It's an older house, probably 30 plus years old. VERY easy
to have saggy horizontals.

Is it (typically) easier to pour antifreeze into the pipes,
or blow the water out?

Me smells a troll ..........

It's an older house, probably 30 plus years old. VERY easy
to have saggy horizontals.

Is it (typically) easier to pour antifreeze into the pipes,
or blow the water out?

Me smells a troll ..........

It's an older house, probably 30 plus years old. VERY easy
to have saggy horizontals.

Is it (typically) easier to pour antifreeze into the pipes,
or blow the water out?

Me smells a troll ..........

It's an older house, probably 30 plus years old. VERY easy
to have saggy horizontals.

Is it (typically) easier to pour antifreeze into the pipes,
or blow the water out?

Me smells a troll ..........

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:46:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:36:13 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's my concern. Might be horizontal pipes with sags.


As long as the low parts are not more than half filled with water they
are unlikely to burst.

I agree. As long as you go around and make sure that there are no
deflections of over 1/4 inch anywhere, and everything checks perfect
with a level at all points, you have nothing to worry about.


Same goes with traps. If there is only enough
water to half fill the bottom of the trap, they usually won't split.

Traps will always be full unless they have not been used in long
enough that the water has evaporated.

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:46:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:36:13 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's my concern. Might be horizontal pipes with sags.


As long as the low parts are not more than half filled with water they
are unlikely to burst.

I agree. As long as you go around and make sure that there are no
deflections of over 1/4 inch anywhere, and everything checks perfect
with a level at all points, you have nothing to worry about.


Same goes with traps. If there is only enough
water to half fill the bottom of the trap, they usually won't split.

Traps will always be full unless they have not been used in long
enough that the water has evaporated.

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:46:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:36:13 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's my concern. Might be horizontal pipes with sags.


As long as the low parts are not more than half filled with water they
are unlikely to burst.

I agree. As long as you go around and make sure that there are no
deflections of over 1/4 inch anywhere, and everything checks perfect
with a level at all points, you have nothing to worry about.


Same goes with traps. If there is only enough
water to half fill the bottom of the trap, they usually won't split.

Traps will always be full unless they have not been used in long
enough that the water has evaporated.

On Dec 9, 7:09*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Friend of mine, is acting as caretaker for a family member's
house. The power got shut off, and the house is cold inside.
Down to 37, last he checked. Four burneers on the stove for
an hour raises the temp two entire degrees.

Last night, we put RV antifreeze in the drain traps.
Toilets, sinks, showers. We considered the dishwasher. But
that hadn't run in six month or so, and probably the trap
dried out. Washing machine is in the cellar, and should stay
warmer.

For $3.97 that might be a lot cheaper than replacing a bunch
of broken pipes. I got to thinking. On the way home, I
bought myself a jug of antifreeze. Might never need it. But
it might be cheaper than replacing a bunch of pipes and such
if I need it here, or for a friend some day.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

You could use a plunger on a sink (new would be a good choice) and get
nearly all the water out (pushing not pulling).

bob_v

On Dec 9, 7:09*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Friend of mine, is acting as caretaker for a family member's
house. The power got shut off, and the house is cold inside.
Down to 37, last he checked. Four burneers on the stove for
an hour raises the temp two entire degrees.

Last night, we put RV antifreeze in the drain traps.
Toilets, sinks, showers. We considered the dishwasher. But
that hadn't run in six month or so, and probably the trap
dried out. Washing machine is in the cellar, and should stay
warmer.

For $3.97 that might be a lot cheaper than replacing a bunch
of broken pipes. I got to thinking. On the way home, I
bought myself a jug of antifreeze. Might never need it. But
it might be cheaper than replacing a bunch of pipes and such
if I need it here, or for a friend some day.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

You could use a plunger on a sink (new would be a good choice) and get
nearly all the water out (pushing not pulling).

bob_v

Bob Villa wrote:
On Dec 9, 7:09 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Friend of mine, is acting as caretaker for a family member's
house. The power got shut off, and the house is cold inside.
Down to 37, last he checked. Four burneers on the stove for
an hour raises the temp two entire degrees.

Last night, we put RV antifreeze in the drain traps.
Toilets, sinks, showers. We considered the dishwasher. But
that hadn't run in six month or so, and probably the trap
dried out. Washing machine is in the cellar, and should stay
warmer.

