On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:52:23 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 1:55 PM, Muggles wrote:

Right now we know the house needs more and better insulation, but have
to make due with what we can actually afford. We'd have to do some
major insulating and wall repairing to add more insulation, and can't
afford it right now.


I know the concept. Money for insullation?
No gots -- all the money is going to
utilities. You need money to save money.

I hope that works out for you.
For many people all they need to do is quit smoking or drinking for a
couple weeks to be able to afford to insulate - and then the cost of
the utilities drops so much that they can afford to smoke themselves
to death and go on the bender of a lifetime with the money they save
on utilities.

Per Phil Kangas:
If you have enough snow to work with, shovel it up against
the
house as high as you can depending on how much you have.
Around here we call it 'banking the house'. Snowbank against
the house that is. Sure makes a difference! I call my house
a
form for an igloo. If there was enough snow I would bury it!

Bunch of years ago I saw a documentary on one of the indigenous people
of Siberia. Those guys seemed to have written the book on cold-weather
survival - as in room-temperature digits below zero F.

One technique I remember was a sort of house-within-a-house where they
would put up a tent inside a larger tent and live in that tent. No
fire, no fuel, no heat, of course.... Might even have been three tents,
one inside the other.
--
Pete Cresswell

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Ralph Mowery:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage
over the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have
a heating element and a fan blowing across them.

My guess would be fire safety.

After reading about the oil filled heater that leaked and caught on fire like a
torch, I'd have to agree.

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:26:48 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.

Been in the chilly mid-upper 70's around my hood. Guess I'll have to
suffer through it. No winds. Got propane for the grill so I can suffer
through cooking parts of a dead cow for a meal.

It's terrible.

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...
Per Ralph Mowery:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them.

My guess would be fire safety.
--

That probably is one advantage, but I was thinking along the lines of how
much power would be saved from one portable heater over another type.
The radiant heat may be beter for saving money,but wouldn't one have to have
it pointed at you and if several in the same room some would be in the cold
area ?

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Stormin Mormon:
Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up.

That is what I have been doing at night.

But now I am thinking "Electric Blanket".... on the assumption that
100-150 watts of electric blanket is cheaper than raising the temp of
half the house.

A thick comforter or 2 will do the job as well. A fan heater beside the bed can
warm it up quickly if pointed at you and you open the covers on that side to
catch the warm air.

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 11:28:01 -0500, wrote:

If it gets any colder, we may close the windows. ;-)

I guess my power bill will fall under $100 this month or next.

On 2/13/2016 4:11 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:49:45 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 2:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 11:18 AM, Muggles wrote:

Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.


My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.


The 2 that I bought has great reviews. They have a thermostat and can
cycle between the heat settings and even turn itself off when temps are
reached, then turn itself back on and cycle through the heat settings again.

IOW, it'll heat up the oil in the radiator, turn itself off while it
radiates the heat, and when it cools down, it'll do it again. It's not
using power to heat all the time - only uses power to heat the oil and
when it's to temp it cycles off. Make sense?

The net power used is the same. One difference is it is RADIANT heat
- which heats you without heating the air around you. Actually, it is
partly radiant heat, as the air does get heated somewhat by contacting
the body of the heater - but it is primarily a "radiator", so a draft
or opening a door doesn't dump all the heat (contained in the air) out
the door.


I'm glad I found something that finally actually works.


--
Maggie

"Ralph Mowery"
wrote in message
"Phil Kangas"
wrote in message

If you have enough snow to work with, shovel it up
against the
house as high as you can depending on how much you have.
Around here we call it 'banking the house'. Snowbank
against
the house that is. Sure makes a difference! I call my
house a
form for an igloo. If there was enough snow I would bury
it!
phil k.

If I had that much snow I woul MOVE. Around here if we
get 4 inches a couple of times a year that is a lot. I
think we have had about 12 to 16 inches at a time about 3
times in the 60 years I can remember. Some years almost
none.


