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If you want even greater security for material you shred, I suggest two
ideas. #1 Always mix the material in the shredder and empty part of it into the trash, leaving maybe a third. This will mean that unless someone gets your trash ever week, they are not likely to get a full document. I imagine that would be very frustrating. :-) #2 Got a cat or dog? Add the you know what to the trash back with the shred. It would discourage me. I do follow my first suggestion. Not that I really think I need to worry, but I do get a little smile thinking of the possibility of some homeland security team working weeks trying to figure out what is going on. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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cross cut shredders are muc more expensive, chop everything into little
squares that would take days to reassemble. i have a wealthy friend he shreds them then burns them. kinda overkill if you ask me. I think for most of us security issues are overblown, true it could create a BIG hassle but wouldnt long term be anything more than that |
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We burn all of our documents, not very hard to go out to the garden and sit
around a nice relaxing evidence burn, errr, I mean document burn!! searcher |
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Searcher wrote:
We burn all of our documents, not very hard to go out to the garden and sit around a nice relaxing evidence burn, errr, I mean document burn!! searcher Well, that may be ok sometimes. Here in Oklahoma this last week end they finally lifted the burn ban that has been in effect since November. Kind of hard to burn your papers when you aren't allowed a fire of any kind (including outdoor barbecues). Bill Gill |
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On 25 Mar 2006 05:30:10 -0800, "
wrote: cross cut shredders are muc more expensive, chop everything into little squares that would take days to reassemble. Remember the Iranian "Students" who kidnapped the US Embassy Staff and held them hostage in about 1979? They actually raided the embassy shredders (not cross-cut) and reconstructed what they said were CIA documents by pasting the strips together. Expensive? I have a cross cut shredder that I bought at Target two years ago for $17. It still works... Beachcomber |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:10:22 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
wrote: If you want even greater security for material you shred, I suggest two ideas. #1 Always mix the material in the shredder and empty part of it into the trash, leaving maybe a third. This will mean that unless someone gets your trash ever week, they are not likely to get a full document. I imagine that would be very frustrating. :-) #2 Got a cat or dog? Add the you know what to the trash back with the shred. It would discourage me. I do follow my first suggestion. Not that I really think I need to worry, but I do get a little smile thinking of the possibility of some homeland security team working weeks trying to figure out what is going on. I've heard people say, add it to your compost heap, well mixed in. This way the worms will eat it, and effectivly the material is completely distroyed. Unless the worms talk? later, tom @ www.Consolidated-Loans.info |
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In article ,
says... If you want even greater security for material you shred, I suggest two ideas. Why waste shredder output? It makes good garden mulch, and it's good for starting fires, barbecues, etc. -- is Joshua Putnam http://www.phred.org/~josh/ Braze your own bicycle frames. See http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html |
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You ALL should read this article:
http://www.cockeyed.com/citizen/cred...lication.shtml It's about a guy who ripped up a credit card application that came in the mail, taped it up, sent it out and GOT THE CARD!! He even changed the address and phone number on the application and got it! It makes me want to by a cross cut. |
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Bill Gill wrote:
Searcher wrote: We burn all of our documents, not very hard to go out to the garden and sit around a nice relaxing evidence burn, errr, I mean document burn!! searcher Well, that may be ok sometimes. Here in Oklahoma this last week end they finally lifted the burn ban that has been in effect since November. Kind of hard to burn your papers when you aren't allowed a fire of any kind (including outdoor barbecues). Bill Gill We have a cross-cut shredder, which cost less than $100 if I remember. For special documents, I put them through the shredder and then the kitchen sink with some hot water. Soak few minutes, run disposal. I dare anyone to find them ) |
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There is another thread in this group that is discussing ways to
dispose of old paint. Might I suggest that one pour it in among a large group of shreddings to dry out before trashing, take care of two problems at once.-Jitney |
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what you do is crosscut shred everything twice, then burn it. take the
ashes and mix with water and blend in a blender, then place blended mix in garbage disposal, ands be sure to flush toilet with you knowq what Really theres so many ways to get info on you, paper is obsolete. Use a wireless connection for your computer? Have good spyware on your computer, how about ALL the companies you deal with? Leaks can occur anywhere. A nosey bank custodian. How about the mail system. Sure be careful with paperwork but the REAL leaks are high tech and out of your control |
