"Randy" wrote in message
...
Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

If a smaller "resivoir" machine will handle your volume, buy it, cut the
bottom out of it's basket and mount it over the old basket with sheet metal
or plywood, etc. We made ours fit the recycling bin...
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Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

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"Randy" wrote in message
...
Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

Remove 333 from email address to reply.

BE SURE TO GET THE CONFETTI TYPE. There are readers and computer programs
out there now that can read and reassemble strips from strip shredded
documents.

Steve

visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book

I have a staples branded unit, 16 sheet, "titanium cutter" - this is much
better than the fellows it replaced and cuts much smaller so it's more
secure - and it cuts faster - could be worth a look

"Randy" wrote in message
...
Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

Remove 333 from email address to reply.

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:21:07 -0500, Randy wrote:

Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

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Hit all the Salvation Army, St. Vincent D' Paul and all the local thrift
stores.

In California anyways..shredders are regularly found. And one can simply
put a shredder on a piece of plywood and put it on a 55 gallon drum if
necessary

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:21:07 -0500, Randy wrote:

Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

Remove 333 from email address to reply.

I have this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16846101017

On 2010-07-15, Randy wrote:
Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

Well ... we had several "Intimus 007" shredders at work back
about fifteen years ago (one per building). Probably around 40" high or
so, with an interlock on the Plexiglass safety cover. Cut about 1/32"
wide by about 3/16" long (most likely actually metric dimensions, as I
seem to remember it being made in Germany. Three phase power, a big wire
basket in the bottom with a very big plastic bag lining it.

It shredded a lot of material rather quickly -- at least until
someone put a binder clip on the shelf and it vibrated into the shred
area and it stopped with a bang which was heard all around the building.
When I got there, I found one very embarrassed secretary. :-)

I opened it up, and discovered that not only did it break the
double roller chain which went from motor to cutter bars, but also broke
the base on which the parts were mounted. (And of course several cutter
discs were beyond help.)

However -- they were quite expensive. It took quite a while to
get a replacement budgeted, so lots of trips to other buildings to shred
documents.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

A later model of this appears he

http://www.jtfbus.com/jtf/item.cfm?id=5912

It appears to have the shredding head separate from the enclosure, runs
from 120 VAC single phase (with a 240 VAC version available), and sells
for $6375.00 at this places's sale price.

Apparently some of the console types are available on eBay, some
currently showing for well under $1000.00.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:21:07 -0500, Randy wrote:

Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

Remove 333 from email address to reply.
I use an old GBC shredder. It has a nylon drive gear on a 7/16" hex
shaft that used to slip badly until I replaced the hub with a piece of
a cheap bicycle type wrench. It only handles about three sheets at a
time but a few years back, I set it up over a garbage bag stand and
produced 17 leaf bags of shredded paper. Like you, I shred everything,
even flyers, and set out a leaf bag every couple months. If someone
wants to re-assemble anything out of my recyclable paper I wish them
lots of luck - I know it can be done, but the return would be
negligible.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...
I have a staples branded unit, 16 sheet, "titanium cutter" - this is much
better than the fellows it replaced and cuts much smaller so it's more
secure - and it cuts faster - could be worth a look

BOYCOTT STAPLES!!
Staples is to stationery what HD is to home repair.
--
EA



"Randy" wrote in message
...
Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

Remove 333 from email address to reply.

"Randy" wrote in message
...
Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00.

Too bad berlers cain't accommodate garbage.
Heh, but *fireplaces* can!
--
EA



Thank You,
Randy

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I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Chop out/off the bottom of the bin, and set it on a bigger bin/trash
can/chute. If the design of the one you buy for its shredding abilities
(pay attention to duty cycles - some are laughable) requires chopping
the bottom of the machine as well as the bin, so be it.

Then if you really want to make it impossible to recover data, add some
manure, food scraps, etc. and put it on the garden.

I'm happy with the one I presently use, but it's not up to the sort of
use you're putting yours to, and no longer available anyway.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:55:28 -0400, Ecnerwal
wrote:


Then if you really want to make it impossible to recover data, add some
manure, food scraps, etc. and put it on the garden.

That's the best idea yet. It never occurred to me to compost sensitive
papers. Now if I could just be sure the raccoons haven't learned about
identity theft. g

--
Ned Simmons

"Existential Angst" on Fri, 16 Jul 2010
04:00:35 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...
I have a staples branded unit, 16 sheet, "titanium cutter" - this is much
better than the fellows it replaced and cuts much smaller so it's more
secure - and it cuts faster - could be worth a look

BOYCOTT STAPLES!!
Staples is to stationery what HD is to home repair.