Our snowfall here so far this year is 187" . Not far from
here it is higher, like over 200". pdk

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:34:51 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:

If I had that much snow I woul MOVE. Around here if we get 4 inches a
couple of times a year that is a lot. I think we have had about 12 to 16
inches at a time about 3 times in the 60 years I can remember. Some years
almost none.

I've had ~8 inches of snow twice in 21 years. Just awful.

Can't remember the last time I had on long pants.

On 2/13/2016 5:09 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Ralph Mowery:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them.

My guess would be fire safety.


When the ceramic "black box" heaters came
out, they were supposed to be more fire
safe. I don't know how true this is, but
the absence of glowing filament seemed good.

Not sure how safe it is, having a couple
quarts of heated oil, though.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
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On 2/13/2016 5:22 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Bunch of years ago I saw a documentary on one of the indigenous people
of Siberia. Those guys seemed to have written the book on cold-weather
survival - as in room-temperature digits below zero F.

One technique I remember was a sort of house-within-a-house where they
would put up a tent inside a larger tent and live in that tent. No
fire, no fuel, no heat, of course.... Might even have been three tents,
one inside the other.


During power cut 2003, I heard of a Mormon
family pitching a tent in the living room,
and hunkering in the bunker that way. Must
have made some sense, then.

Also heard of folks who nail a blanket over
a door way and live in one room.

The Siberian thing is, like groovy and far
out. I mean, totaly in tents. (homonym:
intense. For those who missed the joke.
Which is why I am extensively explaining
the joke, for those who didn't yet get it.)

--
..
Christopher A. Young
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On 2/13/2016 5:13 PM, wrote:
For many people all they need to do is quit smoking or drinking for a
couple weeks to be able to afford to insulate - and then the cost of
the utilities drops so much that they can afford to smoke themselves
to death and go on the bender of a lifetime with the money they save
on utilities.


Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor. If one doesn't
smoke, the circulation returns after a while,
and the person is more warm and comfy.

My father used to have cold fingers and toes
and nose. Maybe that's why he chose his final
rest as cremation? Keeps him warm.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
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On 2/13/2016 5:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:49:04 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

I was talking about YOU and YOUR POS living quarters Stormy .
The blow-through "Redneck Bungalow"


This time of year, I have the hair style of
Donald Trump, and the warmth of Hillary!
the wicked witch of the East.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
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On 2/13/2016 4:55 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 3:46 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Last time it was this cold, I had frost on the
wall in my bedroom. Since that time, I've stapled
on a couple layers of corrugated cardboard. And
it's a bit warmer in there. Crude, but works.


Once upon a time we lived in a rental house that had no insulation at
all. It got so cold that the toilet bowl froze. We'd have to heat water
on the stove and pout it into the bowl to get it to flush before we
could use it.

The only heat we had was a kerosene heater that we had to move from room
to room. When we'd go to bed at night we had to tuck the baby into a
dresser drawer with blankets to keep her warm enough even though the k.
heater was in the bedroom with us.

STAY WARM!


That is some kind of serious cold. Did the little
baby grow up to be an eskimo? I figure to be on the
computer for another hour or so. And then go to bed
and pile on the blankets. This low temp routine does
not appeal to me, at all.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 6:16 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 4:11 PM, wrote:
The net power used is the same. One difference is it is RADIANT heat
- which heats you without heating the air around you. Actually, it is
partly radiant heat, as the air does get heated somewhat by contacting
the body of the heater - but it is primarily a "radiator", so a draft
or opening a door doesn't dump all the heat (contained in the air) out
the door.


I'm glad I found something that finally actually works.


I'm sure this has been said so many times
over the years. But, so little works these
days. Nice to hear some thing that does
work.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 6:38 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 5:09 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Ralph Mowery:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage
over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a
heating
element and a fan blowing across them.

My guess would be fire safety.


When the ceramic "black box" heaters came
out, they were supposed to be more fire
safe. I don't know how true this is, but
the absence of glowing filament seemed good.

Not sure how safe it is, having a couple
quarts of heated oil, though.


This is the heater that I bought 2 of:

http://tinyurl.com/jbdyuqh

Got great reviews, and works very well.

