J Burns wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:36:21 -0400:

I suppose they mean not to keep it in your trunk. When I fetch gas in
the car, I like to keep it up front, where I can see or smell any problem.

Legally, in California, you can carry up to 600 pounds (yes, pounds) of
hazardous materials in your car (or truck) without needing a special
permit. That's more gasoline than you can carry.

In NY, I believe it's 25 gallons, which is less gasoline than you can carry.
I can carry about 50 gallons in my trunk, for example.

J Burns wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:36:21 -0400:

Several states say they aren't legal for storing gas. I
wonder why not.

Probably because they're not airtight?

I've read the spec, but it has been a while since, so, what I
remember is that it can lose almost nothing (in ounces) after
so many days at such and such a temperature outside.

BobMCT wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:47:29 -0400:

Then I purchased a battery operated siphon pump from
eBay for $15 and it pumps 5 gals in about 3 mins and there are zero
spills. I wish one could buy simple caps for these, though.

I siphon all the time, as the wife hates to fill up at the gas station.
It takes me about 4 minutes and change to empty five gallons off the
roof of her car, but I use a ten-foot clear hose, of about 1/2 inch ID
and use mouth suction.

Every once in a while, it gets me.

I've learned a few tricks, such as having three hoses so that I can do
three five-gallon cans in sequence without breathing in any vapors.

On 9/11/14, 12:49 AM, Danny D. wrote:
J Burns wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:36:21 -0400:

I suppose they mean not to keep it in your trunk. When I fetch gas in
the car, I like to keep it up front, where I can see or smell any problem.

Legally, in California, you can carry up to 600 pounds (yes, pounds) of
hazardous materials in your car (or truck) without needing a special
permit. That's more gasoline than you can carry.

In NY, I believe it's 25 gallons, which is less gasoline than you can carry.
I can carry about 50 gallons in my trunk, for example.

A couple of weeks ago, a hospital security official informed police he
suspected a man of having gas in his trunk. They went for a warrant.
The judge said if they suspected gas in a trunk, it was a public
emergency and they didn't need a warrant. They brought their
drug-sniffing dog, and he alerted. That guy's in big trouble now!

http://www.salemnews.com/news/local_news/article_fd9c1234-6ff6-5e2f-ab6a-dfb3d3912c71.html

I've read that if you carry gas in a trunk, you should leave the trunk
open and not combine that trip with other errands.

I put my can on the pavement before filling. If it's on the mat in a
truck bed, a spark could jump between the nozzle and the can.

On 9/11/14, 12:50 AM, Danny D. wrote:
J Burns wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:36:21 -0400:

Several states say they aren't legal for storing gas. I
wonder why not.

Probably because they're not airtight?

I've read the spec, but it has been a while since, so, what I
remember is that it can lose almost nothing (in ounces) after
so many days at such and such a temperature outside.

The one I had was airtight. The vent was a tiny hole just above the
threaded hole where the flexible metal pouring tube screwed in. When you
screwed on the steel cap, it sealed everything with a rubber washer. I
felt secure against leakage.

Plastic cans used to allow some of the volatile stuff to permeate.
Whether or not this was a pollution problem, the fuel wouldn't be as
good in the future. CARB cans are treated against permeation, I believe.

J Burns wrote, on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:46:53 -0400:

A couple of weeks ago, a hospital security official informed police he
suspected a man of having gas in his trunk. They went for a warrant.
The judge said if they suspected gas in a trunk, it was a public
emergency and they didn't need a warrant.

Since I carry 50 gallons of gas on my trunk all the time, and, since
I've checked with the fire marshal & OSHA regulations for storage,
and since I've checked with the CHP for transportation, I was
surprised at what you wrote ... but ... if you read the article,
you find he had completely assembled molotov cocktails in his car.

In addition, while you mentioned the "hospital security official",
you didn't note that the perpetrator was a patient in their
psychiatric ward, who had expressed €œhomicidal tendencies€�,
according to the article and that a crossbow was in the car
in addition to 25 molotov cocktails.

