On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:39:49 +0100, Ian F. wrote:

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message om...

Statins are a prime example, the pharmacutical giants have influenced
the medical profession to the extent that they prescribe billions of
pounds worth of a by & large unproven drug which has unpleasant side
effects.

I have been taken statins for years and the only (side)-effect I've
noticed is a dramatic lowering of my cholesterol levels.

There are also indications that it reduces prostate inflammation. On a
sample of one (me) it works!




--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

Ophelia wrote:
"Ian F." wrote in message
...
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...

Statins are a prime example, the pharmacutical giants have influenced the
medical profession to the extent that they prescribe billions of pounds
worth of a by & large unproven drug which has unpleasant side effects.
I have been taken statins for years and the only (side)-effect I've
noticed is a dramatic lowering of my cholesterol levels.

Not everyone has been so lucky, Ian!



I'm told being on them ups your travel insurance premiums, certainly
once you hit 70.

"Owain" wrote in message
...
On 25 Sep, 10:43, "michael adams" wrote:
The water in all central heating systems is circulated by a pump.

Unless it's an unpumped system relying on gravity/thermosyphon

Owain


I'm talking about the real world. Not Googleland, as populated by hippies
and similar middle-class dropouts and yoghurt munching wannabees with solar
panels on their roofs. The same types who are always banging on about
Linux and how wonderful it is, as they sit there shivering in the middle of
winter.


michael adams

....

michael adams wrote:

The same types who are
always banging on about Linux and how wonderful it is, as they sit
there shivering in the middle of winter.

Why do Linux users feel the need to harp on about the fact they use it and
not Windows?

Who could actually give a ****?

I used to work with such a person and whilst he was moaning about how crap
Windows was, I reminded him that he worked in a team that supported Windows
servers and it was as reliable as he would have liked it, he would've been
out of a job. Idiot. He didn't moan about it again.

)

"Cicero" wrote

Isn't there a danger that the water will become stagnant? What do you use
the water for - toilet flushing or washbasin?

Cic.

Stored water loft tanks has been used in the past for:

Feeding indirect hot water cylinder
Showers - to provide balanced pressure for hot water from above source
Toilet cisterns - to provide buffer for loss of mains water
Bath cold feed (not sure why)

This was the basis for the original plumbing in my 1970s house.

Phil

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:12:50 +0100, Ian F.
wrote:

"Fred X" wrote in message
news
There's actually a show on the BBC at the moment called Cowboy Traders

I think it's where people buy old photographs of Roy Rogers, The Lone
Ranger and so on, and then auction them for charity.


Yes, it's those people who pretend to be comedians that you really have
to really watch out for.

Fred X

"Davey" wrote in message
g.com...
michael adams wrote:

The same types who are
always banging on about Linux and how wonderful it is, as they sit
there shivering in the middle of winter.

Why do Linux users feel the need to harp on about the fact they use it and
not Windows?

Who could actually give a ****?

I used to work with such a person and whilst he was moaning about how crap
Windows was, I reminded him that he worked in a team that supported Windows
servers and it was as reliable as he would have liked it, he would've been
out of a job. Idiot. He didn't moan about it again.

)



Bill is best. Bill is my friend. I'm presently doing some detailed drawings
for panel furniture using the drawing tools in Microsoft Publisher 95 which
I bought S/H boxed for around £25 in 1998. This lets you draw lines to the nearest
half mm., snap to ruler marks, etc etc and print the stuff out as large as you
like on multiple pages which you can then trim and stick together with rubber cement.
The last time I did this was with a rapidograph pen and a ruler on A2 paper which
took days, and allowed no instant corrections. But my eyes are now shot in any
case from to much staring at the magic box. Although not before I'd spent a
couple of days getting the rapidographs working condition again and lashing out
£4.50 for a tiny (23ml) bottle of ink.

michael adams

....

Mains gas "safety RCD" are likely to become the norm within about
10yrs.

