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Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work
or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. |
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"Usenet Nutter" wrote in message ... Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. And you shouldn't do specialist tiling either. What the hell is "specialist tiling"? (I think she made a reasonable point about the leccy though, given the likely audience) tim |
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Usenet Nutter wrote:
Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. Given the number of people working in the BBC on various house renovation and cowboy builder programs one wonders why a sofa designer was considered an expert on the topic. -- Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived. -- Isaac Asimov |
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On Sep 25, 12:03 am, Usenet Nutter
wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. A "pro" may not do a good job. In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is away. There are hidden cameras. Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house & check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money. d-i-y is best :) |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Usenet Nutter saying something like: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. "TV Presenter in Talks ******** Shock!" She is a brainless tart, so what do you expect? |
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In article ,
Matty F writes: On Sep 25, 12:03 am, Usenet Nutter wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. A "pro" may not do a good job. In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is away. There are hidden cameras. Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house & check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money. There's one called "Rogue Traders" here. They filmed a plumber taking **** in a header tank, and another one taking a **** in the bathroom basin, even though it was only about 2 feet from a perfectly working toilet. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:37:24 -0700 (PDT), Matty F
wrote: A "pro" may not do a good job. In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is away. There are hidden cameras. Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house & check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money. That would be "House of Horrors" here in the UK. Quite good when they spot the cameras & suddenly do a good job. |
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"Matty F" wrote in message ... On Sep 25, 12:03 am, Usenet Nutter wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. A "pro" may not do a good job. In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is away. There are hidden cameras. Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house & check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money. And this is actually broadcast on TV? With permission of the workman or not? Some may have a harmless penchant for this sort of thing and perhaps they should be confronted privately, but broadcasting it to friends and family and possible customers seems unbelievably cruel. Perhaps if a good standard of work is desired, tell the workmen in advance about the covert cameras connected to national TV, that might work quite well. Otherwise one is tempted to think the TV station is just after some sensational footage, never mind leaving some poor guy's life in tatters, or worse. -- Bart |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Matty F writes: Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house & check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money. There's one called "Rogue Traders" here. They filmed a plumber taking **** in a header tank, and another one taking a **** in the bathroom basin, even though it was only about 2 feet from a perfectly working toilet. But the BBC film those programmes for entertainment*, and the same rogues are found still operating (often later on the same programme) while trading standards and the courts do little to stop them. It kills public interest in hiring good professionals and things requiring safety work in the home get left undone, or left for resolution in the hands of the even more inexperienced. * - To be honest, Rogue Traders and Watchdog is more daily maul voyeurism than public information these days. Some of their 'articles' would make better viewing shown _after_ the process of law has happened and rogues have been seen to. Not just left as "oh dear, this has happened, how horrible (what a silly old fool of a customer)" :-( -- Adrian C |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:03:00 +0100, Usenet Nutter wrote:
Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. Yebbut..... Some of the questions I've seen in uk.d-i-y over the yaers have shown very clearly that the poster hasn't got a clue what he (or she) is taking about. In those circumstances they *shouldn't* be tackling that sort of work. OTOH, why get so uptight about such comments? Will it stop *you* (or any of the other seasoned DIYers) from going ahead? There's no need to answer the question - I know the answer. -- The Wanderer Wine Improves with age. The older I get the better it tastes! |
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"The Wanderer" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:03:00 +0100, Usenet Nutter wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. Yebbut..... Some of the questions I've seen in uk.d-i-y over the yaers have shown very clearly that the poster hasn't got a clue what he (or she) is taking about. In those circumstances they *shouldn't* be tackling that sort of work. OTOH, why get so uptight about such comments? Will it stop *you* (or any of the other seasoned DIYers) from going ahead? There's no need to answer the question - I know the answer. -- The Wanderer Wine Improves with age. The older I get the better it tastes! It's not a case for getting a so called "professional" but getting a properly qualified one. Bodged work leads to higher charges later for repair. Now "By law, only registered engineers should carry out gas work in people's properties. This register is overseen by the Gas Safe Register, a safety body that replaced Corgi in April 2009" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8259385.stm New laws on electrical work were brought in in 2005 I think. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4048371.stm i.e. "DIY-ers are to be hit by new laws set to come into force in January to combat unsafe electrical work. From next year "significant" electrical work will have to be carried out by a qualified and registered electrician, the government has confirmed. If householders decide to do the work themselves, it will have to be checked by local authority building inspectors. " Linda Barker may have been advertising NICEIC Group? "the electrical contracting industry's independent voluntary body for electrical installation matters throughout the UK." Not ******** by a long way. I have a friend who, with her two children, ended up in hospital when her husband "mended" her boiler. Carbon monoxide poisoning. M. |
