On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF


If it's not in a park, it should always be easy to sell.

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF

I have no feel for what values in your area are; but, the manufactured homes
here in Florida are appreciating in value.

"TLF" wrote in message
...
I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured on
a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the floor/walls,
siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air heat. I am just
hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard to resell? Do
these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone have firsthand
experience buying/selling these types of homes? Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF

"barbarow" wrote in message
news:glZqe.3441$9a1.155@trnddc01...
I have no feel for what values in your area are; but, the manufactured
homes
here in Florida are appreciating in value.


This particularly true of homes built to the post hurricane Andrew building
codes.
This regardless of park or not.
Charlie

"TLF" wrote in message

I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard?


That was true of the old trailers, not a modern manufactured house.

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF

We're in the process of buying a Silvercrest. On a permanent
foundation, it's considered real property (as in real estate) rather
than like a trailer, and will appreciate.

Silvercrest is one of the best. The home is only four years old. What
model is it?

Regardless, have a home inspection done, like you would for any other
house you'd want to buy.

Maxi

Email addy upon request.

maxinemovies wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:


I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF


We're in the process of buying a Silvercrest. On a permanent
foundation, it's considered real property (as in real estate) rather
than like a trailer, and will appreciate.

Silvercrest is one of the best. The home is only four years old. What
model is it?

Regardless, have a home inspection done, like you would for any other
house you'd want to buy.

Maxi

Email addy upon request.

I don't know the model but I have asked this of the manufacturer,
awaiting response. I gave them the SN so I would imagine they can tell
me everything I want to know. I do know it was built in their Oregon
plant and has 2x6 framed walls. I talked to the seller today and he said
it is anchored to the slab foundation and is considered real property,
but I see the listing agent calls it out as a mobile/doublewide.. maybe
something to do with WA classification laws. At any rate, this is on 5
(rural) acres that borders dry pasture on 2 sides and backs to 40 acres
of cedar timber on the opposite end. In a small town, 8 miles from a
larger one that has most everything needed..

Thanks all for your input!!
-T

I don't know the model but I have asked this of the manufacturer,
awaiting response. I gave them the SN so I would imagine they can tell
me everything I want to know. I do know it was built in their Oregon
plant and has 2x6 framed walls. I talked to the seller today and he said
it is anchored to the slab foundation and is considered real property,
but I see the listing agent calls it out as a mobile/doublewide.. maybe
something to do with WA classification laws. At any rate, this is on 5
(rural) acres that borders dry pasture on 2 sides and backs to 40 acres
of cedar timber on the opposite end. In a small town, 8 miles from a
larger one that has most everything needed..

Thanks all for your input!!

If it is a Mobile home, it should have a title just like a car. If it is a
modular home then it will not have a title.

-T

I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort



On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF

"Mort Guffman" wrote in message
...
I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort

The main problem is that manufactured homes don't appreciate in value. They
are percieved as being very negative by potential buyers, and their quality
is suspect. Therefore, the value drops like a rock, even if bolted on a
foundation.

Manufactured homes are one-half notch higher than trailer-trash homes.
You'd be better off renting.






On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:55:22 GMT, "Oscar_Lives"
wrote:


"Mort Guffman" wrote in message
.. .
I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort

The main problem is that manufactured homes don't appreciate in value. They
are percieved as being very negative by potential buyers, and their quality
is suspect. Therefore, the value drops like a rock, even if bolted on a
foundation.

Manufactured homes are one-half notch higher than trailer-trash homes.
You'd be better off renting.


Baloney. Where do you get your information from? I've been
researching manufactured homes for a couple of years and nothing could
be further from the truth.

Check out www.silvercrest.com and take the "factory tour." It's a
video of how they build. Our home will have 2 x 8 floor joists and 2 x
6 exterior walls. Typar wrap. We've bumped up the insulation. It's
going on a permanent foundation and WILL appreciate.

The bank is eager to give us a construction loan at a competitive
rate, which will turn into a mortgage later at less than 6%, the going
rate for conventional stick-built homes.

Manufactured homes aren't what they used to be. Not only are some
companies building real quality into the houses, but the general
perception in the public is improving dramatically, especially in more
rural areas.

And we're city folk, not country bumpkins who were raised in a trailer
park. We were both raised in the suburbs outside New York City, moved
into the city, then to Los Angeles. We've done our homework, and now
that we want to live out in the desert, we have every confidence that
Silvercrest is definitely the right decision for us.

Despite what you might think of manufactured homes, many people are
quite excited to have them available. They have beautiful floor plans
that can be tweaked and upgraded and most of the homes bear little
resemblance to earlier mobile homes.

Please get your facts straight.

Maxi

Email addy upon request.

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:06:52 -0700, TLF
wrote:

maxinemovies wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:


I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF


We're in the process of buying a Silvercrest. On a permanent
foundation, it's considered real property (as in real estate) rather
than like a trailer, and will appreciate.

Silvercrest is one of the best. The home is only four years old. What
model is it?

Regardless, have a home inspection done, like you would for any other
house you'd want to buy.

Maxi

Email addy upon request.

I don't know the model but I have asked this of the manufacturer,
awaiting response. I gave them the SN so I would imagine they can tell
me everything I want to know. I do know it was built in their Oregon
plant and has 2x6 framed walls. I talked to the seller today and he said
it is anchored to the slab foundation and is considered real property,
but I see the listing agent calls it out as a mobile/doublewide.. maybe
something to do with WA classification laws. At any rate, this is on 5
(rural) acres that borders dry pasture on 2 sides and backs to 40 acres
of cedar timber on the opposite end. In a small town, 8 miles from a
larger one that has most everything needed..

