I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be a
bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double hole
washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to buy a
replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without raising
the cistern?

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:37:44 +0100, "Gareth"
wrote:

I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be a
bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double hole
washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to buy a
replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without raising
the cistern?

Would raising the cistern ( even if possible) solve the problem? ..I
can't see that it would .

"Gareth" wrote in message
...
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be
a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

suitably disguised stick-on magnet(s)/keeper?

Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

Just a thought - is the seat a thick wooden one? A thin plastic one
might work. The thinner the seat is, the further back the centre of mass
can go.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem

In laws house has it in spades.

and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

Nope. I guess a rubber cord to the seat hooked around the pipe might work.

Mind you that house is all women largely, and the lid alone *just* stays
up, so 'no problem' innit?

I'd get a slimline cistern IIWY.

Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

Is it fouling on the the cistern or the cistern handle?

i.e. the furthest forward part of the cistern may be the handle
(assuming it's on the front) - it is on mine - the handle extends 38mm
out from the cistern.

When I get the time, I plan to replace the handle with something like:

http://www.partridges.uk.com/catalog...roducts_id=562

or:

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/17031/...-Lever-Chrome#

Both of which look as if they extend far less than 38mm. In my case I
reckon that 10mm less would fix the problem.

- Robin

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:37:44 +0100, "Gareth"
wrote:

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without raising
the cistern?

No, it's a bugger, but it don't arf keep small blokes on their toes
when they are peeing.

Just showed me to be more careful when buying badly designed crap. (Or
crappers)
(

Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems
to be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a
double hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find
anywhere to buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

Change the toilet seat & lid. Rummage around in B&Q opening boxes till you
find a seat with multiple fixing points. These normally have three threaded
holes in the hinge so you can screw the bolts into the best fit & also
revolve to help in lining things up.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Gareth" wrote in message
...
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be
a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

There is only one way to do that! It might appear odd, but glue a couple of
small
strong magnets to the cistern on an underside edge. Attach a small piece of
metal
the the toilet seat, maybe bending it around on an inside edge at the front
and glue
it. Then the seat will stay up. Or you could glue a few strong magnets to
the
back of the seat when it is flat, then put a small piece of metal (painted
to match)
on the rear of the toilet. Those really strong small magnets will easily
hold it.

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
news
Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems
to be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a
double hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find
anywhere to buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

Change the toilet seat & lid. Rummage around in B&Q opening boxes till
you find a seat with multiple fixing points. These normally have three
threaded holes in the hinge so you can screw the bolts into the best fit &
also revolve to help in lining things up.

And, while he's rummaging, get a bit of stainless threaded rod to replace
the nasty rust buggers that come with all these fittings, and make a right
old mess that is a pain to deal with next time you want to adjust things.

S

Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

We have the same problem except the plank that did the bathroom before
we had the house actually put the toilet in on a forward tilting angle
then fitted slate floor tiles cut around (and up) the base of the toilet.

So, we have a 6 yr old weeing on the seat. Myself I do a ladies (or
lazyman) style wee and 'er don't even know there's anything wrong with
it as she's never attempted weeing standing up..... well, I hope not as
our old dog may have been blamed for nothing for all these years!
(yes he sometimes wees in the bathroom!)

:¬)

I'll be watching this thread closely.

Cheers
Pete

www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

Gareth wrote:

I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?


We have the same problem except the plank that did the bathroom before
we had the house actually put the toilet in on a forward tilting angle
then fitted slate floor tiles cut around (and up) the base of the toilet.

I have a theory that all bathrooms are designed by a woman. Their
attention to detail means that the toilet seat is always in the down
position :-(

So, we have a 6 yr old weeing on the seat. Myself I do a ladies (or
lazyman) style wee and 'er don't even know there's anything wrong with
it as she's never attempted weeing standing up.

Did you never see the film 'The Full Monty? Where the young lad is in a
cubical watching a woman peeing like a man does. Hitches skirt up, drops
knickers almost to the floor and then pees onto the back of the urinals.

Dave

Dave W wrote:
On 17 Sep, 19:37, "Gareth" wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be a
bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double hole
washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to buy a
replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without raising
the cistern?

