Hi All,

I'm after a small selection of JST-SM connectors. They look like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yhkn2hz

.... often found as interconnects inside all sorts of low power
electrical kit.

Wire to wire, locking, polarised, small and in various number of
'ways' (I would be interested in 2 6 ways).

They also come in black and white (solid colours, not striped). ;-)

So, I need a few of each size for myself (electric bike in this
instance and that already uses them) and it looks like Farnell do
some:

http://tinyurl.com/yjxvf5r

So, before I create an account and order some I think I remember
someone saying they sometimes do 'specials' on the postage (assuming
order value below that for free postage) and / or is there anyone else
who stocks these things who may be better for small orders please?

On similar lines I need a couple of meters of (min) 5 core, thin
(~1-3A?) stranded, (ideally) black sheathed cable (it needs to run
through the eyelets of a cycle downtube so be about the size of a std
brake cable outer). It could come from a supplier in a cut length or
be a cheap made-up lead where I could cut the ends off etc (a USB
cable or somesuch)?

Ideas please?

Cheers, T i m (Nth London)

In article ,
T i m wrote:
On similar lines I need a couple of meters of (min) 5 core, thin
(~1-3A?) stranded, (ideally) black sheathed cable (it needs to run
through the eyelets of a cycle downtube so be about the size of a std
brake cable outer). It could come from a supplier in a cut length or
be a cheap made-up lead where I could cut the ends off etc (a USB
cable or somesuch)?

Alarm cable - comes in 4, 6, 8 cores etc and cheap because it's common.
It's rather like telephone cable but stranded rather than solid core.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ble/index.html

You might have to search to find it in black, though.

If you only want a couple of metres of white, send me a SAE and I'll give
you some.

--
*Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
T i m wrote:
I'm after a small selection of JST-SM connectors. They look like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yhkn2hz

... often found as interconnects inside all sorts of low power
electrical kit.

Just a point, but these sort of connectors are best crimped, and the tool
needed to do this usually ain't cheap.

--
*Time is fun when you're having flies... Kermit

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:09:28 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
On similar lines I need a couple of meters of (min) 5 core, thin
(~1-3A?) stranded, (ideally) black sheathed cable (it needs to run
through the eyelets of a cycle downtube so be about the size of a std
brake cable outer). It could come from a supplier in a cut length or
be a cheap made-up lead where I could cut the ends off etc (a USB
cable or somesuch)?

Alarm cable - comes in 4, 6, 8 cores etc and cheap because it's common.
It's rather like telephone cable but stranded rather than solid core.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ble/index.html

You might have to search to find it in black, though.

Cheers.

If you only want a couple of metres of white, send me a SAE and I'll give
you some.

You are kind (thanks again).

I have just stumbled on a black Cat5 patch cable. I might nip and end
off and confirm that it is stranded and if so it should do, at least
to get us going for now.

Cheers, T i m

p.s. Was it you who mentioned the Farnell happy hour (or whatever it
was) when they did free postage or no minimum order etc?

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:10:53 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
I'm after a small selection of JST-SM connectors. They look like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yhkn2hz

... often found as interconnects inside all sorts of low power
electrical kit.

Just a point, but these sort of connectors are best crimped, and the tool
needed to do this usually ain't cheap.

So I saw, £300+ or summat! For this purpose I think I should be ok
with a pliers crimp to nip the stuff in place then a quick solder. The
worst that could happen is the power assist motor stops assisting. ;-)

I've been fitting 'crimp' connectors that way for years and not one of
them has failed yet touch wood. ;-)

The only ones I haven't tried to use without the proper tools are
those that shrink rather than grip .. like the sleeves on co-ax
connectors ... and RJ11/45 plugs etc.

Cheers, T i m

In article ,
T i m wrote:
p.s. Was it you who mentioned the Farnell happy hour (or whatever it
was) when they did free postage or no minimum order etc?

All these places are doing it at some time. The recession bites...

--
*One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:19:23 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
p.s. Was it you who mentioned the Farnell happy hour (or whatever it
was) when they did free postage or no minimum order etc?

All these places are doing it at some time. The recession bites...

So it's not a set / regular time then (and sorta my question)?

