Later this year, the church is having a "deep cleaning"
project. I went to the one last year. Couple guys pushing a
vacuum cleaner, and several crews of people washing windows.
The carpets all got vacuumed several times, and the windows
got wiped several times.

Ideally, I'd like to have a list of church cleaning list of
things to do. Things which are useful, and actually make the
building and grounds cleaner. A google search provided a
bunch of calendar dates for other churches cleaning days.
But no good old fashioned task list.

What do you all suggest?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Later this year, the church is having a "deep cleaning"
project. I went to the one last year. Couple guys pushing a
vacuum cleaner, and several crews of people washing windows.
The carpets all got vacuumed several times, and the windows
got wiped several times.

Ideally, I'd like to have a list of church cleaning list of
things to do. Things which are useful, and actually make the
building and grounds cleaner. A google search provided a
bunch of calendar dates for other churches cleaning days.
But no good old fashioned task list.

What do you all suggest?

Hi,
I'd steam vac. carpet. You will see how dirty the carpet was then.
Pews all have to be wiped down.

On Jul 17, 11:18*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Later this year, the church is having a "deep cleaning"
project. I went to the one last year. Couple guys pushing a
vacuum cleaner, and several crews of people washing windows.
The carpets all got vacuumed several times, and the windows
got wiped several times.

Ideally, I'd like to have a list of church cleaning list of
things to do. Things which are useful, and actually make the
building and grounds cleaner. A google search provided a
bunch of calendar dates for other churches cleaning days.
But no good old fashioned task list.

What do you all suggest?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

Remove all the chewing gum from under all seats.

The building is one level, built on a cement slab. The nylon
carpet is rather thin. And they do have a steamer company
come in, now and again.

Wiping down the pews is true. One friend reminds me they
havn't had waxing or cleaning in ages.

Thank you.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I'd steam vac. carpet. You will see how dirty the carpet was
then.
Pews all have to be wiped down.

Slide the center part out, where they have all been shafted.
Grease em up, and shaft em again.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Stepfann King"
wrote in message
53.22...

Dust the crap off the holy rollers.

On Jul 18, 11:26*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Slide the center part out, where they have all been shafted.
Grease em up, and shaft em again.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Stepfann King"
wrote in messagenews:Xns9C4C18458E156steffankinghatedbyO@21 6.151.153.22....

Dust the crap off the holy rollers.

Wipe away the sins and throw out the old sermons. :-)

On Jul 18, 12:18*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Later this year, the church is having a "deep cleaning"
project. I went to the one last year. Couple guys pushing a
vacuum cleaner, and several crews of people washing windows.
The carpets all got vacuumed several times, and the windows
got wiped several times.

Ideally, I'd like to have a list of church cleaning list of
things to do. Things which are useful, and actually make the
building and grounds cleaner. A google search provided a
bunch of calendar dates for other churches cleaning days.
But no good old fashioned task list.

What do you all suggest?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

Wash all of the toys in the playroom to get the lead off of them.

If it's over 10 years old, then replace your smoke detectors.

Rake the mulch away from the siding to keep out ants, etc.

Clean the heating/cooling ducts.

If you use a baptismal or such, get the gunk out of it.

Polish the brass, including door hardware.

Check for burned out light bulbs. Readjust them if they are off.

Give the sound system the once-over to make sure it's balanced, etc.
Clean the mikes.

Seal any cracks in the driveway.

Come over to my house and seal the cracks there, too.

Touch up painting if there are aisles on the side and people rub on
the walls.

Put Stick-um in the bottom of the collection basket.

Wash all vestments and linens, if applicable.

Wash the OUTSIDE of the windows.

Check the insulation in your ceiling. Make sure it's okay. Check for
leaks in the attic while you're there.

Clean the gutters.

Wash your sign out front and make it inviting.

Clean the over, if you have one.

Replace lights with CFLs.

Check filters in HVAC. Clean coils.

Touch up paint.

Replace your old thermostat with a new, programmable one.

Test your alarms.

Edge the driveway.

Test the PA system part for hearing impaired and make sure it's
working.

Check inspection dates on fire extinguishers.

Grease the elbows on big contributors.

Create a punch list that memorializes all of the things that need to
be done so that you become the most hated person in the congregation.
Then send it to other congregations to make it an "official"
list. ;-)



Okay, there are probably more but that'll keep you busy for a while.

On 7/17/2009 9:18 PM Stormin Mormon spake thus:

Later this year, the church is having a "deep cleaning"
project. I went to the one last year. Couple guys pushing a
vacuum cleaner, and several crews of people washing windows.
The carpets all got vacuumed several times, and the windows
got wiped several times.

Ideally, I'd like to have a list of church cleaning list of
things to do. Things which are useful, and actually make the
building and grounds cleaner. A google search provided a
bunch of calendar dates for other churches cleaning days.
But no good old fashioned task list.