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
She is a brainless tart, so what do you expect? Just my type... I love Linda Barker and her Leeds accent! A |
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I'm surprised the number of people that are actually *scared* of
electricity/plumbing/diy to the point that their emotional reaction prevents them from being rational about what is safe and what isn't. This sort of TV item promotes that fearfulness and cluelessness. |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:15:55 GMT, Skeats wrote:
"The Wanderer" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:03:00 +0100, Usenet Nutter wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. Yebbut..... Some of the questions I've seen in uk.d-i-y over the yaers have shown very clearly that the poster hasn't got a clue what he (or she) is taking about. In those circumstances they *shouldn't* be tackling that sort of work. OTOH, why get so uptight about such comments? Will it stop *you* (or any of the other seasoned DIYers) from going ahead? There's no need to answer the question - I know the answer. It's not a case for getting a so called "professional" but getting a properly qualified one. Bodged work leads to higher charges later for repair. Now "By law, only registered engineers should carry out gas work in people's properties. Why do people comment on the question they thought should have been asked rather than reply to what has been said? -- The Wanderer It pays to buy things you dislike. They last much longer. |
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
... She is a brainless tart, How do you know? Have you met her? Ian |
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"Skeats" writes: It's not a case for getting a so called "professional" but getting a properly qualified one. Bodged work leads to higher charges later for repair. Now "By law, only registered engineers should carry out gas work in people's properties. This register is overseen by the Gas Safe Register, a safety body that replaced Corgi in April 2009" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8259385.stm If you go and read the Gas Safety Regs yourself, you would know that what the BBC wrote there is incorrect. Actually, I don't mind people who haven't read the regs being under the impression they aren't allowed to do gas work, as if you don't know the gas regs, then you aren't "competent" to do the work, and the regs require you to be "competent". Someone who's being paid to do the work has to be on the Gas Safe Register, but if you are doing your own, you need to be "competent". New laws on electrical work were brought in in 2005 I think. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4048371.stm i.e. "DIY-ers are to be hit by new laws set to come into force in January to combat unsafe electrical work. From next year "significant" electrical work will have to be carried out by a qualified and registered electrician, the government has confirmed. If householders decide to do the work themselves, it will have to be checked by local authority building inspectors. " Compliance is apparently less than 1%, with many local authorities never having had any requests for checks, and some others refusing to undertake them. The majority of home wiring other than initial installation is (and has always been) DIY in the UK, and the majority of that is fine. It has been pointed out many times that there are nowhere near enough electricians or LA BCO's to undertake that electrical work/inspection. Installations which are found to be in a dangerous state are mainly down to those which haven't been touched when they should have been and are thus old and/or inadequate. Linda Barker may have been advertising NICEIC Group? "the electrical contracting industry's independent voluntary body for electrical installation matters throughout the UK." Not ******** by a long way. I have a friend who, with her two children, ended up in hospital when her husband "mended" her boiler. Carbon monoxide poisoning. And he was breaking the law, because he wasn't competent do to the work (which is what the law requires). That is unusual though. Most bad incidents are caused by unregistered cowboys, followed by registered fitters who got it wrong, followed by other professional builders whose work made an existing appliance unsafe. DIY gas incidents are pretty unheard of, which was partly why the HSE didn't ban them when gas safety regs were rewritten, even though the trade body wanted them to do so (for their obvious gain, of course). -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:15 GMT, "bartc" wrote:
"Matty F" wrote in message ... On Sep 25, 12:03 am, Usenet Nutter wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. A "pro" may not do a good job. In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is away. There are hidden cameras. Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house & check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money. And this is actually broadcast on TV? With permission of the workman or not? Some may have a harmless penchant for this sort of thing Pinching money ? and perhaps they should be confronted privately, but broadcasting it to friends and family and possible customers seems unbelievably cruel. Yeah, bring it on. Perhaps if a good standard of work is desired, tell the workmen in advance about the covert cameras connected to national TV, that might work quite well. What are the circumstances when a good standard of work (That you will be paying for) is not required and you are happy that the workmen frisk your drawers looking for your wife's / daughter's panties ? Otherwise one is tempted to think the TV station is just after some sensational footage, never mind leaving some poor guy's life in tatters, or worse. Are you for real ? Whatever you're wearing out your keyboard with that one as far as I'm concerned, some stinking rotten lazy idle theiving ****bag of a builder pinched my violin. Derek |
