On 12/01/2017 21:25, T wrote:
On 01/12/2017 01:00 PM, Bod wrote:
On 12/01/2017 20:37, T wrote:
On 01/12/2017 12:29 PM, Bod wrote:
On 12/01/2017 20:25, T wrote:
On 01/12/2017 12:20 PM, Bod wrote:
That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you
need to
carry a gun?

Do you even think these things through before you say them?

Why wear a seat belt? You afraid of getting in a crash?

No, because it's the law. I'd rather not wear one.

Well, now it is making more sense. Your don't plan
for the unexpected eventuality and do not take precautions.

Does not explain why you only care about insurrection weapons
though. You have another agenda.

It's illegal to carry a gun in the UK.
I have no agenda.

Oh brother. You only care about insurrection weapons.
That is an agenda

I want a discussion, but a few of you just give knee jerk replies.
The only difference between us is your gun culture.
When you're brought up without a gun culture here, it's very hard to
imagine why one would want to even think of carrying one.
It's totally alien to us.

Try to remember that if I got caught carrying a handgun in the UK, I'd
be looking at an automatic *minimum* of 5 years in jail.
It's that strict.

"Bod" wrote in message
...

We carry them for the same reason we wear seat belts. It is
prudence, not fear.

That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you need
to carry a gun?

First of all, very few of the people who own guns carry them. Other than
police, of course.

Secondly, owning a gun and having it available is rather like havong money
in the bank...you may not need it now but it is comforting to know it is
there if you need it.

Thirdly, Americans are not frightened. just prudent, as someone said.
However, although I don't walk around trembling in my boots, there are
places - mostly in large cities - where I would not go at night. No one
with a lick of sense would.

In article , says...

First of all, very few of the people who own guns carry them. Other than
police, of course.

snip

Let me throw something in here. I've never carried, open or concealed,
since I got my LTC. I got it so when I want to buy another gun I don't
have to wait for a background check each time and wait to get it. I can
walk into a gun store, buy it, and walk out with my purchase immediately.

--
RonNNN

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:12:36 -0800, T wrote:

On 01/12/2017 12:37 AM, Bod wrote:
On 12/01/2017 03:50, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:04:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

Nothing wrong with guns per se, what I don't get is feeling the need
to have one for protection and especially feeling scared enough to carry
one around in public.

Are all Brits this dense, Bod? I've explained it to you and other
limey's here before, but you keep harping on it. It isn't fear or
needs. We own guns because we WANT to and we CAN. Our gun rights are
a natural born right. Guns are a great investment. Like insurance.
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Forget about your _feelings_, nobody here cares what you "feel". Is
that to much for you to understand?

No, it's you who doesn't get it. You've actually made my point when
you said:
"Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it".

That means you carry a gun because you're frightened someone might pull
a gun on you.

We don't feel frightened enough to carry a gun because we know that
others don't carry them.....get it?
You feel the need to carry a gun for protection, we have that peace of
mind *without* feeling the need to carry one.

Bod,

Do you think these things through before you say them?

We carry guns for the same reason we wear seat belts. We
are not afraid. We are prudent. There is a difference.

Your criminals are starting to carry more guns. And they adore knives.

Plus, you don't give a **** about murder weapons that can not
be used in an insurrection.

Do you even think before saying the above rubbish?

-T

What I said went right over that dense skull of his. No, he doesn't
"think". Thinking is dangerous for him. Well, he is a Brit after all.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +0000, Bod wrote:

We carry them for the same reason we wear seat belts. It is
prudence, not fear.

That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you need
to carry a gun?

Because we can't carry a cop in our pocket. They get heavy after a
time.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:25:50 -0600, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says...

First of all, very few of the people who own guns carry them. Other than
police, of course.

snip

Let me throw something in here. I've never carried, open or concealed,
since I got my LTC. I got it so when I want to buy another gun I don't
have to wait for a background check each time and wait to get it. I can
walk into a gun store, buy it, and walk out with my purchase immediately.

Maybe, but you still go through the National Instant Criminal
Background Check System (NICS) buying from a gun store.