Staples business model is to be the "late night convince store" of
office supplies. When you positively absolutely need one, they'll have
something which will do the job - for a price. It is their niche,
and it works for them.
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Gerald Miller on Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:00:37 -0400
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

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I use an old GBC shredder. It has a nylon drive gear on a 7/16" hex
shaft that used to slip badly until I replaced the hub with a piece of
a cheap bicycle type wrench. It only handles about three sheets at a
time but a few years back, I set it up over a garbage bag stand and
produced 17 leaf bags of shredded paper. Like you, I shred everything,
even flyers, and set out a leaf bag every couple months.

I use shredded documents for fire starter. Works well enough.

If someone
wants to re-assemble anything out of my recyclable paper I wish them
lots of luck - I know it can be done, but the return would be
negligible.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Ned Simmons on Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:33:12 -0400 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:55:28 -0400, Ecnerwal
wrote:


Then if you really want to make it impossible to recover data, add some
manure, food scraps, etc. and put it on the garden.

That's the best idea yet. It never occurred to me to compost sensitive
papers. Now if I could just be sure the raccoons haven't learned about
identity theft. g

With those masks ... what are they trying to conceal?
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Living alone, and being of sound mind (was that you, honey?) and over
18 years old. I took the grinder machine off my shredder. Faked out
the safety switch, and strapped it to the wall over a 13 galon kitchen
basket.

I would never suggest that anyone else defeat safety mechanisms. You
could perhaps take the short-basket model you mention. Saw the bottom
off the basket, and strap the whole thing (shredder, and basket with
open bottom) over a larger trash bin. That way, the small, open-bottom
basket would act as a shield, and keep peoples fingers away from the
gnashing of teeth and weeping and wailing and such.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Randy" wrote in message
...
Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

Remove 333 from email address to reply.

Wish I'd read this before typing my reply.

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Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Ecnerwal" wrote in
message
...
I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Chop out/off the bottom of the bin, and set it on a bigger bin/trash
can/chute. If the design of the one you buy for its shredding
abilities
(pay attention to duty cycles - some are laughable) requires chopping
the bottom of the machine as well as the bin, so be it.

Then if you really want to make it impossible to recover data, add
some
manure, food scraps, etc. and put it on the garden.

I'm happy with the one I presently use, but it's not up to the sort of
use you're putting yours to, and no longer available anyway.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

On 7/15/2010 11:26 AM, Steve B wrote:

(...)

BE SURE TO GET THE CONFETTI TYPE. There are readers and computer programs
out there now that can read and reassemble strips from strip shredded
documents.

Are we not metalworkers?

I'm envisioning an 'open source' shredder.
'Way overbuilt. Interdigitated banks of hardened tool steel
punches of various sizes convert up to 10 sheets per pass
into small pieces of random shapes.

Here is a use for that 1 HP gear motor you've been saving!

--Winston

Randy wrote:

Anyone here use or know of a good paper shredder? I'm looking to
replace my Executive machines model that died, (it was a long slow
death). I checked it out and the plastic spacers that keep the knives
apart are broken/gone, the knives now bind up and overload the
machine. I did consider machining some aluminum spacers and
rebuilding the whole thing but I don't think it's worth it.

I want cross cut, at least 8 sheet capacity, and BIG!! By that I
mean a good sized basket underneath. Every shredder I look at now
has the basket built in and safety locked. But the baskets are small!
I shred EVERYTHING, not just the important stuff, gives thiefs about
900% more to look through and peice back together. I would love a
machine that is about 30-36 inches tall VS the 18-20" that i'm
seeing. Hell 40-48" would be OK, I can still reach it from my desk
chair.

I did find tall models like this but they were over $1000.00

Thank You,
Randy

Remove 333 from email address to reply.

I got a Fellowes DM12Ct at Costco for about $99 and I'm quite happy with
it. It has plenty of power to munch the thick credit card offer
envelopes full of crap without opening them. Also does CD/DVD/BD, etc.
The machine is about 24" tall or so and notable heavy at the shredder
mechanism. The lower portion and basket is around the size of a standard
office trash can (10 gal size?).

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:39:57 -0700, Winston wrote:
On 7/15/2010 11:26 AM, Steve B wrote:
....
BE SURE TO GET THE CONFETTI TYPE. There are readers and computer
programs out there now that can read and reassemble strips from strip
shredded documents.