What do you all suggest?

Exorcism?


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

On Jul 18, 9:23*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
The building is one level, built on a cement slab. The nylon
carpet is rather thin. And they do have a steamer company
come in, now and again.

Wiping down the pews is true. One friend reminds me they
havn't had waxing or cleaning in ages.

Thank you.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Tony Hwang" wrote in message

...
Hi,
I'd steam vac. carpet. You will see how dirty the carpet was
then.
Pews all have to be wiped down.

Waxing the pews may not be such a great idea if they are all wood
though it can be awful funny. Being in the choir it was hilarios
watching a couple of hundred people struggling to stay in their seats.
Apparently there is wax especially made for this that is not slick. I
have also seen a new sliding board waxed with anti slip wax, that was
equally funny. Im sure everyone does not share my sense of humor
especially some very disapponted grammar school kids.

Jimmie

Can you reccomend a good priest?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
.com...

Exorcism?


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

Lucky, the seats and backs are upholstered. But, I'm sure
that's a challenge.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JIMMIE" wrote in message
...

Waxing the pews may not be such a great idea if they are all
wood
though it can be awful funny. Being in the choir it was
hilarios
watching a couple of hundred people struggling to stay in
their seats.
Apparently there is wax especially made for this that is not
slick. I
have also seen a new sliding board waxed with anti slip wax,
that was
equally funny. Im sure everyone does not share my sense of
humor
especially some very disapponted grammar school kids.

Jimmie

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:18:00 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Lucky, the seats and backs are upholstered. But, I'm sure
that's a challenge.

Add that to you cleaning list. "Upholstery cleaning" A spray foam,
brush scrubbing. shop vacuumed and allowed to dry.

"PatM" wrote in message
...

Wash all of the toys in the playroom to get the lead off of
them.

CY: We do have a playroom. Yes, the toys should be taken
out, and probably power washed. And all the chairs, too.
I've noticed the primary room has a distinct odor. The
carpets do get steamed now and again. So, my next guess is
the chairs have picked up some sweat from squirmy kids.

If it's over 10 years old, then replace your smoke
detectors.

CY: I'm sure the building has smoke detectors, but I'm not
sure where. I'll have to look. They would be hard wired in,
if any.

Rake the mulch away from the siding to keep out ants, etc.

CY: Good idea. And put some ant baits in the kitchen.

Clean the heating/cooling ducts.

CY: The filters get changed twice a year. The HVAC equipment
is all in overhead lofts. I can't ask people to climb
ladders on such assignment. I've been up there many times,
but it's dangerous work.

If you use a baptismal or such, get the gunk out of it.

CY: Yes, that needs scrubbing. With some kind of soap that
produces no bubbles. I remember the one time they scurbbed
the baptismal font,a nd the next baptism, they had bubbles
on the water. NOt good!

Polish the brass, including door hardware.

CY: Yes, that's good. Darned little brass, all the metal
seems to be dull chrome.

Check for burned out light bulbs. Readjust them if they are
off.

CY: I'm sure at least a few people wonder why I wander
around, looking up. It's not nose in the air, honest! I'm
looking for bulbs out.

Give the sound system the once-over to make sure it's
balanced, etc.

CY: Odd you should mention that. The sound in the gym is way
loud. I could not find any adjuster for it.

Clean the mikes.

CY: You are right.

Seal any cracks in the driveway.

CY: We could get caulk tubes of driveway stuff.

Come over to my house and seal the cracks there, too.

CY: Be about 4 PM, after the church project.

Touch up painting if there are aisles on the side and people
rub on
the walls.

CY: Yes, there are runners along the sides of the walls.
I'll have to look at t hat.

Put Stick-um in the bottom of the collection basket.

CY: So the money doesn't slide out. Brilliant.

Wash all vestments and linens, if applicable.

CY: We do use linen for the sacrament table. Yes, those
should be washed and dried.

Wash the OUTSIDE of the windows.

CY: Excellent. Yes, that's needed.

Check the insulation in your ceiling. Make sure it's okay.
Check for
leaks in the attic while you're there.

CY: I'd have to do some digging around, see if I can find
the attic access. Roof is flat, though.

Clean the gutters.

CY: At least one down spout is clogged.

Wash your sign out front and make it inviting.

CY:Hadn't thought of htat.

Clean the over, if you have one.

CY: We do have an electric over which doesn't get much use.
Mostly the range. I'll have to look, see if it needs
cleaning. Buy some over cleaning spray.

Replace lights with CFLs.

CY: Mostly fluorescents. Not all, though.

Check filters in HVAC. Clean coils.

CY: Filters twice a year. Clean coils, I did that last year.

Touch up paint.

CY: Good one. Have to look around.

Replace your old thermostat with a new, programmable one.

CY: That's been done.

Test your alarms.