The two fixings I've encountered are made with rotatable disks that
sit over the holes in the ceramic. The disks have two 'nut' sections,
either of which can take the fixing bolts. This means a wide range of
positions for the lid hinges can be set up, and I had to bring the
pivots to the maximum distance towards you, to allow the heavy lid to
stay up. A possible trouble was that the lid was now so far forward
that the front edge of the pan was almost fully visible.

Dave W

I fitted a slimline plastic cistern. A bit pikey but it gave me extra
space for 2" of insulation behind, plus the seat stayed up.

Did you never see the film 'The Full Monty? Where the young lad is in a
cubical watching a woman peeing like a man does. Hitches skirt up, drops
knickers almost to the floor and then pees onto the back of the urinals.

http://web.archive.org/web/200306041.../standing.html


--
frank

In message , frank
writes
Did you never see the film 'The Full Monty? Where the young lad is in a
cubical watching a woman peeing like a man does. Hitches skirt up, drops
knickers almost to the floor and then pees onto the back of the urinals.

http://web.archive.org/web/200306041.../standing.html



I remember this happening when I was stewarding for dexys midnight
runners in kilburn, years ago

in the bogs, two "ladies" strode into the men's and one kept guard while
the other dropped her knicks and ****ed against the porcelain

a definite "what are you looking at ?" look on both their faces


--
geoff

Ian wrote:
"Gareth" wrote in message
...
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be
a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

There is only one way to do that! It might appear odd, but glue a couple of
small
strong magnets to the cistern on an underside edge. Attach a small piece of
metal
the the toilet seat, maybe bending it around on an inside edge at the front
and glue
it. Then the seat will stay up. Or you could glue a few strong magnets to
the
back of the seat when it is flat, then put a small piece of metal (painted
to match)
on the rear of the toilet. Those really strong small magnets will easily
hold it.

I was after a couple of powerful little magnets like this for another
job the other day, but couldn't think where to look to buy some locally
(in fact the only sources I could come up with were specialist online
suppliers which would be too slow and with big p&p/minimum order
charges. I solved the problem by another method eventually.

What retail outlets sell them, anyone know?

David

It's usually a 'feature' of toilets installed by female plumbers...

--
F

"Gareth" wrote in message
...
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be
a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

Thanks for all the replies - it seems though as if there isn't a simple
solution. I can't help but think that I've missed something in terms of
fixing alignment but I've tried every permutation possible.

I may try to find a thinner plastic seat but I'm not convinced it will solve
the problem. It looks as if I will need to buy a new set anyway because
there's nowhere to buy replacement (2 hole) fixing washers from.

It's crazy really. I can't believe that someone would install a toilet
without checking that the seat can stay up. But they obviously did - either
that or didn't care.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Gareth"
saying something like:

It's crazy really. I can't believe that someone would install a toilet
without checking that the seat can stay up. But they obviously did - either
that or didn't care.

It's dead common, as many a bruised willy will demonstrate.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
How much more suspenseful can you get?"
- House

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Gareth"
saying something like:

It's crazy really. I can't believe that someone would install a
toilet without checking that the seat can stay up. But they
obviously did - either that or didn't care.

It's dead common, as many a bruised willy will demonstrate.

....and the water is cold as well.



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In uk.d-i-y, Gareth wrote:
I can't believe that someone would install a toilet without checking
that the seat can stay up. But they obviously did - either that or
didn't care.

By the time they find out, it's too late to do anything about it, even
if they wanted to.

--
Mike Barnes

The Medway Handyman wrote:

It's crazy really. I can't believe that someone would install a
toilet without checking that the seat can stay up. But they
obviously did - either that or didn't care.
It's dead common, as many a bruised willy will demonstrate.

...and the water is cold as well.

And deep!

On 19/09/2008 21:20 Gareth wrote:

Thanks for all the replies - it seems though as if there isn't a simple
solution. I can't help but think that I've missed something in terms of
fixing alignment but I've tried every permutation possible.

Are you sure that neither the seat to pan fixing, nor the seat to hinge
fixing doesn't have a second hole or slot to allow for the seat to be
moved forward on the pan?