OP referred to 'cross-cut' shredding, so already was looking,
I think, for what you refer to as 'confetti type'.

....
I'm envisioning an 'open source' shredder. 'Way overbuilt.
Interdigitated banks of hardened tool steel punches of various sizes
convert up to 10 sheets per pass into small pieces of random shapes.

Here is a use for that 1 HP gear motor you've been saving!

By 'interdigitated', do you mean that punches would be
operating from both sides of the paper? I suppose that
would avoid the need to make dies as well as punches.

Another approach would be to adapt an inexpensive wood planer*
either by substituting a long stack of slitting saws on an axle
in place of the cutterhead (ie, part #53 of HF 95082, or part
#22 of HF 39860) or substituting serrated blades in place of the
straight planer blades. How keep it from jamming, or from
letting pages go thru uncut, are details left to the reader.

* Like http://www.harborfreight.com/13-inch-industrial-planer-39860.html or
http://www.harborfreight.com/2-1-2-half-hp-12-inch-planer-with-dust-collection-95082.html

Where only the top inch of lots of pages needed shredding, I've used
a wood-cutting bandsaw for trimming that part off of two-inch thick
stacks of pages, to cut down on volume through the shredder itself.
When you start with a ton of paper, the "shred everything" advice
given in some other posts doesn't make sense.

--
jiw

On 7/18/2010 10:12 AM, James Waldby wrote:

(...)

By 'interdigitated', do you mean that punches would be
operating from both sides of the paper? I suppose that
would avoid the need to make dies as well as punches.

I was thinking 'interleaved', like:
http://www.microwiremesh.com/templat...forated_02.jpg

Here is another role for that GE diamond plating process!

The resulting donor sheets could be shredded by a conventional crosscut.
Two separate bins would allow you to dispose of the holes this week
and the remainder of the sheet next week.

I can't envision how punching from both sides would work, unless
one had solid punches that mated with hollow punches....

Another approach would be to adapt an inexpensive wood planer*
either by substituting a long stack of slitting saws on an axle
in place of the cutterhead (ie, part #53 of HF 95082, or part
#22 of HF 39860) or substituting serrated blades in place of the
straight planer blades. How keep it from jamming, or from
letting pages go thru uncut, are details left to the reader.

* Likehttp://www.harborfreight.com/13-inch-industrial-planer-39860.html or
http://www.harborfreight.com/2-1-2-half-hp-12-inch-planer-with-dust-collection-95082.html

Where only the top inch of lots of pages needed shredding, I've used
a wood-cutting bandsaw for trimming that part off of two-inch thick
stacks of pages, to cut down on volume through the shredder itself.
When you start with a ton of paper, the "shred everything" advice
given in some other posts doesn't make sense.


Perhaps an outdoor approach using parallel plasma beams?
That way you could extract the resulting gas and use it to power
the shredder!

--Winston

On 2010-07-18, Winston wrote:
On 7/18/2010 10:12 AM, James Waldby wrote:

(...)

By 'interdigitated', do you mean that punches would be
operating from both sides of the paper? I suppose that
would avoid the need to make dies as well as punches.

I was thinking 'interleaved', like:
http://www.microwiremesh.com/templat...forated_02.jpg

Here is another role for that GE diamond plating process!

The resulting donor sheets could be shredded by a conventional crosscut.
Two separate bins would allow you to dispose of the holes this week
and the remainder of the sheet next week.

I can't envision how punching from both sides would work, unless
one had solid punches that mated with hollow punches....

The "Intimus 007" shredders which I used had two rotating bars,
one above the sheet and one below.

Each bar consisted of alternating larger diameter and smaller
diameter discs. These cut the paper into narrow strips.

The discs had notches and mating projections which would cut the
strips into short pieces.

IIRC, they were not considered secure enough to shred
microfiche, because the chips could have readable sentences in them, so
those had to go to a ball mill to be pulverized instead. But for
printed paper, they were quite satisfactory.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 7/18/2010 5:58 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote:

(...)

The "Intimus 007" shredders which I used had two rotating bars,
one above the sheet and one below.

Motor: 10 HP
Electrical: 220 V
Weight: 1600 lbs
US $19,695.00 used

Now That's a Shredda!

--Winston

lj;lkj;lkj;lkj;lkj;lkj;lkj
"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
...
On 2010-07-18, Winston wrote:
On 7/18/2010 10:12 AM, James Waldby wrote:

(...)