For $3.97 that might be a lot cheaper than replacing a bunch
of broken pipes. I got to thinking. On the way home, I
bought myself a jug of antifreeze. Might never need it. But
it might be cheaper than replacing a bunch of pipes and such
if I need it here, or for a friend some day.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

You could use a plunger on a sink (new would be a good choice) and get
nearly all the water out (pushing not pulling).

bob_v

Around here it occasionally gets cold enough to damage plumbing
but the temp has to drop to 15F or lower for several days before
there is a plumbers bonanza. It's my understanding that in colder
parts of the country, folks setup the plumbing system so that it's
easily drained and also configured in such a way that compressed
air can be used to blow out any residual water. It seems to me that
a plumbing company could have a service where they could justify
the expense of a large high volume air compressor like those used
for jackhammers and go from one customer to another to clear their
lines or blow a nontoxic antifreeze mix through a system. With all
of the foreclosures going on, the creditors would probably have an
interest in some sort of mothballing service.

TDD

Bob Villa wrote:
On Dec 9, 7:09 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Friend of mine, is acting as caretaker for a family member's
house. The power got shut off, and the house is cold inside.
Down to 37, last he checked. Four burneers on the stove for
an hour raises the temp two entire degrees.

Last night, we put RV antifreeze in the drain traps.
Toilets, sinks, showers. We considered the dishwasher. But
that hadn't run in six month or so, and probably the trap
dried out. Washing machine is in the cellar, and should stay
warmer.

For $3.97 that might be a lot cheaper than replacing a bunch
of broken pipes. I got to thinking. On the way home, I
bought myself a jug of antifreeze. Might never need it. But
it might be cheaper than replacing a bunch of pipes and such
if I need it here, or for a friend some day.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

You could use a plunger on a sink (new would be a good choice) and get
nearly all the water out (pushing not pulling).

bob_v

Around here it occasionally gets cold enough to damage plumbing
but the temp has to drop to 15F or lower for several days before
there is a plumbers bonanza. It's my understanding that in colder
parts of the country, folks setup the plumbing system so that it's
easily drained and also configured in such a way that compressed
air can be used to blow out any residual water. It seems to me that
a plumbing company could have a service where they could justify
the expense of a large high volume air compressor like those used
for jackhammers and go from one customer to another to clear their
lines or blow a nontoxic antifreeze mix through a system. With all
of the foreclosures going on, the creditors would probably have an
interest in some sort of mothballing service.

TDD

Tony wrote in
:

Red Green wrote:
Tony wrote in news:7o9qloF3ou993U1
@mid.individual.net:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Friend of mine, is acting as caretaker for a family member's
house. The power got shut off, and the house is cold inside.
Down to 37, last he checked. Four burneers on the stove for
an hour raises the temp two entire degrees.

Last night, we put RV antifreeze in the drain traps.

........
I'm hoping you bought RV type antifreeze and not automobile type.
You don't want to flush auto stuff down the drains to contaminate
the water supply.




OK, OK, I see it! Gawd, please help me read more betterer.


It's just your turn Tony :-) That's neeeeever happened to me.

Tony wrote in
:

Red Green wrote:
Tony wrote in news:7o9qloF3ou993U1
@mid.individual.net:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Friend of mine, is acting as caretaker for a family member's
house. The power got shut off, and the house is cold inside.
Down to 37, last he checked. Four burneers on the stove for
an hour raises the temp two entire degrees.

Last night, we put RV antifreeze in the drain traps.

........
I'm hoping you bought RV type antifreeze and not automobile type.
You don't want to flush auto stuff down the drains to contaminate
the water supply.




OK, OK, I see it! Gawd, please help me read more betterer.


It's just your turn Tony :-) That's neeeeever happened to me.

I think I know these people, or one of their 400,000 clones!



"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I finally gave up on the friendship, after the third time in
a couple months that I got sick from contact. Twice was they
didn't tell me the 5 year old nephew had a cold, and the
other time was when he fixed me a salmonella burger. So, I'm
no longer in contact.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
I can tell. Your friend needs to get to an AA meeting, and
quick.


"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
He also says they got a dog some time after the pipes in
the
cellar came up missing. I've heard of AC units getting
stripped while at the curb side. Actually, I've driven
past
and seen curbside AC with the copper yanked out. And the
copper coil from TV sets, those get yanked.

Who can tell?

I think I know these people, or one of their 400,000 clones!