So, I wouldn't exactly characterize what the police termed
"entirely assembled molotov cocktails" on the same level as
someone transporting 10 five-gallon cans of gasoline in approved
containers.

Danny D. wrote:
Bob F wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:48:40 -0700:

It is way easier to use than any can I've had previously.

You must live on a different planet.

Or, I am capable of figuring out how things work, instead of just whining about
how bad they are.

On 9/11/14, 2:02 AM, Danny D. wrote:
J Burns wrote, on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:46:53 -0400:

A couple of weeks ago, a hospital security official informed police he
suspected a man of having gas in his trunk. They went for a warrant.
The judge said if they suspected gas in a trunk, it was a public
emergency and they didn't need a warrant.

Since I carry 50 gallons of gas on my trunk all the time, and, since
I've checked with the fire marshal & OSHA regulations for storage,
and since I've checked with the CHP for transportation, I was
surprised at what you wrote ... but ... if you read the article,
you find he had completely assembled molotov cocktails in his car.

In addition, while you mentioned the "hospital security official",
you didn't note that the perpetrator was a patient in their
psychiatric ward, who had expressed €œhomicidal tendencies€�,
according to the article and that a crossbow was in the car
in addition to 25 molotov cocktails.

So, I wouldn't exactly characterize what the police termed
"entirely assembled molotov cocktails" on the same level as
someone transporting 10 five-gallon cans of gasoline in approved
containers.



I wouldn't want to carry 50 gallons of gas in my trunk in consumer cans
all the time. I'm sure no trucker would bump my trunk on purpose, but
plastic cans may deteriorate and crack. It reminds me of the line from
Young Frankenstein: "A riot is a terrible thing once it gets started."

I wasn't aware of it, but some military jerry cans were plastic. The
National Forest Service, National Parks Service, and Bureau of Land
Management, have prohibited the plastic ones since 2012 except in
sal****er environments. They specify metal jerry cans meeting
specification UN 3A1. For transportation, they recommend replacing the
self-closing lid with a bung.

I'll put that on my shopping list.

Frank wrote:

On 9/10/2014 2:10 PM, wrote:
I don't know if this design of this gas can is the result of the Florida law suit or not, but the gas can I just purchased was committee designed.

It has no vent - it takes forever to dispense (gurgle gurgle gurgle)
You are required to push the nozzle down to open. Because
of the mechanics you can't drain it (5 gallon model... about 1 gal left). The seal is a cheap rubber gasket with a grove that rolls over and self destructs if you twist the nozzle - leak leak leak.

If there is ever a revolution, we really do need to kill all the lawyers.

(went back to find a simple "old school" can... couldn't find one)


When the EPA officials who mandated this can die and go to hell their
punishment should be to have to use these cans.

The most recent design I've seen is a normal-ish push lever valve that
works fine once you take a pair of pliers and rip out the stupid little
lock tab you otherwise have to flip each time you use it.

"Danny D." writes:

BobMCT wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:47:29 -0400:

Then I purchased a battery operated siphon pump from
eBay for $15 and it pumps 5 gals in about 3 mins and there are zero
spills. I wish one could buy simple caps for these, though.

I siphon all the time, as the wife hates to fill up at the gas station.
It takes me about 4 minutes and change to empty five gallons off the
roof of her car, but I use a ten-foot clear hose, of about 1/2 inch ID
and use mouth suction.

Every once in a while, it gets me.

I've learned a few tricks, such as having three hoses so that I can do
three five-gallon cans in sequence without breathing in any vapors.

Hey, I remember the guy with the nutty wife story.
Seriously, instead of enabling nuttiness, you should be
doing something to stop it.

50 gallons of gas is around 400 pounds. That does wonders for
your gas mileage, and is seriously dangerous. We just had a woman
die in NJ, partly due to gas fumes in her car. Those cans can easily
rupture in an accident.