Oren wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +0000, Bod wrote:

We carry them for the same reason we wear seat belts. It is
prudence, not fear.

That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you
need to carry a gun?

Because we can't carry a cop in our pocket. They get heavy after a
time.

Not that this will change anything for the limey troll but
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/good-...i-10/385593774

This would/could not ever happen in his UK

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:25:50 -0600, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says...

First of all, very few of the people who own guns carry them. Other than
police, of course.

snip

Let me throw something in here. I've never carried, open or concealed,
since I got my LTC. I got it so when I want to buy another gun I don't
have to wait for a background check each time and wait to get it. I can
walk into a gun store, buy it, and walk out with my purchase immediately.

Maybe, but you still go through the National Instant Criminal
Background Check System (NICS) buying from a gun store.

Yes, one time. Once you have the LTC subsequent background checks and the
fees and wait times are gone. It did take six weeks to get the LTC
initially, but it saves time and money in the long run for future
purchases.

--
RonNNN

On 12/01/2017 22:25, RonNNN wrote:
In article , says...

First of all, very few of the people who own guns carry them. Other than
police, of course.

snip

Let me throw something in here. I've never carried, open or concealed,
since I got my LTC. I got it so when I want to buy another gun I don't
have to wait for a background check each time and wait to get it. I can
walk into a gun store, buy it, and walk out with my purchase immediately.

That's good to hear that you feel you don't need to carry a gun.

Oren wrote :
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +0000, Bod wrote:

We carry them for the same reason we wear seat belts. It is
prudence, not fear.

That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you need
to carry a gun?

Because we can't carry a cop in our pocket. They get heavy after a
time.

Especially when you've already got a walrus.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:37:18 -0500, FromTheRafters
wrote:

Oren wrote :
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +0000, Bod wrote:

We carry them for the same reason we wear seat belts. It is
prudence, not fear.

That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you need
to carry a gun?

Because we can't carry a cop in our pocket. They get heavy after a
time.

Especially when you've already got a walrus.

Right. Cops do not have an obligation to protect you.

On 01/12/2017 01:53 PM, Bod wrote:
The only difference between us is your gun culture.
When you're brought up without a gun culture here, it's very hard to
imagine why one would want to even think of carrying one.
It's totally alien to us.


Not to your criminals.


Try to remember that if I got caught carrying a handgun in the UK, I'd
be looking at an automatic *minimum* of 5 years in jail.
It's that strict.

You make yourselves into sheep, the wolves will come.

And, you never answered what your agenda was about insurrection weapons.
You obviously don't care about murder weapons.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:36:02 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 10/01/2017 18:13, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:56:35 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

I've got it, but it still seems way OTT to me. No wonder your jails
are so full. Spend more money on rehabilitation and you'll get a
percentage of prisoners who will stop re-offending.

Sure, that works. ROFL

Bod will love this one:

"FRESNO, Calif. - A Fresno man was sentenced to 1,503 years in prison
for raping his teenage daughter over a four-year period, a case that
stands in stark contrast to a recent controversial ruling in a Montana
rape and incest case."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-man-gets-1503-years-in-prison-for-raping-teen-daughter/

Indeed I do! :-)
1503 years is simply ludicrous. If an offender qualifies for life
imprisonment, why not do as we do "will spend the rest of his/her life
in prison with no remission"
It means *exactly* the same.

No point in life imprisonment, might aswell kill them.

--
A fat girl served me in McDonald's at lunchtime. She said "sorry about the wait". I said, "Don't worry, you'll find a way to lose it eventually"

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:48:26 -0800, T wrote:

On 01/12/2017 01:53 PM, Bod wrote:
The only difference between us is your gun culture.
When you're brought up without a gun culture here, it's very hard to
imagine why one would want to even think of carrying one.
It's totally alien to us.


Not to your criminals.


Try to remember that if I got caught carrying a handgun in the UK, I'd
be looking at an automatic *minimum* of 5 years in jail.
It's that strict.

You make yourselves into sheep, the wolves will come.