"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I finally gave up on the friendship, after the third time in
a couple months that I got sick from contact. Twice was they
didn't tell me the 5 year old nephew had a cold, and the
other time was when he fixed me a salmonella burger. So, I'm
no longer in contact.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
I can tell. Your friend needs to get to an AA meeting, and
quick.


"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
He also says they got a dog some time after the pipes in
the
cellar came up missing. I've heard of AC units getting
stripped while at the curb side. Actually, I've driven
past
and seen curbside AC with the copper yanked out. And the
copper coil from TV sets, those get yanked.

Who can tell?

The sink and toilet traps have been antifreezed. Now, the
concern turns to pipes in the walls.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Bob Villa" wrote in message
...

You could use a plunger on a sink (new would be a good
choice) and get
nearly all the water out (pushing not pulling).

bob_v

The sink and toilet traps have been antifreezed. Now, the
concern turns to pipes in the walls.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Bob Villa" wrote in message
...

You could use a plunger on a sink (new would be a good
choice) and get
nearly all the water out (pushing not pulling).

bob_v

I'm with you. I'd like to see some kind of service like
that. It may exist already, I'm not sure.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"The Daring Dufas" wrote
in message ...

Around here it occasionally gets cold enough to damage
plumbing
but the temp has to drop to 15F or lower for several days
before
there is a plumbers bonanza. It's my understanding that in
colder
parts of the country, folks setup the plumbing system so
that it's
easily drained and also configured in such a way that
compressed
air can be used to blow out any residual water. It seems to
me that
a plumbing company could have a service where they could
justify
the expense of a large high volume air compressor like those
used
for jackhammers and go from one customer to another to clear
their
lines or blow a nontoxic antifreeze mix through a system.
With all
of the foreclosures going on, the creditors would probably
have an
interest in some sort of mothballing service.

TDD

I'm with you. I'd like to see some kind of service like
that. It may exist already, I'm not sure.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"The Daring Dufas" wrote
in message ...

Around here it occasionally gets cold enough to damage
plumbing
but the temp has to drop to 15F or lower for several days
before
there is a plumbers bonanza. It's my understanding that in
colder
parts of the country, folks setup the plumbing system so
that it's
easily drained and also configured in such a way that
compressed
air can be used to blow out any residual water. It seems to
me that
a plumbing company could have a service where they could
justify
the expense of a large high volume air compressor like those
used
for jackhammers and go from one customer to another to clear
their
lines or blow a nontoxic antifreeze mix through a system.
With all
of the foreclosures going on, the creditors would probably
have an
interest in some sort of mothballing service.

TDD

I'm in NYS, and a friend of mine in South Carolina knows an
identical someone. Product of the welfare system. Born,
bred, and kept alive by taxpayer dollars. The person in
question has been employed, for up to a couple weeks at a
time. Married a welfare woman, with three welfare daughters.
Mom watches Rikki Lake, Sally Jessy, and all the daytime
drams. The three daughters now in their teens all have
boyfriends, and one also has girlfriends. Lives at present
entirely on taxpayer dollars. Declares that it's not
welfare. It's some other program, but not welfare. Watches
Cable TV, with cable internet, smokes, and has already been
brought back to life after a massive heart attack. Takes
four or five pills a day, paid by the tax payer. Gave up
salt for his health, but still smokes two packs a day. Packs
which are purchased with tax payer money.

Did you hear about the guy who had a clone made of himself?
Problem is, the clone had a potty mouth. Finally he pushed
the clone to his death, off a cliff. The police charged him
with making an obscene clone fall.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
I think I know these people, or one of their 400,000 clones!

I'm in NYS, and a friend of mine in South Carolina knows an
identical someone. Product of the welfare system. Born,
bred, and kept alive by taxpayer dollars. The person in
question has been employed, for up to a couple weeks at a
time. Married a welfare woman, with three welfare daughters.
Mom watches Rikki Lake, Sally Jessy, and all the daytime
drams. The three daughters now in their teens all have
boyfriends, and one also has girlfriends. Lives at present
entirely on taxpayer dollars. Declares that it's not
welfare. It's some other program, but not welfare. Watches
Cable TV, with cable internet, smokes, and has already been
brought back to life after a massive heart attack. Takes
four or five pills a day, paid by the tax payer. Gave up
salt for his health, but still smokes two packs a day. Packs
which are purchased with tax payer money.

