In ,
Tony Hwang belched:
Julie Bove wrote:

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:04:36 -0700, "Pico Rico"
wrote:

She sticks her toe in her for just a moment, and the newsgroup goes
all to
hell like the other groups she hangs out in. The thread on water
pressure
regulator has taken on a nasty tone that does not belong in this
previously
helpful and rational group. I hope we can return to civility.


It will if you stop stirring up ****. Go back to RFC if that is the
group you are trying to kill.

This is getting beyond ridiculous. I asked a serious question here.
Actually a couple. And perhaps because I am a woman and I don't know
technical stuff, that didn't go over so well. Both problems are
currently resolved, I certainly wasn't trolling and I had intended to
leave this group, until I saw Pico's post. Clearly he or she is
trying to cause trouble and drag me back in here.
Hi,
Let me rephrase for Ed. Wherever you go you will suck up all the
bandwidth there
and it'll kill that group.

tony, you need to go back and reread what Ed wrote.
Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted

On 10/04/2014 12:55 PM, ChairMan wrote:
tony, you need to go back and reread what Ed wrote.
Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted

You are correct. I misread it badly.

By the way, my Trophy Wife loves the new rollers
on her chair. Thank you!

On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:55:48 -0500, "ChairMan"
wrote:

Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted


Pico tried to get on my case in the Ferguson, Missouri, shooting case
by a LEO. Tried to tell me about laws or that I should check the law.
I pointed out that I'm retired LEO and understand certain laws on use
of force. Application of that force and when to administer it in a
judicial way. Told him of a case when a Nigerian Prince took a break
down.

I've tried to help Julie. At times I get the impression she wants to
be or play the victim. Often replies to me are "yes but". Any excuse
to what she did not do to fix what was suggested.

Men use logic, females can get dramatic - it complicates things!
--
I like Guns and Titties

On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:09:24 -0700, Todd wrote:

On 10/04/2014 12:55 PM, ChairMan wrote:
tony, you need to go back and reread what Ed wrote.
Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted

You are correct. I misread it badly.

By the way, my Trophy Wife loves the new rollers
on her chair. Thank you!

Ed is always calm, I've not got that far. He has been married almost
as I have been alive.
--

"If you've had an erection lasting four or more hours... congratulations"

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...

SNIP

The new installers said that most of the companies in this area and not just
garage doors but other types of repairs are run by some guy or people in a
call center, not necessarily even in this state. They outsource to foreign
people. The older guy's wife once followed up on a company that outsources
to Mexicans and found their address to be a Dairy Queen.

Every since getting online, I check licenses for any contractors to see if there are outstanding complaints and that are bonded, have insurance and, if they have employees, workers comp. Except for very small chores, I get 3 references - recent and a few years back, and check them all out.

I had a plumber quote me a hot water heater installation that as mostly a rooter guy, and didn't know enough for a water heater job. I ended up getting someone else. Later I called that first one for rooting and he had sold the business and moved out of state 3 years ago. Meanwhile, the guy who bought the company had closed it and was just doing work on the side of his regular job. From what I've seen, a lot of these companies come and go.

Actually, I was going to mention that the shooting of Alton Nolan, the recently converted Jihadist, in Moore, Oklahoma, is a perfect example of where a gun in the right hands actually worked the way it's supposed to.

Alton Nolan had already beheaded one female co-worker and was attacking a second when the chief operating officer of the company, a special deputy in the local police force, shot him before he could kill that second female co-worker. As it stands, she was only stabbed but is expected to make a full recovery.

I'm not "pro-gun" at all, but I recognize this case as one in which a properly armed and trained good guy was able to intervene in a disaster in the making and prevent it from getting worse. Were it not for that guy using his gun to stop Alton Nolan, then Vaughan Foods could have been in the headlines as yet another massacre of innocent people; something that the USA has seen too many of in the past few years.