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On 24 sep, 16:38, Derek Geldard wrote:
Whatever you're wearing out *your keyboard with that one as far as I'm concerned, some stinking rotten lazy idle theiving ****bag of a builder pinched my violin. Ah, so he was on the fiddle then? Cheers Jeff |
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Linda Barker may have been advertising NICEIC Group? "the electrical contracting industry's independent voluntary body for electrical installation matters throughout the UK." Not ******** by a long way. I had one of those contractors on a job recently. Drilled through his own cable, forgot to earth the plumbing, and never did supply the certificate. Didn't get paid the final instalment either. |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:15:55 GMT, "Skeats"
wrote: I have a friend who, with her two children, ended up in hospital when her husband "mended" her boiler. Whatever did he do ? Carbon monoxide poisoning. Not at all easy with a modern room sealed boiler. FSVO "Modern", our new house bought in 1976 had one and it has been replaced 3 times since then. Derek |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Actually, I don't mind people who haven't read the regs being under the impression they aren't allowed to do gas work, as if you don't know the gas regs, then you aren't "competent" Sounds like a variation of Catch 22. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Ian F." saying something like: "Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message .. . She is a brainless tart, How do you know? Have you met her? I can tell you're a pedantic ******. How's that? |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Derek Geldard saying something like: Whatever you're wearing out your keyboard with that one as far as I'm concerned, some stinking rotten lazy idle theiving ****bag of a builder pinched my violin. Oh dear; how could he sink cello? |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:37:24 +0100, Matty F wrote:
On Sep 25, 12:03 am, Usenet Nutter wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. A "pro" may not do a good job. In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is away. There are hidden cameras. Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house & check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money. d-i-y is best :) There's actually a show on the BBC at the moment called Cowboy Traders although I don't know if they feature any panty sniffers on it. Fred X |
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
... We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the I can tell you're a pedantic ******. How's that? *smile* Ian |
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"Fred X" wrote in message
... There's actually a show on the BBC at the moment called Cowboy Traders I think it's where people buy old photographs of Roy Rogers, The Lone Ranger and so on, and then auction them for charity. Ian |
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On 24 Sep, 13:03, Usenet Nutter
wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. * She of all people (or was it Carol Smiley) should warn people not to try difficult tasks like putting up a shelf after one of those telly programmes wrecked someone's collection of much loved teapots when the whole lot came crashing down. Owain |
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On 24 Sep, 13:17, "tim....." wrote:
(I think she made a reasonable point about the leccy though, given the likely audience) And given the person speaking. Owain |
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On 24 Sep, 13:29, Nomen Publicus wrote:
Given the number of people working in the BBC on various house renovation and cowboy builder programs one wonders why a sofa designer was considered an expert on the topic. I don't think she actually designs the 'serfas', but I still wouldn't have one in my 'herm'. Owain |
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On 24 Sep, 16:38, Derek Geldard wrote:
What are the circumstances when a good standard of work (That you will be paying for) is not required and you are happy that the workmen frisk your drawers looking for your wife's / daughter's panties ? Or you want a discount if you let the chap in the wife's unmentionables. Owain |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:07:35 -0700, RubberBiker wrote:
I'm surprised the number of people that are actually *scared* of electricity/plumbing/diy to the point that their emotional reaction prevents them from being rational about what is safe and what isn't. This sort of TV item promotes that fearfulness and cluelessness. Absolutely! We are very rapidly approaching the slippery slope where people just will not even be able to think for themselves. I recently had to put a plug on an appliance for someone who did not know how. Amazingly, he told me that it was covered in some lesson, "module"? he did at school but he had forgotten it as it was not part of getting an exam result. The fact that the BBC propagates this sort of rubbish on behalf of this overbearing government, is proof enough to me that things are going to get worse, a lot worse. Nice weather today! Steve |
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RubberBiker wrote:
I'm surprised the number of people that are actually *scared* of electricity/plumbing/diy to the point that their emotional reaction prevents them from being rational about what is safe and what isn't. This sort of TV item promotes that fearfulness and cluelessness. Indeed, although some wear that as a badge of pride! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Owain wrote:
On 24 Sep, 13:03, Usenet Nutter wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. She of all people (or was it Carol Smiley) should warn people not to try difficult tasks like putting up a shelf after one of those telly programmes wrecked someone's collection of much loved teapots when the whole lot came crashing down. Twas Carol IIRC. Some set of shelved suspended (briefly!) from wires. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk... Twas Carol IIRC. Some set of shelved suspended (briefly!) from wires. I've got some shelving suspended from wires - taking really quite a heavy load of books. OTOH I've also got a clue, and chose the wires and fixings appropriately :-) |
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Key is not Pro or DIY, but competent.