Did you hear about the guy who had a clone made of himself?
Problem is, the clone had a potty mouth. Finally he pushed
the clone to his death, off a cliff. The police charged him
with making an obscene clone fall.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
I think I know these people, or one of their 400,000 clones!

DRUM CRASH!

It's fun to hear people talking about NY as if it's all like NYC &
Westchester. But, as you've seen, there's an awful lot of banjo country out
this way.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I'm in NYS, and a friend of mine in South Carolina knows an
identical someone. Product of the welfare system. Born,
bred, and kept alive by taxpayer dollars. The person in
question has been employed, for up to a couple weeks at a
time. Married a welfare woman, with three welfare daughters.
Mom watches Rikki Lake, Sally Jessy, and all the daytime
drams. The three daughters now in their teens all have
boyfriends, and one also has girlfriends. Lives at present
entirely on taxpayer dollars. Declares that it's not
welfare. It's some other program, but not welfare. Watches
Cable TV, with cable internet, smokes, and has already been
brought back to life after a massive heart attack. Takes
four or five pills a day, paid by the tax payer. Gave up
salt for his health, but still smokes two packs a day. Packs
which are purchased with tax payer money.

Did you hear about the guy who had a clone made of himself?
Problem is, the clone had a potty mouth. Finally he pushed
the clone to his death, off a cliff. The police charged him
with making an obscene clone fall.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
I think I know these people, or one of their 400,000 clones!

DRUM CRASH!

It's fun to hear people talking about NY as if it's all like NYC &
Westchester. But, as you've seen, there's an awful lot of banjo country out
this way.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I'm in NYS, and a friend of mine in South Carolina knows an
identical someone. Product of the welfare system. Born,
bred, and kept alive by taxpayer dollars. The person in
question has been employed, for up to a couple weeks at a
time. Married a welfare woman, with three welfare daughters.
Mom watches Rikki Lake, Sally Jessy, and all the daytime
drams. The three daughters now in their teens all have
boyfriends, and one also has girlfriends. Lives at present
entirely on taxpayer dollars. Declares that it's not
welfare. It's some other program, but not welfare. Watches
Cable TV, with cable internet, smokes, and has already been
brought back to life after a massive heart attack. Takes
four or five pills a day, paid by the tax payer. Gave up
salt for his health, but still smokes two packs a day. Packs
which are purchased with tax payer money.

Did you hear about the guy who had a clone made of himself?
Problem is, the clone had a potty mouth. Finally he pushed
the clone to his death, off a cliff. The police charged him
with making an obscene clone fall.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
I think I know these people, or one of their 400,000 clones!

In places like the Adirondacks, there ARE people who handle these services,
because of the high number of vacation homes which are closed up for winter.
Might also be that way in the Finger Lakes summer rental zone.


"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I'm with you. I'd like to see some kind of service like
that. It may exist already, I'm not sure.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"The Daring Dufas" wrote
in message ...

Around here it occasionally gets cold enough to damage
plumbing
but the temp has to drop to 15F or lower for several days
before
there is a plumbers bonanza. It's my understanding that in
colder
parts of the country, folks setup the plumbing system so
that it's
easily drained and also configured in such a way that
compressed
air can be used to blow out any residual water. It seems to
me that
a plumbing company could have a service where they could
justify
the expense of a large high volume air compressor like those
used
for jackhammers and go from one customer to another to clear
their
lines or blow a nontoxic antifreeze mix through a system.
With all
of the foreclosures going on, the creditors would probably
have an
interest in some sort of mothballing service.

TDD

In places like the Adirondacks, there ARE people who handle these services,
because of the high number of vacation homes which are closed up for winter.
Might also be that way in the Finger Lakes summer rental zone.


"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I'm with you. I'd like to see some kind of service like
that. It may exist already, I'm not sure.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"The Daring Dufas" wrote
in message ...

Around here it occasionally gets cold enough to damage
plumbing
but the temp has to drop to 15F or lower for several days
before
there is a plumbers bonanza. It's my understanding that in
colder
parts of the country, folks setup the plumbing system so
that it's
easily drained and also configured in such a way that
compressed
air can be used to blow out any residual water. It seems to
me that
a plumbing company could have a service where they could
justify
the expense of a large high volume air compressor like those
used
for jackhammers and go from one customer to another to clear
their
lines or blow a nontoxic antifreeze mix through a system.
With all
of the foreclosures going on, the creditors would probably
have an
interest in some sort of mothballing service.