On 10/4/2014 6:51 PM, nestork wrote:
Actually, I was going to mention that the shooting of Alton Nolan, the
recently converted Jihadist, in Moore, Oklahoma, is a perfect example of
where a gun in the right hands actually worked the way it's supposed
to.

Alton Nolan had already beheaded one female co-worker and was attacking
a second when the chief operating officer of the company, a special
deputy in the local police force, shot him before he could kill that
second female co-worker. As it stands, she was only stabbed but is
expected to make a full recovery.

I'm not "pro-gun" at all, but I recognize this case as one in which a
properly armed and trained good guy was able to intervene in a disaster
in the making and prevent it from getting worse. Were it not for that
guy using his gun to stop Alton Nolan, then Vaughan Foods could have
been in the headlines as yet another massacre of innocent people;
something that the USA has seen too many of in the past few years.

The gun holder was off duty (retired?) LEO,
and many gun haters think it's OK since it's
a government gun.


..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

No. He was the Chief Operating Officer at Vaughan Foods in Moore, Oklahoma, but he also had some capacity as a special deputy with the local police force. Perhaps there is a volunteer police force in that community very much like the volunteer fire departments in many other communities. I dunno.

But, I guess that as a person gets older and experiences more, they come to the conclusion that there are no blacks and whites, like there were when they were a teenager. There are only various shades of grey. This is one instance where a gun in the right hands did a lot of good. There are other instances where it didn't. It's a little bit of white pigment in an otherwise grey paint. Dark grey in my view, but light grey in the view of others.

Oren wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:09:24 -0700, Todd wrote:

On 10/04/2014 12:55 PM, ChairMan wrote:
tony, you need to go back and reread what Ed wrote.
Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted

You are correct. I misread it badly.

By the way, my Trophy Wife loves the new rollers
on her chair. Thank you!

Ed is always calm, I've not got that far. He has been married almost
as I have been alive.

Hmmm,
How many years of marriage? Married in 1969, both of us are still
here. As a die hard Catholic divorce is not in our mind ever. She was
a novice nun at 19. I dragged her out of convent, LOL!

On 10/04/2014 04:24 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/4/2014 6:51 PM, nestork wrote:
Actually, I was going to mention that the shooting of Alton Nolan, the
recently converted Jihadist, in Moore, Oklahoma, is a perfect example of
where a gun in the right hands actually worked the way it's supposed
to.

Alton Nolan had already beheaded one female co-worker and was attacking
a second when the chief operating officer of the company, a special
deputy in the local police force, shot him before he could kill that
second female co-worker. As it stands, she was only stabbed but is
expected to make a full recovery.

I'm not "pro-gun" at all, but I recognize this case as one in which a
properly armed and trained good guy was able to intervene in a disaster
in the making and prevent it from getting worse. Were it not for that
guy using his gun to stop Alton Nolan, then Vaughan Foods could have
been in the headlines as yet another massacre of innocent people;
something that the USA has seen too many of in the past few years.

The gun holder was off duty (retired?) LEO,
and many gun haters think it's OK since it's
a government gun.


Hi Stormin',

Here is a nice article about it from Thomas Sowell:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...es_117747.html

From your other postings, it seems like you still think
I was actually threatening to hit you with a newspaper.
You do realize I never meant anything of the sort.

-T

ChairMan wrote:
In ,
Tony Hwang belched:
Julie Bove wrote:

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:04:36 -0700, "Pico Rico"
wrote:

She sticks her toe in her for just a moment, and the newsgroup goes
all to
hell like the other groups she hangs out in. The thread on water
pressure
regulator has taken on a nasty tone that does not belong in this
previously
helpful and rational group. I hope we can return to civility.


It will if you stop stirring up ****. Go back to RFC if that is the
group you are trying to kill.

