either.

Looks like you need quite a bit of redundancy, a card in
your wallet, Medical ID on your phone, maybe even a
bracelet, tho like you I have never been into jewellery of
any kind and haven't worn a watch for decades now.

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:19:43 +0000, Martin Brown wrote:

Also worth having ICE numbers set up in your mobile phone.

As others have pointed out that is behind a pin or swipe pattern.


No its not with the best phones.

There is the "owner information" that is displayed on the lock screen
though. Not a bad idea.


Medical ID is displayed there with the best phones.


What are you referring to by 'the best phones', in what way is not just
giving an example helpful?

I have a recent model (2014) android phone running Android Kitkat 4.4.4
there is no in built Medical Info display on the lock screen that I am
aware of. Not even really sure what you are talkign about


In Settings, go to 'Security' and 'Owner Info'. I think that's all they
meant. That goes on the lock screen but I don't think there's much space.

You could always put in some text telling people how to unlock it :-)



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On 27/02/2015 10:59, Gordon Henderson wrote:
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911 is not an emergency number in the UK. Never has been, never will
be....


Which doesn't mean it won't get you help:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...1-rescued.html

Considering that there are more than 20 different emergency numbers around
the world, mobile phones really ought to be able to redirect an emergency
call to the local services if the user dials the number they know from
home.


Plenty of countrys do that now with 911.

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Not really, anyone who finds that person in that situation should
be calling 911 first and doing that on their own phone usually....


I thought the Aussie emergency number was 000.


It is, but 911 works fine too.


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On 27/02/2015 14:56, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:36:11 +0000, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

Considering that there are more than 20 different emergency numbers
around the world, mobile phones really ought to be able to redirect an
emergency call to the local services if the user dials the number they
know from home.


Which is great, but... If you happen to be in Bristol, pick up the phone
and dial 911, then pause, there are ten thousand possible valid phone
numbers you could be dialling. Only one of them is the US emergency
number.

Bristol may not be the only city where that applies.


Do mobiles recognise local land line numbers without the dialling code?


Yep.

I've never tried dialling from my mobile without including the dialling
code.


I do it all the time.

When using my mobile abroad, I always include the country code as well,
even when dialling a number local to where I am.




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On 27/02/2015 14:56, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:36:11 +0000, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

Considering that there are more than 20 different emergency numbers
around the world, mobile phones really ought to be able to redirect an
emergency call to the local services if the user dials the number they
know from home.

Which is great, but... If you happen to be in Bristol, pick up the phone
and dial 911, then pause, there are ten thousand possible valid phone
numbers you could be dialling. Only one of them is the US emergency
number.

Bristol may not be the only city where that applies.


Do mobiles recognise local land line numbers without the dialling code?
I've never tried dialling from my mobile without including the dialling
code.


Be a bit dodgy wouldn't it? You'd have to know which tower was picking
up your signal and know therefore which area code it would assume. How
you going to guarantee that?


Works fine here, tho our area codes are very large indeed, like for the
whole state.

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On 27/02/2015 11:05, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:54:36 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

MedicAlert is perhaps the best service.


Bit technological, requires phone line/mobile service. Very patchy 2G
coverage around here...

Bits of paper just work and the information is just there without
having to call a number, give code, have information dictated and
written down by caller.

Small bit of paper can get lost though. I do like the lock screen
image idea.


You can't be sure that anything valuable won't be stolen while you are
lying helpless:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-forward.html


Good reason to have your medical condition tattooed on your forehead.

And it has to be on your forehead, they are unlikely to look at all your
tattoos to check if one of them says what your medical condition is.

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/Really? What if it said "Prednisolone"?

Prescribed for a myriad of conditions, some more life threatening than
others. No reason really NOT to put medical condition in as well. /q

Go on then I call.... Name some of these life threatening conditions
that'll get you before you get some pred in a day or so?

Jim K


That's not my point. My point is that you can't simply diagnose a
condition
from someone's medication. Prednisolone was just an example. There are
plenty of drugs administered forwidely differing conditions. Few would be
life-threatening in the short-term if medication was altered/stopped
briefly etc. but why should anyone have to guess when it would make far
more sense to include the illness.


I think what TMH's daughter meant, was that in the context of a paramedic
and an emergency situation they can probably tell from the medication the
important things that matter to them, rather than do a full diagnosis.

But no, assuming there is space then I can't see the reason for not
including the medical condtion(s)


In fact it makes a lot more sense to include the medical conditions
than to list all the not very important medications you take.

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On Friday, 27 February 2015 22:48:29 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Good reason to have your medical condition tattooed on your forehead.
And it has to be on your forehead, they are unlikely to look at all your
tattoos to check if one of them says what your medical condition is.


Terminal stupidity if you have anything tattooed on your forehead.