CY: Not sure we have any.

Edge the driveway.

CY: We do have outside service that does the lawns.

Test the PA system part for hearing impaired and make sure
it's
working.

CY: Good reminder. We do have an amplifier box in the clerk
office for hard of hearing.

Check inspection dates on fire extinguishers.

CY: I would not have thought of that. I th ink we have as
ervice that does that. Not sure.

Grease the elbows on big contributors.

CY: For sure!

Create a punch list that memorializes all of the things that
need to
be done so that you become the most hated person in the
congregation.
Then send it to other congregations to make it an "official"
list. ;-)

CY: We do have a task list that's posted in the custodian
closet. But, you got a lot of ones I'd not thought. For
that, I thank you.


Okay, there are probably more but that'll keep you busy for
a while.

I'd have to look, see what's available. While I was in
church for an early meeting, I was seated right behind a man
with two boys, maybe 1 1/2 and 2 1/2. The younger one spent
most of his time sucking on the wooden top of the pew. I've
seen a LOT of babies mouthing the top of the pew. Makes me
wonder if I can find a bitter furniture polish, to keep em
from salivating all over the wood work. Might also be a good
idea for me to get some sanitizer wipes, and wipe all the
tops of the pews every couple weeks. Spread of disease and
all.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:18:00 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Lucky, the seats and backs are upholstered. But, I'm sure
that's a challenge.

Add that to you cleaning list. "Upholstery cleaning" A spray
foam,
brush scrubbing. shop vacuumed and allowed to dry.

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:24 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I'd have to look, see what's available. While I was in
church for an early meeting, I was seated right behind a man
with two boys, maybe 1 1/2 and 2 1/2. The younger one spent
most of his time sucking on the wooden top of the pew. I've
seen a LOT of babies mouthing the top of the pew. Makes me
wonder if I can find a bitter furniture polish, to keep em
from salivating all over the wood work. Might also be a good
idea for me to get some sanitizer wipes, and wipe all the
tops of the pews every couple weeks. Spread of disease and
all.

A second thought. Since the carpets will be steam cleaned, they can
also do the upholstery on the pews. Faster and easier than the foam
(smaller jobs) and scrubbing I mentioned.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Later this year, the church is having a "deep cleaning"
project. I went to the one last year. Couple guys pushing a
vacuum cleaner, and several crews of people washing windows.
The carpets all got vacuumed several times, and the windows
got wiped several times.

Ideally, I'd like to have a list of church cleaning list of
things to do. Things which are useful, and actually make the
building and grounds cleaner. A google search provided a
bunch of calendar dates for other churches cleaning days.
But no good old fashioned task list.

What do you all suggest?


The ordinary cleaning tasks should be pretty obvious. What I would be
most concerned about in a building used by large numbers of people are
sanitation issues. Clean the kitchen, top to bottom, with strong
detergent to remove grease followed by wipe-down with bleach for
sanitation. Make sanitary cleaning regular. Hot enough water for
washing eating utensils? Smoke alarm? Fire extinguisher? First aid
kits? Thermostat and thermometer in the fridge are good? Stored food
is dated, kept in secure containers?

Upholstered seating should be deep cleaned and treated with insecticide
(for lice, bed-bugs, etc.) Hate to bring up stuff like that, but
nowadays they are bigger issues than in the past. Regular pest control
for the entire building - just routine termite inspection, check for
insects in food areas and nurseries.

Flu season coming - areas used by children should get special attention,
due to little ones nibbling on stuff they shouldn't, crawling on dirty
floors, etc. If there is a nursery, wipe down cribs and toys regularly.
Check cribs, chairs, changing tables for security; cribs for dangerous
old features that can trap little ones. Same with banisters.

Check entire facility for slip/fall hazards - loose flooring or
carpeting, insecure railings/banisters, poor lighting, slippery flooring
that becomes dangerous if water is tracked in. Adequate, open emergency
exits and signs? Weather radio? Wouldn't hurt to have FD do a walk-through.

CO and smoke alarms with audible AND visual signals. Emergency lights
in case of power failure?

Look to better energy efficency! Like compact fluroscent lamps added
insulation etc.

Large buildings are energy piggies, you can make things nicer while
cutting operating expense

CFs last far longer than incandescent lamps saving time on future
repairs.

LED exit sig upgrades can save power and added summer AC load

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I'd have to look, see what's available. While I was in
church for an early meeting, I was seated right behind a man
with two boys, maybe 1 1/2 and 2 1/2. The younger one spent
most of his time sucking on the wooden top of the pew. I've
seen a LOT of babies mouthing the top of the pew. Makes me
wonder if I can find a bitter furniture polish, to keep em
from salivating all over the wood work. Might also be a good
idea for me to get some sanitizer wipes, and wipe all the
tops of the pews every couple weeks. Spread of disease and
all.