This is getting beyond ridiculous. I asked a serious question here.
Actually a couple. And perhaps because I am a woman and I don't know
technical stuff, that didn't go over so well. Both problems are
currently resolved, I certainly wasn't trolling and I had intended to
leave this group, until I saw Pico's post. Clearly he or she is
trying to cause trouble and drag me back in here.
Hi,
Let me rephrase for Ed. Wherever you go you will suck up all the
bandwidth there
and it'll kill that group.

tony, you need to go back and reread what Ed wrote.
Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted


Hi,
I know, I was little over board. I don't like time wasters. I am in good
mood
today, I found what I need for my sun room wall mounted heat pump/ I need
a new capillary thermostat to run it in heat mode. Even found a replacement
in Indiana(Shorty's HVAC parts) our collection of orchids won't freeze when
it gets cold. We already received 2nd snow fall.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/4/2014 6:51 PM, nestork wrote:
Actually, I was going to mention that the shooting of Alton Nolan, the
recently converted Jihadist, in Moore, Oklahoma, is a perfect example of
where a gun in the right hands actually worked the way it's supposed
to.

Alton Nolan had already beheaded one female co-worker and was attacking
a second when the chief operating officer of the company, a special
deputy in the local police force, shot him before he could kill that
second female co-worker. As it stands, she was only stabbed but is
expected to make a full recovery.

I'm not "pro-gun" at all, but I recognize this case as one in which a
properly armed and trained good guy was able to intervene in a disaster
in the making and prevent it from getting worse. Were it not for that
guy using his gun to stop Alton Nolan, then Vaughan Foods could have
been in the headlines as yet another massacre of innocent people;
something that the USA has seen too many of in the past few years.

The gun holder was off duty (retired?) LEO,
and many gun haters think it's OK since it's
a government gun.


.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
Hi,
Did you read that story on the 'net? A female elementary school teacher
had a
concealed weapon license to carry a pistol. One day when she sat down on
a toilet,
the gun discharged and blew up the toilet..... This is not good, is it?

On 10/04/2014 08:36 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/4/2014 6:51 PM, nestork wrote:
Actually, I was going to mention that the shooting of Alton Nolan, the
recently converted Jihadist, in Moore, Oklahoma, is a perfect example of
where a gun in the right hands actually worked the way it's supposed
to.

Alton Nolan had already beheaded one female co-worker and was attacking
a second when the chief operating officer of the company, a special
deputy in the local police force, shot him before he could kill that
second female co-worker. As it stands, she was only stabbed but is
expected to make a full recovery.

I'm not "pro-gun" at all, but I recognize this case as one in which a
properly armed and trained good guy was able to intervene in a disaster
in the making and prevent it from getting worse. Were it not for that
guy using his gun to stop Alton Nolan, then Vaughan Foods could have
been in the headlines as yet another massacre of innocent people;
something that the USA has seen too many of in the past few years.

The gun holder was off duty (retired?) LEO,
and many gun haters think it's OK since it's
a government gun.


.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
Hi,
Did you read that story on the 'net? A female elementary school teacher
had a
concealed weapon license to carry a pistol. One day when she sat down on
a toilet,
the gun discharged and blew up the toilet..... This is not good, is it?


Hi Tony,

Funny! I wonder if she was ****ed at the toilet.

The lives firearms save vs the lives firearm accidents take
is about 20 to 1.

-T

On 10/04/2014 08:31 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
We already received 2nd snow fall.

Hi TOny,

Do you have a garden?

The first freeze messes up my garden something awful.

We have snow on our mountains.

-T

On 10/04/2014 01:41 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:55:48 -0500, "ChairMan"
wrote:

Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted


Pico tried to get on my case in the Ferguson, Missouri, shooting case
by a LEO. Tried to tell me about laws or that I should check the law.
I pointed out that I'm retired LEO and understand certain laws on use
of force. Application of that force and when to administer it in a
judicial way. Told him of a case when a Nigerian Prince took a break
down.

I've tried to help Julie. At times I get the impression she wants to
be or play the victim. Often replies to me are "yes but". Any excuse
to what she did not do to fix what was suggested.

Men use logic, females can get dramatic - it complicates things!