It looks like £5.95 pnp on top of my £10 order (plus VAT) then. ;-(

Oh well ..

Cheers, T i m

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:11:24 +0000, T i m wrote:

On similar lines I need a couple of meters of (min) 5 core, thin
(~1-3A?) stranded, (ideally) black sheathed cable (it needs to run
through the eyelets of a cycle downtube so be about the size of a std
brake cable outer).

I've got a couple of drums of (I think) 6 core stranded you are
welcome to a length of that if you like. I'll check tomorrow what the
exact spec is.

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:57:49 +0000, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:11:24 +0000, T i m wrote:

On similar lines I need a couple of meters of (min) 5 core, thin
(~1-3A?) stranded, (ideally) black sheathed cable (it needs to run
through the eyelets of a cycle downtube so be about the size of a std
brake cable outer).

I've got a couple of drums of (I think) 6 core stranded you are
welcome to a length of that if you like. I'll check tomorrow what the
exact spec is.

Cheers Peter.

I've just measured the guides on the down tube and it looks like the
ID is ~6mm.

So 1.5m in black would be ideal (and that allows a bit of slack). ;-)

Cheers,

T i m

In message , T i m
writes
Hi All,

I'm after a small selection of JST-SM connectors. They look like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yhkn2hz

... often found as interconnects inside all sorts of low power
electrical kit.

Wire to wire, locking, polarised, small and in various number of
'ways' (I would be interested in 2 6 ways).

They also come in black and white (solid colours, not striped). ;-)

So, I need a few of each size for myself (electric bike in this
instance and that already uses them) and it looks like Farnell do
some:

http://tinyurl.com/yjxvf5r

So, before I create an account

I have an account

and order some I think I remember
someone saying they sometimes do 'specials' on the postage (assuming
order value below that for free postage) and / or is there anyone else
who stocks these things who may be better for small orders please?

On similar lines I need a couple of meters of (min) 5 core, thin
(~1-3A?) stranded, (ideally) black sheathed cable (it needs to run
through the eyelets of a cycle downtube so be about the size of a std
brake cable outer). It could come from a supplier in a cut length or
be a cheap made-up lead where I could cut the ends off etc (a USB
cable or somesuch)?

Ideas please?

Cheers, T i m (Nth London)


--
geoff

On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:07:37 +0000, geoff wrote:

In message , T i m
writes
Hi All,

I'm after a small selection of JST-SM connectors. They look like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yhkn2hz

... often found as interconnects inside all sorts of low power
electrical kit.

Wire to wire, locking, polarised, small and in various number of
'ways' (I would be interested in 2 6 ways).

They also come in black and white (solid colours, not striped). ;-)

So, I need a few of each size for myself (electric bike in this
instance and that already uses them) and it looks like Farnell do
some:

http://tinyurl.com/yjxvf5r

So, before I create an account

I have an account

Hmmm, ;-)

Do account holders generally pay the same for the actual items do you
know?

There has been a slight update in that someone else might be
interested in getting some connectors so we could end up to the free
postage threshold anyway.

With all your connections in your game Geoff, any other places likely
to stock such things (in black especially)?

Thanks and I may be back. ;-)

T i m

In message , T i m
writes
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:07:37 +0000, geoff wrote:

In message , T i m
writes
Hi All,

I'm after a small selection of JST-SM connectors. They look like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yhkn2hz

... often found as interconnects inside all sorts of low power
electrical kit.

Wire to wire, locking, polarised, small and in various number of
'ways' (I would be interested in 2 6 ways).

They also come in black and white (solid colours, not striped). ;-)

So, I need a few of each size for myself (electric bike in this
instance and that already uses them) and it looks like Farnell do
some:

http://tinyurl.com/yjxvf5r

So, before I create an account

I have an account

Hmmm, ;-)

Do account holders generally pay the same for the actual items do you
know?

Yes AFAIK, I certainly pay catalogue prices


There has been a slight update in that someone else might be
interested in getting some connectors so we could end up to the free
postage threshold anyway.

With all your connections in your game Geoff, any other places likely
to stock such things (in black especially)?