You can already buy a valve which on full-bore escape will cut off the
gas.
More intelligent devices monitor appliance usage and thus will cutoff
on slight leaks.

They should really be fitted in the pavement outside rather than
internal pipework.
Lead mains gas incomers still exist, under the stairs and complicate
fire fighting.

Davey
wibbled on Friday 25 September 2009 14:16

michael adams wrote:

The same types who are
always banging on about Linux and how wonderful it is, as they sit
there shivering in the middle of winter.

Why do Linux users feel the need to harp on about the fact they use it and
not Windows?

Who could actually give a ****?

I used to work with such a person and whilst he was moaning about how crap
Windows was, I reminded him that he worked in a team that supported
Windows servers and it was as reliable as he would have liked it, he
would've been out of a job. Idiot. He didn't moan about it again.

)

Since you ask, IME the TCO[1] of running a large farm of linux servers is
much lower than the same in MS Windows. Plain text files are much easier to
script than all manner of odd APIs (registry, AD, WETF Exchange does etc).

[1] A term MS likes to use so much.

The only thing Windows has going for it is DFS which is actually quite cool.
The rest can usually be done better, cheaper and more fixably using *nix.

I think the reason linux users bang on so much, is because MS do the same,
via advertising. Linux and BSD users wonder why people would pay money to
do something

Then again, all my previous jobs since 2000 have involved a heavy
committment to linux and a bit of windows.

--
Tim Watts

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"Davey" wrote in message
g.com...
michael adams wrote:

The same types who are
always banging on about Linux and how wonderful it is, as they sit
there shivering in the middle of winter.

Why do Linux users feel the need to harp on about the fact they use it and
not Windows?

Who could actually give a ****?

I used to work with such a person and whilst he was moaning about how crap
Windows was, I reminded him that he worked in a team that supported
Windows servers and it was as reliable as he would have liked it, he
would've been out of a job. Idiot. He didn't moan about it again.

There's plenty enough to do without the increased aggravation caused by
Windows :-(

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

Not everyone has been so lucky, Ian!

Fair enough, but my cardiologist told me that he reckons 100% of
cardiologists are on them!

Ian

In article ,
TheScullster wrote:

"Cicero" wrote

Isn't there a danger that the water will become stagnant? What do you use
the water for - toilet flushing or washbasin?

Cic.

Stored water loft tanks has been used in the past for:

Feeding indirect hot water cylinder
Showers - to provide balanced pressure for hot water from above source
Toilet cisterns - to provide buffer for loss of mains water
Bath cold feed (not sure why)

This was the basis for the original plumbing in my 1970s house.

In mine everything apart from the kitchen tap was off the header tank.

I've altered things to provide mains cold water to all wash basins as well.
Although we cleaned teeth etc in header tank water for many a year with
no ill effects. I think.

--
*42.7% of statistics are made up. Sorry, that should read 47.2% *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...

With solid fuel heating you normally need to arrange for C plan style
system water heating so that you don't lose your cooling water circulation
in the event of power loss (since real fires don't go out with the
electricity!)

S'what we have. 28mm gravity circuit feeding one radiator and the hot tank.
Pumped circuit doing the rest.

We've currently got it set to pump if the gravity circuit gets to a certain
temperature, and ******** to any attempt to time things - there simply isn't
the capacity to tick over warm enough to make the thermostatic vent on the
back of the stove work. though theoretically our system can do that. Much
simpler now - want to heat the house? Shove some more fuel in, open the air
up.

It helps that most of our time in the house is in two rooms, the one with
the stove and the one with the gravity fed radiator.

"Derek Geldard" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:15 GMT, "bartc" wrote:


"Matty F" wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 12:03 am, Usenet Nutter
wrote:
Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work
or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do
not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her.

A "pro" may not do a good job.
In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where
professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is
away. There are hidden cameras.
Many professionals do not do a good job.

Some wander around the house
& check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money.