Don't put her in the same category with normal women. When
it comes to her, think Normandy on D-Day, only those
guys got to be in France! She is like a 20 on the 1 to
10 crazy scale.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
On 10/4/2014 7:39 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

You've got that right. He is very set in his opinions on seemingly
everything and it's either his way or get put in his kill-file. And
that's really all that any of this is. His opinions. But why in the
world either he or Pico would drag up stuff that went on in another
newsgroup to here is beyond me. Both just seem to love stirring up
trouble. I only brought it up because he did it to me first. Not that
he'll even see any of this because he does have me kill-filed. I just
thought he was off doing other things and not on Usenet. Apparently
not. But the more I think about this... Since you mentioned religion,
that may well be *why* he is being mean to that other woman. Religion.
She is of one that is not his.

I'm far less than perfect, in people matters.
Can't remember all the gambits and counter
moves, and who said what, and when. But, the
general impression from my memory is that
Julie B has been sincere, and seeking infor-
mation. Less sure about the sincerity of the
others you mention.

As people are usually consistent, it's easy
to imagine that the same Todd who pounded on
my head with a rolled up news paper would
pound some one else.

Yep! And I did come here trying to understand the problems I was having but
I dislike being called crazy and having other posters telling people not to
respond to me. So unless my name should come up here again and I hope it
will not, I will be getting my information elsewhere and I will try not to
post here. It's apparently just not a pleasant place. At least in not in
terms of some of the posters. And again, thanks to those who did try to
help.

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:55:48 -0500, "ChairMan"
wrote:

Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted


Pico tried to get on my case in the Ferguson, Missouri, shooting case
by a LEO. Tried to tell me about laws or that I should check the law.
I pointed out that I'm retired LEO and understand certain laws on use
of force. Application of that force and when to administer it in a
judicial way. Told him of a case when a Nigerian Prince took a break
down.

I've tried to help Julie. At times I get the impression she wants to
be or play the victim. Often replies to me are "yes but". Any excuse
to what she did not do to fix what was suggested.

Men use logic, females can get dramatic - it complicates things!
--
I like Guns and Titties

I wasn't about to fix those things myself. I can fix some things. I did
call repair people. I was merely trying to understand why I was having the
problems. And I hardly think I was getting dramatic.

"Todd" wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2014 01:41 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:55:48 -0500, "ChairMan"
wrote:

Ed never said anything remotely to what you posted


Pico tried to get on my case in the Ferguson, Missouri, shooting case
by a LEO. Tried to tell me about laws or that I should check the law.
I pointed out that I'm retired LEO and understand certain laws on use
of force. Application of that force and when to administer it in a
judicial way. Told him of a case when a Nigerian Prince took a break
down.

I've tried to help Julie. At times I get the impression she wants to
be or play the victim. Often replies to me are "yes but". Any excuse
to what she did not do to fix what was suggested.

Men use logic, females can get dramatic - it complicates things!


Don't put her in the same category with normal women. When
it comes to her, think Normandy on D-Day, only those
guys got to be in France! She is like a 20 on the 1 to
10 crazy scale.

And where did you get your Psyche degree? I did take Psyche 101 and my mom
was a counselor so I think that probably trumps you. And while I won't drag
your antics elsewhere into *this* group, you are far, far, far from normal.

"Guv Bob" wrote in message
m...
"Julie Bove" wrote in message
...

SNIP

The new installers said that most of the companies in this area and not
just
garage doors but other types of repairs are run by some guy or people in a
call center, not necessarily even in this state. They outsource to
foreign
people. The older guy's wife once followed up on a company that
outsources
to Mexicans and found their address to be a Dairy Queen.

Every since getting online, I check licenses for any contractors to see if
there are outstanding complaints and that are bonded, have insurance and, if
they have employees, workers comp. Except for very small chores, I get 3
references - recent and a few years back, and check them all out.

