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I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were
damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC |
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In article .com, wrote:
Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? It's called an "end cut pliers" e.g. http://www.homaktools.com/062endcutpliers.htm If you need them to be absolutely flush, you can grind them down with an angle grinder after cutting them off. Depending on how much room you have to get tools in there, you might also be able to just saw them off flush with a reciprocating saw. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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On Jun 6, 2:20 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article .com, wrote: Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? It's called an "end cut pliers" e.g.http://www.homaktools.com/062endcutpliers.htm I just got an end cut plier and it seems to be able to cut off nail ends but not the screw ends. I think part of the reason is the tight space and I am on a ladder and hence not able to really leverage too much force to really clamp down. I wonder if a Dremel with a grinding disc would work or not. I saw a show they saw off a galvanized pipe with that - but that's a show and I don't know if it really works or not. MC |
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On Jun 6, 1:29?pm, wrote:
I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC Can you fit a 4 1/2" grinder in there? With a good cutting disc it would work. Screws are harder than nails. Good luck |
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:04:25 -0700, wrote:
On Jun 6, 2:20 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article .com, wrote: Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? It's called an "end cut pliers" e.g.http://www.homaktools.com/062endcutpliers.htm I just got an end cut plier and it seems to be able to cut off nail ends but not the screw ends. I think part of the reason is the tight space and I am on a ladder and hence not able to really leverage too much force to really clamp down. Another part might be that screws are a lot harder than nails. I wonder if a Dremel with a grinding disc would work or not. I saw a show they saw off a galvanized pipe with that - but that's a show and I don't know if it really works or not. I think those pipes are made from galvanized candy. Or they're pipes for doll houses. Or they show it when they start, and for 4 seconds in the middle, and when they're done. MC |
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:04:25 -0700, wrote:
I just got an end cut plier and it seems to be able to cut off nail ends but not the screw ends. I think part of the reason is the tight space and I am on a ladder and hence not able to really leverage too much force to really clamp down. Try a 6" Mini Hacksaw from the BORG Looks like this: http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/52...w--620071.aspx -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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On Jun 6, 1:29 pm, wrote:
I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Angle grinder is my tool of choice for the nails if there's access room. What sort of screws? If they're drywall screws you can grab them with pliers and bend them back and forth and they'll snap off, or you could give them a couple or three swats with a hammer in opposite directions - same result. R |
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On Jun 6, 3:36 pm, "
wrote: On Jun 6, 1:29?pm, wrote: I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC Can you fit a 4 1/2" grinder in there? With a good cutting disc it would work. Screws are harder than nails. Good luck- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's about the only solution other than an angle grinder which would get very heavy and awkward to use in close quarters. The 4 1/2 grinder would make quick work of the screws and the end nippers would do the nails or just use the grinder for both. Harry K |
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Around our house, we would use a small angle grinder.
Available at Harbor Freight for prolly $20-$30 Kate O|||||||O |
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(Doug Miller) wrote in
t: In article .com, wrote: Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? It's called an "end cut pliers" e.g. http://www.homaktools.com/062endcutpliers.htm If you need them to be absolutely flush, you can grind them down with an angle grinder after cutting them off. Depending on how much room you have to get tools in there, you might also be able to just saw them off flush with a reciprocating saw. If the screws are drywall screws they are probably hardened and will not cut. |
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Oren wrote in
: On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:04:25 -0700, wrote: I just got an end cut plier and it seems to be able to cut off nail ends but not the screw ends. I think part of the reason is the tight space and I am on a ladder and hence not able to really leverage too much force to really clamp down. Try a 6" Mini Hacksaw from the BORG Looks like this: http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/52...i-hacksaw--620 071.aspx -- Oren ..through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. Again, NG if drywall screws. |
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oups.com: On Jun 6, 2:20 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article .com, wrote: Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? It's called an "end cut pliers" e.g.http://www.homaktools.com/062endcutpliers.htm I just got an end cut plier and it seems to be able to cut off nail ends but not the screw ends. I think part of the reason is the tight space and I am on a ladder and hence not able to really leverage too much force to really clamp down. I wonder if a Dremel with a grinding disc would work or not. I saw a show they saw off a galvanized pipe with that - but that's a show and I don't know if it really works or not. MC Another vote for Dremel disks are brittle and shatter... Not sure if when you mentioned Dremel that you meant you would buy one. If you're gonna buy something choose: - Die grinder for your compressor if you have one or - 4 1/2" grinder or - RotoZip You'll get more bang for the buck usage out of the first two probably. |