For example Linda Barker's wallpaper often has incompetently made edging making it impossible to hang without gaps. So not all Pro's or DIYer's are competent. In the words of Dirty Harry, a (wo)man has got to know their limitations. ELEC - Statuatory Instrument (SI) 2006 replaced 2004 That defines notifiable and NON-notifiable work. - DIY can quite happily a) do non-notifable work AND b) do notifiable work with inspection. - DIY must do work to BS7671 (or named standard), whether they notify or not Pro's of course can - 1) not do it to any standard it merely has to be safe in their view - 2) have a registered company but unqualified, incompetent staff with just a QA spark who turns up to eyeball & collect the money - 3) have 5-day trained Domestic Installers rather than proper C&G 2382 and preferably (but not necessarily) 2392 A Pro is no-longer a Pro when he bawls over a neighbour's fence or wholesaler that the law is SI2004, he becomes a cowboy with spurs - and needs the fuse removing rapidly. GAS - Gas work that is remunerated is illegal unless registered DIY should do no work whatsoever unless competent for the EXTENT of that work AND that includes right materials, right method, right inspection and testing (combustion analyser for boilers) AND as much, knowing what they don't know. DIY conversely can just go and buy Viper, Tolleys and then a) define what they know and b) what skills are sufficient. That may limit them to turning on a gas appliance as a consumer. It might limit them to capping an appliance off. Pro should do not work whatsoever unless competent for the EXTENT of that work - because Gas Safe has specific qualifications for each task and is specific to the actual individual rather than the company. Pro's of course can... - 1) fail to sleeve thro the wall - 2) fail to ensure any of 11 outside end-feed fittings had a continuous bead of solder with leaks were detectable from 9 (leaking for 8yrs by that point) - 3) push 8mm pipe into a 15mm elbow and "fill-in" with solder - 4) fail to sleeve thro the wall again - 5) fail to fit a gas tap to allow appliance isolation - 6) fail to locate the appliance at a height which permits a gas tap - 7) deliberately not fit a gas tap so inspection leaks can be blamed on appliance vs pipe - 8) locate an appliance contrary to manufacturers instructions - 9) physically fix the appliance with screws much deeper than the browning so it is effectively supported by the flu tabs & pipe This is the old British Gas where "everyone trusted and nobody looked". Thankfully Transco ACS do in fact look and as he put it "spends all my day wiping the arse of previous gas fitters who shouldn't have been let loose with Lego". Both DIY & Pro can do poor work. The worst mentality is when a nation hands over responsibility to essentially self-policing bodies because Pro's very rapidly become cowboys because they can assume all work and dis-assume responsibility as Corgi so demonstrated. Ireland has no Corgi/Gas Safe yet has no statistically significant different in incidents (indeed over a 10yr period I recall it was less, but that may be due to other factors rather than DIY being particularly better or Pro's more competent). Too many gas people ended up with poor practical skills & good multiple choice skills. Standard of soldering should be job #1 yet is often really pretty shabby as well as the understand of *why* something is done like it is, *why* it matters and the *science* behind it. Same goes for 5-day DI, who simply do not know enough yet stand bawling at C&G qualified people "they are wrong" only to have a Hilmor shoved up their ass. Following a manual is not enough, hence DIY gas work even with the right manuals will always be virtually non- existent (and is, most common from HSE is "capping a pipe". Most common error of old BG is "no compression fittings are allowed inside" (even if accessible), which is useful because it got a meter moved outside for free in those days. What surprises is the no-one has mentioned the obvious - the BBC has no interest in DIY shows, only "Cowboy & DIY-SOS". Much DIY work is of a far higher standard than Pro, but some is atrocious. If someone is not competent for the extent of the work, then obviously get someone in. Now, who wants to consider kitchen fitters and what they do a) themselves b) to elec & gas after the others have left the room... because that... truly... can be horrific. NuLabour recreated the ministry of silly walk men-in-brown-overalls, one to hold a screwdriver, one to write a HIPS, one to do an efficiency assessment with moronic software & moronic lack of understanding, one for window tax making it uneconomic to use maintainable DIY-built wood windows at the expensive of vast quantities of DG landfill which will merely increase with future secondary glazing requirements (gap) and sustainable construction (wood, acacia, gov't monitoring cameras). Hopefully the next bunch remove the ball-&-chain with a flag painted on it so as to prevent it being questioned by peer pressure. BR should hopefully be reduced to a set of end-results, since the present lot is merely creating a lot of opportunity for rushed-to-market rubbish products. |