I have bought these connectors in the past and I bought them from
Farnell - time was more precious than a couple of quid potentially saved
at the time


Thanks and I may be back. ;-)

T i m

--
geoff

In article ,
T i m wrote:
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:19:23 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
p.s. Was it you who mentioned the Farnell happy hour (or whatever it
was) when they did free postage or no minimum order etc?

All these places are doing it at some time. The recession bites...

So it's not a set / regular time then (and sorta my question)?

It looks like £5.95 pnp on top of my £10 order (plus VAT) then. ;-(

Oh well ..

If you've registered with them, or RS, CPC, Rapid, etc, as you usually
have to to buy from them and not stopped them sending you emails of
offers, they'll tell you when a post free offer comes up. CPC is worth
getting those daily emails from if you don't mind that sort of thing.

Cheers, T i m

--
*Preserve wildlife - Go pickle a squirrel*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
T i m wrote:
Do account holders generally pay the same for the actual items do you
know?

Any discount is usually on volume of business. Or buying a big quantity of
one item.

There has been a slight update in that someone else might be
interested in getting some connectors so we could end up to the free
postage threshold anyway.

With all your connections in your game Geoff, any other places likely
to stock such things (in black especially)?

You'd probably get it in black easily - provided you pay for a full drum.
Farnell, etc, don't usually sell cut lengths. Maplin may have what you
want by the metre.

--
*Starfishes have no brains *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:40:49 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
p.s. Was it you who mentioned the Farnell happy hour (or whatever it
was) when they did free postage or no minimum order etc?

All these places are doing it at some time. The recession bites...

I did a Farnell order quite recently; no min order and no shipping charge
for about 15 quid worth of parts.

If you've registered with them, or RS, CPC, Rapid, etc, as you usually
have to to buy from them and not stopped them sending you emails of
offers, they'll tell you when a post free offer comes up. CPC is worth
getting those daily emails from if you don't mind that sort of thing.

CPC seem to be doing the 'free shipping on orders over £20' every weekend
now.
--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

In message , Bob Eager
writes
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:40:49 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
p.s. Was it you who mentioned the Farnell happy hour (or whatever it
was) when they did free postage or no minimum order etc?

All these places are doing it at some time. The recession bites...

I did a Farnell order quite recently; no min order and no shipping charge
for about 15 quid worth of parts.

If you've registered with them, or RS, CPC, Rapid, etc, as you usually
have to to buy from them and not stopped them sending you emails of
offers, they'll tell you when a post free offer comes up. CPC is worth
getting those daily emails from if you don't mind that sort of thing.

CPC seem to be doing the 'free shipping on orders over £20' every weekend
now.


Scraped in there then - yesterdays order was just shy of £400, and not a
single xmas item ordered either


--
geoff

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:40:49 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:


So it's not a set / regular time then (and sorta my question)?

It looks like £5.95 pnp on top of my £10 order (plus VAT) then. ;-(

Oh well ..

If you've registered with them, or RS, CPC, Rapid, etc, as you usually
have to to buy from them and not stopped them sending you emails of
offers, they'll tell you when a post free offer comes up. CPC is worth
getting those daily emails from if you don't mind that sort of thing.

No, ok as long as there aren't too frequent etc. I get the Aldi / Lidl
ones.

Cheers, T i m

On 5 Dec 2009 00:03:20 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:40:49 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
p.s. Was it you who mentioned the Farnell happy hour (or whatever it
was) when they did free postage or no minimum order etc?

All these places are doing it at some time. The recession bites...

I did a Farnell order quite recently; no min order and no shipping charge
for about 15 quid worth of parts.

Ok, we might be ok then. It's not a real biggy but it's just a bit
annoying spending more on pnp then product. ;-(


If you've registered with them, or RS, CPC, Rapid, etc, as you usually
have to to buy from them and not stopped them sending you emails of
offers, they'll tell you when a post free offer comes up. CPC is worth
getting those daily emails from if you don't mind that sort of thing.

CPC seem to be doing the 'free shipping on orders over £20' every weekend
now.

I don't think CPC did what I was after but I'll look again (still good
to know about the weekend thing and maybe what I was thinking was a
Farnell deal. I thought I'd seen something somewhere! g).