--
F

"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
...
On 19/09/2008 21:20 Gareth wrote:

Thanks for all the replies - it seems though as if there isn't a simple
solution. I can't help but think that I've missed something in terms of
fixing alignment but I've tried every permutation possible.

Are you sure that neither the seat to pan fixing, nor the seat to hinge
fixing doesn't have a second hole or slot to allow for the seat to be
moved forward on the pan?

Thank you. Yes, there is a second hole. Problem is I managed to lose the 2
hole washer (the one that fits between the seat and pan) down the toilet! It
doesn't seem possible to buy a replacement anywhere so I guess I'm going to
have to buy a different seat anyway. Very frustrating.

Gareth.

Gareth wrote:

Problem is I managed to lose the 2
hole washer (the one that fits between the seat and pan) down the toilet!
It doesn't seem possible to buy a replacement anywhere so I guess I'm
going to have to buy a different seat anyway. Very frustrating.

I've got a salvaged one here in my box of "bits that might come in useful
some day but seldom do" (TM). It's a bit rust stained but you're welcome to
it if it helps, my reply address (but not the from address) should work if
you want to email me your snail mail address.

--
Mike Clarke

On 21/09/2008 09:56 Gareth wrote:

Thank you. Yes, there is a second hole. Problem is I managed to lose the
2 hole washer (the one that fits between the seat and pan) down the
toilet! It doesn't seem possible to buy a replacement anywhere so I
guess I'm going to have to buy a different seat anyway.

The ones I've dealt with have been rubber/plastic washers: metal against
porcelain doesn't sound like a good idea. Can you find something with a
little 'give' in it to go between the two surfaces?

--
F

Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

As others have suggested, flipping the little mounting plates round can
buy you another half inch or so, but it sounds like you tried that.

I am imagining a cantilevered counterweight (or spring) attached to the
seat, so that it defaults to the UP position, like on aeroplanes. No
more getting smacked on the todger in mid-flow.

Edwin.
------

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:49:59 +0100, Edwin Spector
wrote:

Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

As others have suggested, flipping the little mounting plates round can
buy you another half inch or so, but it sounds like you tried that.

I am imagining a cantilevered counterweight (or spring) attached to the
seat, so that it defaults to the UP position, like on aeroplanes. No
more getting smacked on the todger in mid-flow.

Another possibility is to use one of those brass latch things fitted
at the end of a pub bar to hold up, well, the end section for the
staff to pass through.

--
Frank Erskine

Frank Erskine wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:49:59 +0100, Edwin Spector
wrote:


Gareth wrote:

I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to
buy a replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising the cistern?

As others have suggested, flipping the little mounting plates round can
buy you another half inch or so, but it sounds like you tried that.

I am imagining a cantilevered counterweight (or spring) attached to the
seat, so that it defaults to the UP position, like on aeroplanes. No
more getting smacked on the todger in mid-flow.


Another possibility is to use one of those brass latch things fitted
at the end of a pub bar to hold up, well, the end section for the
staff to pass through.

Wouldn't half hurt your back when you sat down on the seat with your
newspaper in your hands though ;-)

And think of the ear ache when your wife sits on the seat. She has to do
it this way every time :-(

Having read this thread from day one, I think the best answer was the
strong magnet and steel plate under the seat.

Dave

Dave wrote:

And think of the ear ache when your wife sits on the seat. She has to do
it this way every time :-(

Having read this thread from day one, I think the best answer was the
strong magnet and steel plate under the seat.


Well, even better. Replace the magnet with a electromagnet, and then
RFID microchip the wife like the family pet. When she approaches the
lav, the seat WILL be down....

though it may make a hell of a thump in the middle of the night....

--
Adrian C

Adrian C wrote:

Dave wrote:


And think of the ear ache when your wife sits on the seat. She has to
do it this way every time :-(

Having read this thread from day one, I think the best answer was the
strong magnet and steel plate under the seat.


Well, even better. Replace the magnet with a electromagnet, and then
RFID microchip the wife like the family pet. When she approaches the
lav, the seat WILL be down....

though it may make a hell of a thump in the middle of the night....