By 'interdigitated', do you mean that punches would be
operating from both sides of the paper? I suppose that
would avoid the need to make dies as well as punches.

I was thinking 'interleaved', like:
http://www.microwiremesh.com/templat...forated_02.jpg

Here is another role for that GE diamond plating process!

The resulting donor sheets could be shredded by a conventional crosscut.
Two separate bins would allow you to dispose of the holes this week
and the remainder of the sheet next week.

I can't envision how punching from both sides would work, unless
one had solid punches that mated with hollow punches....

The "Intimus 007" shredders which I used had two rotating bars,
one above the sheet and one below.

Each bar consisted of alternating larger diameter and smaller
diameter discs. These cut the paper into narrow strips.

The discs had notches and mating projections which would cut the
strips into short pieces.

IIRC, they were not considered secure enough to shred
microfiche, because the chips could have readable sentences in them, so
those had to go to a ball mill to be pulverized instead. But for
printed paper, they were quite satisfactory.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Winston wrote:
On 7/15/2010 11:26 AM, Steve B wrote:

(...)

BE SURE TO GET THE CONFETTI TYPE. There are readers and computer
programs
out there now that can read and reassemble strips from strip shredded
documents.

Are we not metalworkers?

I'm envisioning an 'open source' shredder.
'Way overbuilt. Interdigitated banks of hardened tool steel
punches of various sizes convert up to 10 sheets per pass
into small pieces of random shapes.

Here is a use for that 1 HP gear motor you've been saving!

LOL Winston, great minds think alike!

On 7/19/2010 1:55 PM, RBnDFW wrote:
Winston wrote:

(...)

Here is a use for that 1 HP gear motor you've been saving!

LOL Winston, great minds think alike!

Proof - of - concept machine is already running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_bd...eature=related



--Winston

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:14:52 -0700, Winston
wrote:

On 7/19/2010 1:55 PM, RBnDFW wrote:
Winston wrote:

(...)

Here is a use for that 1 HP gear motor you've been saving!

LOL Winston, great minds think alike!

Proof - of - concept machine is already running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_bd...eature=related



--Winston


Where are the guards!!!!!!??????

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:55:55 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote the following:

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:14:52 -0700, Winston
wrote:

On 7/19/2010 1:55 PM, RBnDFW wrote:
Winston wrote:

(...)

Here is a use for that 1 HP gear motor you've been saving!

LOL Winston, great minds think alike!

Proof - of - concept machine is already running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_bd...eature=related



--Winston


Where are the guards!!!!!!??????

Surrounding the building as we speak, Win.

--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711

On 7/20/2010 7:48 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:55:55 -0700, Gunner
wrote the following:

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:14:52 -0700,
wrote:

On 7/19/2010 1:55 PM, RBnDFW wrote:
Winston wrote:

(...)

Here is a use for that 1 HP gear motor you've been saving!

LOL Winston, great minds think alike!

Proof - of - concept machine is already running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_bd...eature=related



--Winston


Where are the guards!!!!!!??????

Surrounding the building as we speak, Win.

Hey it's a prototype. Whaddaya want?



--Winston -- Yes. I am kidding.

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:00:35 -0400, Existential Angst wrote:
"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...
I have a staples branded unit, 16 sheet, "titanium cutter" - this is much
better than the fellows it replaced and cuts much smaller so it's more
secure - and it cuts faster - could be worth a look

BOYCOTT STAPLES!!
Staples is to stationery what HD is to home repair.

I'm boycotting Staples because one day the Muzak was playing annoyingly
loud, offensive, racist hate-rap noise.

Cheers!
Rich

Rich the Cynic on Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:06:54 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:00:35 -0400, Existential Angst wrote:
"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...
I have a staples branded unit, 16 sheet, "titanium cutter" - this is much
better than the fellows it replaced and cuts much smaller so it's more
secure - and it cuts faster - could be worth a look

BOYCOTT STAPLES!!
Staples is to stationery what HD is to home repair.

I'm boycotting Staples because one day the Muzak was playing annoyingly
loud, offensive, racist hate-rap noise.

Have you told them? Told them that you find their piped morally
offensive, and will not patronize their establishments because of
that?

When a company loses business due to bad customer service, very
often they don't know that they have, or why.
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Rich the Cynic on Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:06:54 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:00:35 -0400, Existential Angst wrote:
"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...
I have a staples branded unit, 16 sheet, "titanium cutter" - this is much
better than the fellows it replaced and cuts much smaller so it's more
secure - and it cuts faster - could be worth a look

BOYCOTT STAPLES!!
Staples is to stationery what HD is to home repair.