TDD

you never want sewer gas to be allowed in your home!!

sewer gas can have gasoline, natural gas and other explosive vapors
besides bad stink.

the cost of antifreeze is low, the cost of fixing the damage can be a
killer

you never want sewer gas to be allowed in your home!!

sewer gas can have gasoline, natural gas and other explosive vapors
besides bad stink.

the cost of antifreeze is low, the cost of fixing the damage can be a
killer

And the cows. You're right, people talk about NYS like it's
all Bronx.

Do you wake up with the wease on 96? Do you know what a
white hot is? Is lilac festival a reason to wear snow gear?
Does the Breeze make you groan, for wasted tax payer money?
Is a corn hill festival a place to get sunburn, or get AIDS?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
DRUM CRASH!

It's fun to hear people talking about NY as if it's all like
NYC &
Westchester. But, as you've seen, there's an awful lot of
banjo country out
this way.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
I'm in NYS, and a friend of mine in South Carolina knows
an
identical someone. Product of the welfare system. Born,

And the cows. You're right, people talk about NYS like it's
all Bronx.

Do you wake up with the wease on 96? Do you know what a
white hot is? Is lilac festival a reason to wear snow gear?
Does the Breeze make you groan, for wasted tax payer money?
Is a corn hill festival a place to get sunburn, or get AIDS?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
DRUM CRASH!

It's fun to hear people talking about NY as if it's all like
NYC &
Westchester. But, as you've seen, there's an awful lot of
banjo country out
this way.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
I'm in NYS, and a friend of mine in South Carolina knows
an
identical someone. Product of the welfare system. Born,

wrote in message
...
you never want sewer gas to be allowed in your home!!

sewer gas can have gasoline, natural gas and other explosive vapors
besides bad stink.

the cost of antifreeze is low, the cost of fixing the damage can be a
killer



I thought this section of the thread was about using a compressor to blast
residual water out of THE SUPPLY PIPES, and whether there were people who
would provide this service.

wrote in message
...
you never want sewer gas to be allowed in your home!!

sewer gas can have gasoline, natural gas and other explosive vapors
besides bad stink.

the cost of antifreeze is low, the cost of fixing the damage can be a
killer



I thought this section of the thread was about using a compressor to blast
residual water out of THE SUPPLY PIPES, and whether there were people who
would provide this service.

When I was a little guy, we used to vacation in the
Adirondaks. Fishing, and get away from it all. The cabins we
rented had no insulation. I'm sure they had to be drained
and had the pipes blown out for winter. Many in the finger
lakes, likely the same way. I've been to some homes where
the driveway is vertical, and I've had to pray for safety on
the way in, or the way out. Winter? Forget it.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
In places like the Adirondacks, there ARE people who handle
these services,
because of the high number of vacation homes which are
closed up for winter.
Might also be that way in the Finger Lakes summer rental
zone.

When I was a little guy, we used to vacation in the
Adirondaks. Fishing, and get away from it all. The cabins we
rented had no insulation. I'm sure they had to be drained
and had the pipes blown out for winter. Many in the finger
lakes, likely the same way. I've been to some homes where
the driveway is vertical, and I've had to pray for safety on
the way in, or the way out. Winter? Forget it.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
In places like the Adirondacks, there ARE people who handle
these services,
because of the high number of vacation homes which are
closed up for winter.
Might also be that way in the Finger Lakes summer rental
zone.

- Only deaf people listen to WCMF. They intentionally induce distortion into
their signal. Sounds like a phonograph needle with a ball of dust on it.

- White hots are not hot dogs. The only real hot dogs are made by Sabrett
and Hebrew National, and are apparently illegal around here.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
And the cows. You're right, people talk about NYS like it's
all Bronx.

Do you wake up with the wease on 96? Do you know what a
white hot is? Is lilac festival a reason to wear snow gear?
Does the Breeze make you groan, for wasted tax payer money?
Is a corn hill festival a place to get sunburn, or get AIDS?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
DRUM CRASH!

It's fun to hear people talking about NY as if it's all like
NYC &
Westchester. But, as you've seen, there's an awful lot of
banjo country out
this way.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
I'm in NYS, and a friend of mine in South Carolina knows
an
identical someone. Product of the welfare system. Born,

- Only deaf people listen to WCMF. They intentionally induce distortion into
their signal. Sounds like a phonograph needle with a ball of dust on it.

