On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:13:52 GMT, Michael
wrote:

But the State that issued this guy an OFFICIAL Permit failed to check
him out? How is that anyone else's fault? Does this State Gov't just
collect dollars for PERMITS or do even regulate what is going on?

A States Government MUST be responsible when it issues PERMITS. Issuing
PERMITS to go hunting with firearms should NEVER be a Random Act!

Should drivers licenses be given to just anybody that can fog a mirror?
Surely a gun has a great possiblity of responsibility?
Why monitor drivers and not GUN PERMITS?

Sorry, this is that State Govt's responsibility .

So NOW you are FOR gun control?

LMAO !!!
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Cliff

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:38:24 GMT, Michael
wrote:

If a home invader comes in with a hand grenade, that assault weapon
would be very useful.

Paper ..... scissors .... rock .......
So you are saying he needed more guns?

IIRC The hand grenade wins over a nest of machine guns ....
don't knw about paper though ...
Don't you need Nukes?
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Cliff

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 03:32:26 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Care to give me the numbers of people killed or wounded by Assault
Weapons in 2003? Pick any year in the last 5. Post your cites.

So you are saying that gun control works? And that guns are
a danger to the public?
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Cliff

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 03:37:45 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Which new and deadly weapons are you talking about John? Both
grenades and self loading rifles have been around for over 100 yrs.

Which is why everyone should have piles of them in their bunkers?

What if they go off & spoil the kibble?
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Cliff

Cliff wrote:

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Cliff, do you *ever* post anything to do with metalworking?

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:00:23 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Werent you one of the guys who was bitching about the loss of
freedoms because of the Patriot Act?

So a few Uzi-bangers with hand grenades is the answer?
What bunker are you from? Is it dark in there?
--
Cliff

On 23-Nov-2004, Cliff wrote:

Care to give me the numbers of people killed or wounded by Assault
Weapons in 2003? Pick any year in the last 5. Post your cites.

So you are saying that gun control works? And that guns are
a danger to the public?

Misuse of so-called "assault weapons" by criminals was statistically
insignificant *before* the so-called "ban" and they have *never* been a
serious problem for law enforcement. *Criminals* are a danger to the public
and *guns in the hands of lawful citizens* are a danger to criminals.

Do you post in talk.politics.guns? If not, is it because there are too many
2nd Amendment supporters with too many facts to counteract your blind hatred
of guns and freedom?

Cliff, you never directly confront the point. Why? It's obvious you have
nothing to bring to the table except blind, unreasoning hatred of the
Constitution, freedom, and democracy. Talking to you is a waste of time. You
will never succeed. You will remain an insignificant loser. Au revoir.

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:02:47 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Tell that to all the folks that died last year from being stabbed to
death with kitchen knives.

How may idiot wingers keep claiming that they make
you safer? From other idiots .....
--
Cliff

Cliff wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:00:23 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Werent you one of the guys who was bitching about the loss of
freedoms because of the Patriot Act?

So a few Uzi-bangers with hand grenades is the answer?
What bunker are you from? Is it dark in there?

Check the news, six people killed in Wisconsin by a kook with a 20
round magazine in an assault rifle clone. Had the laws not been
changed to allow this idocy, maybe there wouldn't have been so many.
Legal in Wisconsin used to be no more than three in the clip, one in
the chamber. Shotguns, two in the mag and one in the chamber. That's
six people murdered by an out of state kook with a kooks weapon.
Justify that. (The old laws used to be balanced by practicality, not
radical paranoia from gun freaks.) Several others wounded, and among
the dead and wounded, only one, sporting type deer rifle. One woman
included, shot off the back of an ATV, and again, only ONE had a
rifle. Real men with guns shoot at unarmed women. typical
conservative action.