And this is actually broadcast on TV? With permission of the workman or
not?

Some may have a harmless penchant for this sort of thing

Pinching money ?

and perhaps they
should be confronted privately, but broadcasting it to friends and family
and possible customers seems unbelievably cruel.

Yeah, bring it on.


Perhaps if a good standard of work is desired, tell the workmen in advance
about the covert cameras connected to national TV, that might work quite
well.

What are the circumstances when a good standard of work (That you will
be paying for) is not required and you are happy that the workmen
frisk your drawers looking for your wife's / daughter's panties ?

That reminds me of a rewire I did where the owners had a teenage daughter.
Her bedroom had no carpet, just polished floorboards and her bedroom was
above the dining room. When we rewired the dining room light there were two
cut boards above the dining room light (probably made years ago when the
lights were changed from gas lights).

The daughter had been a compete PITA complaining about the noise etc we made
in a morning spoiling her sleep etc so when we removed these two boards and
found her stash of bondage equipment and saucy underwear I thought that it
was my duty to feed the switch wire for the light through her crotchless
panties etc before replacing the floorboards.

Out of decency I did not screw the boards down with anti-tamper screws.

Adam

ARWadsworth
wibbled on Friday 25 September 2009 20:52

The daughter had been a compete PITA complaining about the noise etc we
made in a morning spoiling her sleep etc so when we removed these two
boards and found her stash of bondage equipment and saucy underwear I
thought that it was my duty to feed the switch wire for the light through
her crotchless panties etc before replacing the floorboards.

8-:

--
Tim Watts

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"CD" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:37:24 -0700 (PDT), Matty F
wrote:

A "pro" may not do a good job.
In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where
professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is
away. There are hidden cameras.
Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house
& check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money.

That would be "House of Horrors" here in the UK.
Quite good when they spot the cameras & suddenly do a good job.

They did one this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOrHS50Xkqs

1 min 45 seconds from the start for the justice.

Adam

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:50:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In mine everything apart from the kitchen tap was off the header tank.

Everything here still is of the header tanks (plural, 3 x 50 gallon
main ones plus another 50 gallon and a 30 gallon). Mains water is a
fairly recent addition to the property.

Although we cleaned teeth etc in header tank water for many a year with
no ill effects. I think.

No ill effects here, even before I cleaned the main tanks of the
detritus and dead animals.

--
Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
Cicero wrote:
If she only uses the stored water intermittently, it may become stagnant
and unfit for drinking in an emergency.

So could mains water in an emergency. So boil it first.

--
*Sleep with a photographer and watch things develop

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
ARWadsworth wrote:
The daughter had been a compete PITA complaining about the noise etc we
made in a morning spoiling her sleep etc so when we removed these two
boards and found her stash of bondage equipment and saucy underwear I
thought that it was my duty to feed the switch wire for the light
through her crotchless panties etc before replacing the floorboards.

Out of decency I did not screw the boards down with anti-tamper screws.

;-) ;-)

Carry on like this and you'll be a rival to Bill Wright...

--
*A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it uses up a thousand times more memory.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Ian F. wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message om...

Statins are a prime example, the pharmacutical giants have
influenced the medical profession to the extent that they prescribe
billions of pounds worth of a by & large unproven drug which has
unpleasant side effects.

I have been taken statins for years and the only (side)-effect I've
noticed is a dramatic lowering of my cholesterol levels.

You can't have a blood cholesterol level - no such thing, cholesterol isn't
water soluable. More bollox.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:45:21 GMT, Stuart Noble
wrote:

Ophelia wrote:
"Ian F." wrote in message
...
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...

Statins are a prime example, the pharmacutical giants have influenced the
medical profession to the extent that they prescribe billions of pounds
worth of a by & large unproven drug which has unpleasant side effects.
I have been taken statins for years and the only (side)-effect I've
noticed is a dramatic lowering of my cholesterol levels.