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On 25 Mar 2006 05:30:10 -0800, "
wrote: cross cut shredders are muc more expensive, chop everything into little squares that would take days to reassemble. i have a wealthy friend he shreds them then burns them. kinda overkill if you ask me. I was thinking I would burn them and then shred them. I think for most of us security issues are overblown, true it could create a BIG hassle but wouldnt long term be anything more than that |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:58:19 -0500, mm
wrote: | On 25 Mar 2006 05:30:10 -0800, " | wrote: | | cross cut shredders are muc more expensive, chop everything into little | squares that would take days to reassemble. | | i have a wealthy friend he shreds them then burns them. kinda overkill | if you ask me. | | I was thinking I would burn them and then shred them. I burn them, shred them, put them through my wood chipper, and then beat them with a shovel. Then I move to a different country and change my name. Works every time. | | I think for most of us security issues are overblown, true it could | create a BIG hassle but wouldnt long term be anything more than that | |
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In article ,
"Joseph Meehan" wrote: If you want even greater security for material you shred, I suggest two ideas. #1 Always mix the material in the shredder and empty part of it into the trash, leaving maybe a third. This will mean that unless someone gets your trash ever week, they are not likely to get a full document. I imagine that would be very frustrating. :-) #2 Got a cat or dog? Add the you know what to the trash back with the shred. It would discourage me. I do follow my first suggestion. Not that I really think I need to worry, but I do get a little smile thinking of the possibility of some homeland security team working weeks trying to figure out what is going on. A couple of things I do... 1) I dump shredded documents straight into the garbage without a bag... that way someone can't easily just grab a bag and run. 2) I always dump them just before the trash truck comes. Not fool proof, but adds a couple of easy, effective free toughening protection layers. 3) I have a pair of 10" long sheet metal snips I keep in my desk to chop up old back up CD's, credit card's and the like. Cutting stuff like that is easy with them. BTW, a 'safer' cleaner way bust a CD in a pinch is to put it in the middle of a magazine, or newspaper section before flexing and snapping. I actually caught some of my competition going through my trash late one night. Those drive up post office mail boxes I think are dangerous too. They get full and the mail backs up the chute to where anyone can grab it. If your in a low car, you often can't even see if the mail is backing up. I've seen mail literally hanging out these boxes, and people there trying to jam in more... amazing. |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:38:10 GMT, "Pop"
wrote: Not necessary here. Strip shred it, pull the trash bags, burn with the rest of the trash. If someone wants to steal it and piece together my last electric bill, they should have asked me! I have nothing to hide and know how to prevent identity theft. Not that I have anything to thieve. Or hide. I'm sure that is true of you, but I like the story from a few years ago. A man was doing something bad, stealing from the company or something. Some woman would take his trash bags, leaving dummy trash bags of the same brand in their place. Then she would go home and glue the strips to a backing until she found out what they said, and I forget what he was doing but he got caught for it. |
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On 25 Mar 2006 16:05:35 -0800, "
wrote: what you do is crosscut shred everything twice, then burn it. take the ashes and mix with water and blend in a blender, then place blended mix in garbage disposal, ands be sure to flush toilet with you knowq what Really theres so many ways to get info on you, paper is obsolete. Use a wireless connection for your computer? Have good spyware on your computer, So you actually WANT spyware? Something reminds me of wanting a bulletproof suit, and going out to buy a gun instead. :-) how about ALL the companies you deal with? Leaks can occur anywhere. A nosey bank custodian. How about the mail system. Sure be careful with paperwork but the REAL leaks are high tech and out of your control -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:30:59 -0700, Random Netizen
wrote: In article .com, says... Sure be careful with paperwork but the REAL leaks are high tech and out of your control Perhaps, but many cases of identity theft can be traced back to careless disposal of paper-based information. Some people are unable to think about more than ONE security threat. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:50:50 -0500, Tom wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:10:22 GMT, "Joseph Meehan" wrote: If you want even greater security for material you shred, I suggest two ideas. #1 Always mix the material in the shredder and empty part of it into the trash, leaving maybe a third. This will mean that unless someone gets your trash ever week, they are not likely to get a full document. I imagine that would be very frustrating. :-) #2 Got a cat or dog? Add the you know what to the trash back with the shred. It would discourage me. I do follow my first suggestion. Not that I really think I need to worry, but I do get a little smile thinking of the possibility of some homeland security team working weeks trying to figure out what is going on. I've heard people say, add it to your compost heap, well mixed in. This way the worms will eat it, and effectivly the material is completely distroyed. Unless the worms talk? I didn't know that worms could read. later, tom @ www.Consolidated-Loans.info -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:13:31 GMT, Erik wrote:
I actually caught some of my competition going through my trash late one night. Wow. What do you do for a living? Those drive up post office mail boxes I think are dangerous too. They get full and the mail backs up the chute to where anyone can grab it. If your in a low car, you often can't even see if the mail is backing up. I've seen mail literally hanging out these boxes, and people there trying to jam in more... amazing. They don't anticipate problems. Neither do I most of the time, but I would consider leaving the mail hanging out to be "Put[ting] a stumbling block before the blind." Tempting someone to commit a crime by making it very easy. Can't do it. |
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I actually caught some of my competition going through my trash late one
night. Wow. What do you do for a living? I consult. Those drive up post office mail boxes I think are dangerous too. They get full and the mail backs up the chute to where anyone can grab it. If your in a low car, you often can't even see if the mail is backing up. I've seen mail literally hanging out these boxes, and people there trying to jam in more... amazing. They don't anticipate problems. Neither do I most of the time, but I would consider leaving the mail hanging out to be "Put[ting] a stumbling block before the blind." Tempting someone to commit a crime by making it very easy. Can't do it. I just thought it to be amazing anyone anyone would leave their mail (or anything for all that matter) accessible like that.... Erik |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:13:41 -0600, Bill Gill
wrote: Searcher wrote: We burn all of our documents, not very hard to go out to the garden and sit around a nice relaxing evidence burn, errr, I mean document burn!! searcher Well, that may be ok sometimes. Here in Oklahoma this last week end they finally lifted the burn ban that has been in effect since November. Kind of hard to burn your papers when you aren't allowed a fire of any kind (including outdoor barbecues). That's why my house has a chimney. |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:50:50 -0500, Tom wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:10:22 GMT, "Joseph Meehan" wrote: If you want even greater security for material you shred, I suggest two ideas. #1 Always mix the material in the shredder and empty part of it into the trash, leaving maybe a third. This will mean that unless someone gets your trash ever week, they are not likely to get a full document. I imagine that would be very frustrating. :-) #2 Got a cat or dog? Add the you know what to the trash back with the shred. It would discourage me. I do follow my first suggestion. Not that I really think I need to worry, but I do get a little smile thinking of the possibility of some homeland security team working weeks trying to figure out what is going on. I've heard people say, add it to your compost heap, well mixed in. This way the worms will eat it, and effectivly the material is completely distroyed. Unless the worms talk? Fine, unless you use your compost on your vegetable garden, in which case you'll want to know what chemicals are in the assorted inks, and what the uptake-rate is for your plants. |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:46:42 GMT, Erik wrote:
I actually caught some of my competition going through my trash late one night. Wow. What do you do for a living? I consult. They pay you to do that! I would have thought people consult you. |
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Someone suggested mixing the shreddings with cat litter throwaways.
Why not use the shreddings in the litterbox for litter?-Jitney |
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Anything that has my name and address on it gets shredded, even junk mail if
it isn't addressed to "Resident"... Bills and such that might have account numbers or junk mail that might be offering credit cards get shredded and then put in a 5g plastic bucket that I fill with water and pulp the mixture for a few days... I have a paint / sheetrock mud mixing blade that I put in my drill and use to stir it up... The shaft of the device comes through a hole in the 5g bucket so that it doesn't make a mess... Sometimes I'll take this mixture and mix with concrete if I'm building something -- a quart of it added to an 80 lb bag of concrete doesn't affect it much, especially if it's just concrete fill for a CMU (aka "cinder block")... Sometimes I'll mix it up with the dirt in the landscaping beds... Sometimes I'll just throw some of it in a plastic grocery bag, wait for the water to leak out of it, and then throw the semi-dry mass away... The term for it is "pulping" I seriously doubt that anyone could piece together the fibers of the slurry and make anything out of it... The advantage of it over burning is that you can deposit the paper bits into the existing slurry mix, run the mixer for a minute or so and forget about it... Burning requires you to monitor the burn process, stirring it frequently so that everything turns to ash, not just charred paper bits... Of course, you could periodically flush a cup of the slurry every time you went to the bathroom... I suspect mixing it with your landscaping soil is more ecologically sound, albeit not as convenient as a flush... grin |
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