Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

--
Maggie

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:18:25 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

If it gets any colder, we may close the windows. ;-)

On 2/13/2016 10:28 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:18:25 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

If it gets any colder, we may close the windows. ;-)


awe ... I have spring fever, I think.

--
Maggie

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 11:28:01 -0500, wrote:

If it gets any colder, we may close the windows. ;-)

I guess my power bill will fall under $100 this month or next.

Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

Why don't you have an energy audit done? Then you'll know why and what
to do about it.

Tony Hwang wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various
sources of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those
radiator oil heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so
much I bought another one for the back part of the house.

Why don't you have an energy audit done? Then you'll know why and what
to do about it.

He already knows why - it's a mobile home with 2" thick walls and no
insulation . Has aluminum windows that are single glazed and have no thermal
break and also let air infiltrate . Also has a poorly fitting doors if he
has to use a towel as a door snake .

--
Snag

On 2/13/2016 1:20 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Tony Hwang wrote:
Muggles wrote:
Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various
sources of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those
radiator oil heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so
much I bought another one for the back part of the house.

Why don't you have an energy audit done? Then you'll know why and what
to do about it.

He already knows why - it's a mobile home with 2" thick walls and no
insulation . Has aluminum windows that are single glazed and have no thermal
break and also let air infiltrate . Also has a poorly fitting doors if he
has to use a towel as a door snake .


I thought Muggles was female? Oh, maybe I'm
mistaken. Sorry, Mr. Muggles.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 12:51 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 1:20 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Tony Hwang wrote:
Muggles wrote:
Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various
sources of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those
radiator oil heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so
much I bought another one for the back part of the house.

Why don't you have an energy audit done? Then you'll know why and what
to do about it.

He already knows why - it's a mobile home with 2" thick walls and no
insulation . Has aluminum windows that are single glazed and have no
thermal
break and also let air infiltrate . Also has a poorly fitting doors if he
has to use a towel as a door snake .


I thought Muggles was female? Oh, maybe I'm
mistaken. Sorry, Mr. Muggles.


Yes, I'm female. lol

--
Maggie

On 2/13/2016 12:09 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

Why don't you have an energy audit done? Then you'll know why and what
to do about it.

Right now we know the house needs more and better insulation, but have
to make due with what we can actually afford. We'd have to do some
major insulating and wall repairing to add more insulation, and can't
afford it right now.

--
Maggie

On 2/13/2016 1:55 PM, Muggles wrote:

Right now we know the house needs more and better insulation, but have
to make due with what we can actually afford. We'd have to do some
major insulating and wall repairing to add more insulation, and can't
afford it right now.


I know the concept. Money for insullation?
No gots -- all the money is going to
utilities. You need money to save money.

I hope that works out for you.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 2:52 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 1:55 PM, Muggles wrote:

Right now we know the house needs more and better insulation, but have
to make due with what we can actually afford. We'd have to do some
major insulating and wall repairing to add more insulation, and can't
afford it right now.


I know the concept. Money for insullation?
No gots -- all the money is going to
utilities. You need money to save money.

I hope that works out for you.


So far we're warm. Hope you get warm, too.

--
Maggie

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:52:23 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 1:55 PM, Muggles wrote:

Right now we know the house needs more and better insulation, but have
to make due with what we can actually afford. We'd have to do some
major insulating and wall repairing to add more insulation, and can't
afford it right now.


I know the concept. Money for insullation?
No gots -- all the money is going to
utilities. You need money to save money.

I hope that works out for you.
For many people all they need to do is quit smoking or drinking for a
couple weeks to be able to afford to insulate - and then the cost of
the utilities drops so much that they can afford to smoke themselves
to death and go on the bender of a lifetime with the money they save
on utilities.

Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources
of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

I just toss another log on the fire and open the inlet air damper a bit .
Right now it's in the high 30's and I've got the stove turned all the way
down and a couple of windows cracked so it doesn't get too warm ... this
stove is way oversized for our current space . Sized it for the final
structure , about 4X the current floor space .

--
Snag
And we don't care if the utilities go off , if we need 'lectric I just fire
up the generator . Only thing I won't have is hot water for showers , the
house heater is electric .

Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources
of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

I just toss another log on the fire and open the inlet air damper a bit .
Right now it's in the high 30's and I've got the stove turned all the way
down and a couple of windows cracked so it doesn't get too warm ... this
stove is way oversized for our current space . Sized it for the final
structure , about 4X the current floor space .

My first house built in the '70s had wood burning fire place I retrofit
to natural gas burning. This house has 2 fire places direct vented gas
burning, even cabin I am going out today(family day long week end) has
same gas fire place. No more stacking/splitting wood,LOL.