--
Maggie

On 2/13/2016 6:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 4:55 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 3:46 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Last time it was this cold, I had frost on the
wall in my bedroom. Since that time, I've stapled
on a couple layers of corrugated cardboard. And
it's a bit warmer in there. Crude, but works.


Once upon a time we lived in a rental house that had no insulation at
all. It got so cold that the toilet bowl froze. We'd have to heat water
on the stove and pout it into the bowl to get it to flush before we
could use it.

The only heat we had was a kerosene heater that we had to move from room
to room. When we'd go to bed at night we had to tuck the baby into a
dresser drawer with blankets to keep her warm enough even though the k.
heater was in the bedroom with us.

STAY WARM!


That is some kind of serious cold. Did the little
baby grow up to be an eskimo? I figure to be on the
computer for another hour or so. And then go to bed
and pile on the blankets. This low temp routine does
not appeal to me, at all.


The first born survived just fine. That was one of the worst winters.
There was an ice storm and it shut down that city. People were getting
around by ice skating where they needed to go.

--
Maggie

On 2/13/2016 7:15 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 6:16 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 4:11 PM, wrote:
The net power used is the same. One difference is it is RADIANT heat
- which heats you without heating the air around you. Actually, it is
partly radiant heat, as the air does get heated somewhat by contacting
the body of the heater - but it is primarily a "radiator", so a draft
or opening a door doesn't dump all the heat (contained in the air) out
the door.


I'm glad I found something that finally actually works.


I'm sure this has been said so many times
over the years. But, so little works these
days. Nice to hear some thing that does
work.


Dat's da truth!

--
Maggie

On 2/13/2016 11:20 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 6:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
That is some kind of serious cold. Did the little
baby grow up to be an eskimo? I figure to be on the
computer for another hour or so. And then go to bed
and pile on the blankets. This low temp routine does
not appeal to me, at all.


The first born survived just fine. That was one of the worst winters.
There was an ice storm and it shut down that city. People were getting
around by ice skating where they needed to go.


That's no fun at all. Well, maybe it is. I
used to like ice skating.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 11:18 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 6:38 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
When the ceramic "black box" heaters came
out, they were supposed to be more fire
safe. I don't know how true this is, but
the absence of glowing filament seemed good.

Not sure how safe it is, having a couple
quarts of heated oil, though.


This is the heater that I bought 2 of:

http://tinyurl.com/jbdyuqh

Got great reviews, and works very well.


Thanks for the link. Eighty bucks is pricey.
But worth it, if it works. As for me, I'd
keep my ceramic heater, and use the eighty
bucks to buy more electricity.

But then, I may not be typical of all users.


--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:56:45 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various
sources of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those
radiator oil heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it
so much I bought another one for the back part of the house.

I just toss another log on the fire and open the inlet air damper
a bit . Right now it's in the high 30's and I've got the stove
turned all the way down and a couple of windows cracked so it
doesn't get too warm ... this stove is way oversized for our current
space . Sized it for the final structure , about 4X the current
floor space .


It has to get pretty cold for us to fire up the wood stove because the
thing puts out more heat than we really need.

We have only one other choice , and heating the whole living space with the
propane furnace in the camper is not only hard on that furnace , costs a lot
for the propane . Well , I guess we could use 'lectric heaters , but that's
costly too .
Besides , cutting and splitting the firewood helps keep me (relatively)
slim and fit . Though I've managed to add a little bit in front - my wife
says she's going to get me a tee shirt that says "Body by Busch" .
--
Snag

Here's a shirt you may like:

http://www.amazon.com/TShirt-Funny-B.../dp/B00BHKU18S

Paul

Per Oren:
Been in the chilly mid-upper 70's around my hood. Guess I'll have to
suffer through it. No winds. Got propane for the grill so I can suffer
through cooking parts of a dead cow for a meal.

It's terrible.

When I had been living in Hawaii for about six years, I was waiting to
go on duty to my nighttime job as assistant manager in a Waikiki hotel.