Not everyone has been so lucky, Ian!



I'm told being on them ups your travel insurance premiums, certainly
once you hit 70.

Travel Insurance companies are the spawn of Satan.

One company speciaising in "pre-existing conditions"said they covered
250 conditions without having to declare them. But on inspection of
their list the conditions turned out to be ingrowing toenails and
their ilk.

OTOH they had a list of 6 "more serious" conditions only one of which
they would cover at their standard rates. These "more serious
conditions" included ever having being on blood pressure tablets, or
taking Statins.

Most medically savvy people over 50, probably a majority even end up
taking these.

With rules like this no-one can be sure of having their claim met
because of some medicines taken 30 or 40 years ago. That happened to
our office secretary insured with AXA, she spent 3 days in hospital in
Spain but AXA refused to pay the bill because she had an operation 30+
years ago with no more symptoms, investigations or treatment for a
condition totally unconnected with her old operation.

Derek

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:39:18 +0100, Andy Cap
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:54:59 GMT, "neverwas" wrote:

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way out of the mess unless and
until we get an electorate which is better educated on such matters.
(So it looks to me a close call whether we'll get there before the sun
goes red giant.)

I'm fascinated by the idea that the electorate can influence *any* single issue.
Our much hyped and self-righteously promoted democracy is no more than a sham.


It's childishly simplistic to think that parliamentary democracy
exactly like ours is the *only* possible fair or effective way to run
a country. Even if it works, if you have agovernment made up of
inveterate liars what chance is there?

Derek

On 25 Sep 2009 12:28:14 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:39:49 +0100, Ian F. wrote:

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message om...

Statins are a prime example, the pharmacutical giants have influenced
the medical profession to the extent that they prescribe billions of
pounds worth of a by & large unproven drug which has unpleasant side
effects.

I have been taken statins for years and the only (side)-effect I've
noticed is a dramatic lowering of my cholesterol levels.

There are also indications that it reduces prostate inflammation. On a
sample of one (me) it works!

What is that please (P.I.) I have to admit I've never heard of it.

Just something else no doubt that makes the life of an old man of
advancing years miserable.

So I might have it to look forward to. :-((

Derek

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:21:48 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

I wonder why that does not apply to 110V tools?

Presumably because 119v tool is not a "consumer" purchase, at least
in this country where the mains supply is 230v.

--
Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Appliances have to be supplied with a plug fitted nowadays IIRC.

I wonder why that does not apply to 110V tools? I don't recall ever
seeing on fitted with anything outer than a "normal" yellow 110V plug,
and yet many seem to come without.

If they can save a few shillings they will.

--
*Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

ARWadsworth
wibbled on Friday 25 September 2009 22:38

They did one this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOrHS50Xkqs

1 min 45 seconds from the start for the justice.

Adam

Classic!

--
Tim Watts

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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:52:59 GMT, ARWadsworth wrote:

That reminds me of a rewire I did where the owners had a teenage daughter.
Her bedroom had no carpet, just polished floorboards and her bedroom was
above the dining room. When we rewired the dining room light there were two
cut boards above the dining room light (probably made years ago when the
lights were changed from gas lights).

The daughter had been a compete PITA complaining about the noise etc we made
in a morning spoiling her sleep etc so when we removed these two boards and
found her stash of bondage equipment and saucy underwear I thought that it
was my duty to feed the switch wire for the light through her crotchless
panties etc before replacing the floorboards.

She probably enjoyed that!
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:38:17 GMT, ARWadsworth wrote:

"CD" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:37:24 -0700 (PDT), Matty F
wrote:

A "pro" may not do a good job.
In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where
professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is
away. There are hidden cameras.
Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house
& check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money.

That would be "House of Horrors" here in the UK.
Quite good when they spot the cameras & suddenly do a good job.

They did one this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOrHS50Xkqs

1 min 45 seconds from the start for the justice.