LOL

No RAOTFLMAO

Dave

Dave wrote:
Well, even better. Replace the magnet with a electromagnet, and then
RFID microchip the wife like the family pet.

Hmm - I can think of endless uses of that...
Better yet, I'll get the kids done, too.

David

The message
from Dave contains these words:



And think of the ear ache when your wife sits on the seat. She has to do
it this way every time :-(

Most women can learn to do the needful standing up, you know :-)

"Appin" wrote in message
...
The message
from Dave contains these words:



And think of the ear ache when your wife sits on the seat. She has to do
it this way every time :-(

Most women can learn to do the needful standing up, you know :-)

Slightly easier for the man to do the needful sitting down. I suspect views
on this are set by whether the person expressing the view cleans the toilet.


--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

The message
from "Bob Mannix" contains these words:

Most women can learn to do the needful standing up, you know :-)

Slightly easier for the man to do the needful sitting down. I suspect views
on this are set by whether the person expressing the view cleans the toilet.

German males are generally required to urinate sitting, at least in
domestic premises.

However, a lot of younger females are quite practised at urinating
standing -- very useful in the great outdoors and at music festivals
etc.

On Sep 17, 6:37*pm, "Gareth" wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be a
bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double hole
washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to buy a
replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without raising
the cistern?

What about removing the lid completely?

Robert

The message

from RobertL contains these words:

On Sep 17, 6:37*pm, "Gareth" wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems
to be a
bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a
double hole
washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to buy a
replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising
the cistern?

What about removing the lid completely?


Brilliant!

On Wednesday, 17 September 2008 19:37:44 UTC+1, Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be a
bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double hole
washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to buy a
replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without raising
the cistern?

Solutions for toilet seat won't stay up

1. Attach a flat magnet to the underside of the seat.
2. Attach a ferromagnetic metal to a short string attached to a hook attached to the side of the cistern. I used a tablecloth weight as sold by Lidl/Aldi. lift the seat and attach the metal to the magnet.
or attach a cord around the cistern or to a hook on the side of the cistern and adjust it with one of those spring tighteners you find on waterproof jackets and hold the seat up with a loop of cord thus: sorry pictures don't appear here.
5.

On 31/01/18 19:27, wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 September 2008 19:37:44 UTC+1, Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to be a
bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double hole
washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to buy a
replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without raising
the cistern?

Solutions for toilet seat won't stay up

1. Attach a flat magnet to the underside of the seat.
2. Attach a ferromagnetic metal to a short string attached to a hook attached to the side of the cistern. I used a tablecloth weight as sold by Lidl/Aldi. lift the seat and attach the metal to the magnet.
or attach a cord around the cistern or to a hook on the side of the cistern and adjust it with one of those spring tighteners you find on waterproof jackets and hold the seat up with a loop of cord thus: sorry pictures don't appear here.
5.

Don't you think that Gareth might have solved his problem in the last 8
1/2 years?


--
Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

2008, surely its solved by now.
Anyway, normally you can find toilet seats with enough crank on the hinge
to manage to stay up and some have a soft click position to help them do so.
I have one of them posh slow drop down ones.
Brian

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On Wednesday, 17 September 2008 19:37:44 UTC+1, Gareth wrote:
I can't find any solution to this problem - the toilet cistern seems to
be a
bit too far forward for the seat to stay up.

I've tried altering the position of the fixings (and even lost a double
hole
washer down the toilet in the process - and can't find anywhere to buy a
replacement!)

Has anyone else had the same problem and managed to solve it without
raising
the cistern?

Solutions for toilet seat won't stay up

1. Attach a flat magnet to the underside of the seat.
2. Attach a ferromagnetic metal to a short string attached to a hook
attached to the side of the cistern. I used a tablecloth weight as sold by
Lidl/Aldi. lift the seat and attach the metal to the magnet.
or attach a cord around the cistern or to a hook on the side of the
cistern and adjust it with one of those spring tighteners you find on
waterproof jackets and hold the seat up with a loop of cord thus: sorry
pictures don't appear here.
5.