Sign at the three-foot level in a children's booksto "You bite it, you
bought it."

On Jul 19, 11:17*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
"PatM" wrote in message

...

Wash all of the toys in the playroom to get the lead off of
them.

CY: We do have a playroom. Yes, the toys should be taken
out, and probably power washed. And all the chairs, too.
I've noticed the primary room has a distinct odor. The
carpets do get steamed now and again. So, my next guess is
the chairs have picked up some sweat from squirmy kids.

If it's over 10 years old, then replace your smoke
detectors.

Even hard wired ones are detachable. Ionized detectors need period
replacement (as do sprinkler heads).


CY: I'm sure the building has smoke detectors, but I'm not
sure where. I'll have to look. They would be hard wired in,
if any.

Rake the mulch away from the siding to keep out ants, etc.

CY: Good idea. And put some ant baits in the kitchen.

Clean the heating/cooling ducts.

CY: The filters get changed twice a year. The HVAC equipment
is all in overhead lofts. I can't ask people to climb
ladders on such assignment. I've been up there many times,
but it's dangerous work.

If you use a baptismal or such, get the gunk out of it.

CY: Yes, that needs scrubbing. With some kind of soap that
produces no bubbles. I remember the one time they scurbbed
the baptismal font,a nd the next baptism, they had bubbles
on the water. NOt good!

Polish the brass, including door hardware.

CY: Yes, that's good. Darned little brass, all the metal
seems to be dull chrome.

Check for burned out light bulbs. *Readjust them if they are
off.

CY: I'm sure at least a few people wonder why I wander
around, looking up. It's not nose in the air, honest! I'm
looking for bulbs out.

Give the sound system the once-over to make sure it's
balanced, etc.

CY: Odd you should mention that. The sound in the gym is way
loud. I could not find any adjuster for it.

Clean the mikes.

CY: You are right.

Seal any cracks in the driveway.

CY: We could get caulk tubes of driveway stuff.

Come over to my house and seal the cracks there, too.

CY: Be about 4 PM, after the church project.

Touch up painting if there are aisles on the side and people
rub on
the walls.

CY: Yes, there are runners along the sides of the walls.
I'll have to look at t hat.

Put Stick-um in the bottom of the collection basket.

CY: So the money doesn't slide out. Brilliant.

Wash all vestments and linens, if applicable.

CY: We do use linen for the sacrament table. Yes, those
should be washed and dried.

Wash the OUTSIDE of the windows.

CY: Excellent. Yes, that's needed.

Check the insulation in your ceiling. *Make sure it's okay.
Check for
leaks in the attic while you're there.

CY: I'd have to do some digging around, see if I can find
the attic access. Roof is flat, though.

Clean the gutters.

CY: At least one down spout is clogged.

Wash your sign out front and make it inviting.

CY:Hadn't thought of htat.

Clean the over, if you have one.

CY: We do have an electric over which doesn't get much use.
Mostly the range. I'll have to look, see if it needs
cleaning. Buy some over cleaning spray.

Replace lights with CFLs.

CY: Mostly fluorescents. Not all, though.

Check filters in HVAC. *Clean coils.

CY: Filters twice a year. Clean coils, I did that last year.

Touch up paint.

CY: Good one. Have to look around.

Replace your old thermostat with a new, programmable one.

CY: That's been done.

Test your alarms.

CY: Not sure we have any.

If you have sprinklers, they have an alarm -- usually a bell.

You should set off a smoke detector and make sure they all go off.


Edge the driveway.

CY: We do have outside service that does the lawns.

Test the PA system part for hearing impaired and make sure
it's
working.

CY: Good reminder. We do have an amplifier box in the clerk
office for hard of hearing.

Check inspection dates on fire extinguishers.

CY: I would not have thought of that. I th ink we have as
ervice that does that. Not sure.

Grease the elbows on big contributors.

CY: For sure!

Create a punch list that memorializes all of the things that
need to
be done so that you become the most hated person in the
congregation.
Then send it to other congregations to make it an "official"
list. *;-)

CY: We do have a task list that's posted in the custodian
closet. But, you got a lot of ones I'd not thought. For
that, I thank you.

Okay, there are probably more but that'll keep you busy for
a while.

While you're there, maybe you can install a new bishop.

Buy a case of Fabreze for the seats.

Check the gap around doors/windows for air infiltration.

Put a brick on the drinking fountain button and let it run for a while
to clean it out since it probably doesn't get much use.

Put some vinegar in the coffee pot and get rid of the scale.

Make sure the doors on the dividers in the bathroom close and latch
right.

Replace the artificial flowers in the lady's room.

Check the OUTSIDE light bulbs.

Paint your building's street number on the curb in front of your
building.

Re-paint the blue on the handicapped parking spots.