I had a plumber quote me a hot water heater installation that as mostly a
rooter guy, and didn't know enough for a water heater job. I ended up
getting someone else. Later I called that first one for rooting and he had
sold the business and moved out of state 3 years ago. Meanwhile, the guy who
bought the company had closed it and was just doing work on the side of his
regular job. From what I've seen, a lot of these companies come and go.

===

The main problem with the door saga was that I had just gotten out of the
hospital. I won't get into all of that here but I had nearly died and was
very weak plus even more disabled than usual because I was still recovering
from a foot operation.

While I had been in the hospital, my sister in law accidentally broke the
last working door opener that we had. So she was going to have my brother
call the company I eventually did go to to put it right to install a new
opener, give us three remotes for the cars and install a wireless keypad.
And from there it all goes South.

Somehow those people couldn't do the job then nor did they know when they
could get to it so my brother called this other place that he said came
highly rated. I have since looked for any sort of ratings about them and
can find none except for my complaint to the BBB.

And because I was weak, still very ill and trying to recover, I couldn't go
out there and oversee what was going on. Plus my husband already paid the
company half of the money before they even did the job. I would not have
given them a dime until the job was completed.

To make matters worse, my husband just left. He wants nothing to do with
waiting around or overseeing anything. I begged him to stay. And my
daughter was in school that day. So I couldn't do much except to hobble
into the garage from time to time and make numerous phone calls to the
supervisor when I saw many things going wrong. And the installer who was
Middle Eastern was merely dismissing me as being a woman who knows nothing.
I hate to sterotype but I had a roommate with a Middle Eastern boyfriend.
He and his friends could be very rude to us because that is just how they
treat women. Not all of them I am sure. I am sure some will change their
ways once they have been in this country for a while but... He was one of
the sterotypical ones who does not hold women in high regard so I could see
that I was getting nowhere with him. Such as when I pointed out the loose
wires and the fact that the unit was shaking so hard it looked like it was
about to fall down. He just said words in some other language, made some
wild hand movements towards me and said that it just had to be that way.

Over the course of about three weeks they eventually came back a few times
and attempted to put the job right but I seriously doubt that any one of
them is actually capable of doing that. I didn't even have the right
lightbulb in there! First guy said any bulb would do but the last person
said not to put the CFL bulbs in there because they break too easily. He
also said that a 100 watt bulb could melt the plastic cover.

Anyway... That stupid nightmare is over now.

Next job is to get the house painted but I know that the painter is good.
He lives right behind me and I know his work! Plus my daughter goes to
school with his daughter. So if something should go wrong, at least I know
where to find him.

On 10/4/2014 11:36 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi,
Did you read that story on the 'net? A female elementary school teacher
had a
concealed weapon license to carry a pistol. One day when she sat down on
a toilet,
the gun discharged and blew up the toilet..... This is not good, is it?

I'd not read that. I doubt it, though.
Doesn't sound reasonable.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 10/5/2014 2:09 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

Yep! And I did come here trying to understand the problems I was having
but I dislike being called crazy and having other posters telling people
not to respond to me. So unless my name should come up here again and I
hope it will not, I will be getting my information elsewhere and I will
try not to post here. It's apparently just not a pleasant place. At
least in not in terms of some of the posters. And again, thanks to
those who did try to help.

For sure, that doesn't sound like a pleasant experience.
The old folk song singers used to sing about one bad
apple don't spoil the whole bunch. But, in this case,
perhaps one does?

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 10/4/2014 11:27 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Oren wrote:


Ed is always calm, I've not got that far. He has been married almost
as I have been alive.

Hmmm,
How many years of marriage? Married in 1969, both of us are still
here. As a die hard Catholic divorce is not in our mind ever. She was
a novice nun at 19. I dragged her out of convent, LOL!

Have you beat by 3 years. Still on wife #1. When she turned 60 I was
going to trade her for two 30 year olds, but decided to keep her anyway.

