In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
The range extender engines runs at the most economic "sweet spot". A
genny engines is lighter.

That is the same sort of principle as the Pious.

NOT AT ALL. The range extender is driven by electric motors only.

Fuch moi. He's just invented perpetual motion.

The genny
is mechanically disconnected from the driving wheels.

As is your brain.

--
*I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe*

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I don't know where you've been, but lots of conventional IC engined
cars now use their alternator to store energy when slowing.

No they dont.

Sorry - to provide stored energy.

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*El nino made me do it

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
BMW put a clutch in the alternator or something trivial, so that the
alternator only charges on the engine over-run claiming it was hybrid.
Yep they did

So give a link to an ad where they claim to be a hybrid. But of course you
can't. So just lie instead.

--
*Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies *

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Indeed. The Pious was made for town use - and is useless on the open
road.

Senile one, it does 100mph and can accelerate with the rest of them. You
are a fool.

But I've actually driven one. Up Shap on the M6. 50 mph flat out with
trucks hooting as they passed.

--
*Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article
,
Steve Firth wrote:
Stand up for themselves? You crap on their own. A scab is a scab and
I hope they pay all their lives.

There you go Mr Plowman. That's an example of the sort of brainless ****
who joins a union. Mean, vicious, petty minded and intellectually
subnormal.

Sounds rather like Clarkson to me. Would you class him as a union
supporter?

But dribble can't have been in a union since that means first having a job
- and who would employ him?

--
*Toilet stolen from police station. Cops have nothing to go on.

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article
,
Steve Firth wrote:
Trying to continue being that bread winner didn't do them much good, now,
did it - given the mines were all closed? They hoped in vain that toadying
up to Thatcher would cause her to look after them as individuals. Which of
course didn't happen. I wonder if they'd have done the same again with the
benefit of hindsight.

Bricks through your window on a daily basis tend to cause even strong
independent individuals to toe the line.

Probably thrown by Mail reporters to make a good story.

You may want to get your head out of the sand and smell the coffee from
time to time.

Of course there is appalling behaviour by union members. And appalling
behaviour by non union members too. And management. And ordained priests
who fiddle with little boys.

One swallow does not a summer make, as they say.

I have lots and lots of experience of unions and never once saw any
intimidation. Which is why I base my opinion that it was extremely rare -
despite what the press wanted you to believe - and you obviously fell for
that hook line and sinker.

As regards those not wanting to join a union where that union was well
represented in a workforce, it was most usually a case of free loading.
They knew they would get any benefits won by the union without having to
pay for it. Only a very very few had any genuine reasons for not wanting
to join. And those were treated with respect by the union members, again
in my experience.

--
*He's not dead - he's electroencephalographically challenged

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

I also recall one of the car comics doing a cost-to-coast US trip in a
Pious. The American chase car did better mpg.

It wasn't designed to chase across the USA.

The chase car wasn't designed to chase?

Senile once again...for the hard of thinking....The Prius wasn't designed to
chase across the USA.

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
I also recall one of the car comics doing a cost-to-coast US trip in a
Pious. The American chase car did better mpg.

I think that people don't have much appreciation just how much "energy"
there is in a gallon of petrol. And just how much energy it takes to
shove a motor car of any decent size around.....

The electric car lobby just don't accept they are like any other vehicle -
the harder it is driven, the more energy it uses. Or the heavier it is, or
the more load it carries, etc etc.

If you claimed a diesel or petrol car had the same range at 50 mph and 100
mph you'd be known to be deranged. But the electric car makers do just
this with impunity. And those with no brain cells believe them.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
The range extender engines runs at the most economic "sweet spot". A
genny engines is lighter.

That is the same sort of principle as the Pious.

NOT AT ALL. The range extender is driven by electric motors only.

Fuch moi.

A Senile plantpot!

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
BMW put a clutch in the alternator or something trivial, so that the
alternator only charges on the engine over-run claiming it was hybrid.
Yep they did

So give a link to an ad where they claim to be a hybrid. But of course you
can't. So just lie instead.

You sucked it all in.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Indeed. The Pious was made for town use - and is useless on the open
road.

Senile one, it does 100mph and can accelerate with the rest of them. You
are a fool.

But I've actually driven one.

You are lying!

tony sayer wrote:
In article -
september.org, Steve Firth scribeth thus
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
[snip]

Normal road use and testing doesn't put anywhere near as much
stress on cars as TG do,

Not much point in advertising a sports car which has to be treated gently.