Sounds like 5th wheel trailer I used to have for camping was better
insulated. I could go winter camping and it was comfy inside.
Cold in winter, then hot in summer as well...... Worried about more bugs
in coming summer here because we are having such a mild winter. High
temperature record set in 1926 is broken now.

On 2/13/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources
of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

I just toss another log on the fire and open the inlet air damper a bit .
Right now it's in the high 30's and I've got the stove turned all the way
down and a couple of windows cracked so it doesn't get too warm ... this
stove is way oversized for our current space . Sized it for the final
structure , about 4X the current floor space .


It has to get pretty cold for us to fire up the wood stove because the
thing puts out more heat than we really need.

--
Maggie

Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various
sources of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those
radiator oil heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it
so much I bought another one for the back part of the house.

I just toss another log on the fire and open the inlet air damper
a bit . Right now it's in the high 30's and I've got the stove
turned all the way down and a couple of windows cracked so it
doesn't get too warm ... this stove is way oversized for our current
space . Sized it for the final structure , about 4X the current
floor space .


It has to get pretty cold for us to fire up the wood stove because the
thing puts out more heat than we really need.

We have only one other choice , and heating the whole living space with the
propane furnace in the camper is not only hard on that furnace , costs a lot
for the propane . Well , I guess we could use 'lectric heaters , but that's
costly too .
Besides , cutting and splitting the firewood helps keep me (relatively)
slim and fit . Though I've managed to add a little bit in front - my wife
says she's going to get me a tee shirt that says "Body by Busch" .
--
Snag

On 2/13/2016 2:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various
sources of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those
radiator oil heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it
so much I bought another one for the back part of the house.

I just toss another log on the fire and open the inlet air damper
a bit . Right now it's in the high 30's and I've got the stove
turned all the way down and a couple of windows cracked so it
doesn't get too warm ... this stove is way oversized for our current
space . Sized it for the final structure , about 4X the current
floor space .



It has to get pretty cold for us to fire up the wood stove because the
thing puts out more heat than we really need.


We have only one other choice , and heating the whole living space with the
propane furnace in the camper is not only hard on that furnace , costs a lot
for the propane . Well , I guess we could use 'lectric heaters , but that's
costly too .
Besides , cutting and splitting the firewood helps keep me (relatively)
slim and fit . Though I've managed to add a little bit in front - my wife
says she's going to get me a tee shirt that says "Body by Busch" .


Nothing wrong with a little beer belly. If you work, and are fit, hey,
enjoy. I like light beer every now and then, myself.

--
Maggie

On 2/13/2016 3:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
It has to get pretty cold for us to fire up the wood stove because the
thing puts out more heat than we really need.

We have only one other choice , and heating the whole living space with the
propane furnace in the camper is not only hard on that furnace , costs a lot
for the propane . Well , I guess we could use 'lectric heaters , but that's
costly too .
Besides , cutting and splitting the firewood helps keep me (relatively)
slim and fit . Though I've managed to add a little bit in front - my wife
says she's going to get me a tee shirt that says "Body by Busch" .


I've known people who had wood burning stoves. I've
enjoyed picking fire wood off the curb side, and
helped with the cutting and all. It's a very good
use of time. Well, for me anyway.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:56:45 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various
sources of heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those
radiator oil heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it
so much I bought another one for the back part of the house.

I just toss another log on the fire and open the inlet air damper
a bit . Right now it's in the high 30's and I've got the stove
turned all the way down and a couple of windows cracked so it
doesn't get too warm ... this stove is way oversized for our current
space . Sized it for the final structure , about 4X the current
floor space .


It has to get pretty cold for us to fire up the wood stove because the
thing puts out more heat than we really need.

We have only one other choice , and heating the whole living space with the
propane furnace in the camper is not only hard on that furnace , costs a lot
for the propane . Well , I guess we could use 'lectric heaters , but that's
costly too .
Besides , cutting and splitting the firewood helps keep me (relatively)
slim and fit . Though I've managed to add a little bit in front - my wife
says she's going to get me a tee shirt that says "Body by Busch" .
--
Snag

Here's a shirt you may like:

http://www.amazon.com/TShirt-Funny-B.../dp/B00BHKU18S

Paul

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:18:25 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.
Turning up the heat should not be required - the furnace will run
until the set temperature is reached - unless the thermostat is on the
sheltered side of the wall close to the heat sourse and the house is
so drafty that the rest of the house never gets warm...

On 2/13/2016 2:27 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:18:25 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.

Turning up the heat should not be required - the furnace will run
until the set temperature is reached - unless the thermostat is on the
sheltered side of the wall close to the heat sourse and the house is
so drafty that the rest of the house never gets warm...