And, you never answered what your agenda was about insurrection weapons.
You obviously don't care about murder weapons.

Funny thing is when Bod was born the UK had "insurrection weapons".
Then they cowered in the corner, laid down. licked their gonads and
then let the government take them away. They even voted for it think.
shakes head

On 13/01/2017 23:45, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:48:26 -0800, T wrote:

On 01/12/2017 01:53 PM, Bod wrote:
The only difference between us is your gun culture.
When you're brought up without a gun culture here, it's very hard to
imagine why one would want to even think of carrying one.
It's totally alien to us.


Not to your criminals.


Try to remember that if I got caught carrying a handgun in the UK, I'd
be looking at an automatic *minimum* of 5 years in jail.
It's that strict.

You make yourselves into sheep, the wolves will come.

And, you never answered what your agenda was about insurrection weapons.
You obviously don't care about murder weapons.

Funny thing is when Bod was born the UK had "insurrection weapons".
Then they cowered in the corner, laid down. licked their gonads and
then let the government take them away. They even voted for it think.
shakes head

There are 2 million legallly owned shotguns in the UK. Anyone can
apply for one as long as you pass stringent rules to get a licence.
What you definitely can't do is own a handgun or an automatic weapon.

On 01/13/2017 07:55 PM, Bod wrote:
There are 2 million legallly owned shotguns in the UK. Anyone can apply
for one as long as you pass stringent rules to get a licence.
What you definitely can't do is own a handgun or an automatic weapon.

Guess shotguns do not make very good insurrection weapons.
You have done something very foolish to yourselves. The wolves
will be coming.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:09:48 -0800, T wrote:

On 01/13/2017 07:55 PM, Bod wrote:
There are 2 million legallly owned shotguns in the UK. Anyone can apply
for one as long as you pass stringent rules to get a licence.
What you definitely can't do is own a handgun or an automatic weapon.

Guess shotguns do not make very good insurrection weapons.
You have done something very foolish to yourselves. The wolves
will be coming.

In the early parts of WWII the brits begged Americans to give/sell
them anything that would shoot. The arms industry was not capable of
filling those orders so lots of homeowner firearms made their way to
the home guard.
Yamamoto famously said they could never invade the US because "there
would be a gun behind every blade of grass"

On 1/10/2017 12:46 PM, Bod wrote:
I've got it, but it still seems way OTT to me. No wonder your jails are so full. Spend more money on rehabilitation and you'll get a percentage of prisoners who will stop re-offending.
Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me.


From https://www.nij.gov/topics/correctio...s/welcome.aspx :

"Within three years of release, about two-thirds (*67.8 percent*) of released prisoners were rearrested. Within five years of release, about three-quarters (*76.6 percent*) of released prisoners were rearrested. Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more
than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year."


So as you can see, rehabilitation has a very poor success rate. OTOH, capital punishment is a 100% cure. Never a repeat offender.

On 15/01/2017 15:44, Jake Ballard wrote:
On 1/10/2017 12:46 PM, Bod wrote:
I've got it, but it still seems way OTT to me. No wonder your jails
are so full. Spend more money on rehabilitation and you'll get a
percentage of prisoners who will stop re-offending.
Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me.


From https://www.nij.gov/topics/correctio...s/welcome.aspx :

"Within three years of release, about two-thirds (*67.8 percent*) of
released prisoners were rearrested. Within five years of release, about
three-quarters (*76.6 percent*) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent)
were arrested by the end of the first year."


So as you can see, rehabilitation has a very poor success rate. OTOH,
capital punishment is a 100% cure. Never a repeat offender.


But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?

On 1/15/2017 10:53 AM, Bod wrote:
On 15/01/2017 15:44, Jake Ballard wrote:
On 1/10/2017 12:46 PM, Bod wrote:
I've got it, but it still seems way OTT to me. No wonder your jails
are so full. Spend more money on rehabilitation and you'll get a
percentage of prisoners who will stop re-offending.
Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me.