--
Dan Espen

Dan Espen wrote, on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:37:28 -0400:

50 gallons of gas is around 400 pounds. That does wonders for
your gas mileage, and is seriously dangerous. We just had a woman
die in NJ, partly due to gas fumes in her car. Those cans can easily
rupture in an accident.

A kid got bitten by a mountain lion last Sunday here in the Silicon
Valley. A truck ran over 11 cars, and killed one guy on highway 17
about a month ago. There are something like 22 murders in San Jose
to date.

Life was never perfectly safe, but, still, the chance of blowing up
in an accident, while it is non zero, is probably less than that of
getting bitten by a rattlesnake out here (which almost happened to
me just last week).

Besides, if it's any consolation, Myth Busters had a devil of a
time blowing up a Cadillac. IIRC, they had to resort to incendiary
bullets, and the spilled gas wouldn't ignite from a cigarette.

Of course, gasoline vapor *does* explode, but, luckily, the cans
*do* seal the gasoline in pretty well, so, given I'm at retirement
age and I've never had even a fender bender in my life, the odds
are pretty good that I'm not going to get into an accident on my
way home from the gas station.

People who are that afraid, by the way, shouldn't drive, just as
if people are that afraid of poison oak, ticks, west nile virus,
ebola, rattlers, black widow spiders, etc., shouldn't walk outside.

Can you correct that aspect of the design by simply drilling a hole in the can and installing a self tapping screw? If you use a screw with a slot drive head, you could use a coin or small key to remove the screw when using the gas can.

"Danny D." writes:

Dan Espen wrote, on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:37:28 -0400:

50 gallons of gas is around 400 pounds. That does wonders for
your gas mileage, and is seriously dangerous. We just had a woman
die in NJ, partly due to gas fumes in her car. Those cans can easily
rupture in an accident.

A kid got bitten by a mountain lion last Sunday here in the Silicon
Valley. A truck ran over 11 cars, and killed one guy on highway 17
about a month ago. There are something like 22 murders in San Jose
to date.

Life was never perfectly safe, but, still, the chance of blowing up
in an accident, while it is non zero, is probably less than that of
getting bitten by a rattlesnake out here (which almost happened to
me just last week).

Besides, if it's any consolation, Myth Busters had a devil of a
time blowing up a Cadillac. IIRC, they had to resort to incendiary
bullets, and the spilled gas wouldn't ignite from a cigarette.

Of course, gasoline vapor *does* explode, but, luckily, the cans
*do* seal the gasoline in pretty well, so, given I'm at retirement
age and I've never had even a fender bender in my life, the odds
are pretty good that I'm not going to get into an accident on my
way home from the gas station.

People who are that afraid, by the way, shouldn't drive, just as
if people are that afraid of poison oak, ticks, west nile virus,
ebola, rattlers, black widow spiders, etc., shouldn't walk outside.

Afraid?

Are you referring to someone afraid to fill up at a gas station?

I'm not afraid, just pointing out that gas cans in your car is
cause for concern.

--
Dan Espen

On 9/10/2014 11:42 PM, Danny D. wrote:
Unquestionably Confused wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:19:20 -0500:

I don't have any difficulty with a 5 gallon container, but my wife does.

Have you ever tried pouring five gallons of gas into an automobile?

No, I haven't and for the exact reason you give.

Using the plastic 5 gallon cans with or without the screwed up spouts,
it's not all that difficult to fill the Bobcat's tanks as they are at a
convenient height and provide easy access to the fill neck. AAMOF, of
late once I get the first gallon into the tank from a full can, I just
set it down and remove the spout altogether. With the installed valve
stem vent open, I just pour it into the tank without a funnel. The
angle and the wide mouth filler neck make it a snap.

As for him that said he pours out five gallons in 20 seconds...
Bull****! You couldn't empty a five gallon can on the ground in that
time let alone into a fuel tank.