On Sunday, October 5, 2014 4:25:41 AM UTC-7, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/4/2014 11:36 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi,
Did you read that story on the 'net? A female elementary school teacher
had a
concealed weapon license to carry a pistol. One day when she sat down on
a toilet,
the gun discharged and blew up the toilet..... This is not good, is it?

I'd not read that. I doubt it, though.
Doesn't sound reasonable.

I read it and have a vague recollection that I read it in the newspaper. It is quite possible with a dropped weapon, snagged trigger, etc. Weird accidents commonly happen with weapons (and other tools).

Harry K

Todd wrote:
On 10/04/2014 08:31 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
We already received 2nd snow fall.

Hi TOny,

Do you have a garden?

The first freeze messes up my garden something awful.

We have snow on our mountains.

-T
Hi,
Yes, sort of, on a palm size city lot. Back yard is all concrete pad I
used park fiver there.
One side yard is full of wild edible vegetables/herbs. Few fruit trees,
TOO MANY delpheniums growing every where. We plant veges. in an old oak
barrel cut in half filled
with compost. All summer, green peppers, zucchini, cukes, green onion,
beans,chad, lettuce,tomato etc. are growing enough for two of us. About
dozen of those half barrels which came from local distillery. Wife is
green thumb indoor/outdoor. Out at cabin we tender wild flower bed. We
use collected/stored rain water for watering. Some hardy rose
bushes which still have some flowers. In the morning it is frosty
lately. Today, about 20C. Tomorrow heading out for hiking upto 4000 feet
level in the Rockies taking wife's
god mother visiting us from back home, Seoul, Korea.

On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 07:25:41 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 10/4/2014 11:36 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi,
Did you read that story on the 'net? A female elementary school teacher
had a
concealed weapon license to carry a pistol. One day when she sat down on
a toilet,
the gun discharged and blew up the toilet..... This is not good, is it?

I'd not read that. I doubt it, though.
Doesn't sound reasonable.

I bet that scared the **** out of her!

On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 00:51:14 +0200, nestork
wrote:

Actually, I was going to mention that the shooting of Alton Nolan, the
recently converted Jihadist, in Moore, Oklahoma, is a perfect example of
where a gun in the right hands actually worked the way it's supposed
to.

I'm not sure what you mean by "supposed to." Guns are used everyday
to prevent or deter crimes, protection of self, family, and others. It
is a moral responsibility as I see it.

Alton Nolan had already beheaded one female co-worker and was attacking
a second when the chief operating officer of the company, a special
deputy in the local police force, shot him before he could kill that
second female co-worker. As it stands, she was only stabbed but is
expected to make a full recovery.

The scum bag should have been carried out in a body bag. You call the
morgue first, to pick him up - not 911 emergency. Police are always
minutes away; plus, they are not required to protect you. Their main
job is to solve crime after the fact.

I'm not "pro-gun" at all, but I recognize this case as one in which a
properly armed and trained good guy was able to intervene in a disaster
in the making and prevent it from getting worse. Were it not for that
guy using his gun to stop Alton Nolan, then Vaughan Foods could have
been in the headlines as yet another massacre of innocent people;
something that the USA has seen too many of in the past few years.

Decent ordinary law abiding citizens take responsibility, take
training and practice safe gun rules, everyday.

The COO could have saved the state an awful lot of money by simply
killin' the sum beach! He needed killin'.

On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 20:29:21 -0700, Todd wrote:

Here is a nice article about it from Thomas Sowell:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...es_117747.html

Outstanding! He sums up the gun grabbers in the last paragraph :-)

"The gun control crusade today is like the Prohibition crusade 100
years ago. It is a shared zealotry that binds the self-righteous
know-it-alls in a warm fellowship of those who see themselves as
fighting on the side of the angels against the forces of evil. It is a
lofty role that they are not about to give up for anything so mundane
as facts-- or even the lives of other people."

On 10/5/2014 7:25 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/4/2014 11:36 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi,
Did you read that story on the 'net? A female elementary school teacher
had a
concealed weapon license to carry a pistol. One day when she sat down on
a toilet,
the gun discharged and blew up the toilet..... This is not good, is it?