From https://www.nij.gov/topics/correctio...s/welcome.aspx :

"Within three years of release, about two-thirds (*67.8 percent*) of
released prisoners were rearrested. Within five years of release, about
three-quarters (*76.6 percent*) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent)
were arrested by the end of the first year."


So as you can see, rehabilitation has a very poor success rate. OTOH,
capital punishment is a 100% cure. Never a repeat offender.


But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?


The US used to have chain-gangs out in the hot sun but the liberal weenies destroyed that rehab program.

On 15/01/2017 16:12, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:
On 1/15/2017 10:53 AM, Bod wrote:
On 15/01/2017 15:44, Jake Ballard wrote:
On 1/10/2017 12:46 PM, Bod wrote:
I've got it, but it still seems way OTT to me. No wonder your jails
are so full. Spend more money on rehabilitation and you'll get a
percentage of prisoners who will stop re-offending.
Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me.


From
https://www.nij.gov/topics/correctio...s/welcome.aspx :

"Within three years of release, about two-thirds (*67.8 percent*) of
released prisoners were rearrested. Within five years of release, about
three-quarters (*76.6 percent*) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent)
were arrested by the end of the first year."


So as you can see, rehabilitation has a very poor success rate. OTOH,
capital punishment is a 100% cure. Never a repeat offender.


But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?


The US used to have chain-gangs out in the hot sun but the liberal
weenies destroyed that rehab program.

:-)

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 11:12:51 -0500, Grumpy Old White Guy
wrote:

But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?

There is not such thing as rehabilitation.

The US used to have chain-gangs out in the hot sun but the liberal weenies destroyed that rehab program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj60OAh7O5U
--
"You can not rehabilitate a person that has never been habilitated!"
-- Convict Guard 101

On 15/01/2017 18:42, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 11:12:51 -0500, Grumpy Old White Guy
wrote:

But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?

There is not such thing as rehabilitation.

The US used to have chain-gangs out in the hot sun but the liberal weenies destroyed that rehab program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj60OAh7O5U

Thankfully.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:53:32 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 15/01/2017 18:42, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 11:12:51 -0500, Grumpy Old White Guy
wrote:

But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?

There is not such thing as rehabilitation.

The US used to have chain-gangs out in the hot sun but the liberal weenies destroyed that rehab program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj60OAh7O5U

Thankfully.

The video above missed part of the scene. This one leads into it :-)
Luke was based on a story from Tampa, Fl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqqjBc0IygM
--
"You can not rehabilitate a person that has never been habilitated!"
-- Convict Guard 101

On 15/01/2017 19:13, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:53:32 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 15/01/2017 18:42, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 11:12:51 -0500, Grumpy Old White Guy
wrote:

But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?

There is not such thing as rehabilitation.

The US used to have chain-gangs out in the hot sun but the liberal weenies destroyed that rehab program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj60OAh7O5U

Thankfully.

The video above missed part of the scene. This one leads into it :-)
Luke was based on a story from Tampa, Fl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqqjBc0IygM

My word! :-)

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:44:08 -0000, Jake Ballard wrote:

On 1/10/2017 12:46 PM, Bod wrote:
I've got it, but it still seems way OTT to me. No wonder your jails are so full. Spend more money on rehabilitation and you'll get a percentage of prisoners who will stop re-offending.
Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me.


From https://www.nij.gov/topics/correctio...s/welcome.aspx :

"Within three years of release, about two-thirds (*67.8 percent*) of released prisoners were rearrested. Within five years of release, about three-quarters (*76.6 percent*) of released prisoners were rearrested. Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more
than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year."


So as you can see, rehabilitation has a very poor success rate. OTOH, capital punishment is a 100% cure. Never a repeat offender.

Agreed. Kill all criminals who get 10 years or more.

--
The best engine in the world is the vagina. It can be started with one finger, self lubricates, takes any sized piston,
then every 4 weeks it does it's own oil change. It's just a pity that the management system is so ****ing temperamental! -- Dr. Hermann Otto Kloepneckler, M.D., Ph.D.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:12:51 -0000, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:

On 1/15/2017 10:53 AM, Bod wrote:
On 15/01/2017 15:44, Jake Ballard wrote:
On 1/10/2017 12:46 PM, Bod wrote:
I've got it, but it still seems way OTT to me. No wonder your jails
are so full. Spend more money on rehabilitation and you'll get a
percentage of prisoners who will stop re-offending.
Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me.


