Seriously thinking of changing from Farmers to AARP/Hartford car insurance
to get much cheaper rates when I upgraded my vehicle to a newer one.
Googled

AARP/Hartford auto insurance complaints

Some real stunners! Was horrified! Then tried Geico, Farmers, Progressive,
etc. Same thing. Seems there are problems with all of them? Guess I'll have
to switch to taking cabs?



--
"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

On 3/8/2014 1:04 PM, KenK wrote:
Seriously thinking of changing from Farmers to AARP/Hartford car insurance
to get much cheaper rates when I upgraded my vehicle to a newer one.
Googled

AARP/Hartford auto insurance complaints

Some real stunners! Was horrified! Then tried Geico, Farmers, Progressive,
etc. Same thing. Seems there are problems with all of them? Guess I'll have
to switch to taking cabs?



Insurance business is the biggest scam around. Insurance lobbyists have
politicians in the palm of their hands.

On 3/8/2014 1:04 PM, KenK wrote:
Seriously thinking of changing from Farmers to AARP/Hartford car insurance
to get much cheaper rates when I upgraded my vehicle to a newer one.
Googled

AARP/Hartford auto insurance complaints

Some real stunners! Was horrified! Then tried Geico, Farmers, Progressive,
etc. Same thing. Seems there are problems with all of them? Guess I'll have
to switch to taking cabs?

LOL! You can find "sworn testimony" about any subject on the internuts.

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:04:48 AM UTC-8, KenK wrote:
Seriously thinking of changing from Farmers to AARP/Hartford car insurance

to get much cheaper rates when I upgraded my vehicle to a newer one.

Googled



AARP/Hartford auto insurance complaints



Some real stunners! Was horrified! Then tried Geico, Farmers, Progressive,

etc. Same thing. Seems there are problems with all of them? Guess I'll have

to switch to taking cabs?

Yes, there are indeed problems with all of them.

I was 20 years with 20th Century (later 21st Century). Then they were bought first by ach-criminal AIG, then by Farmers. The latter screwed me over big-time (long story); I didn't even find out about it until I checked my records 2 years later. Moral; Check your records often!

As to Farmers, I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy. Wait a minute -- that's exactly who I WOULD recommend them to!!!

HB

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:24:48 AM UTC-8, SBH wrote:
On 3/8/2014 1:04 PM, KenK wrote:

Seriously thinking of changing from Farmers to AARP/Hartford car insurance

to get much cheaper rates when I upgraded my vehicle to a newer one.

Googled



AARP/Hartford auto insurance complaints



Some real stunners! Was horrified! Then tried Geico, Farmers, Progressive,

etc. Same thing. Seems there are problems with all of them? Guess I'll have

to switch to taking cabs?



Insurance business is the biggest scam around. Insurance lobbyists have

politicians in the palm of their hands.

These whores -- er, politicians -- are the ones YOU (collectively) voted into office, sometimes repeatedly. Get your ass out there and study the candidates' records. Election day is November 4.

The $$$ these corrupt lifers get from Big Insurance, Big Oil, Big Medicine, etc. is available online. All you have to do is take a few minutes to look.

My favorite source for the skinny is **Vote Smart***

THE best totally NON-PARTISAN organization that lists it ALL, so you can make up your mind.

A lot of people have to get out there to counteract the blank check the Supreme Court gave to gazillionaire reactionaries like the Koch brothers, et al via the "Citizens United" decision -- a barefaced sell-out of the voting process.

So now we have the best government money can buy. I have supposedly smart friends who are so disgusted -- as are we all!! -- that they say they don't pay attention to politics. Well, kiddies, if you don't protect your rights, they're going down the toilet! Get real!

HB

On 03/08/2014 02:25 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
So now we have the best government money can buy. I have supposedly smart friends who are so disgusted -- as are we all!! -- that they say they don't pay attention to politics. Well, kiddies, if you don't protect your rights, they're going down the toilet! Get real!