Is there some Department of Transportation regulation that requires gas cans to be red and the corresponding cans for diesel fuel to be yellow?

It does occur to me that every Wedco plastic gas container I've ever seen has been red in colour, but it never crossed my mind that it was SUPPOSED to be red.

And, is there any reason for this? Why would making the gas containers red in colour provide for better safety in any way? Also, it seems to me that military vehicles would NOT want their gas containers to be red because it would nullify all of their efforts in camoflaging their vehicles to make them less conspicuous.

wrote in
:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 03:28:21 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
wrote:

wrote in
news
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:25:47 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

up to 3 gallons a minute

So you will take 15 minutes to dump 5 gallons in your boat?

Ummmmm....no, that's 3 gallons per minute, not 3 minutes per
gallon.

At 3 gallons per minute, it would take one minute and forty
seconds to dispense 5 gallons.

Still a long time. With a funnel it is more like 20 seconds

Time it. I think you'll find it's a lot more than 20 seconds.

On 9/11/14, 11:16 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 9/10/2014 11:42 PM, Danny D. wrote:
Unquestionably Confused wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:19:20 -0500:

I don't have any difficulty with a 5 gallon container, but my wife does.

Have you ever tried pouring five gallons of gas into an automobile?

No, I haven't and for the exact reason you give.

Using the plastic 5 gallon cans with or without the screwed up spouts,
it's not all that difficult to fill the Bobcat's tanks as they are at a
convenient height and provide easy access to the fill neck. AAMOF, of
late once I get the first gallon into the tank from a full can, I just
set it down and remove the spout altogether. With the installed valve
stem vent open, I just pour it into the tank without a funnel. The
angle and the wide mouth filler neck make it a snap.

As for him that said he pours out five gallons in 20 seconds...
Bull****! You couldn't empty a five gallon can on the ground in that
time let alone into a fuel tank.


I sometimes pour gas into my riding mower without screwing the spout on,
but it pours a lot faster with the spout. Head supplies the energy to
make a liquid flow. With no spout, I have a fraction of an inch of
head. With a 10" spout pointed down, I have several inches of head.

If I were to pour the gas into a funnel, I wouldn't have much head in
the can or in the funnel.

Head supplies the energy to accelerate a liquid. Accelerated to a given
speed, 4 times more will flow through a 1" opening than through a 1/2"
opening. You can dump a can fastest if the spout has the largest
opening that will fit your tank.

Turbulence slows flow. If a spout is tapered, being as wide as possible
where it fastens to the can, it will cause less turbulence than a
straight tube. Corrugations will cause turbulence.

Viscosity slows flow. If I entered a gas-pouring race, I'd let the can
get hot in the sun before pouring.

On 9/11/2014 11:14 AM, nestork wrote:

;3282468 Wrote:


...It is not a DOT approved container ... and probably not red.

I had a guy screw with me once about putting gas in a diesel can and
that is the same can, just yellow.

Is there some Department of Transportation regulation that requires gas
cans to be red and the corresponding cans for diesel fuel to be yellow?

It does occur to me that every Wedco plastic gas container I've ever
seen has been red in colour, but it never crossed my mind that it was
SUPPOSED to be red.

And, is there any reason for this?

I found numerous references in government sites (CA and VA, for
instance) mandating red for gasoline, yellow for diesel and blue for
kerosene. Can't find the federal standard but you can bet your bippy
it's there someplace.

Reason? To make it very clear what's in the container of course. All
you have to worry about is the guy who puts gasoline in the kerosene
container or diesel in the gasoline containterg

On 9/11/14, 12:14 PM, nestork wrote:

;3282468 Wrote:


...It is not a DOT approved container ... and probably not red.

I had a guy screw with me once about putting gas in a diesel can and
that is the same can, just yellow.

Is there some Department of Transportation regulation that requires gas
cans to be red and the corresponding cans for diesel fuel to be yellow?

It does occur to me that every Wedco plastic gas container I've ever
seen has been red in colour, but it never crossed my mind that it was
SUPPOSED to be red.