I'm boycotting Staples because one day the Muzak was playing annoyingly
loud, offensive, racist hate-rap noise.

Have you told them? Told them that you find their piped morally
offensive, and will not patronize their establishments because of
that?

When a company loses business due to bad customer service, very
often they don't know that they have, or why.


I've walked out of stores because of loud and offensive music. When
I told the manager why I was leaving, they told me they didn't care. I
was rudely informed that they would listen to whatever they wanted to.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

"Michael A. Terrell" on Sun, 25 Jul 2010
02:01:30 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Rich the Cynic on Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:06:54 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:00:35 -0400, Existential Angst wrote:
"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...
I have a staples branded unit, 16 sheet, "titanium cutter" - this is much
better than the fellows it replaced and cuts much smaller so it's more
secure - and it cuts faster - could be worth a look

BOYCOTT STAPLES!!
Staples is to stationery what HD is to home repair.

I'm boycotting Staples because one day the Muzak was playing annoyingly
loud, offensive, racist hate-rap noise.

Have you told them? Told them that you find their piped morally
offensive, and will not patronize their establishments because of
that?

When a company loses business due to bad customer service, very
often they don't know that they have, or why.


I've walked out of stores because of loud and offensive music. When
I told the manager why I was leaving, they told me they didn't care. I
was rudely informed that they would listen to whatever they wanted to.

In that case, say "fine - and I shall tell random strangers that
your company sucks. See if I care."
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

pyotr filipivich wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" on Sun, 25 Jul 2010
02:01:30 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Rich the Cynic on Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:06:54 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:00:35 -0400, Existential Angst wrote:
"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...
I have a staples branded unit, 16 sheet, "titanium cutter" - this is much
better than the fellows it replaced and cuts much smaller so it's more
secure - and it cuts faster - could be worth a look

BOYCOTT STAPLES!!
Staples is to stationery what HD is to home repair.

I'm boycotting Staples because one day the Muzak was playing annoyingly
loud, offensive, racist hate-rap noise.

Have you told them? Told them that you find their piped morally
offensive, and will not patronize their establishments because of
that?

When a company loses business due to bad customer service, very
often they don't know that they have, or why.


I've walked out of stores because of loud and offensive music. When
I told the manager why I was leaving, they told me they didn't care. I
was rudely informed that they would listen to whatever they wanted to.

In that case, say "fine - and I shall tell random strangers that
your company sucks. See if I care."


I do tell people why I won't deal with any business that is run by
morons.

--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

"Michael A. Terrell" on Mon, 26 Jul 2010
04:41:19 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

I've walked out of stores because of loud and offensive music. When
I told the manager why I was leaving, they told me they didn't care. I
was rudely informed that they would listen to whatever they wanted to.

In that case, say "fine - and I shall tell random strangers that
your company sucks. See if I care."

I do tell people why I won't deal with any business that is run by
morons.

I recall a cartoon series, where the Professor was explaining
"negative ratings" "That is when people call random strangers to tell
them not to watch the show."

Which reminds me, I should call up the one tire co, and tell them
why I took my business elsewhere. I don't mind "slow", I do mind
"ignore the guy parked in front of the bay." Doesn't take much a
simple "I'll be right with you, sir." will suffice.
But if they didn't want to acknowledge my presence, it wasn't like
I was being rude by leaving, nicht wahr?

--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

pyotr filipivich wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" on Mon, 26 Jul 2010
04:41:19 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
I've walked out of stores because of loud and offensive music. When
I told the manager why I was leaving, they told me they didn't care. I
was rudely informed that they would listen to whatever they wanted to.
In that case, say "fine - and I shall tell random strangers that
your company sucks. See if I care."
I do tell people why I won't deal with any business that is run by
morons.

I recall a cartoon series, where the Professor was explaining
"negative ratings" "That is when people call random strangers to tell
them not to watch the show."

Which reminds me, I should call up the one tire co, and tell them
why I took my business elsewhere. I don't mind "slow", I do mind
"ignore the guy parked in front of the bay." Doesn't take much a
simple "I'll be right with you, sir." will suffice.
But if they didn't want to acknowledge my presence, it wasn't like
I was being rude by leaving, nicht wahr?