However, it's worth remembering the original Autocar road test of the
Prius. Over 600 miles of testing on all sorts of normal roads, its average
mpg was in the low 20s. Toyota weren't happy.

Also the TopGear caning of a Prius around their test track. A BMW 320d was
faster, gave better mpg and a much longer range than the Pious.

I also recall one of the car comics doing a cost-to-coast US trip in a
Pious. The American chase car did better mpg.

I think that people don't have much appreciation just how much "energy"
there is in a gallon of petrol. And just how much energy it takes to
shove a motor car of any decent size around.....

Or how much energy it takes to lug around the extra mass of a
hybrid/electric battery pack.

I've been driving a Fiat 500 "Eco multi-air" this week. It has been
astonishingly economical and surprisingly good at motorway cruising. Better
on the basis of cost and mpg than a Pious.

However a car designed and tuned to get maximum mpg in city driving is a
miserable experience. It stops the engine at every pause in driving, and it
frantically flashes the display to encourage a shift up at very low rpm
giving no ability to accelerate in the higher gear. If you obey the
direction it will be making a noise like a tractor on the point of
stalling. I've found ignoring it to be the best option.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
[snip]

I suspect you think that Harold Macmillan said it about Thatcher. You are
wrong. Macmillan did not say it at all,

Fool, he DID!!!!! He said it on breakfast TV at the time. I saw it.

You're a liar. You have cut Macmillans actual words from my reply. You
did not mark the edit that you made, making your lie deliberate and calculated.
[unmarked deletion reinstated]

Macmillan said it!!!!!! You fool.

Liar

Macmillan said it!!!!!! You fool.

Liar.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...

I also recall one of the car comics doing a cost-to-coast US trip in a
Pious. The American chase car did better mpg.

It wasn't designed to chase across the USA. Mine does 65mpg. The Mk 3
does 75mpg and is Smoooooooooooth and goes Zooooooooooom

Liar.

You are jealous. Mine does 65mpg. The Mk 3 does 75mpg and is
Smoooooooooooth and goes Zooooooooooom

Liar.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:33:55 +0000 Tim Watts wrote :

Brown failed to regulate the banks and Blair dissappeared up his own arse
with his desire to become an "international statesman" (ie get involved
in everyone's wars).

If they had proposed such regulation, every bank chief would have shouted
as to how this would reduce their profits by £x bn and governments should
stay out of things they didn't understand and leave them to the experts.
And the city, most of the press and the Conservative party would have been
on the side of the banks.

A lot of the blame goes to city analysts who get paid mega money to
research companies and report on them. Wasn't it the case that most of them
were offering 'buy' recommendations as banks crashed? If they had had quiet
words with the management and said "carry on like this and we'll change our
recommendation to 'sell'" then things might have turned out differently.
And if mega money analysts genuinely couldn't see any problems with the way
business was being conducted, what hope would regulators have had?

--
Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on',
Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com

In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I also recall one of the car comics doing a cost-to-coast US trip in a
Pious. The American chase car did better mpg.

It wasn't designed to chase across the USA.

The chase car wasn't designed to chase?

Senile once again...for the hard of thinking....The Prius wasn't
designed to chase across the USA.

Nor did it, being the lead car. The one behind does the chasing. What *is*
your first language? Apart from gibberish?

--
*How do you tell when you run out of invisible ink? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Of course there is appalling behaviour by union members. And appalling
behaviour by non union members too. And management. And ordained priests
who fiddle with little boys.


Just as schools, and the priesthood are natural places for paedophiles
to gravitate, unions attract the vicious means spirited jealous losers
like **** attracts flies.

Think Tony Robinson.
,

"Tony Bryer" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:33:55 +0000 Tim Watts wrote :

Brown failed to regulate the banks

If they had proposed such regulation, every bank chief would have shouted
as to how this would reduce their profits by £x bn and governments should
stay out of things they didn't understand and leave them to the experts.
And the city, most of the press and the Conservative party would have been
on the side of the banks.

The bubble bust because land was not taxed and money was being poured into
land, not economic growth activities - in ALL western countries. Land
Valuation Tax with no Income Tax, would solve that for ever. Land should not
be used and viewed like Capital as it is now. It is NOT Capital.

The free-market was twisted and rigged 100 years ago when they moved
classical economics to neo-classical for vested-interest reasons.