And, is there any reason for this?

A neighbor didn't care about can colors. When she lit her kerosene
heater, it became obvious that she'd filled it with gasoline. She
escaped injury, but the mobile home she was fixing to rent, was destroyed.

On 09/11/2014 11:14 AM, nestork wrote:

;3282468 Wrote:


...It is not a DOT approved container ... and probably not red.

I had a guy screw with me once about putting gas in a diesel can and
that is the same can, just yellow.

Is there some Department of Transportation regulation that requires gas
cans to be red and the corresponding cans for diesel fuel to be yellow?

Not Fed DOT that I'm aware of but CA CARB does require portable
red/yellow/blue for gasoline/diesel/kerosene. Hence, manufacturers must
follow suit to sell product in California...

--

http://ezpourspout.com/order/order-fuel-spouts/
http://ezpourspout.com/order/order-fuel-spouts/
http://ezpourspout.com/order/order-fuel-spouts/
http://ezpourspout.com/order/order-fuel-spouts/ !!!!

And they have them down at the local True Value. Let's see - the can is
now over $30. God I hate experts.

dpb writes:
On 09/11/2014 11:14 AM, nestork wrote:

;3282468 Wrote:


...It is not a DOT approved container ... and probably not red.

I had a guy screw with me once about putting gas in a diesel can and
that is the same can, just yellow.

Is there some Department of Transportation regulation that requires gas
cans to be red and the corresponding cans for diesel fuel to be yellow?

Not Fed DOT that I'm aware of but CA CARB does require portable
red/yellow/blue for gasoline/diesel/kerosene. Hence, manufacturers must
follow suit to sell product in California...

Not just california, iowa too:

http://www.doolittleoil.com/faq/why-...as-cans-be-red

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:50:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

http://ezpourspout.com/order/order-fuel-spouts/

And they have them down at the local True Value. Let's see - the can is
now over $30. God I hate experts.

Those spouts fit cans prior to 2009... have a spark arrestor and a
vent...

Video:

http://ezpourspout.com/ksdk-video/

On 9/11/2014 12:26 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 9/11/2014 11:14 AM, nestork wrote:
Is there some Department of Transportation regulation that requires gas
cans to be red and the corresponding cans for diesel fuel to be yellow?

It does occur to me that every Wedco plastic gas container I've ever
seen has been red in colour, but it never crossed my mind that it was
SUPPOSED to be red.

And, is there any reason for this?

I found numerous references in government sites (CA and VA, for
instance) mandating red for gasoline, yellow for diesel and blue for
kerosene. Can't find the federal standard but you can bet your bippy
it's there someplace.

Reason? To make it very clear what's in the container of course. All
you have to worry about is the guy who puts gasoline in the kerosene
container or diesel in the gasoline containterg

I've heard that using gasoline in a diesel
engine does MAJOR damage. I've found that
disel in a gas engine doesn't run well at
all.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 9/11/2014 12:31 PM, J Burns wrote:
A neighbor didn't care about can colors. When she lit her kerosene
heater, it became obvious that she'd filled it with gasoline. She
escaped injury, but the mobile home she was fixing to rent, was destroyed.


I've heard that wick lanterns will go super
nova if run on Coleman fuel. The metal frame
"rail road" lanterns do that. Or, so I'm told.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 09/11/2014 12:44 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
writes:
....

Not Fed DOT that I'm aware of but CA CARB does require portable
red/yellow/blue for gasoline/diesel/kerosene. Hence, manufacturers must
follow suit to sell product in California...

Not just california, iowa too:

http://www.doolittleoil.com/faq/why-...as-cans-be-red

I doubt the IA market on its own would drive many manufacturers to make
the shift...

--

On 9/11/14, 1:50 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:50:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

http://ezpourspout.com/order/order-fuel-spouts/

And they have them down at the local True Value. Let's see - the can is
now over $30. God I hate experts.