Call the Fire Department and give them the tour so they know where
everything is in case of problem and they know the layout. Also have
them check your Burke Box and make sure the key works. Locks might
have changed in 10 years.

Also, check your first aid kit and make sure it's complete. Check
your defibrillator and see if there are any tests that need to be
performed.

Check the batteries on your emergency lighting (push the button and
see if they work).

If you are near a city, go buy a weather radio with an alarm on it and
install it in the church so that you have a warning if bad weather is
occurring. They are cheap. It is especially important if you are in
Tornado area, but IIRC you are in WNY so bad winter weather like
whiteout might be more of a concern.

Might be good to install a couple of rechargeable flashlights in case
they are needed.

Finally, check your keys and make sure that everyone who should have
one has one and that they all work.

Get someone up on the roof and make sure it's okay.

That'll keep you busy for a while. See you at 4:00.

If it's over 10 years old, then replace your smoke
detectors.

Even hard wired ones are detachable. Ionized detectors need
period
replacement (as do sprinkler heads).

CY: I was in the building much of yesterday. I'll admit, I'm
not even sure where they are.


You should set off a smoke detector and make sure they all
go off.

CY: That's likely to lead to red trucks and flashing lights.


While you're there, maybe you can install a new bishop.

CY: Back ordred, six week delay.

Buy a case of Fabreze for the seats.

CY: That's a thought. The primary (kids room) does have an
odor I've noticed. Didn't notice it yesterday, but then many
of the chairs were out in the hall.

Check the gap around doors/windows for air infiltration.

CY: Easier to do it the winter.

Put a brick on the drinking fountain button and let it run
for a while
to clean it out since it probably doesn't get much use.

CY: I bet you're right. PRobably a load of bacteria.

Put some vinegar in the coffee pot and get rid of the scale.

CY: You're thinking Lutheran. Mormons don't drink coffee or
tea.

Make sure the doors on the dividers in the bathroom close
and latch
right.

CY: Good one, we've had trouble with that.

Replace the artificial flowers in the lady's room.

CY: Or, take em out and hose em off.

Check the OUTSIDE light bulbs.

CY: Wh ich seldom get checked, I'm sure.

Paint your building's street number on the curb in front of
your
building.

CY: I hadn't thought of that.

Re-paint the blue on the handicapped parking spots.

CY: Another good idea.

Call the Fire Department and give them the tour so they know
where
everything is in case of problem and they know the layout.
Also have
them check your Burke Box and make sure the key works.
Locks might
have changed in 10 years.

CY: I am sure that's a good idea. We don't have a Knox box,
t hough.

Also, check your first aid kit and make sure it's complete.
Check
your defibrillator and see if there are any tests that need
to be
performed.

CY: We do have a first aid kit in the kitchen, which is
likely out of bandaids.

Check the batteries on your emergency lighting (push the
button and
see if they work).

CY: A couple months ago, we did have a power out. I was in
the mens room, and it gets incredible dark in there. About
two weeks later, all four bathrooms had power failure
lights. I'll test em, though.

If you are near a city, go buy a weather radio with an alarm
on it and
install it in the church so that you have a warning if bad
weather is
occurring. They are cheap. It is especially important if
you are in
Tornado area, but IIRC you are in WNY so bad winter weather
like
whiteout might be more of a concern.

CY: They have had to cancell church a couple times, but only
in winter. Either the roads are bad, or the parking lot is a
sheet of ice.

Might be good to install a couple of rechargeable
flashlights in case
they are needed.

CY: I suggested a couple flash lights to be kept in the
clerk office, but they didn't like that idea.

Finally, check your keys and make sure that everyone who
should have
one has one and that they all work.

CY: Believe me, there are far, far too many keys ou tthere.


Get someone up on the roof and make sure it's okay.

CY: Flat roof, which was redone about two years ago,
including sheets of styrofoam.

That'll keep you busy for a while. See you at 4:00.

CY: Thanks for the ideas.

On Jul 18, 12:18*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Later this year, the church is having a "deep cleaning"
project. I went to the one last year. Couple guys pushing a
vacuum cleaner, and several crews of people washing windows.
The carpets all got vacuumed several times, and the windows
got wiped several times.

Ideally, I'd like to have a list of church cleaning list of
things to do. Things which are useful, and actually make the
building and grounds cleaner. A google search provided a
bunch of calendar dates for other churches cleaning days.
But no good old fashioned task list.

What do you all suggest?

Wiping things down and the like is nice, and I particularly liked the
suggestion about thoroughly cleaning the nursery...probably should do
something about the kitchen(s) at the same time.

More importantly - at least in my mind - is the question of
environmental stewardship in the church's facility. Have an energy
audit done of the facility to see where you're wasting electricity,
gas, etc. on heating, cooling or lighting the building(s). Look for
ways to get air blowing through rooms instead of using air
conditioners. Encourage people to carpool to church.