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![]() "Clark" wrote in message ... wrote in oups.com: On Jun 6, 2:20 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article .com, wrote: Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? It's called an "end cut pliers" e.g.http://www.homaktools.com/062endcutpliers.htm I just got an end cut plier and it seems to be able to cut off nail ends but not the screw ends. I think part of the reason is the tight space and I am on a ladder and hence not able to really leverage too much force to really clamp down. I wonder if a Dremel with a grinding disc would work or not. I saw a show they saw off a galvanized pipe with that - but that's a show and I don't know if it really works or not. The Dremel cut-off disks are very fragile. Any side load at all will shatter the disk. You might make a few cuts but will spend more time putting on new disks than actually cutting... I use the heavy duty discs and have no problem. They last a long time if you use good technique. |
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:01:15 -0500, "Kate" wrote:
Around our house, we would use a small angle grinder. Available at Harbor Freight for prolly $20-$30 Get the 4 1/2 and not the 4". Hard to get disks for 4". (So why do they sell them?) Kate O|||||||O |
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![]() "Paul Franklin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 10:29:51 -0700, wrote: I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC The "standard" little cutoff disks that come with the dremel are indeed pretty much useless. But they also sell fiber reinforced disks and they are quite durable. I've cut screws and bolts and pipe with them easily. They are a little bigger in diameter than the others though, so you might have trouble fitting them in the space. But they do wear down pretty fast, so if you need to, you could dress them to smaller diameter with a brick or stone. HTH, Paul F. That would be my choice for tight places. Just take your time and dont try to force the cut. Another possibility would be to carefully mark the new board and drill or notch it to clear the screws. If you do that you might want to fill the notches or holes with caulking compound to eliminate any gaps or water traps. Don Young |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 6, 1:29?pm, wrote: I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC Can you fit a 4 1/2" grinder in there? With a good cutting disc it would work. Screws are harder than nails. Good luck I have about 1 1/2 inch of space so no luck with an angle grinder. Thanks. MC |
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![]() "RicodJour" wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 6, 1:29 pm, wrote: I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Angle grinder is my tool of choice for the nails if there's access room. What sort of screws? If they're drywall screws you can grab them with pliers and bend them back and forth and they'll snap off, or you could give them a couple or three swats with a hammer in opposite directions - same result. R They are not drywall screws, I think those are galvanized roofing screws. I am just trying to get them out of the way, if I hammer in opposite direction they will pop out the other end and tear up the flashing and asphalt cement on top of it, which means I will have to redo the roofing edge. MC |
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in
: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 6, 1:29?pm, wrote: I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC Can you fit a 4 1/2" grinder in there? With a good cutting disc it would work. Screws are harder than nails. Good luck I have about 1 1/2 inch of space so no luck with an angle grinder. Thanks. MC Oxyacetylene torch has a fine tip for tight places. No, guess not huh... :-) |
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Al Bundy wrote in
: "MiamiCuse" wrote in : wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 6, 1:29?pm, wrote: I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC Can you fit a 4 1/2" grinder in there? With a good cutting disc it would work. Screws are harder than nails. Good luck I have about 1 1/2 inch of space so no luck with an angle grinder. Thanks. MC Oxyacetylene torch has a fine tip for tight places. No, guess not huh... :-) Thermic lance? .....nope, another poor choice I suppose. |
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:55:28 -0400, "MiamiCuse"
wrote: "RicodJour" wrote in message What sort of screws? If they're drywall screws you can grab them with pliers and bend them back and forth and they'll snap off, or you could give them a couple or three swats with a hammer in opposite directions - same result. R They are not drywall screws, I think those are galvanized roofing screws. I am just trying to get them out of the way, if I hammer in opposite direction they will pop out the other end and tear up the flashing and asphalt cement on top of it, which means I will have to redo the roofing edge. He knows that. He meant left and right, or front and back, opposite directions from each other, not opposite direction as you just wrote, with no s. His is another way to bend them as in his previous clause. MC |
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![]() "MiamiCuse" wrote in message news:wdCdnfl5daU- They are not drywall screws, I think those are galvanized roofing screws. I am just trying to get them out of the way, if I hammer in opposite direction they will pop out the other end and tear up the flashing and asphalt cement on top of it, which means I will have to redo the roofing edge. Can you grab the heads of the screws with the cutter, but not cut them? Then grab them with the cutter and twist the whole cutter when you have a good grip. You may be able to unscrew them. You did try a screwdriver? :-) Bob |