Those spouts fit cans prior to 2009... have a spark arrestor and a
vent...

Video:

http://ezpourspout.com/ksdk-video/

I was 10 when an 11-year-old friend got his father's thin metal gallon
gas can from the lawn mower shed to feed a smoldering fire in the
incinerator (a 55-gallon drum). I was horrified, but speaking up
wouldn't have helped.

I felt a certain sense of vindication when the can caught fire. He
thought he could put it out by whirling like a top. Burning gas spewed
out. He threw the can. The fire went out. I decided I loved spark
arrestors.

Nowadays I live next to a fireman. More than once when he was impatient
with a bonfire of brush wood and wooden trash, I've seen him walk up
with a 2-1/2 gallon gas can and pour gas on it. Even if he'd thrown a
paper cup of gas on the coals, where there was no danger of a can
catching fire, that would have been appalling. I guess the fire
department keeps the rescue squad in business.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
wrote in
:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 03:28:21 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
wrote:

wrote in
news
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:25:47 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

up to 3 gallons a minute

So you will take 15 minutes to dump 5 gallons in your boat?

Ummmmm....no, that's 3 gallons per minute, not 3 minutes per
gallon.

At 3 gallons per minute, it would take one minute and forty
seconds to dispense 5 gallons.

Still a long time. With a funnel it is more like 20 seconds

Time it. I think you'll find it's a lot more than 20 seconds.

of course, an easy 40 seconds is better than a PITA less than 40 seconds.

Per Guv Bob:
I might (not saying I would - just might) consider drilling a 1/16-inch breathing hole, and when finished pouring the water out, I might thread an eyebolt into to it to seal it up

Couple days ago, I received 5 of these: http://tinyurl.com/llec2lf

They seem to work - with the caution that you need to use a conventional
high-speed drill bit and not a spade bit. Get a hunk of similar
polyethylene and try the drill you are going to use first.
--
Pete Cresswell

Per :
Use a funnel and throw that spout away.

Am I the only one that gets scared just thinking about a spark or
something while pouring gasoline into a funnel?
--
Pete Cresswell

On 9/11/14, 2:27 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 9/11/14, 1:50 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:50:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

http://ezpourspout.com/order/order-fuel-spouts/

And they have them down at the local True Value. Let's see - the can is
now over $30. God I hate experts.

Those spouts fit cans prior to 2009... have a spark arrestor and a
vent...

Video:

http://ezpourspout.com/ksdk-video/

I was 10 when an 11-year-old friend got his father's thin metal gallon
gas can from the lawn mower shed to feed a smoldering fire in the
incinerator (a 55-gallon drum). I was horrified, but speaking up
wouldn't have helped.

I felt a certain sense of vindication when the can caught fire. He
thought he could put it out by whirling like a top. Burning gas spewed
out. He threw the can. The fire went out. I decided I loved spark
arrestors.

Nowadays I live next to a fireman. More than once when he was impatient
with a bonfire of brush wood and wooden trash, I've seen him walk up
with a 2-1/2 gallon gas can and pour gas on it. Even if he'd thrown a
paper cup of gas on the coals, where there was no danger of a can
catching fire, that would have been appalling. I guess the fire
department keeps the rescue squad in business.

Uh-oh, what goes in a gas-can spout is a flame arrestor, not a spark
arrestor. I wish I'd learned to use words correctly in school!

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:22:14 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

On 9/11/14, 2:27 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 9/11/14, 1:50 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:50:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

http://ezpourspout.com/order/order-fuel-spouts/

And they have them down at the local True Value. Let's see - the can is
now over $30. God I hate experts.

Those spouts fit cans prior to 2009... have a spark arrestor and a
vent...

Video:

http://ezpourspout.com/ksdk-video/

I was 10 when an 11-year-old friend got his father's thin metal gallon
gas can from the lawn mower shed to feed a smoldering fire in the
incinerator (a 55-gallon drum). I was horrified, but speaking up
wouldn't have helped.