HB

The problem is that politicians are liars.
Politicians say one thing to get elected and do another once in office...and there is no punishment for lying. Politicians are immune from the law.
Joe Taxpayer will suffer stronger consequences for exceeding the speed limit than politicians do for stealing billions from the taxpayers.

The bald-faced liar that said "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan" should be serving prison time right now!

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:57:35 -0500, Pthirus Pubis
wrote:

On 03/08/2014 02:25 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
So now we have the best government money can buy. I have supposedly smart friends who are so disgusted -- as are we all!! -- that they say they don't pay attention to politics. Well, kiddies, if you don't protect your rights, they're going down the toilet! Get real!

HB

The problem is that politicians are liars.
Politicians say one thing to get elected and do another once in office...and there is no punishment for lying. Politicians are immune from the law.
Joe Taxpayer will suffer stronger consequences for exceeding the speed limit than politicians do for stealing billions from the taxpayers.

The bald-faced liar that said "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan" should be serving prison time right now!

....and his cell mate should be a 300 lb horny faggot! Then we could
see how pro-gay he really is.

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:57:35 AM UTC-8, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
On 03/08/2014 02:25 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

So now we have the best government money can buy. I have supposedly smart friends who are so disgusted -- as are we all!! -- that they say they don't pay attention to politics. Well, kiddies, if you don't protect your rights, they're going down the toilet! Get real!



HB



The problem is that politicians are liars.

Politicians say one thing to get elected and do another once in office...and there is no punishment for lying.Politicians are immune from the law.

Oh yes there is punishment for lying. It's called being voted out of office.
But it takes work on the part of voters, who are big on complaining but not so big on organizing to get rid of crooks.

BTW: Don't underestimate how hard it is for the few good guys in Congress to get anything done in this corrupt system. They have to log roll like crazy and make compromises that stink to their nostrils. A tough job if you have a grain of integrity. It helps to be in a safe district. OTOH, it also helps the crooks to be re-elected if THEY are in a safe district.

HB

Joe Taxpayer will suffer stronger consequences for exceeding the speed limit than politicians do for stealing billions from the taxpayers.

The bald-faced liar that said "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan" should be serving prison time right now!

How about the bald-faced liars under Bush that dragged us into two unwinnable Asian wars. Yellowcake. Tubes part of nuclear equipt. Chalabi, our sole (lying) source to invade. And on and one.Reading the ACTUAL RECORD of those criminals who were pulling puppet Bush's strings; thinking of our soldiers who died for those lies -- and for "wars" that were never winnable... makes you wonder who should be serving prison time right now!

HB

going to try Amica, or USAA later this year, but
will also be looking for homeowners package-discount also

marc

On 3/9/2014 3:03 PM, wrote:
going to try Amica, or USAA later this year, but
will also be looking for homeowners package-discount also

marc


Have you tried a local independent insurance agent? Mine does the
comparisons for me to be sure I'm getting the best deal. Always a
reliable company, no hassle, good price. Every June I send the premium
and done for another year.

Some insurers have good prices because they don't pay for a TV add every
10 minutes on every station.

On Sunday, March 9, 2014 12:03:01 PM UTC-7, wrote:
going to try Amica, or USAA later this year, but

will also be looking for homeowners package-discount also



marc

I thought Amica was supposed to be one of the better ones, but they are refusing to pay for my repairs that one of their insured caused when she ran into me. I can't afford to fix the car and then sue them, so I might hire a lawyer as soon as I get a firm estimate from my local body shop.

So no, I would not insure with them.

Guess there's no such thing as an ethical insurer.
HB

"KenK" wrote in message
...
Seriously thinking of changing from Farmers to AARP/Hartford car insurance
to get much cheaper rates when I upgraded my vehicle to a newer one.
Googled

AARP/Hartford auto insurance complaints

Some real stunners! Was horrified! Then tried Geico, Farmers, Progressive,
etc. Same thing. Seems there are problems with all of them? Guess I'll
have
to switch to taking cabs?