We used to have a floor furnace, bit it died of old age. We replaced it
with a wall gas heater, so now 2 rooms have those. The heat is OK while
they are on, but just don't produce enough heat for the whole house.
The back bedroom has some electric baseboard heaters and a wood stove.
Again, not quite enough heat via the electric baseboard heaters, and
it's messy to use the wood stove unless it's gets cold enough to put up
with the mess, including, putting up with the occasional smoke while
building fires. That can really mess with my asthma, so it's a use when
we really need it kind of thing.

We've tried various kinds of space heaters, and none of them really kept
the house warm until we tried the oil radiator type on wheels. The brand
I researched had good reviews, too, and since we've been using them we
rarely get cold anymore. Best space heaters I've ever tried.

--
Maggie

On 2/13/2016 3:27 PM, wrote:
On 2/13/2016 9:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as

Turning up the heat should not be required - the furnace will run
until the set temperature is reached - unless the thermostat is on the
sheltered side of the wall close to the heat sourse and the house is
so drafty that the rest of the house never gets warm...


I do have a programmable thermostat. Some how,
it seems to always be at the wrong temp. Or, I
go away for a few hours, and put it on manual
to turn it down. Finally, I left it on manual,
and adjust as needed. Down at night for sleep,
up for daytime occupancy.

Some how, seems to work out okay.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 11:18 AM, Muggles wrote:

Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.


My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 11:18 AM, Muggles wrote:

Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.


My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.

I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them. Isn't electric heat just the same
either way and you are wasting the money on a more expensive heater ?
Anything that produces heat from elecrtricity is going to use the same
ammout of KWH to raise the room to the same temperature.

On 2/13/2016 3:48 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them. Isn't electric heat just the same
either way and you are wasting the money on a more expensive heater ?
Anything that produces heat from elecrtricity is going to use the same
ammout of KWH to raise the room to the same temperature.


I've heard that 1500 watts provides 5,200 BTU
per hour, no matter how you slice it. Some folks
like infrared heaters, and others like fan forced
hot air. All works out about the same.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Per Ralph Mowery:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them.

My guess would be fire safety.
--
Pete Cresswell

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Ralph Mowery:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage
over the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have
a heating element and a fan blowing across them.

My guess would be fire safety.

After reading about the oil filled heater that leaked and caught on fire like a
torch, I'd have to agree.

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...
Per Ralph Mowery:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them.

My guess would be fire safety.
--

That probably is one advantage, but I was thinking along the lines of how
much power would be saved from one portable heater over another type.
The radiant heat may be beter for saving money,but wouldn't one have to have
it pointed at you and if several in the same room some would be in the cold
area ?

On 2/13/2016 5:09 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Ralph Mowery:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them.

My guess would be fire safety.


When the ceramic "black box" heaters came
out, they were supposed to be more fire
safe. I don't know how true this is, but
the absence of glowing filament seemed good.

Not sure how safe it is, having a couple
quarts of heated oil, though.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

"Ralph Mowery" wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 11:18 AM, Muggles wrote:

Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.


My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.

I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them. Isn't electric heat just the same
either way and you are wasting the money on a more expensive heater ?
Anything that produces heat from elecrtricity is going to use the same
ammout of KWH to raise the room to the same temperature.

I feel they are safer. Except in one case described here, Burst into flames
from leak. Perhaps thermostat stuck. Like to run them full on so they don't
cycle. Just turn watts down.

Greg

On 2/16/2016 4:11 AM, gregz wrote:
"Ralph Mowery" wrote:
I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see any advantage over
the oil filled heaters over the electric heaters that just have a heating
element and a fan blowing across them. Isn't electric heat just the same
either way and you are wasting the money on a more expensive heater ?
Anything that produces heat from elecrtricity is going to use the same
ammout of KWH to raise the room to the same temperature.

I feel they are safer. Except in one case described here, Burst into flames
from leak. Perhaps thermostat stuck. Like to run them full on so they don't
cycle. Just turn watts down.

Greg


Tuesday Feb 16, 2016
Last night, I had a rare but welcome service
call. Less than inch of snow. The weather guys
are saying that a snow storm is expected,
leaving plenty of snow. I got home about 10 PM
and it was snowing, but no new accumulation.

8 AM wake up, finds seven (7) inches of wet,
heavy heart attack snow on the side porch. Not
what I wanted to see. Now, it's time to go shovel
and see if the snow blower runs. And if it works
on this wet and heavy.

Guess a hearty breakfast and a few ibuprophen
will be my best friend this morning. A couple
years ago, I tried a headset radio and listen to
news and information while shovelling. Might try
that again.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 2:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 11:18 AM, Muggles wrote:

Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.


My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.


The 2 that I bought has great reviews. They have a thermostat and can
cycle between the heat settings and even turn itself off when temps are
reached, then turn itself back on and cycle through the heat settings again.

IOW, it'll heat up the oil in the radiator, turn itself off while it
radiates the heat, and when it cools down, it'll do it again. It's not
using power to heat all the time - only uses power to heat the oil and
when it's to temp it cycles off. Make sense?