Cheers, T i m

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:44:01 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
Do account holders generally pay the same for the actual items do you
know?

Any discount is usually on volume of business. Or buying a big quantity of
one item.

Ok.

There has been a slight update in that someone else might be
interested in getting some connectors so we could end up to the free
postage threshold anyway.

With all your connections in your game Geoff, any other places likely
to stock such things (in black especially)?

You'd probably get it in black easily - provided you pay for a full drum.
Farnell, etc, don't usually sell cut lengths. Maplin may have what you
want by the metre.

Sorry Dave, talking about the connectors here (Farnell only do them in
white and the ones on the bike are black).

Good point about Maplin for the cable though (the last cable I bought
from there was that very heavy duty flex the car boys use for ICE
power. I use a bit as an extension lead for an electric outboard!).
;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:17:52 +0000, T i m wrote:

I don't think CPC did what I was after but I'll look again (still good
to know about the weekend thing and maybe what I was thinking was a
Farnell deal. I thought I'd seen something somewhere! g).

With CPC, follow the instructions on the home page (put WEBFREE in the
special instructions box). Easy to forget...!

--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

On 5 Dec 2009 01:46:17 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:17:52 +0000, T i m wrote:

I don't think CPC did what I was after but I'll look again (still good
to know about the weekend thing and maybe what I was thinking was a
Farnell deal. I thought I'd seen something somewhere! g).

With CPC, follow the instructions on the home page (put WEBFREE in the
special instructions box). Easy to forget...!

Cheers, Bob. ;-)

T i m

Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:17:52 +0000, T i m wrote:

I don't think CPC did what I was after but I'll look again (still good
to know about the weekend thing and maybe what I was thinking was a
Farnell deal. I thought I'd seen something somewhere! g).

With CPC, follow the instructions on the home page (put WEBFREE in the
special instructions box). Easy to forget...!


Always try WEBFREE - you never know when it might work.

At Farnell, established credit account customers get free
shipping/handling on every order, no matter how small. With a history of
occasional orders in the £300-400 range, discounts up to 10% on those
larger orders are available by phoning your account representative - but
you do have to ask, every time.

All that *and* credit until the 20th of the following month, so a
Farnell credit account is worth angling for.

Like CPC, Farnell are forever offering discount promotions on odd
pretexts like Hallowe'en, end of month or even TGIF, so those too are
worth looking out for. However, I don't recall ever seeing them offer a
shipping/handing discount because many Farnell customers are already not
paying those charges.

BTW, although CPC and Farnell are part of the same group, they operate
as separate businesses in different (although overlapping) areas of the
market. With CPC now going aggressively after the consumer market, I
hope this will encourage Farnell to stick to the professional market and
stop the special offers of RC helicopters and cuddly toys.

(One exception to being separate businesses: both websites use the same
login server, so you can't register with the same login name at both
sites.)



--
Ian White

In article ,
T i m wrote:
If you've registered with them, or RS, CPC, Rapid, etc, as you usually
have to to buy from them and not stopped them sending you emails of
offers, they'll tell you when a post free offer comes up. CPC is worth
getting those daily emails from if you don't mind that sort of thing.

No, ok as long as there aren't too frequent etc. I get the Aldi / Lidl
ones.

The CPC ones are daily specials. ;-)

--
*I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In message , geoff
wrote


Scraped in there then - yesterdays order was just shy of £400, and not
a single xmas item ordered either




Anything over £50(ish) is free P&P with CPC. I believe that Farnell are
free P&P as long as you place the order via the web (not phone) and you
pay by card at the time of ordering.
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:50:12 +0000, Alan wrote:

Anything over £50(ish) is free P&P with CPC. I believe that Farnell are
free P&P as long as you place the order via the web (not phone) and you
pay by card at the time of ordering.

That's my experience, although I think the threshold is £45 for CPC (or
£20 on the wekend WEBFREE stuff).

CPC don't guarantee next-day for that, but it practically always is.

--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

In article ,
Ian White writes:

At Farnell, established credit account customers get free
shipping/handling on every order, no matter how small. With a history of
occasional orders in the £300-400 range, discounts up to 10% on those
larger orders are available by phoning your account representative - but
you do have to ask, every time.