I felt a certain sense of vindication when the can caught fire. He
thought he could put it out by whirling like a top. Burning gas spewed
out. He threw the can. The fire went out. I decided I loved spark
arrestors.

Nowadays I live next to a fireman. More than once when he was impatient
with a bonfire of brush wood and wooden trash, I've seen him walk up
with a 2-1/2 gallon gas can and pour gas on it. Even if he'd thrown a
paper cup of gas on the coals, where there was no danger of a can
catching fire, that would have been appalling. I guess the fire
department keeps the rescue squad in business.

Uh-oh, what goes in a gas-can spout is a flame arrestor, not a spark
arrestor. I wish I'd learned to use words correctly in school!

Good catch. The video did SAY flame arrestor, not a spark arrestor.
Thanks for the clarification.

On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:25:47 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

up to 3 gallons a minute

So you will take 15 minutes to dump 5 gallons in your boat? No thanks.
Use a funnel and throw that spout away.


I have 2 five gallon cans of stabilized gas for my generator and if not
used dump it in the car and get new gas. I didn't clock it but it took
a long time, maybe 15 minutes. That was the second can. For the first
I had misplaced the attachment needed for the gas tank and had to siphon
the gas. Tried with a larger funnel but was spilling gas.
These new cans are truly a PITA.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:41:45 -0400, wrote:

It goes in the tank of my boat as fast as I can pour it out of a
vented 5 gal can.
I guess I will have to actually time it if this is that important to
you. Maybe shoot it on a video for you.

Since this link came up, check the 7/8" spout. A high-flow spout for
boats, bobcats or wave runners ... and stuff

Notice the red can used on the boat dock ;-\

http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-products/all-products/hi-flow-spout/

On 9/11/2014 2:27 PM, J Burns wrote:
Nowadays I live next to a fireman. More than once when he was impatient
with a bonfire of brush wood and wooden trash, I've seen him walk up
with a 2-1/2 gallon gas can and pour gas on it. Even if he'd thrown a
paper cup of gas on the coals, where there was no danger of a can
catching fire, that would have been appalling. I guess the fire
department keeps the rescue squad in business.

I wonder some times. Well, I guess there
is stupid, and there is stupid.


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Christopher A. Young
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On 9/11/2014 3:07 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per :
Use a funnel and throw that spout away.

Am I the only one that gets scared just thinking about a spark or
something while pouring gasoline into a funnel?

I've done it for years, and not had trouble,
yet.

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Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
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Per :
I am not sure where the spark comes from,

I've had tiny holes burned in the mylar of a windsurfer sail from some
guy standing maybe 15' upwind sucking on a cigarette.
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Pete Cresswell

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:35:43 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

I wonder some times. Well, I guess there
is stupid, and there is stupid.

Well, there is felony stupid!

Just sayin' You can't fix stupid.

On 9/11/14, 4:35 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:41:45 -0400, wrote:

It goes in the tank of my boat as fast as I can pour it out of a
vented 5 gal can.
I guess I will have to actually time it if this is that important to
you. Maybe shoot it on a video for you.

Since this link came up, check the 7/8" spout. A high-flow spout for
boats, bobcats or wave runners ... and stuff

Notice the red can used on the boat dock ;-\

http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-products/all-products/hi-flow-spout/


The extension would mean that even with the can nearly empty, you'd have
16" of head to draw the fuel out in a hurry.

Two things aren't clear in the pictures.
Is any part of the spout smaller than 7/8"?
Does the extension lock, so it won't end up in the bottom of the tank?
(I'm just pondering.)

Unquestionably Confused wrote, on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:16:52 -0500:

As for him that said he pours out five gallons in 20 seconds...
Bull****! You couldn't empty a five gallon can on the ground in that
time let alone into a fuel tank.

I agree. And I fill and empty a *lot* of five-gallon gas cans!
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3892/1...7df1c083_b.jpg