Classical economics is
LAND - [immovable and fixed] -? the result is called economic rent
CAPITAL - [all man made things] - the result is profit and interest.
LABOUR - the result is wages.

100 year ago neo-classical economics merged LAND and CAPITAL. This has
created a climate of BOOM and CRASH, which negated spiralling technological
advances. Tax LAND "values" and a stable market emerges as speculation is
curbed, then we see the true benefits of technological advances. Then
ensure LABOUR is not rigged and no monopolies occur in LAND, CAPITAL and
LABOUR.

A relaxed planning system is needed - only 7.7% of the land in the UK is
settled, the countryside is empty - would stop land values rising quickly
and make land cheaper, hence preventing people form having large mortgages -
in the grips of the banks.

1. Introduce Land Valuation Taxation
2. The land market is rigged. Relax the planning system which rigs it.

Brown did his job properly inside the current flawed system. He was the
greatest at touch control - by the week. He said no booms and busts and he
was right - THERE WAS NONE. The CC was a world-wide event, which Brown did
not create. He did put together the world rescue plan, world acclaim. Brown
monitored all, controlling inflation, money supply, interest rates, etc -
almost by the week. He upturned the Victorian Treasury putting them into a
new building, totally changing the system and encouraging communication and
new ideas. He got rid of the dead wood getting in young bright men - Ed
Balls was one of them. The rest did not want to get into politics.

Other chancellors may not be as good and allow minor booms and busts to
occur. Anyone who says differently knows sweet FA about basic economics and
is devoid of facts over the past 13 years.

Even so, with the best touch control in the world the system will fail. It
is inherently flawed. There will be crashes. It need not be flawed. The
Free-Market has to be unrigged. LAND and its resources has to be taken out
of the hands of speculators.

LAND is rigged by the planning system and monopolised in ownership. 0.66% of
the population own 70% of the land. A communities economic growth soaks
into the land and crystallises as land values. The value in the land is
theirs, not the occupier of the land. This needs to be reclaimed.

LABOUR is rigged by immigration and other means. The CBI always whine that
they want low labour costs. They can't run a business properly under a true
free-market being used to an endless supply of cheap labour. They should be
ignored. If they can't hack it in the free-market then they should sink.

Misguided Tory voters (is there is properly guided one? Petty snobbery and
prejudice is the prime motivation for most in that sycophantic bunch)
prattle on about the free-market, but haven't a clue about it or know it is
rigged.

Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Nonsense. Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other side very well.

Yet another example to prove you can't even drive.

Trucks on a motorway

Once again senile one. "Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other
side very well."

They don't. The engine on a loaded truck shuts down while you're going
downhill, keeping the speed constant, and labours while you're going up,
trying and failing to do the same.

This has been the cause of many, many accidents on the M1 near junction
9 in the past, when a heavy truck sped up somewhat going down the hill,
and slowed down drastically while going up the other side, while a
lighter truck following it sped up slightly less going down, and didn't
slow down at all going up. At the time I was commuting along that road,
it happened at least twice a week, normally at about five in the morning
to Irish drivers who'd been driving all night from Stranraer. Normally,
the following driver had to be cut out of his cab and taken to hospital,
which, luckily, was by junction 11, within a five minute drive.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

Of course there is appalling behaviour by union members. And appalling
behaviour by non union members too. And management. And ordained priests
who fiddle with little boys.

Just as schools, and the priesthood are natural places for paedophiles to
gravitate, unions attract the vicious means spirited jealous losers like
**** attracts flies.

This one is barking mad!

"John Williamson" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Nonsense. Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other side very well.

Yet another example to prove you can't even drive.

Trucks on a motorway

Once again senile one. "Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other
side very well."

They don't.

They do. A freewheeling heavy truck goes right up the other side.

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

I think that people don't have much appreciation just how much "energy"
there is in a gallon of petrol. And just how much energy it takes to
shove a motor car of any decent size around.....

A largish car doing 70mph only uses about 20-30% of the power of the engine.
The surplus power is for acceleration. Electric drive and kinetic brake
recovery using supercaps and a decent battery set can mean engines are much
smaller. Range extenders means the engines can be built light, small and
optimised to run at its sweet revving spot. All win, win.

The way it is now going.

Zoooooooooooooooooooooooom

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
Well not me NuLabore stole a lot from my pension fund! I could have
retired with 50% more pension if the idiots had not voted for NuLabore.