Adam

I hope he got done for using the car in that state :-
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

On 26/09/09 09:11, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:38:17 GMT, ARWadsworth wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:37:24 -0700 (PDT), Matty F
wrote:

A "pro" may not do a good job.
In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where
professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is
away. There are hidden cameras.
Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house
& check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money.

That would be "House of Horrors" here in the UK.
Quite good when they spot the cameras& suddenly do a good job.

They did one this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOrHS50Xkqs

1 min 45 seconds from the start for the justice.

Adam

I hope he got done for using the car in that state :-

An I.T. "expert" with the wrongly-paced numberplate W1N ME should have
been a clue.

"Clive George" wrote in message
o.uk...

Um, check out what TMH is...

He's God!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TMH

Ian

"michael adams" wrote in message
...

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
michael adams wrote:

Nothing googleland about gravity hot water circulation; the are plenty
of 20 odd year old boilers in daily use that have convected hot water
circulation.

See C Plan he



http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...ty_DHW:_C-Plan

And what's that thing between the boiler and the radiator on the right?
Can you see ? The circle thingy with the little triangle inside of it
? One word
four letters. Anyway, here's a clue

Now focus your attention on the unpumped side... ok, good. There we go,
quite a common setup.

On 25 Sep, 10:43, "michael adams" wrote:
The water in all central heating systems is circulated by a pump.

The gravity fed hot water system is on the left and the central heating
system -
with the pump - is on the right.

Indeed - 10/10 for observation.

The gravity circulated part of the system works without the need of the
pump.

Indeed. But that's not what I was talking about was it ?

Only a deranged person would ever imagine that you'd need a pump to get
water
from a tank in the loft to a boiler or immersion heater situated on one of
the floors below.

I was talking solely about central heating which requires water to
circulate
through any number of pipes and radiators.



Note many real world systems will also typically have some extra heating
load on the gravity side - a bathroom rad being quite common.


Indeed. There's nothing quite like a nice warm bathroom in the middle
of summer is there ?

Possibly the person who dreamed up that idea is related in some way
to the person who thought you might need a pump to get water from
the loft to one of the floors below. What do you think ?


michael adams

My radiators have valves that allow them to be turned off.

Adam

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...

"michael adams" wrote in message
...

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
michael adams wrote:

Nothing googleland about gravity hot water circulation; the are plenty
of 20 odd year old boilers in daily use that have convected hot water
circulation.

See C Plan he




http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...ty_DHW:_C-Plan

And what's that thing between the boiler and the radiator on the right?
Can you see ? The circle thingy with the little triangle inside of it
? One word
four letters. Anyway, here's a clue

Now focus your attention on the unpumped side... ok, good. There we go,
quite a common setup.

On 25 Sep, 10:43, "michael adams" wrote:
The water in all central heating systems is circulated by a pump.

The gravity fed hot water system is on the left and the central heating
system -
with the pump - is on the right.

Indeed - 10/10 for observation.

The gravity circulated part of the system works without the need of the
pump.

Indeed. But that's not what I was talking about was it ?

Only a deranged person would ever imagine that you'd need a pump to get
water
from a tank in the loft to a boiler or immersion heater situated on one of
the floors below.

I was talking solely about central heating which requires water to
circulate
through any number of pipes and radiators.



Note many real world systems will also typically have some extra heating
load on the gravity side - a bathroom rad being quite common.


Indeed. There's nothing quite like a nice warm bathroom in the middle
of summer is there ?

Possibly the person who dreamed up that idea is related in some way
to the person who thought you might need a pump to get water from
the loft to one of the floors below. What do you think ?


michael adams

My radiators have valves that allow them to be turned off.

Adam


And the bye-pass pipe running underneath the radiator ?


michael adams

....

In article ,
says...
On 26/09/09 09:11, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:38:17 GMT, ARWadsworth wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:37:24 -0700 (PDT), Matty F
wrote:

A "pro" may not do a good job.
In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where
professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is
away. There are hidden cameras.
Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house
& check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money.