Anyone that belives you can't cheat an honest man never had to deal with an
insurance co on a claim

On 3/9/2014 3:03 PM, wrote:
going to try Amica, or USAA later this year, but will also be looking
for homeowners package-discount also

marc


If you meet their qualification requirements, I highly recommend USAA.
I've been using their insurance products continuously since 1977 and
(unfortunately) have had several claims over those years on both my auto
and home owner's policies. Without exception, in three widely different
geographic areas, their service has been exemplary with respect to speed
of service/settlement, quality of adjustors and recommended repair
referrals, and fairness. Their rates are low compared with the
competition. When considering their rates, you have to not only
consider the quoted premium, but the fact that there are yearly partial
premium rebates that offset the already low premiums paid. I say this
only as a customer, and have no other affiliation or arrangement with
them.

On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:06:34 AM UTC-7, Peter wrote:
On 3/9/2014 3:03 PM, wrote:

going to try Amica, or USAA later this year, but will also be looking

for homeowners package-discount also



marc





If you meet their qualification requirements, I highly recommend USAA.

I've been using their insurance products continuously since 1977 and

(unfortunately) have had several claims over those years on both my auto

and home owner's policies. Without exception, in three widely different

geographic areas, their service has been exemplary with respect to speed

of service/settlement, quality of adjustors and recommended repair

referrals, and fairness. Their rates are low compared with the

competition. When considering their rates, you have to not only

consider the quoted premium, but the fact that there are yearly partial

premium rebates that offset the already low premiums paid. I say this

only as a customer, and have no other affiliation or arrangement with

them.

I looked up USAA in the J.D. Powers ratings, and they scored a solid 5 stars in all categories. The winner was Erie, a company I'm not familiar with, which also scored well, but not quite as well as USAA.

However, J.D. Powers says USAA is only open to military and their families.
????

HB

On 3/10/2014 1:21 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

I looked up USAA in the J.D. Powers ratings, and they scored a solid 5 stars in all categories. The winner was Erie, a company I'm not familiar with, which also scored well, but not quite as well as USAA.

However, J.D. Powers says USAA is only open to military and their families.
????

HB


Have you checked yourself? Sometimes they have rather loose
qualifications like if your uncle's brother-in-law was drafted in 1952
you qualify.

Remember GEICO was for government employees at one time. Now you
qualify if you've ever watched one of their commercials.

On Monday, March 10, 2014 11:49:38 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/10/2014 1:21 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:



I looked up USAA in the J.D. Powers ratings, and they scored a solid 5 stars in all categories. The winner was Erie, a company I'm not familiar with, which also scored well, but not quite as well as USAA.



However, J.D. Powers says USAA is only open to military and their families.

????



HB





Have you checked yourself? Sometimes they have rather loose

qualifications like if your uncle's brother-in-law was drafted in 1952

you qualify.

Seriously? My late brother served overseas in WW II. There are probably others somewhere in the family. But I took it to mean wife or husband and children. Would I have to go through the whole thing of applying to USAA -- I hate putting my info out into the ether -- to ascertain their criteria?

Anybody happen to know fer sure?


Remember GEICO was for government employees at one time. Now you

qualify if you've ever watched one of their commercials.

I didn't know that either! When I finally removed the loathesome Farmers from my life, I just signed with GEICO because family members had it. Renewal coming up. I notice they didn't do all that well on J.D. Powers.

What to do...??

TIA for any info on USAA family criteria.

HB

On 3/10/2014 6:43 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Monday, March 10, 2014 11:49:38 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/10/2014 1:21 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:



I looked up USAA in the J.D. Powers ratings, and they scored a solid 5 stars in all categories. The winner was Erie, a company I'm not familiar with, which also scored well, but not quite as well as USAA.



However, J.D. Powers says USAA is only open to military and their families.

????



HB





Have you checked yourself? Sometimes they have rather loose

qualifications like if your uncle's brother-in-law was drafted in 1952

you qualify.