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On Jun 7, 12:06 am, mm wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:55:28 -0400, "MiamiCuse" wrote: "RicodJour" wrote in message What sort of screws? If they're drywall screws you can grab them with pliers and bend them back and forth and they'll snap off, or you could give them a couple or three swats with a hammer in opposite directions - same result. R He knows that. He meant left and right, or front and back, opposite directions from each other, not opposite direction as you just wrote, with no s. His is another way to bend them as in his previous clause. MC Oh I see now. Well that does not work either. The hammer barely fits so most times I hit something else in the narrow channel before the nail or screw. I tried to wedge a flat head screwdriver against one screw then wack the screwdriver with it but it just "weasel" its way around the screw. I think I will try the dremel grinding disc next since I have a dremel (but no disc) if that does not work then I don't know what else I can do. Minor details always kill my project schedule. |
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On Jun 7, 12:07 am, "Bob F" wrote:
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message news:wdCdnfl5daU- They are not drywall screws, I think those are galvanized roofing screws. I am just trying to get them out of the way, if I hammer in opposite direction they will pop out the other end and tear up the flashing and asphalt cement on top of it, which means I will have to redo the roofing edge. Can you grab the heads of the screws with the cutter, but not cut them? Then grab them with the cutter and twist the whole cutter when you have a good grip. You may be able to unscrew them. You did try a screwdriver? :-) Bob The screw heads are protected from above under a layer of asphalt cement over some metal flashing and tar paper. I am trying to cut them off from below without disturbing what is above. MC |
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On Jun 6, 1:29 pm, wrote:
I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC OK after trying all kinds of solutions (thanks to everyone who helped out) I had success with the plier to remove some of the nails but the screws are hard. I am going to try a heavy duty dremel cut off disc next since I already have a dremel I just need to get some disc and see. If that does not work I can try a bigger and meaner plier but there may not be room to fit one of those in the tight space. So if all else fails, my plan is to just use the plier to "bend" the screws as much as I can, so instead of sticking out an inch and half they stick out 3/4 inch after I bend/twist or whatever. Now the question is, is it ok to nail the fascia board with say a 3/4" spacing above it from the roof drip? Note that the actual flashing still covers the fascia by several inches, it is just the top edge (1"-2" wide) of the fascia not touching the flashing from below. I can may be spray some expansive foam in the cavity along the whole length to seal it? Will that work? MC |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 7, 12:07 am, "Bob F" wrote: "MiamiCuse" wrote in message news:wdCdnfl5daU- They are not drywall screws, I think those are galvanized roofing screws. I am just trying to get them out of the way, if I hammer in opposite direction they will pop out the other end and tear up the flashing and asphalt cement on top of it, which means I will have to redo the roofing edge. Can you grab the heads of the screws with the cutter, but not cut them? Then grab them with the cutter and twist the whole cutter when you have a good grip. You may be able to unscrew them. You did try a screwdriver? :-) Bob The screw heads are protected from above under a layer of asphalt cement over some metal flashing and tar paper. I am trying to cut them off from below without disturbing what is above. Is this a situation where you can slip a hacksaw blade up behind the board and cut them? Bob |
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![]() wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 6, 1:29 pm, wrote: I am in the process of replacing some fascia boards that were damaged. These fascia boards are 1x8 and is nailed to another layer of 2x12 and they are nailed to the roof and soffit framing. I am only removing the outer layer of 1x8. There is a "drip" or a metal flashing that folds down and when they installed the flashing and asphalt cement roof they screwed the flashing down along the edges and nailed down in other spots. Now that I removed the fascia boards, I can see the ends of screws and nails every 4 inches or so sticking out. In order for me to install the new fascia boards, I need to get the screws and nail ends out of the way. Is there a way to address this without having to redo the flashing above? I really would like to avoid having to mess with it since it's fine. Is there a tool that would allow me to "snip" off the end of the nails and screws in a tight space? Thanks in advance, MC OK after trying all kinds of solutions (thanks to everyone who helped out) I had success with the plier to remove some of the nails but the screws are hard. I am going to try a heavy duty dremel cut off disc next since I already have a dremel I just need to get some disc and see. If that does not work I can try a bigger and meaner plier but there may not be room to fit one of those in the tight space. So if all else fails, my plan is to just use the plier to "bend" the screws as much as I can, so instead of sticking out an inch and half they stick out 3/4 inch after I bend/twist or whatever. Now the question is, is it ok to nail the fascia board with say a 3/4" spacing above it from the roof drip? Note that the actual flashing still covers the fascia by several inches, it is just the top edge (1"-2" wide) of the fascia not touching the flashing from below. I can may be spray some expansive foam in the cavity along the whole length to seal it? Will that work? MC Why not just drill or notch the fascia board to clear the screws? Don Young |
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