From https://www.nij.gov/topics/correctio...s/welcome.aspx :

"Within three years of release, about two-thirds (*67.8 percent*) of
released prisoners were rearrested. Within five years of release, about
three-quarters (*76.6 percent*) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent)
were arrested by the end of the first year."


So as you can see, rehabilitation has a very poor success rate. OTOH,
capital punishment is a 100% cure. Never a repeat offender.


But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?


The US used to have chain-gangs out in the hot sun but the liberal weenies destroyed that rehab program.

They should work to earn money to run the jail.

--
Why isn;t the apostrophe next to the L? Who ever uses the semicolon???

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:53:32 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 15/01/2017 18:42, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 11:12:51 -0500, Grumpy Old White Guy
wrote:

But are your prisoners actually getting any rehabilitation?

There is not such thing as rehabilitation.

The US used to have chain-gangs out in the hot sun but the liberal weenies destroyed that rehab program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj60OAh7O5U

Thankfully.

You are thankful they stopped chain gangs? Why?

--
My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:19:23 -0000, Meanie wrote:

On 1/10/2017 1:02 PM, Bod wrote:

Hmm, he was sentenced under a Class X felony.I didn't see a
Class X
offence in the list of Class X offences. Habitual offender wasn't
on the
list.

Idiot. He was sentenced under the IL habitual offender law, which
applies
Class X *sentencing* to habitual offenders, who have committed multiple
felonies, are career criminals. There is no reqt that he actually
commit a class X felony. Got it now? Probably not.

I've got it, but it still seems way OTT to me. No wonder your jails
are so full. Spend more money on rehabilitation and you'll get a
percentage of prisoners who will stop re-offending.

Sure, that works. ROFL


Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me.

You're the nut. Nothing we do here is right. If this career criminal
was allowed to go on to his 61st burglary and he wound up surprising
some homeowner, with one or the other winding up dead, why then you'd
be here bitching about that. Enough is enough. Why should 60 families
be traumatized? How'd you like it if he was in your house? The guy
can be out in just 11 years if he wises up and behaves himself.
Perfectly OK with me. He knew the rules, he gambled again, he lost.

Why Norway's prison system is so successful - Business Insider
uk.businessinsider.com/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12
11 Dec 2014 - That makes Norway's incarceration rate just 75 per 100,000
people, ... "Americans want their prisoners punished first and
rehabilitated second.

No, we just want to blow them away. A dead criminal is a guarantee never
to commit another crime.

+1

--
You don't appreciate a lot of stuff in school until you get older.
Little things like being spanked every day by a middle-aged woman.
Stuff you pay good money for later in life. -- Elmo Phillips

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:17:58 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 1/12/2017 3:46 AM, Bod wrote:
On 12/01/2017 09:12, T wrote:
On 01/12/2017 12:37 AM, Bod wrote:
On 12/01/2017 03:50, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:04:54 +0000, Bod wrote:

Nothing wrong with guns per se, what I don't get is feeling the need
to have one for protection and especially feeling scared enough to
carry
one around in public.

Are all Brits this dense, Bod? I've explained it to you and other
limey's here before, but you keep harping on it. It isn't fear or
needs. We own guns because we WANT to and we CAN. Our gun rights are
a natural born right. Guns are a great investment. Like insurance.
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Forget about your _feelings_, nobody here cares what you "feel". Is
that to much for you to understand?

No, it's you who doesn't get it. You've actually made my point when
you said:
"Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it".

That means you carry a gun because you're frightened someone might pull
a gun on you.

We don't feel frightened enough to carry a gun because we know that
others don't carry them.....get it?
You feel the need to carry a gun for protection, we have that peace of
mind *without* feeling the need to carry one.

Bod,

Do you think these things through before you say them?

We carry guns for the same reason we wear seat belts. We
are not afraid. We are prudent. There is a difference.