Seriously? My late brother served overseas in WW II. There are probably others somewhere in the family. But I took it to mean wife or husband and children. Would I have to go through the whole thing of applying to USAA -- I hate putting my info out into the ether -- to ascertain their criteria?

Anybody happen to know fer sure?


Remember GEICO was for government employees at one time. Now you

qualify if you've ever watched one of their commercials.

I didn't know that either! When I finally removed the loathesome Farmers from my life, I just signed with GEICO because family members had it. Renewal coming up. I notice they didn't do all that well on J.D. Powers.

What to do...??

TIA for any info on USAA family criteria.

HB

Veterans and their immediate family.

Google USAA and see their requirements....

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Remove MYHAT for email reply.....

On 3/10/2014 1:21 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:06:34 AM UTC-7, Peter wrote:
On 3/9/2014 3:03 PM, wrote:

going to try Amica, or USAA later this year, but will also be
looking

for homeowners package-discount also



marc





If you meet their qualification requirements, I highly recommend
USAA.

I've been using their insurance products continuously since 1977
and

(unfortunately) have had several claims over those years on both my
auto

and home owner's policies. Without exception, in three widely
different

geographic areas, their service has been exemplary with respect to
speed

of service/settlement, quality of adjustors and recommended repair

referrals, and fairness. Their rates are low compared with the

competition. When considering their rates, you have to not only

consider the quoted premium, but the fact that there are yearly
partial

premium rebates that offset the already low premiums paid. I say
this

only as a customer, and have no other affiliation or arrangement
with

them.

I looked up USAA in the J.D. Powers ratings, and they scored a solid
5 stars in all categories. The winner was Erie, a company I'm not
familiar with, which also scored well, but not quite as well as
USAA.

However, J.D. Powers says USAA is only open to military and their
families. ????

HB


https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/pub_...kredirect=true

On 3/11/2014 11:07 AM, Peter wrote:
On 3/10/2014 1:21 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:06:34 AM UTC-7, Peter wrote:
On 3/9/2014 3:03 PM, wrote:

going to try Amica, or USAA later this year, but will also be
looking

for homeowners package-discount also



marc





If you meet their qualification requirements, I highly recommend
USAA.

I've been using their insurance products continuously since 1977
and

(unfortunately) have had several claims over those years on both my
auto

and home owner's policies. Without exception, in three widely
different

geographic areas, their service has been exemplary with respect to
speed

of service/settlement, quality of adjustors and recommended repair

referrals, and fairness. Their rates are low compared with the

competition. When considering their rates, you have to not only

consider the quoted premium, but the fact that there are yearly
partial

premium rebates that offset the already low premiums paid. I say
this

only as a customer, and have no other affiliation or arrangement
with

them.

I looked up USAA in the J.D. Powers ratings, and they scored a solid
5 stars in all categories. The winner was Erie, a company I'm not
familiar with, which also scored well, but not quite as well as
USAA.

However, J.D. Powers says USAA is only open to military and their
families. ????

HB


https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/pub_...kredirect=true

https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/why_choose_usaa_main
Our investment products, life insurance, and shopping and discounts are
available to other individuals.
USAA auto and property insurance and USAA banking services are not
available due to membership eligibility requirements. New Hampshire and
North Carolina residents who are not eligible for membership may be able
to obtain USAA auto insurance by calling 1-800-531-USAA (8722) to
determine eligibility as defined by these states' mandatory coverage laws.
All other individuals not eligible for USAA auto insurance may be able
to obtain an auto policy through Liberty Mutual Insurance by calling
1-855-349-2149.

Insurance agents need to be beaten to death. I have two workmans comp claims against the White House.

Violently overthrow the uS government

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:26:13 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/11/2014 11:07 AM, Peter wrote:

On 3/10/2014 1:21 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:06:34 AM UTC-7, Peter wrote:

On 3/9/2014 3:03 PM, wrote:



going to try Amica, or USAA later this year, but will also be

looking



for homeowners package-discount also







marc











If you meet their qualification requirements, I highly recommend

USAA.