Was sitting in a tourist trap called "The International Marketplace",
wearing a long-sleeved cardigan sweater and freezing my pasty white butt
off.

Some tourist fresh off the plane from someplace like Broken Pelvis,
Montana chose to sit down on the same bench.

I guess he felt like he had to say something - and his opening line was
"Sure is hot and muggy here...."


In fact, I had never even *heard* of home air conditioning in all the
years I lived in Hawaii....

Went back 40-some years later for a month to look up old acquaintances
and see how their lives came out.

Sure enough, in the B&B I stayed in I had the AC running virtually all
the time I was in the place.

So I guess our bodies adapt...
--
Pete Cresswell

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 10:26:51 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.

--
.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
. www.lds.org
.
.

It was 6 degrees last night, which is unusually low for our area. I covered the greenhouse with a tarp on Saturday afternoon to keep the heat in and it was 57 in there when we woke up this morning. Maybe you could rig a sort of tarp tent over your trailer.

Paul

On 2/14/2016 7:25 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 11:20 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 6:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
That is some kind of serious cold. Did the little
baby grow up to be an eskimo? I figure to be on the
computer for another hour or so. And then go to bed
and pile on the blankets. This low temp routine does
not appeal to me, at all.


The first born survived just fine. That was one of the worst winters.
There was an ice storm and it shut down that city. People were getting
around by ice skating where they needed to go.


That's no fun at all. Well, maybe it is. I
used to like ice skating.


I was more into roller skating.

--
Maggie

On 2/14/2016 7:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 11:18 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 6:38 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
When the ceramic "black box" heaters came
out, they were supposed to be more fire
safe. I don't know how true this is, but
the absence of glowing filament seemed good.

Not sure how safe it is, having a couple
quarts of heated oil, though.


This is the heater that I bought 2 of:

http://tinyurl.com/jbdyuqh

Got great reviews, and works very well.


Thanks for the link. Eighty bucks is pricey.
But worth it, if it works. As for me, I'd
keep my ceramic heater, and use the eighty
bucks to buy more electricity.

But then, I may not be typical of all users.



I understand.

--
Maggie

On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 05:50:21 -0800 (PST), Pavel314
wrote:

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 10:26:51 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.

--
.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
. www.lds.org
.
.

It was 6 degrees last night, which is unusually low for our area. I covered the greenhouse with a tarp on Saturday afternoon to keep the heat in and it was 57 in there when we woke up this morning. Maybe you could rig a sort of tarp tent over your trailer.

Paul
Coldest night of the year here at -26C (about -15F) with windchill
down to -29C

On 2/14/2016 8:50 AM, Pavel314 wrote:

It was 6 degrees last night, which is unusually low for our area. I covered the greenhouse with a tarp on Saturday afternoon to keep the heat in and it was 57 in there when we woke up this morning. Maybe you could rig a sort of tarp tent over your trailer.

Paul


I'm sure I would if I had the tarps, and it would
not look too strange.

Sunday AM, the radio said -11 F, with wind chills
of -30 below. Wow, that was miserable. I ought have
stayed home, like half my congregation.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
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On 2/14/2016 12:16 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/14/2016 7:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

But then, I may not be typical of all users.



I understand.


sob I've been insulted! Monster! Make her stop!

More seriously, I've been pleased with my natural
gas furnace, which has obediently kept the indoor
temp at the set point. Can't complain about that.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
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Oren posted for all of us...



On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:34:51 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:

If I had that much snow I woul MOVE. Around here if we get 4 inches a
couple of times a year that is a lot. I think we have had about 12 to 16
inches at a time about 3 times in the 60 years I can remember. Some years
almost none.

I've had ~8 inches of snow twice in 21 years. Just awful.

Can't remember the last time I had on long pants.

I thought you couldn't wear shorts because of exposure problems...

--
Tekkie

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 15:53:38 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

Oren posted for all of us...



On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:34:51 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:

If I had that much snow I woul MOVE. Around here if we get 4 inches a
couple of times a year that is a lot. I think we have had about 12 to 16
inches at a time about 3 times in the 60 years I can remember. Some years
almost none.