--
Maggie

On 2/13/2016 3:49 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/13/2016 2:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.


The 2 that I bought has great reviews. They have a thermostat and can
cycle between the heat settings and even turn itself off when temps are
reached, then turn itself back on and cycle through the heat settings again.

IOW, it'll heat up the oil in the radiator, turn itself off while it
radiates the heat, and when it cools down, it'll do it again. It's not
using power to heat all the time - only uses power to heat the oil and
when it's to temp it cycles off. Make sense?


Cycling stat like that is akin to put ten bucks
in the gas tank each time. It works out the
same, over time.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:49:45 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 2:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 11:18 AM, Muggles wrote:

Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.


My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.


The 2 that I bought has great reviews. They have a thermostat and can
cycle between the heat settings and even turn itself off when temps are
reached, then turn itself back on and cycle through the heat settings again.

IOW, it'll heat up the oil in the radiator, turn itself off while it
radiates the heat, and when it cools down, it'll do it again. It's not
using power to heat all the time - only uses power to heat the oil and
when it's to temp it cycles off. Make sense?
The net power used is the same. One difference is it is RADIANT heat
- which heats you without heating the air around you. Actually, it is
partly radiant heat, as the air does get heated somewhat by contacting
the body of the heater - but it is primarily a "radiator", so a draft
or opening a door doesn't dump all the heat (contained in the air) out
the door.

On 2/13/2016 4:11 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:49:45 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

On 2/13/2016 2:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 11:18 AM, Muggles wrote:

Our house can get rather cold in the winter even with various sources of
heat that we have, so this year I tried one of those radiator oil
heaters on wheels, and it worked great! We liked it so much I bought
another one for the back part of the house.


My Dad liked his oil filled radiator. I've always
been a fan forced heat kind of guy. But, I may
try oil filled, some day. Thank you.


The 2 that I bought has great reviews. They have a thermostat and can
cycle between the heat settings and even turn itself off when temps are
reached, then turn itself back on and cycle through the heat settings again.

IOW, it'll heat up the oil in the radiator, turn itself off while it
radiates the heat, and when it cools down, it'll do it again. It's not
using power to heat all the time - only uses power to heat the oil and
when it's to temp it cycles off. Make sense?

The net power used is the same. One difference is it is RADIANT heat
- which heats you without heating the air around you. Actually, it is
partly radiant heat, as the air does get heated somewhat by contacting
the body of the heater - but it is primarily a "radiator", so a draft
or opening a door doesn't dump all the heat (contained in the air) out
the door.


I'm glad I found something that finally actually works.


--
Maggie

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 09:26:48 -0600, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Western NYS, USA is three degrees below
zero (Farenheit) today.

Wonder what all I can do about the cold?
Obvious answer is to stay home and turn
the heat up. I've got a towel acting as
a door snake, help keep the cold from
coming in under the door.

Only trace of snow, no snow moval today.
I guess I'll hope the utilities stay on.


People in farm country would put plastic over the windows
and stack some straw bales around the houses years ago. The
fortunate ones had a good windbreak north and west of their houses.
It was also nicer if the outhouse door wasn't on the north or west
side of it.


--
Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

On 2/13/2016 11:21 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
People in farm country would put plastic over the windows
and stack some straw bales around the houses years ago. The
fortunate ones had a good windbreak north and west of their houses.
It was also nicer if the outhouse door wasn't on the north or west
side of it.


Both good idas. I've got some window plastic. I'm
sure the park would disapprove if I used hay bales.
This summer, a friend crawled under and found some
holes in the insullation. He was kind enough to call
out sizes for me. I cut pieces to shape, and slid
them in. Also handed in screws, drill drivers, washers,
etc. Hope that helps, it certainly must help.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 2/13/2016 11:21 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
People in farm country would put plastic over the
windows
and stack some straw bales around the houses years ago.
The
fortunate ones had a good windbreak north and west of
their houses.
It was also nicer if the outhouse door wasn't on the
north or west
side of it.


If you have enough snow to work with, shovel it up against
the
house as high as you can depending on how much you have.
Around here we call it 'banking the house'. Snowbank against
the house that is. Sure makes a difference! I call my house
a
form for an igloo. If there was enough snow I would bury it!
phil k.

"Phil Kangas" wrote in message
...

If you have enough snow to work with, shovel it up against the
house as high as you can depending on how much you have.
Around here we call it 'banking the house'. Snowbank against
the house that is. Sure makes a difference! I call my house a
form for an igloo. If there was enough snow I would bury it!
phil k.

If I had that much snow I woul MOVE. Around here if we get 4 inches a
couple of times a year that is a lot. I think we have had about 12 to 16
inches at a time about 3 times in the 60 years I can remember. Some years
almost none.