I've been using their insurance products continuously since 1977

and



(unfortunately) have had several claims over those years on both my

auto



and home owner's policies. Without exception, in three widely

different



geographic areas, their service has been exemplary with respect to

speed



of service/settlement, quality of adjustors and recommended repair



referrals, and fairness. Their rates are low compared with the



competition. When considering their rates, you have to not only



consider the quoted premium, but the fact that there are yearly

partial



premium rebates that offset the already low premiums paid. I say

this



only as a customer, and have no other affiliation or arrangement

with



them.



I looked up USAA in the J.D. Powers ratings, and they scored a solid

5 stars in all categories. The winner was Erie, a company I'm not

familiar with, which also scored well, but not quite as well as

USAA.



However, J.D. Powers says USAA is only open to military and their

families. ????



HB





https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/pub_...kredirect=true



https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/why_choose_usaa_main

Our investment products, life insurance, and shopping and discounts are

available to other individuals.

USAA auto and property insurance and USAA banking services are not

available due to membership eligibility requirements. New Hampshire and

North Carolina residents who are not eligible for membership may be able

to obtain USAA auto insurance by calling 1-800-531-USAA (8722) to

determine eligibility as defined by these states' mandatory coverage laws.

All other individuals not eligible for USAA auto insurance may be able

to obtain an auto policy through Liberty Mutual Insurance by calling

1-855-349-2149.

Ed, are you saying that Liberty Mutual is somehow connected with USAA?

I checked their ratings on J.D. Powers (not that Powers is God - there is question about whether the rating info comes from companies themselves --
but Liberty Mutual is pretty far down the line.

Does the info you posted imply that Liberty Mutual is a higher-risk insurer?

What, if anything, is their connection with USAA?

STRAIGHT QUESTIONS.

TIA

HB

On 3/12/2014 1:03 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/why_choose_usaa_main


All other individuals not eligible for USAA auto insurance may be able

to obtain an auto policy through Liberty Mutual Insurance by calling

1-855-349-2149.

Ed, are you saying that Liberty Mutual is somehow connected with USAA?

I checked their ratings on J.D. Powers (not that Powers is God - there is question about whether the rating info comes from companies themselves --
but Liberty Mutual is pretty far down the line.

Does the info you posted imply that Liberty Mutual is a higher-risk insurer?

What, if anything, is their connection with USAA?

STRAIGHT QUESTIONS.

TIA

HB


I just copied the info from the USAA web site. I imagine there is a
connection of some sort though. Just like AARP/Hartford

Nor did I go far enough to find out if they actually check the military
connection or just take your word for it. Seems that if you had a
family member in the service you are eligible to join their association.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/12/2014 1:03 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/why_choose_usaa_main


All other individuals not eligible for USAA auto insurance may be able

to obtain an auto policy through Liberty Mutual Insurance by calling

1-855-349-2149.

Ed, are you saying that Liberty Mutual is somehow connected with USAA?

I checked their ratings on J.D. Powers (not that Powers is God - there
is question about whether the rating info comes from companies
themselves --
but Liberty Mutual is pretty far down the line.

Does the info you posted imply that Liberty Mutual is a higher-risk
insurer?

What, if anything, is their connection with USAA?

STRAIGHT QUESTIONS.

TIA

HB


I just copied the info from the USAA web site. I imagine there is a
connection of some sort though. Just like AARP/Hartford

Nor did I go far enough to find out if they actually check the military
connection or just take your word for it. Seems that if you had a
family member in the service you are eligible to join their association.

I think you misread it. I, as a service member established eligibility;
my wife is eligible as my dependent; my children, and grandchildren are
eligible as children of a member; my sisters are not eligible. There
are a few instances where people who lack the nexus may get insurance,
primarily a few states that require USAA to sell to them as a condition
of doing business in that state.

They are an excellent insurance company, and their bank and investment
services are also top notch.