Much more can be learned from the Interfaith Coalition on Energy,
including finding energy auditors who specialize in church facilities:
http://www.interfaithenergy.com/

On Jul 18, 12:18*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
What do you all suggest?


Did any one mention to clean the bats in your belfry?




Thomas

On Jul 20, 1:31�pm, Thomas wrote:
On Jul 18, 12:18�am, "Stormin Mormon"

wrote:
What do you all suggest?

Did any one mention to clean the bats in your belfry?



Thomas


get a energy audit where they pressurize your building looking for
energy leaks

might be good to upgrade change door locks so too many keys arent out.

some churches have touchpads that unlock doors and take a digital
image of the person entering.

check entire building for trip hazards detoriated walkways etc

Wiping things down and the like is nice, and I particularly
liked the
suggestion about thoroughly cleaning the nursery...probably
should do
something about the kitchen(s) at the same time.

CY: I susepct the nursery and primary are the major vectors
of germs.

More importantly - at least in my mind - is the question of
environmental stewardship in the church's facility.

CY: You're in luck. Christians are given stewardship of the
Earth.

Have an energy
audit done of the facility to see where you're wasting
electricity,
gas, etc. on heating, cooling or lighting the building(s).

CY: I'm all for spending money wisely.

Look for
ways to get air blowing through rooms instead of using air
conditioners. Encourage people to carpool to church.

CY: This last bit makes you sound like a tree hugging
liberal.

Much more can be learned from the Interfaith Coalition on
Energy,
including finding energy auditors who specialize in church
facilities:
http://www.interfaithenergy.com/

CY: Are they tree hugging liberals?

When they reach the age of accountability, we clean them in
the battistry.

--
Christopher A. Young
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"Thomas" wrote in message
...

Did any one mention to clean the bats in your belfry?




Thomas

get a energy audit where they pressurize your building
looking for
energy leaks

CY: Inflatabuilding?

might be good to upgrade change door locks so too many keys
arent out.

CY: That has to be done by request of the leadership. Might
happen if there is ever a problem.

some churches have touchpads that unlock doors and take a
digital
image of the person entering.

CY: Sounds neat.

check entire building for trip hazards detoriated walkways
etc

CY: That's a first rate idea.

On Jul 20, 11:48*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If it's over 10 years old, then replace your smoke
detectors.

Even hard wired ones are detachable. *Ionized detectors need
period
replacement (as do sprinkler heads).

CY: I was in the building much of yesterday. I'll admit, I'm
not even sure where they are.

You should set off a smoke detector and make sure they all
go off.

CY: That's likely to lead to red trucks and flashing lights.

It shouldn't if you push the test button. Besides, you're probably
not hard wired into the FD.


While you're there, maybe you can install a new bishop.

CY: Back ordred, six week delay.

Buy a case of Fabreze for the seats.

CY: That's a thought. The primary (kids room) does have an
odor I've noticed. Didn't notice it yesterday, but then many
of the chairs were out in the hall.

Check the gap around doors/windows for air infiltration.

CY: Easier to do it the winter.

Put a brick on the drinking fountain button and let it run
for a while
to clean it out since it probably doesn't get much use.

CY: I bet you're right. PRobably a load of bacteria.

Put some vinegar in the coffee pot and get rid of the scale.

CY: You're thinking Lutheran. Mormons don't drink coffee or
tea.

I thought Lutherans were more into Jello molds and fruit cocktails.

We're Catholics so we're not big into coffee either. It's more
whiskey and rye. Heck, we have to serve wine half way through Mass or
the Irish won't come.

BTW, I found a nearly suitable substitute for Postum. Plus I bought
some grains for roasting to see if I can make a good home brew.


Make sure the doors on the dividers in the bathroom close
and latch
right.

CY: Good one, we've had trouble with that.

Replace the artificial flowers in the lady's room.

CY: Or, take em out and hose em off.

Check the OUTSIDE light bulbs.

CY: Wh ich seldom get checked, I'm sure.

Paint your building's street number on the curb in front of
your
building.

CY: I hadn't thought of that.

Down south, they sometimes do that as fundraisers. I Boy Scout troop
or soccer team will invade a neighborhood and do it for a few bucks.
It's good when you're order pizza or need an ambulance.


Re-paint the blue on the handicapped parking spots.

CY: Another good idea.

Call the Fire Department and give them the tour so they know
where
everything is in case of problem and they know the layout.
Also have
them check your Burke Box and make sure the key works.
Locks might
have changed in 10 years.

No Burke Box? Maybe you should look into one if you FD uses them on
other buildings. They aren't very expensive and can save you a lot of
repairs.


CY: I am sure that's a good idea. We don't have a Knox box,
t hough.

Also, check your first aid kit and make sure it's complete.
Check
your defibrillator and see if there are any tests that need
to be
performed.