I'd not read that. I doubt it, though.
Doesn't sound reasonable.


It even happens to Barney Fife.

http://woodtv.com/2014/10/03/report-...ce-department/

The **** the officer is going to take when he goes back to work will be more far more painful than the gunshot wound.

On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:46:02 -0400, Buck wrote:

It even happens to Barney Fife.

http://woodtv.com/2014/10/03/report-...ce-department/


"... accidentally shot himself in the hand while cleaning his gun ..."
is bull crap. How about calling negligence? That's what is was.

The **** the officer is going to take when he goes back to work will be more far more painful than the gunshot wound.

You bet. Peers can be tough on him. Maybe nickname him "Shooter" or
"One Shot Pete".

"Buck" wrote in message
eb.com...
It even happens to Barney Fife.

http://woodtv.com/2014/10/03/report-...ce-department/

The **** the officer is going to take when he goes back to work will be
more far more painful than the gunshot wound.



Why would it take a large number of responders, even a fire truck for that.
Just wrap his hand in something to keep it from getting blood all over
things and take him on to the emergency room in a car.



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On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 14:01:02 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"Buck" wrote in message
web.com...
It even happens to Barney Fife.

http://woodtv.com/2014/10/03/report-...ce-department/

The **** the officer is going to take when he goes back to work will be
more far more painful than the gunshot wound.



Why would it take a large number of responders, even a fire truck for that.
Just wrap his hand in something to keep it from getting blood all over
things and take him on to the emergency room in a car.


Either because he's special, it was a slow news day, or the journalist
exaggerated?

Harry K wrote:

I read it and have a vague recollection that I read it in the newspaper.
It is quite possible with a dropped weapon, snagged trigger, etc. Weird
accidents commonly happen with weapons (and other tools).

There have been a few incidents of people carefully removing their concealed
handguns when dropping their trousers -- and then forgetting them when they
leave.

On Sunday, October 5, 2014 12:28:53 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
"Guv Bob" wrote in message

m...

"Julie Bove" wrote in message

Anyway... That stupid nightmare is over now.

Next job is to get the house painted but I know that the painter is good.

He lives right behind me and I know his work! Plus my daughter goes to

school with his daughter. So if something should go wrong, at least I know

where to find him.

May I suggest a nice phosphorescent orange color for your house...as it seems to be a hazard zone in many ways.
===

On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 21:36:10 -0600, Tony Hwang wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/4/2014 6:51 PM, nestork wrote:
Actually, I was going to mention that the shooting of Alton Nolan, the
recently converted Jihadist, in Moore, Oklahoma, is a perfect example of
where a gun in the right hands actually worked the way it's supposed
to.

Alton Nolan had already beheaded one female co-worker and was attacking
a second when the chief operating officer of the company, a special
deputy in the local police force, shot him before he could kill that
second female co-worker. As it stands, she was only stabbed but is
expected to make a full recovery.

I'm not "pro-gun" at all, but I recognize this case as one in which a
properly armed and trained good guy was able to intervene in a disaster
in the making and prevent it from getting worse. Were it not for that
guy using his gun to stop Alton Nolan, then Vaughan Foods could have
been in the headlines as yet another massacre of innocent people;
something that the USA has seen too many of in the past few years.

The gun holder was off duty (retired?) LEO,
and many gun haters think it's OK since it's
a government gun.


.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
Hi,
Did you read that story on the 'net? A female elementary school teacher
had a
concealed weapon license to carry a pistol. One day when she sat down on
a toilet,
the gun discharged and blew up the toilet....

I didn't hear about the toilet but she shot herself in the leg.

. This is not good, is it?