All that *and* credit until the 20th of the following month, so a
Farnell credit account is worth angling for.

Like CPC, Farnell are forever offering discount promotions on odd
pretexts like Hallowe'en, end of month or even TGIF, so those too are
worth looking out for. However, I don't recall ever seeing them offer a
shipping/handing discount because many Farnell customers are already not
paying those charges.

I tried one of the Farnel "10% off on Friday" offers.
The magic words were shown on the invoice, but I was charged
the full amount. Couldn't be bothered to complain, but I now
ignore similar offers they mail out from time to time, and
I don't seem to use them very often.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

In article ,
T i m writes:
Do account holders generally pay the same for the actual items do you
know?

When I was at Sun Microsystems in the early 2000's, there were
quite a few of us into electronics. I setup an internal mailing
list for ordering from CPC, and we got to the point where there
were a large number of people subscribed and we were placing
2-3 orders a week (this was all personal orders, not company
orders).

CPC then setup a special account for us with automatic 10% off
catalogue prices (but not the special offer leaflet prices).
This was open to all Sun employees. I'm not sure we made a lot
of use of it because it wasn't a credit account (and several of
us already had our own CPC credit accounts), delivery had to be
to Sun's Goods In (which wasn't always convenient), and lots of
the things we ordered were from the offer leaflets. Still, it
was a nice gesture. We don't have so many people at work ordering
stuff nowadays, but collectively we probably still place an order
with them every couple of weeks.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

That reminds me, a CPC 2010 Catalogue Preview arrived this week.
It came with a "GET £5 OFF" voucher - just quote the reference
number in the box below on your next order. The box below is
completely blank!

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

In message , Bob Eager
writes
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:50:12 +0000, Alan wrote:

Anything over £50(ish) is free P&P with CPC. I believe that Farnell are
free P&P as long as you place the order via the web (not phone) and you
pay by card at the time of ordering.

That's my experience, although I think the threshold is £45 for CPC (or
£20 on the wekend WEBFREE stuff).

CPC don't guarantee next-day for that, but it practically always is.

If they actually have it in stock

my back order record - 9 months




--
geoff

In message , Andrew Gabriel
writes
That reminds me, a CPC 2010 Catalogue Preview arrived this week.
It came with a "GET £5 OFF" voucher - just quote the reference
number in the box below on your next order. The box below is
completely blank!



And how many of the posted prices are already obsolete ?


--
geoff

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Ian White writes:

Like CPC, Farnell are forever offering discount promotions on odd
pretexts like Hallowe'en, end of month or even TGIF, so those too are
worth looking out for. However, I don't recall ever seeing them offer a
shipping/handing discount because many Farnell customers are already not
paying those charges.

I tried one of the Farnel "10% off on Friday" offers.
The magic words were shown on the invoice, but I was charged
the full amount. Couldn't be bothered to complain, but I now
ignore similar offers they mail out from time to time, and
I don't seem to use them very often.


Both companies use the same e-commerce software and you're perfectly
right, they don't have a reliable process for applying discounts.

However, I always complain - a Yorkshireman living in Scotland has
standards to maintain.


--
Ian White

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:52:26 +0000, T i m wrote:

I've just measured the guides on the down tube and it looks like the
ID is ~6mm.

So 1.5m in black would be ideal (and that allows a bit of slack). ;-)

The drums I've found are 4 core plus an overall earth braid (proper
close woven braid not these modern balding versions), overall cable
diameter is 4.5mm. The other is 6 core plus an overall earth braid
5.6mm OD. Both are black.

You are welcome to a couple of metres of either or both.

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:47:59 +0000, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:52:26 +0000, T i m wrote:

I've just measured the guides on the down tube and it looks like the
ID is ~6mm.

So 1.5m in black would be ideal (and that allows a bit of slack). ;-)

The drums I've found are 4 core plus an overall earth braid (proper
close woven braid not these modern balding versions), overall cable
diameter is 4.5mm. The other is 6 core plus an overall earth braid
5.6mm OD. Both are black.

You are welcome to a couple of metres of either or both.

Ooo, the 6 core sounds interesting Peter.

I'll pm you now.

Cheers, T i m