My company pension is exactly as it was promised when I first subscribed
to it. So a well managed fund wasn't effected by that tax.

Your pension fund wasn't as good as mine.
Mine had three different ways of working out your pension.
The worst was the final salary.
The others being the fund + credited interest and the fund + growth.
Up until NuLabore stole a lot of the fund the fund + growth returned more
than the final salary.
You got to chose whichever was best when you retired.

Now it is just final salary based which is less.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

"John Williamson" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Nonsense. Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other side very
well.

Yet another example to prove you can't even drive.

Trucks on a motorway

Once again senile one. "Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other
side very well."

They don't.

They do. A freewheeling heavy truck goes right up the other side.

Never in my thirty-odd years of experience in driving large vehicles. If
you knock one out of gear ad coast down, you *might* get almost a
quarter of the way up a similar hill on the other side of the valley.

Even a Hot Wheels toy only makes it about halfway up the slope.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
Just give it a few years of Tory cuts to find out what a basket case
really is. They've made a start already. Closing a local unit used for
treatment of those with addiction problems which isn't being replaced.

And that is without any cuts in NHS spending,

The cuts have already started. Even more so in those parts jointly funded
by the NHS and a local authority, like some forms of care. And they will
inevitably get much much worse.

There are no cuts in NHS spending, the NHS may well have decided to spend it
in different ways.
That is not cuts in NHS spending.

John Williamson wrote:
Doctor Drivel wrote:

"John Williamson" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Nonsense. Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other side very
well.

Yet another example to prove you can't even drive.

Trucks on a motorway

Once again senile one. "Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the
other side very well."

They don't.

They do. A freewheeling heavy truck goes right up the other side.

Never in my thirty-odd years of experience in driving large vehicles. If
you knock one out of gear ad coast down, you *might* get almost a
quarter of the way up a similar hill on the other side of the valley.

Even a Hot Wheels toy only makes it about halfway up the slope.

Drivel believes in frictionless vehicles and no wind resistance.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

The news has just reported shares dropping 15% today. All the fault of
labour, obviously.

If Nulabore are bribing false reports then yes it is.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
And why not? In broadcast, new technology often means more
complication. So greater skills needed to operate it.


Complete rubbish, they seldom make stuff more complicated, just
different.

Pray tell of your experience in broadcasting?

Do tell us of your experience in unions that you keep using to tell others
they are wrong when they quote instances of bad union behaviour?

Anyway as I said they are not difficult, just different, its the users that
are the problem, they stop being able to learn.

"Tony Bryer" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 00:04:09 +0000 (GMT) Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
Well not me NuLabore stole a lot from my pension fund! I could have
retired with 50% more pension if the idiots had not voted for NuLabore.

My company pension is exactly as it was promised when I first subscribed
to it. So a well managed fund wasn't effected by that tax.

If was OK in good times to take a pension contribution holiday, why wasn't
it appropriate to pay 5% more (or whatever) to compensate for the tax
change? Stupid question, I know.

You do understand that the pension holidays were required by the revenue.
The funds were deemed to be overfunded and the revenue required action to
stop them being overfunded.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
Steve Firth wrote:
If, as is claimed, there was massive successful intimidation, surely
those wimps who couldn't stand up for themselves would simply stay
away from the meeting?

Those who did stand up for themselves in King Arthur's. Coal War
continue to suffer abuse and ostracism to this day. Calling those who
didn't want to see their families suffering because the bread winner
was "a scab" wimps shows a massive lack of understanding on your
part or a massive dose of cynicism if you were actually aware of how
dissenters within the unions are treated.

Trying to continue being that bread winner didn't do them much good,
now, did it - given the mines were all closed? They hoped in vain
that toadying up to Thatcher would cause her to look after them as
individuals. Which of course didn't happen. I wonder if they'd have
done the same again with the benefit of hindsight.

You mean a national ballot?

Bricks through your window on a daily basis tend to cause even strong
independent individuals to toe the line.

Probably thrown by Mail reporters to make a good story.

Probably not.

--
Adam

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...

Those who did stand up for themselves in King Arthur's. Coal War
continue to suffer abuse and ostracism to this day.

Stand up for themselves? You crap on their own. A scab is a scab
and I hope they pay all their lives.

Pillock.

--
Adam

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:37:21 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
The range extender engines runs at the most economic "sweet spot". A
genny engines is lighter.

That is the same sort of principle as the Pious.

NOT AT ALL. The range extender is driven by electric motors only.