On Sunday, October 5, 2014 1:47:19 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:

I didn't hear about the toilet but she shot herself in the leg.

mick, thanks for sparing us a 6 paragraph anecdote! ;^)

On 10/05/2014 10:16 AM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 20:29:21 -0700, Todd wrote:

Here is a nice article about it from Thomas Sowell:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...es_117747.html

Outstanding! He sums up the gun grabbers in the last paragraph :-)

"The gun control crusade today is like the Prohibition crusade 100
years ago. It is a shared zealotry that binds the self-righteous
know-it-alls in a warm fellowship of those who see themselves as
fighting on the side of the angels against the forces of evil. It is a
lofty role that they are not about to give up for anything so mundane
as facts-- or even the lives of other people."


The times I have heard Thomas Sowell speak, you have to
just stop everything you are doing and just listen.
What a breath of fresh air!

On 10/05/2014 11:09 AM, rbowman wrote:
Harry K wrote:

I read it and have a vague recollection that I read it in the newspaper.
It is quite possible with a dropped weapon, snagged trigger, etc. Weird
accidents commonly happen with weapons (and other tools).

There have been a few incidents of people carefully removing their concealed
handguns when dropping their trousers -- and then forgetting them when they
leave.

I wonder how many guns have wound up in the toilet (and cell phones)

On 10/05/2014 11:01 AM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 14:01:02 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"Buck" wrote in message
eb.com...
It even happens to Barney Fife.

http://woodtv.com/2014/10/03/report-...ce-department/

The **** the officer is going to take when he goes back to work will be
more far more painful than the gunshot wound.



Why would it take a large number of responders, even a fire truck for that.
Just wrap his hand in something to keep it from getting blood all over
things and take him on to the emergency room in a car.


Either because he's special, it was a slow news day, or the journalist
exaggerated?



No whore house on fire?

On 10/05/2014 10:10 AM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 00:51:14 +0200, nestork
wrote:

Actually, I was going to mention that the shooting of Alton Nolan, the
recently converted Jihadist, in Moore, Oklahoma, is a perfect example of
where a gun in the right hands actually worked the way it's supposed
to.

I'm not sure what you mean by "supposed to." Guns are used everyday
to prevent or deter crimes, protection of self, family, and others. It
is a moral responsibility as I see it.

Alton Nolan had already beheaded one female co-worker and was attacking
a second when the chief operating officer of the company, a special
deputy in the local police force, shot him before he could kill that
second female co-worker. As it stands, she was only stabbed but is
expected to make a full recovery.

The scum bag should have been carried out in a body bag. You call the
morgue first, to pick him up - not 911 emergency. Police are always
minutes away; plus, they are not required to protect you. Their main
job is to solve crime after the fact.

I'm not "pro-gun" at all, but I recognize this case as one in which a
properly armed and trained good guy was able to intervene in a disaster
in the making and prevent it from getting worse. Were it not for that
guy using his gun to stop Alton Nolan, then Vaughan Foods could have
been in the headlines as yet another massacre of innocent people;
something that the USA has seen too many of in the past few years.

Decent ordinary law abiding citizens take responsibility, take
training and practice safe gun rules, everyday.

The COO could have saved the state an awful lot of money by simply
killin' the sum beach! He needed killin'.


1+

On 10/05/2014 10:56 AM, Oren wrote:
"... accidentally shot himself in the hand while cleaning his gun ..."
is bull crap. How about calling negligence? That's what is was.

Hi Oren,

The first thing I do when I clean my gun(s) is verify
it is unloaded. Remove the magazine, pull back the
slide, look down the magazine hole for light, look down the
barrel for light. I do this regardless of what I think
the state of the weapon is. Then I lay it down on my
table and get to it.

When someone hands me their weapon, I do the same
thing. Sort of like a ritual. They do the same thing
when I hand it back. And I never put my finger in the
trigger guard, unless I intend to pull the trigger.
(Dry firing is bad manners, unless the owner tells
you to go ahead and feel the trigger pull, etc..)

Is it just me, or when you hear "cleaning his gun" do you
wonder what really happened? From your LEO days, do
your alarm bells go off?

-T