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On 26/02/2015 21:06, Dennis@home wrote:
On 26/02/2015 11:14, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Having Parkinsons I'm on regular medication, at the moment not
particularly time critical but as the brain rot progresses it will
become time critical.

So looking ahead I'm looking for some form of "Medical ID". This
can't really be an engraved thing as I want it to inform people that
I have Parkinsons and have details of my the meds and how often I
should take them.

I've had a quick look about the net and really only found bracelets
or necklace lockets/capsules, wallet cards or USB memory devices that
fit the rewriteable specification.

It's no good carrying the information if a medic can't read it, which
really rules out the USB things. That leaves a bracelet/necklace
locket/capsule or wallet cards.

What sort of medical ID does TMH's London Ambulance paramedic
daughter consider to be the one they will most likely find?


Your NHS number will allow them to download your brief medical records
from the spine. You could have that engraved on anything.

If you are diabetic it may be worth having that engraved too so someone
can force feed you a mars bar in an emergency.


The scary thing is the number of people who seem to the think that what
a diabetic needs in an emergency is insulin though...

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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:19:43 +0000, Martin Brown wrote:

Also worth having ICE numbers set up in your mobile phone.

As others have pointed out that is behind a pin or swipe pattern.


No its not with the best phones.

There is the "owner information" that is displayed on the lock screen
though. Not a bad idea.


Medical ID is displayed there with the best phones.


What are you referring to by 'the best phones',


Stuff like the iphones which have been updated to the latest iOS and
the best of the androids like the high end Samsungs and stuff like that.

in what way is not just giving an example helpful?


He said that he doesn't intend to change his phone to get that.

I have a recent model (2014) android phone running Android Kitkat 4.4.4
there is no in built Medical Info display on the lock screen that I am
aware of. Not even really sure what you are talkign about


That was a specific comment about iphones running iOS8.

No will ICE contacts appear on there AFAIK, though you can probably get
apps to do that.


Yes you can and that is what I meant.
Sure, I should have said that less cryptically.

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On 27/02/2015 01:21, Bill wrote:
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On 26/02/2015 22:16, wrote:
On Thursday, 26 February 2015 22:07:02 UTC, JimK wrote:
/Also worth having ICE numbers set up in your mobile phone./q
In Car Entertainment ?

In Case of Emergency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_case_of_emergency

Owain


Indeed. Not sure how that would work with a password-protected phone
though. When my phone goes to sleep, it can receive incoming calls or
make emergency calls - but that's all. Everything else needs a PIN to
be input to wake it up. I doubt whether the network operators would
regard ringing a number marked "ICE" as an emergency call.


My phone an iPhone 5, and most smart phones, will let you display an
opening screen before needing any password. I just made up an image with
my various contact details on it so that any one attempting to use it
sees them. You could add quite a bit of text to give medical info too.


Yes, my Android phone does that too. So I suppose that I could put
'ICE'-type contact information there. Anyone seeing it would need to use
a different phone to make contact though, 'cos they wouldn't be able to
make any calls on my phone without knowing the password.
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:55:13 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 26/02/2015 21:06, Dennis@home wrote:
On 26/02/2015 11:14, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Having Parkinsons I'm on regular medication, at the moment not
particularly time critical but as the brain rot progresses it will
become time critical.

So looking ahead I'm looking for some form of "Medical ID". This can't
really be an engraved thing as I want it to inform people that I have
Parkinsons and have details of my the meds and how often I should take
them.

I've had a quick look about the net and really only found bracelets or
necklace lockets/capsules, wallet cards or USB memory devices that fit
the rewriteable specification.

It's no good carrying the information if a medic can't read it, which
really rules out the USB things. That leaves a bracelet/necklace
locket/capsule or wallet cards.

What sort of medical ID does TMH's London Ambulance paramedic daughter
consider to be the one they will most likely find?


Your NHS number will allow them to download your brief medical records
from the spine. You could have that engraved on anything.

If you are diabetic it may be worth having that engraved too so someone
can force feed you a mars bar in an emergency.


The scary thing is the number of people who seem to the think that what
a diabetic needs in an emergency is insulin though...


For a hypo, it's usually Coca-Cola and/or a Jaffa cake...



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JimK wrote:
/Your newsreader is still broken. /q

I find it works perfectly adequately for this group.

Jim K


Define adequately. What if someone isn't using a threaded newsreader or
drops in on a new group? How are they supposed to know who you're quoting
as you don't do attributions (or do do them and get them wrong)?

What if you want to quote the last two contributors comments? Your "system"
seems to totally break down when it comes to correctly attributing quotes
to more than one respondent.

I didn't mind so much when I thought that you didn't know that your system
was crap. Now I know that you do know and just don't give a f*ck.

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