Fuch moi. He's just invented perpetual motion.

But only when driving downhill.

In article om,
dennis@home wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
Well not me NuLabore stole a lot from my pension fund! I could have
retired with 50% more pension if the idiots had not voted for NuLabore.

My company pension is exactly as it was promised when I first
subscribed to it. So a well managed fund wasn't effected by that tax.

Your pension fund wasn't as good as mine. Mine had three different ways
of working out your pension. The worst was the final salary. The others
being the fund + credited interest and the fund + growth. Up until
NuLabore stole a lot of the fund the fund + growth returned more than
the final salary. You got to chose whichever was best when you retired.

Why do you think a pension fund - out of all types of savings - should be
immune from taxation?

Now it is just final salary based which is less.

Perhaps you should have worked harder.

--
*The colder the X-ray table, the more of your body is required on it *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:29:46 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Senile once again...for the hard of thinking....The Prius wasn't
designed to chase across the USA.

Nor did it, being the lead car. The one behind does the chasing. What
*is* your first language? Apart from gibberish?

Sinclair BASIC, I think.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Drivel believes in frictionless vehicles and no wind resistance.

I'll bet he thinks that supercapacitors hold their charge for ever, too,
and that you get everything you put into a battery back out.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Dec 30, 9:10 pm, Andy Champ wrote:
On 30/12/2011 07:58, harry wrote:

On Dec 29, 4:48 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

The weight of the on board capacitors would in itself be an energy
store (kinetic energy).

And how do they get up to speed - magic pixie beans?

Stupid boy. You don't get anything for nothing.
But storing kinetic energy is far more efficient than charging/
discharging batteries.

Kinetic energy stored as vehicle momentum is of no use for accelerating
the vehicle. At the time you need it it isn't there.

It's also of no use for climbing hills - the extra weight exactly
cancels out the extra KE.

In fact I can't think of a use for extra mass at all. Except in a road
roller.

Andy

But it can be used for charging batteries. Which is exactly what
happens in electric cars. In ICE cars, it is lost.
Bad news during cornering though.

Extra mass in vehicles is never a good idea.
You need the lowest mass that will provide a safe environment for the
passengers and that is it.

Extra mass doesn't help when going up and down hills unless you think doing
1 mph on the level and rolling down a hill up to 70(or whatever the speed
limit is) and then slowing down to 1 mph as you go up the other side is
actually useful. Driving at the speed limit means there is nowhere to store
any extra kinetic energy without speeding up which is probably both illegal
and dangerous.

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...

You may want to get your head out of the sand and smell the coffee from
time to time.

Dave has a very limited experience in life and has a closed mind to go with
it, it probably explains why he thinks new stuff is more difficult too.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Indeed. The Pious was made for town use - and is useless on the open
road.

Senile one, it does 100mph and can accelerate with the rest of them. You
are a fool.

But I've actually driven one. Up Shap on the M6. 50 mph flat out with
trucks hooting as they passed.

They can certainly do better than that, I have been overtaken by them doing
80+.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
John Williamson wrote:
Doctor Drivel wrote:

"John Williamson" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Nonsense. Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other side very
well.

Yet another example to prove you can't even drive.

Trucks on a motorway

Once again senile one. "Heavy trucks roll down hills and up the other
side very well."

They don't.

They do. A freewheeling heavy truck goes right up the other side.

Never in my thirty-odd years of experience in driving large vehicles. If
you knock one out of gear ad coast down, you *might* get almost a quarter
of the way up a similar hill on the other side of the valley.

Even a Hot Wheels toy only makes it about halfway up the slope.

Drivel believes in frictionless vehicles and no wind resistance.

This man is a barmcake.

In article , Doctor Drivel
?@?.? scribeth thus

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

I think that people don't have much appreciation just how much "energy"
there is in a gallon of petrol. And just how much energy it takes to
shove a motor car of any decent size around.....

A largish car doing 70mph only uses about 20-30% of the power of the engine.
The surplus power is for acceleration.

Yes indeed.. How much power?..

Electric drive and kinetic brake
recovery using supercaps and a decent battery set can mean engines are much
smaller.

More weight to lug around and accelerate ..

Range extenders means the engines can be built light, small and
optimised to run at its sweet revving spot. All win, win.

Range extenders, do they run on Unobtainium?..


The way it is now going.

Zoooooooooooooooooooooooom

In the Dr's world of course...


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Tony Sayer