Your criminals are starting to carry more guns. And they adore knives.

Plus, you don't give a **** about murder weapons that can not
be used in an insurrection.

Do you even think before saying the above rubbish?

-T

Hmm! I'm 68 and have never seen anyone with a gun in public, have never
had one pulled on me or any of my family/friends/neighbours etc.
Likewise with knives. Apart from some gangs in the big cities (who
mainly shoot or stab each other) no one else feels the need to carry a
gun(even in the big cities).

We are the same sort of people as you, but only divided by your gun
culture.

I respect your right to carry guns, but I'll never understand the need
for it.

The times are a changing, even in the UK.

"A poll in the wake of the November 2015 Paris attacks, which claimed
130 victims, found that 58 per cent of people believed British officers
should be armed on patrol.

For more than two years the official threat level for international
terrorism in the UK has stood at severe, meaning an attack is "highly
likely"."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...error-attacks/

Police, yes. General public, no.

--
Acupuncturists do it with a small prick.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:13:42 -0000, T wrote:

On 01/12/2017 01:46 AM, Bod wrote:
Hmm! I'm 68 and have never seen anyone with a gun in public, have never
had one pulled on me or any of my family/friends/neighbours etc.

Same with me. I live in a very safe neighborhood. I feel no
need what so ever to carry. I am grateful to those that do.

Likewise with knives. Apart from some gangs in the big cities (who
mainly shoot or stab each other) no one else feels the need to carry a
gun(even in the big cities).

You pretty much described big city American with Democratic mayors.

We are the same sort of people as you, but only divided by your gun
culture.

I am not all that sure of that. We speak the same language, but
our sensibilities seem much different.

I respect your right to carry guns, but I'll never understand the need
for it.

We carry them for the same reason we wear seat belts. It is
prudence, not fear.

Apparently far less Americans wear seatbelts than Brits.

I'm a Brit and I don't wear one, because the chances of needing it are too slim to bother putting it on every time. It's more comfortable not to be tied up.

--
Excuse me sir, are you playing the bagpipes or sexually abusing an octopus?

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:41:36 -0000, ChairMan no wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +0000, Bod wrote:

We carry them for the same reason we wear seat belts. It is
prudence, not fear.

That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you
need to carry a gun?

Because we can't carry a cop in our pocket. They get heavy after a
time.

Not that this will change anything for the limey troll but
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/good-...i-10/385593774

This would/could not ever happen in his UK

You trust members of the public to act correctly?

--
If voting could really change things, it would be illegal.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:19:20 -0000, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:37:18 -0500, FromTheRafters
wrote:

Oren wrote :
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +0000, Bod wrote:

We carry them for the same reason we wear seat belts. It is
prudence, not fear.

That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you need
to carry a gun?

Because we can't carry a cop in our pocket. They get heavy after a
time.

Especially when you've already got a walrus.

Right. Cops do not have an obligation to protect you.

It's their job.

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:29:53 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 12/01/2017 20:25, T wrote:
On 01/12/2017 12:20 PM, Bod wrote:
That makes no sense, if you're not frightened, then why do you need to
carry a gun?

Do you even think these things through before you say them?

Why wear a seat belt? You afraid of getting in a crash?

No, because it's the law. I'd rather not wear one.

And I don't. Why do you follow a law you don't believe in?

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:36:04 -0000, Meanie wrote:

On 1/10/2017 3:22 PM, Bod wrote:
On 10/01/2017 20:04, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:38:43 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 10/01/2017 19:03, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:13:43 -0500, Meanie wrote:

Come on....there's more to this story......he had a gun disguised as a
remote, didn't he? There has to be a gun issue somewhere here.

Good one.

Where's the proof of this. Surely something like that would've been
mentioned?

The comment Meanie made went right over your dense skull.

Go easy on me, after all I'm only a Brit ;-)


I corrected it for you.

Indeed, we expect humour to be better thought out.