I stood at a Popeye's Fried Chicken counter for about 10 minutes with
employees scurrying around avoiding eye-contact. I noticed the guy
behind me had given up so I did too.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt that same day and tried the
drive-thru on my way home from work. Parked in front of the speaker was
an older compact car, driver's door open, no driver. After looking
around, I honked. Some guy came out the back door retrieved something
from the car, went back inside. So I left again.
Later on, I decided the company should know about this situation, so
I got on the corporate website and found the contacts page, clicked on
"email us". Up pops a form that wants to know everything but my bank
account number. No thanks. No more Popeye's Fried Chicken for me.

pyotr filipivich wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" on Mon, 26 Jul 2010
04:41:19 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

I've walked out of stores because of loud and offensive music. When
I told the manager why I was leaving, they told me they didn't care. I
was rudely informed that they would listen to whatever they wanted to.

In that case, say "fine - and I shall tell random strangers that
your company sucks. See if I care."

I do tell people why I won't deal with any business that is run by
morons.

I recall a cartoon series, where the Professor was explaining
"negative ratings" "That is when people call random strangers to tell
them not to watch the show."

Which reminds me, I should call up the one tire co, and tell them
why I took my business elsewhere. I don't mind "slow", I do mind
"ignore the guy parked in front of the bay." Doesn't take much a
simple "I'll be right with you, sir." will suffice.
But if they didn't want to acknowledge my presence, it wasn't like
I was being rude by leaving, nicht wahr?


Do it. If people don't complain, they think their flunkies are doing
ther job.

RBnDFW wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" on Mon, 26 Jul 2010
04:41:19 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
I've walked out of stores because of loud and offensive music. When
I told the manager why I was leaving, they told me they didn't care. I
was rudely informed that they would listen to whatever they wanted to.
In that case, say "fine - and I shall tell random strangers that
your company sucks. See if I care."
I do tell people why I won't deal with any business that is run by
morons.

I recall a cartoon series, where the Professor was explaining
"negative ratings" "That is when people call random strangers to tell
them not to watch the show."

Which reminds me, I should call up the one tire co, and tell them
why I took my business elsewhere. I don't mind "slow", I do mind
"ignore the guy parked in front of the bay." Doesn't take much a
simple "I'll be right with you, sir." will suffice.
But if they didn't want to acknowledge my presence, it wasn't like
I was being rude by leaving, nicht wahr?

I stood at a Popeye's Fried Chicken counter for about 10 minutes with
employees scurrying around avoiding eye-contact. I noticed the guy
behind me had given up so I did too.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt that same day and tried the
drive-thru on my way home from work. Parked in front of the speaker was
an older compact car, driver's door open, no driver. After looking
around, I honked. Some guy came out the back door retrieved something
from the car, went back inside. So I left again.
Later on, I decided the company should know about this situation, so
I got on the corporate website and found the contacts page, clicked on
"email us". Up pops a form that wants to know everything but my bank
account number. No thanks. No more Popeye's Fried Chicken for me.


I stood for about 15 minutes at a local Arby's, with a dozen
employees running around. ignoring me I'm diabetic, and was getting
light headed so I didn't have time to keep waiting. I went down the
street to another fast food place and hd my food in under two minutes.

A week or two later I stopped at a different Arby's and got great
service. They had a new manager who introduced himself. I asked if the
other restaurant was owned by the same franchisee, then told him about
how bad it was run. He called his boss to report the problem. After
that, they had a lot of new faces behind the counter.

You've got diabetes, and you don't have food in the car with you every
day of the week? So you take your lightheaded dizzy, and go out and
drive the car again?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
m...

I stood for about 15 minutes at a local Arby's, with a dozen
employees running around. ignoring me I'm diabetic, and was getting
light headed so I didn't have time to keep waiting. I went down the
street to another fast food place and hd my food in under two minutes.

A week or two later I stopped at a different Arby's and got great
service. They had a new manager who introduced himself. I asked if
the
other restaurant was owned by the same franchisee, then told him about
how bad it was run. He called his boss to report the problem. After
that, they had a lot of new faces behind the counter.

Stormin Mormon wrote:

You've got diabetes, and you don't have food in the car with you every
day of the week? So you take your lightheaded dizzy, and go out and
drive the car again?

I don't drive every day. Usually only once or twice a week, and only
long enough to get groceries or see a doctor. Sometimes I don't leave
the house for weeks at a time.

I was stuck somewhere for four hours longer than I was supposed to
be. (So much for setting an appointment) I had already used the snack I
had with me. The other restaurant was a half block away and I figured I
had about 10 to 15 minutes to get something to eat, or pass out.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.