- White hots are not hot dogs. The only real hot dogs are made by Sabrett
and Hebrew National, and are apparently illegal around here.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
And the cows. You're right, people talk about NYS like it's
all Bronx.

Do you wake up with the wease on 96? Do you know what a
white hot is? Is lilac festival a reason to wear snow gear?
Does the Breeze make you groan, for wasted tax payer money?
Is a corn hill festival a place to get sunburn, or get AIDS?

--
Christopher A. Young
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
DRUM CRASH!

It's fun to hear people talking about NY as if it's all like
NYC &
Westchester. But, as you've seen, there's an awful lot of
banjo country out
this way.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
I'm in NYS, and a friend of mine in South Carolina knows
an
identical someone. Product of the welfare system. Born,

There are a few of those vertical driveways on the west side of Irondequoit
Bay, but they're year-round homes. A couple have 149 steps to get down from
the street. "Honey - we have to tip the movers $500 each...." :-)



"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
When I was a little guy, we used to vacation in the
Adirondaks. Fishing, and get away from it all. The cabins we
rented had no insulation. I'm sure they had to be drained
and had the pipes blown out for winter. Many in the finger
lakes, likely the same way. I've been to some homes where
the driveway is vertical, and I've had to pray for safety on
the way in, or the way out. Winter? Forget it.

--
Christopher A. Young
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
In places like the Adirondacks, there ARE people who handle
these services,
because of the high number of vacation homes which are
closed up for winter.
Might also be that way in the Finger Lakes summer rental
zone.

There are a few of those vertical driveways on the west side of Irondequoit
Bay, but they're year-round homes. A couple have 149 steps to get down from
the street. "Honey - we have to tip the movers $500 each...." :-)



"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
When I was a little guy, we used to vacation in the
Adirondaks. Fishing, and get away from it all. The cabins we
rented had no insulation. I'm sure they had to be drained
and had the pipes blown out for winter. Many in the finger
lakes, likely the same way. I've been to some homes where
the driveway is vertical, and I've had to pray for safety on
the way in, or the way out. Winter? Forget it.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
In places like the Adirondacks, there ARE people who handle
these services,
because of the high number of vacation homes which are
closed up for winter.
Might also be that way in the Finger Lakes summer rental
zone.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:40:51 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:46:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:36:13 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's my concern. Might be horizontal pipes with sags.


As long as the low parts are not more than half filled with water they
are unlikely to burst.

I agree. As long as you go around and make sure that there are no
deflections of over 1/4 inch anywhere, and everything checks perfect
with a level at all points, you have nothing to worry about.


Same goes with traps. If there is only enough
water to half fill the bottom of the trap, they usually won't split.

Traps will always be full unless they have not been used in long
enough that the water has evaporated.

Not if they've been "blown" - often they don't get completely empty.
And I know guys who just take a "drain blaster" to blow the traps for
winterizing. Does not make the trap dry, but gets them low enough they
won't pop.

I'm not much interested in rock, nor rap and black on 104,
is it DKX?

Yeah, white hots are closer to sausage. Not heard of that
brand, probably cause they aren't commonly found.

--
Christopher A. Young
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..


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
- Only deaf people listen to WCMF. They intentionally induce
distortion into
their signal. Sounds like a phonograph needle with a ball of
dust on it.

- White hots are not hot dogs. The only real hot dogs are
made by Sabrett
and Hebrew National, and are apparently illegal around here.



"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
And the cows. You're right, people talk about NYS like
it's
all Bronx.

Do you wake up with the wease on 96? Do you know what a
white hot is? Is lilac festival a reason to wear snow
gear?
Does the Breeze make you groan, for wasted tax payer
money?
Is a corn hill festival a place to get sunburn, or get
AIDS?

Wow, that's a lot like work. How many deer did you hit, this
year, in Durand? Do you support feeding the deer, or
shooting? Did the "police snipers" do OK?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
message ...
There are a few of those vertical driveways on the west side
of Irondequoit
Bay, but they're year-round homes. A couple have 149 steps
to get down from
the street. "Honey - we have to tip the movers $500
each...." :-)



"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
When I was a little guy, we used to vacation in the
Adirondaks. Fishing, and get away from it all. The cabins
we
rented had no insulation. I'm sure they had to be drained
and had the pipes blown out for winter. Many in the finger
lakes, likely the same way. I've been to some homes where
the driveway is vertical, and I've had to pray for safety
on
the way in, or the way out. Winter? Forget it.