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"Derek Geldard" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:15 GMT, "bartc" wrote: "Matty F" wrote in message ... On Sep 25, 12:03 am, Usenet Nutter wrote: Talking ******** by telling people to stay away from Electrical work or Plumbing work and get a pro in to do it . No ifs or buts ..Just do not do it and of course,nobody there to contradict her. A "pro" may not do a good job. In New Zealand we have a TV programme called Target where professionals are asked to do all kinds of jobs while the owner is away. There are hidden cameras. Many professionals do not do a good job. Some wander around the house & check the panty drawers etc. Some pinch money. And this is actually broadcast on TV? With permission of the workman or not? Whatever you're wearing out your keyboard with that one as far as I'm concerned, some stinking rotten lazy idle theiving ****bag of a builder pinched my violin. You of course have never done anything wrong, embarrassing or inappropriate, but I doubt whether the best course of action when caught out is to be shown on national TV as 'entertainment' rather than be dealt with privately or involving the law. People are capable of moving on but being in TV or youtube archives for evermore makes that more difficult. |
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snip lots of good stuff
Hopefully the next bunch remove the ball-&-chain with a flag painted on it so as to prevent it being questioned by peer pressure. BR should hopefully be reduced to a set of end-results, since the present lot is merely creating a lot of opportunity for rushed-to-market rubbish products. Sadly I very much doubt it. While some of them at least understand the costs and benefits of regulation, the political reality is that little would be heard from those (such as you) who would benefit from deregulation and a lot would be heard from those with a vested interest in screaming "danger! danger!". Add in the flak which would come when[1] someone died as a result of a DIY'd job - with the Minister who introduced the new legislation pressed to resign - and it just doesn't look to me to be a proposition any Minister could buy. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any way out of the mess unless and until we get an electorate which is better educated on such matters. (So it looks to me a close call whether we'll get there before the sun goes red giant.) [1] I say "when" not "if" because there's bound to be one sooner or later - just as there are people who die as a result of a bad paid/licensed job. -- R |
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bartc wrote:
You of course have never done anything wrong, embarrassing or inappropriate, but I doubt whether the best course of action when caught out is to be shown on national TV as 'entertainment' rather than be dealt with privately or involving the law. People are capable of moving on but being in TV or youtube archives for evermore makes that more difficult. Tough ****. If you haven't done anything wrong, then there's nowt to worry about. We've all done something wrong and embarrassing, but going into someone's home and doing it is an entirely new league. The trouble with (most) tradesmen these days is they have no respect. For the customers home, or for themselves. They'd much rather sit in the van in a car park and drink tea whilst "getting some parts", or get off home early and bodge the work. This is the sole reason why I do as much work in my home as is possible. |
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Steve
wibbled on Thursday 24 September 2009 17:51 We are very rapidly approaching the slippery slope where people just will not even be able to think for themselves. Rapidly approaching?... I recently had to put a plug on an appliance for someone who did not know how. Amazingly, he told me that it was covered in some lesson, "module"? he did at school but he had forgotten it as it was not part of getting an exam result. The fact that the BBC propagates this sort of rubbish on behalf of this overbearing government, is proof enough to me that things are going to get worse, a lot worse. At least a few here will be ready to front the revolution due to still having intact braincells. Count me in when it happens - till then I'll be down the pub... -- Tim Watts This space intentionally left blank... |
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