CY: We do have a first aid kit in the kitchen, which is
likely out of bandaids.

Check the batteries on your emergency lighting (push the
button and
see if they work).

CY: A couple months ago, we did have a power out. *I was in
the mens room, and it gets incredible dark in there. About
two weeks later, all four bathrooms had power failure
lights. I'll test em, though.

If you are near a city, go buy a weather radio with an alarm
on it and
install it in the church so that you have a warning if bad
weather is
occurring. *They are cheap. *It is especially important if
you are in
Tornado area, but IIRC you are in WNY so bad winter weather
like
whiteout might be more of a concern.

CY: They have had to cancell church a couple times, but only
in winter. Either the roads are bad, or the parking lot is a
sheet of ice.

Might be good to install a couple of rechargeable
flashlights in case
they are needed.

CY: I suggested a couple flash lights to be kept in the
clerk office, but they didn't like that idea.

Finally, check your keys and make sure that everyone who
should have
one has one and that they all work.

CY: Believe me, there are far, far too many keys ou tthere.

Get someone up on the roof and make sure it's okay.

CY: Flat roof, which was redone about two years ago,
including sheets of styrofoam.

That'll keep you busy for a while. *See you at 4:00.

CY: Thanks for the ideas.

On Jul 20, 7:47*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Wiping things down and the like is nice, and I particularly
liked the
suggestion about thoroughly cleaning the nursery...probably
should do
something about the kitchen(s) at the same time.

CY: I susepct the nursery and primary are the major vectors
of germs.

More importantly - at least in my mind - is the question of
environmental stewardship in the church's facility.

CY: You're in luck. Christians are given stewardship of the
Earth.

Have an energy
audit done of the facility to see where you're wasting
electricity,
gas, etc. on heating, cooling or lighting the building(s).

CY: I'm all for spending money wisely.

Look for
ways to get air blowing through rooms instead of using air
conditioners. Encourage people to carpool to church.

CY: This last bit makes you sound like a tree hugging
liberal.

Much more can be learned from the Interfaith Coalition on
Energy,
including finding energy auditors who specialize in church
facilities:http://www.interfaithenergy.com/

CY: Are they tree hugging liberals?

My wife works for a pretty big organization -- I don't know but I
would guess there are a couple of thousand employees and every one has
a computer. The computers are networked to include their satellite
offices. They boot to the network (I think). When they leave, the
restart them and let them partially boot and get to the screen that
asks for a altctldel continue. So every computer is on ALL the
time so that IT can update software, etc. at night via the network.
Too me, that seems like a huge waste of electricity. If they need to
update things, can't they have it every "wednesday" or something like
that? Wow.

Give the sound system the once-over to make sure it's
balanced, etc.

CY: Odd you should mention that. The sound in the gym is way
loud. I could not find any adjuster for it.


Check for an odd volume knob 5.5 to 6 feet up on the wall opposite the
stage. That's where ours is.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wash all vestments and linens, if applicable.

CY: We do use linen for the sacrament table. Yes, those should be washed and
dried. -- and spray starched and ironed. Even if it's to be folded. They
just look more crisp.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Get an orange oil product and do the wooden doors to the chapel and the
classroom doors. I also wipe down the wooden rail above the sisal with the
same stuff. You have a huge 'to do' list. Good luck getting the Bro's and
Sis's to do it all, though.

Thomas wrote:
On Jul 18, 12:18 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
What do you all suggest?


Did any one mention to clean the bats in your belfry?


My synagogue has Bat Mitzvahs.

Does that count?

PatM wrote:
On Jul 20, 7:47 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Wiping things down and the like is nice, and I particularly
liked the
suggestion about thoroughly cleaning the nursery...probably
should do
something about the kitchen(s) at the same time.

CY: I susepct the nursery and primary are the major vectors
of germs.

More importantly - at least in my mind - is the question of
environmental stewardship in the church's facility.

CY: You're in luck. Christians are given stewardship of the
Earth.

Have an energy
audit done of the facility to see where you're wasting
electricity,
gas, etc. on heating, cooling or lighting the building(s).

CY: I'm all for spending money wisely.

Look for
ways to get air blowing through rooms instead of using air
conditioners. Encourage people to carpool to church.

CY: This last bit makes you sound like a tree hugging
liberal.

Much more can be learned from the Interfaith Coalition on
Energy,
including finding energy auditors who specialize in church
facilities:http://www.interfaithenergy.com/

CY: Are they tree hugging liberals?

My wife works for a pretty big organization -- I don't know but I
would guess there are a couple of thousand employees and every one has
a computer. The computers are networked to include their satellite
offices. They boot to the network (I think). When they leave, the
restart them and let them partially boot and get to the screen that
asks for a altctldel continue. So every computer is on ALL the
time so that IT can update software, etc. at night via the network.
Too me, that seems like a huge waste of electricity. If they need to
update things, can't they have it every "wednesday" or something like
that? Wow.