That would be "House of Horrors" here in the UK.
Quite good when they spot the cameras& suddenly do a good job.

They did one this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOrHS50Xkqs

1 min 45 seconds from the start for the justice.

Adam

I hope he got done for using the car in that state :-

An I.T. "expert" with the wrongly-paced numberplate W1N ME should have
been a clue.


LOL, I was just thinking that myself! He's probably upgraded (cough, cough)
to V1 STA.

--
Halmyre

The more you know the less the better.

Cicero wrote:
I'm well aware of the several uses for a cold water storage tank
(plenty still in use) but it was the quite limited use described by
Ophelia that prompted my question. If the cold water tank serves only
one bathroom with possibly infrequent use then it might become
stagnant and could be unsafe for emergency use - particularly for
drinking, teeth cleaning etc.

We never use that bathroom for anything other than the loo really and of
course the handwashing, especially after working in the garden..

Ophelia wrote:
Isn't there a danger that the water will become stagnant? What do you
use the water for - toilet flushing or washbasin?

Well I know it is used for the washbasin and the outside tap. Not
sure about the flushing.

Ok, a quick check with his nibs, and he says it serves the loo too.

Ophelia wrote:
Ophelia wrote:
Isn't there a danger that the water will become stagnant? What do
you use the water for - toilet flushing or washbasin?

Well I know it is used for the washbasin and the outside tap. Not
sure about the flushing.

Ok, a quick check with his nibs, and he says it serves the loo too.

I've heard he's an expert on your plumbing.

ARWadsworth wrote:
"Derek Geldard" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:15 GMT, "bartc" wrote:


"Matty F" wrote in message
news:5e991fa5-b9c2-443f-8d88-
...
On Sep 25, 12:03 am, Usenet Nutter
wrote:
Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical
work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts
..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her.

A "pro" may not do a good job.
In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where
professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is
away. There are hidden cameras.
Many professionals do not do a good job.

Some wander around the house
& check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money.

And this is actually broadcast on TV? With permission of the
workman or not?

Some may have a harmless penchant for this sort of thing

Pinching money ?

and perhaps they
should be confronted privately, but broadcasting it to friends and
family and possible customers seems unbelievably cruel.

Yeah, bring it on.


Perhaps if a good standard of work is desired, tell the workmen in
advance about the covert cameras connected to national TV, that
might work quite well.

What are the circumstances when a good standard of work (That you
will be paying for) is not required and you are happy that the
workmen frisk your drawers looking for your wife's / daughter's
panties ?
That reminds me of a rewire I did where the owners had a teenage
daughter. Her bedroom had no carpet, just polished floorboards and
her bedroom was above the dining room. When we rewired the dining
room light there were two cut boards above the dining room light
(probably made years ago when the lights were changed from gas
lights).
The daughter had been a compete PITA complaining about the noise etc
we made in a morning spoiling her sleep etc so when we removed these
two boards and found her stash of bondage equipment and saucy
underwear I thought that it was my duty to feed the switch wire for
the light through her crotchless panties etc before replacing the
floorboards.
Out of decency I did not screw the boards down with anti-tamper
screws.

lol

Ian F. wrote:
"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Not everyone has been so lucky, Ian!

Fair enough, but my cardiologist told me that he reckons 100% of
cardiologists are on them!

Yes so I believe, but I have also heard many horror stories about them too.

"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Cicero wrote:
Isn't there a danger that the water will become stagnant?
All water that isn't flowing is stagnant.

Bill

Basil Jet wrote:
Ophelia wrote:
Ophelia wrote:
Isn't there a danger that the water will become stagnant? What do
you use the water for - toilet flushing or washbasin?

Well I know it is used for the washbasin and the outside tap. Not
sure about the flushing.

Ok, a quick check with his nibs, and he says it serves the loo too.

I've heard he's an expert on your plumbing.

Good fing too)