I've had ~8 inches of snow twice in 21 years. Just awful.

Can't remember the last time I had on long pants.

I thought you couldn't wear shorts because of exposure problems...

No. Hard to get frost bite here in the desert.
--
"Your brain is so scary sometimes... it really is."-Jedediah Bila...

"Ralph Mowery" wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 11:18 AM, Muggles wrote:

Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.


My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.

I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them. Isn't electric heat just the same
either way and you are wasting the money on a more expensive heater ?
Anything that produces heat from elecrtricity is going to use the same
ammout of KWH to raise the room to the same temperature.

I feel they are safer. Except in one case described here, Burst into flames
from leak. Perhaps thermostat stuck. Like to run them full on so they don't
cycle. Just turn watts down.

Greg

On 2/16/2016 4:11 AM, gregz wrote:
"Ralph Mowery" wrote:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them. Isn't electric heat just the same
either way and you are wasting the money on a more expensive heater ?
Anything that produces heat from elecrtricity is going to use the same
ammout of KWH to raise the room to the same temperature.

I feel they are safer. Except in one case described here, Burst into flames
from leak. Perhaps thermostat stuck. Like to run them full on so they don't
cycle. Just turn watts down.

Greg


Tuesday Feb 16, 2016
Last night, I had a rare but welcome service
call. Less than inch of snow. The weather guys
are saying that a snow storm is expected,
leaving plenty of snow. I got home about 10 PM
and it was snowing, but no new accumulation.

8 AM wake up, finds seven (7) inches of wet,
heavy heart attack snow on the side porch. Not
what I wanted to see. Now, it's time to go shovel
and see if the snow blower runs. And if it works
on this wet and heavy.

Guess a hearty breakfast and a few ibuprophen
will be my best friend this morning. A couple
years ago, I tried a headset radio and listen to
news and information while shovelling. Might try
that again.

--
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Christopher A. Young
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On 2/16/2016 8:40 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


Tuesday Feb 16, 2016
Last night, I had a rare but welcome service
call. Less than inch of snow. The weather guys
are saying that a snow storm is expected,
leaving plenty of snow. I got home about 10 PM
and it was snowing, but no new accumulation.

8 AM wake up, finds seven (7) inches of wet,
heavy heart attack snow on the side porch. Not
what I wanted to see. Now, it's time to go shovel
and see if the snow blower runs. And if it works
on this wet and heavy.



And it's still Tuesday. I cleared most of the snow
from one vehicle, fatigue took over. Find out there
is a travel advisory, the snow plows cannot keep up
with the snow. I am going to cancel all my plans,
and stay home. Eat, go back to bed, read books, watch
some TV shows. Just cancel the entire day and wait
for tomorrow.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
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..
..

Oren posted for all of us...



On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 15:53:38 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

Oren posted for all of us...



On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:34:51 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:

If I had that much snow I woul MOVE. Around here if we get 4 inches a
couple of times a year that is a lot. I think we have had about 12 to 16
inches at a time about 3 times in the 60 years I can remember. Some years
almost none.

I've had ~8 inches of snow twice in 21 years. Just awful.

Can't remember the last time I had on long pants.

I thought you couldn't wear shorts because of exposure problems...

No. Hard to get frost bite here in the desert.

I was referring to the schlong exposure.

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Tekkie

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:05:33 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

Oren posted for all of us...



On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 15:53:38 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

Oren posted for all of us...



On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:34:51 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:

If I had that much snow I woul MOVE. Around here if we get 4 inches a
couple of times a year that is a lot. I think we have had about 12 to 16
inches at a time about 3 times in the 60 years I can remember. Some years
almost none.

I've had ~8 inches of snow twice in 21 years. Just awful.

Can't remember the last time I had on long pants.

I thought you couldn't wear shorts because of exposure problems...

No. Hard to get frost bite here in the desert.

I was referring to the schlong exposure.

Oh. 71°F, real feel 77°F and my shirt is coming off. Watched the
bride paint a door and I have to bring in and hang it so she can paint
the other one and the trim.