My employers (a federal agency) do the same thing. I've pointed out to
them repeatedly that they are in violation of a presidential executive
order that says Thou Shalt Turn Computers Off When Not In Use. They
don't care, and basically have told me to shut up and sit down about it.
What can ya do? I turn mine off, and once in a while it takes a few
minutes extra to boot up while it plays catchup on patches, or slows
down when they are scanning it.

--
aem sends...

Give the sound system the once-over to make sure it's
balanced, etc.

CY: Odd you should mention that. The sound in the gym is way
loud. I could not find any adjuster for it.


Check for an odd volume knob 5.5 to 6 feet up on the wall
opposite the
stage. That's where ours is.

CY: We do have volume knobs in the foyers, and some other
rooms. Might be where you say. Thanks for the field report.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wash all vestments and linens, if applicable.

CY: We do use linen for the sacrament table.


Yes, those should be washed and
dried. -- and spray starched and ironed. Even if it's to be
folded. They
just look more crisp.

CY: I'll have to see if we can find anyone who can do that.
Not me, I'm sure.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Get an orange oil product and do the wooden doors to the
chapel and the
classroom doors. I also wipe down the wooden rail above the
sisal with the
same stuff. You have a huge 'to do' list. Good luck
getting the Bro's and
Sis's to do it all, though.

CY: Our typical church cleaning project lasts about two
hours. I need to make some kind of a game, an adventure, out
of it. I'm still working on that concept. Red team or blue
team or something.

my are you going to be busy, what have 3 shifts 24/7 for a week or
more to do all this?

when your done please come do my house it needs cleaned bad

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:26:30 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

my are you going to be busy, what have 3 shifts 24/7 for a week or
more to do all this?


I know some of them Mormons. A close group of people and they will get
the job dome as best as I tell.

when your done please come do my house it needs cleaned bad

Back east, try the Amish. Out west thing are different.

On Jul 22, 8:33*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:26:30 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

my are you going to be busy, what have 3 shifts 24/7 for a week or
more to do all this?

I know some of them Mormons. A close group of people and they will get
the job dome as best as I tell.

when your done please come do my house it needs cleaned bad

Back east, try the Amish. Out west thing are different.

I don't think the Amish worry about cleaning their churches ... oh,
wait, I don't think the Amish have churches.

Are there any Amish members in this NG who can confirm this??

When I wrote:
conditioners. Encourage people to carpool to church.
and
Much more can be learned from the Interfaith Coalition on Energy,

"Stormin Mormon" quipped:
CY: This last bit makes you sound like a tree hugging
liberal.
and
CY: Are they tree hugging liberals?

Aw, jeez, now you got me thinking I have to change the photo on the
pastor's page at our website, or at least put one on a page about
stewardship, where I'm hugging a tree...
:-D

On a serious note, maybe I am a tree-hugging liberal these days. I
just now the more theologically conservative I get, the more socially
liberal it makes me - i.e., working for environmental stewardship,
social justice, and equality for all people.

Which reminds me, pertinent to this group: reduce, reuse, recycle -
ReStore! (http://www.habitat.org/env/restores.aspx)

Saturday at 10 AM all right with you?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"bob haller" wrote in message
...
my are you going to be busy, what have 3 shifts 24/7 for a
week or
more to do all this?

when your done please come do my house it needs cleaned bad

Your mission is guaranteed failure.

* The liberal view of "environmental stewardship" means
winding the clock back on technology. Instead of motor cars
that emit carbon dioxide, liberals would have us in horse
carriages, so that we can dodge horse poop on the roads
instead.
* The liberal view of "social justice" ends up favoring one
group of people over another. Just as the nation used to be
highly racist favoring whites, now it's highly racist
favoring blacks and hispanics.
* The liberal view of "equality for all people" is neither
possible, nor desirable. First, it's not possible cause
people are born with different talents, and different levels
of ambition. Second, it's not desirable because the only way
to accomplish this is to reduce everyone to the lowest
level. For example, if Michelangelo had been told not to
paint the sistine chapel because it would hurt the other
painters feelings. If Bill Gates had been told not to invent
Windows computers, because it would hurt other programmers
feelings. If Thomas Edison had been told not to work on that
damn light bulb thing because it would hurt the other kids
feelings.

I wish you complete and total failure in your below stated
missions. I'd much rather have ambition, use of resources,
and excellence.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Kyle" wrote in message
...

Aw, jeez, now you got me thinking I have to change the photo
on the
pastor's page at our website, or at least put one on a page
about
stewardship, where I'm hugging a tree...
:-D

On a serious note, maybe I am a tree-hugging liberal these
days. I
just now the more theologically conservative I get, the more
socially
liberal it makes me - i.e., working for environmental
stewardship,
social justice, and equality for all people.