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:28:11 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 10/01/2017 20:10, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:45:19 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 10/01/2017 19:09, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:38:20 +0000, Bod wrote:

Ah, the newspaper report that I saw didn't mention the 60 burglaries
or the verbal abuse to the Judge. Norty newspapers!

Go figure. You're probably reading the same news source about our gun
issues.

Even so, a 22 year sentence is ridiculous, IMO.


...but your opinion doesn't matter.

Unlike you, I listen to others.

No. After more than 200 years you red belly Brits still try to stick
your nose in our business. BTW, you don't listen. WE give you facts
here and you ignore them. You cry and snivel. Get over your envy.

Envy !!? You have a perception problem. Why on earth would I envy
Americans!

I offer *opinions* and hopefully get a discussion, but you reply with
venom and ad hominems.

Just think of them as 10 year olds and you'll understand.

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:45:40 -0000, Bod wrote:


No. After more than 200 years you red belly Brits still try to stick
your nose in our business. BTW, you don't listen. WE give you facts
here and you ignore them. You cry and snivel. Get over your envy.

Envy !!? You have a perception problem. Why on earth would I envy
Americans!

I offer *opinions* and hopefully get a discussion, but you reply with
venom and ad hominems.

You are a liar. You offer castigation and trolling. Your "opinions" are
repetitive rhetoric which you continuously post. The replies you receive
are also repetitive but you choose to ignore them. How many gun
discussions do you need to heed the "opinions" and many "facts" from the
Americans of this forum? The same group of members are here and the same
members are offering the same replies. You think your offering will
reach the leaders of this nation and say "hmmm, damn that Brit has good
opinions. Let's read more" ?

Your objective is nothing more than a method for you to apathetically
chastise our method of punishment and weapon usage while heightening the
great UK.

For someone who doesn't reside here nor is impacted from our system,
what else can it be other than envy.

How you deduce that I am envious baffles me. No country is perfect
and we've all got our problems and we are no different.

As for being impacted, what happens in the UK financially affects the US
and vice versa, even the world. London and New York are the two most
powerful financial centres in the world. Both our countries have strong
Nuclear weapons and we *work together*. We both have some of the best
security services in the world and we *work together*.

You are a massive country that does amazing things, the UK is basically
a tiny island that has always punched well above its weight. Between us
we've invented most of the amazing advanced things in the world, but
*not all*.

Those "British" inventions are actually Scottish. Even Jeremy Clarkson admits this.

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For someone who doesn't reside here nor is impacted from our system,
what else can it be other than envy.

How you deduce that I am envious baffles me. No country is perfect
and we've all got our problems and we are no different.

As for being impacted, what happens in the UK financially affects the US
and vice versa, even the world. London and New York are the two most
powerful financial centres in the world. Both our countries have strong
Nuclear weapons and we *work together*. We both have some of the best
security services in the world and we *work together*.

You are a massive country that does amazing things, the UK is basically
a tiny island that has always punched well above its weight. Between us
we've invented most of the amazing advanced things in the world, but
*not all*.

Those "British" inventions are actually Scottish. Even Jeremy Clarkson
admits this.

Eh!
Here's a list. it might take you quite a while to read the very long list.
:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nd_discoveries

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 20:17:45 -0000, Bod wrote:


For someone who doesn't reside here nor is impacted from our system,
what else can it be other than envy.

How you deduce that I am envious baffles me. No country is perfect
and we've all got our problems and we are no different.

As for being impacted, what happens in the UK financially affects the US
and vice versa, even the world. London and New York are the two most
powerful financial centres in the world. Both our countries have strong
Nuclear weapons and we *work together*. We both have some of the best
security services in the world and we *work together*.

You are a massive country that does amazing things, the UK is basically
a tiny island that has always punched well above its weight. Between us
we've invented most of the amazing advanced things in the world, but
*not all*.

Those "British" inventions are actually Scottish. Even Jeremy Clarkson
admits this.

Eh!
Here's a list. it might take you quite a while to read the very long list.
:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nd_discoveries

4.5 pages to England, 5 pages to Scotland, with a tenth of the population. That makes us 11 times more inventive than you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotti...nd_discoveries

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