Thanks all for your input!!
-T

Pop on over to their website www.silvercrest.com and see if you can
find it there. I'm curious and would love to know what it is.

Listing agents around here, and even our banker, keep calling it a
mobile home, even though they know it's not, and admit that they're
doing it out of habit. Just having trouble keeping up with the latest
terminology. But they also know full well that a manufactured home on
a permanent foundation is real property and will appreciate.

The land sounds beautiful. Got pics on a web page somewhere?

Maxi

Email addy upon request.

On Sun 12 Jun 2005 10:58:50p, maxinemovies wrote in alt.home.repair:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:06:52 -0700, TLF
wrote:

maxinemovies wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:


I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5
acres) here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest
manufactured on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and
seems solid, the insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26
for the floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows,
forced air heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will
it be too hard to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like
I've heard? Anyone have firsthand experience buying/selling these
types of homes? Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF


We're in the process of buying a Silvercrest. On a permanent
foundation, it's considered real property (as in real estate) rather
than like a trailer, and will appreciate.

Silvercrest is one of the best. The home is only four years old. What
model is it?

Regardless, have a home inspection done, like you would for any other
house you'd want to buy.

Maxi

Email addy upon request.

I don't know the model but I have asked this of the manufacturer,
awaiting response. I gave them the SN so I would imagine they can tell
me everything I want to know. I do know it was built in their Oregon
plant and has 2x6 framed walls. I talked to the seller today and he said
it is anchored to the slab foundation and is considered real property,
but I see the listing agent calls it out as a mobile/doublewide.. maybe
something to do with WA classification laws. At any rate, this is on 5
(rural) acres that borders dry pasture on 2 sides and backs to 40 acres
of cedar timber on the opposite end. In a small town, 8 miles from a
larger one that has most everything needed..

Thanks all for your input!!
-T

Pop on over to their website www.silvercrest.com and see if you can
find it there. I'm curious and would love to know what it is.

Listing agents around here, and even our banker, keep calling it a
mobile home, even though they know it's not, and admit that they're
doing it out of habit. Just having trouble keeping up with the latest
terminology. But they also know full well that a manufactured home on
a permanent foundation is real property and will appreciate.

The land sounds beautiful. Got pics on a web page somewhere?

Manufactured homes can be taken even another step further and ordered and
installed as a modular home. A modular version has bumped up construction
and is also ground set as a manufactured home can be. The cost for the
same home model is slightly higher, but the payoff is that they usually
qualify for slightly better mortgage rates.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

A trailer or manufactured home is no match in value in the long run for CBS
(concrete block/stucco) houses. Unfortunately there are people who will try
to put it on par with CBS homes.

If you can't afford CBS, likely now with current housing costs, I would go
for it, a manufactured home is something that you can adapt to, but they are
sometimes difficult to sell and you definitely won't see much of an
appreciation of value outside of actual land appraisal itself. Assume that
you'll lose money in the manufactured home in the long run, but the property
might end up being worth substantially more than the house.


"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF


If it's not in a park, it should always be easy to sell.

Pop on over to their website www.silvercrest.com and see if you can
find it there. I'm curious and would love to know what it is.

Listing agents around here, and even our banker, keep calling it a
mobile home, even though they know it's not, and admit that they're
doing it out of habit. Just having trouble keeping up with the latest
terminology. But they also know full well that a manufactured home on
a permanent foundation is real property and will appreciate.

The land sounds beautiful. Got pics on a web page somewhere?

Maxi

Email addy upon request.


MAXI -

email me at snowripper_at_gmail_dot_com and I will send some photos, I
am curious what model your home is.

Thx
T

Nathan Gant wrote:
A trailer or manufactured home is no match in value in the long run for CBS
(concrete block/stucco) houses. Unfortunately there are people who will try
to put it on par with CBS homes.

If you can't afford CBS, likely now with current housing costs, I would go
for it, a manufactured home is something that you can adapt to, but they are
sometimes difficult to sell and you definitely won't see much of an
appreciation of value outside of actual land appraisal itself. Assume that
you'll lose money in the manufactured home in the long run, but the property
might end up being worth substantially more than the house.


"Gene" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:


I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF


If it's not in a park, it should always be easy to sell.





A home is going up across the street from me now. It has poured
basement walls, and they brough in the main home parts in pieces. The
home body in 2 parts, and then a 2 part roof, and 1 2nd floor extended
window. They build the garage on the spot. And not they are bricking
the thing up.

I was disappointed to see this thing going up when they started because
I though it was going to be some rinky dink elcheapo job. I'm pretty
impressed at this point and wonder if my own home was build in this
fashion, though I doubt it due to its construction.

Is this a manufactured home I was looking at?

--
Respectfully,


CL Gilbert

On Mon 13 Jun 2005 10:52:33a, CL (dnoyeB) Gilbert wrote in
alt.home.repair:

Nathan Gant wrote:
A trailer or manufactured home is no match in value in the long run for
CBS (concrete block/stucco) houses. Unfortunately there are people who
will try to put it on par with CBS homes.

If you can't afford CBS, likely now with current housing costs, I would
go for it, a manufactured home is something that you can adapt to, but
they are sometimes difficult to sell and you definitely won't see much
of an appreciation of value outside of actual land appraisal itself.
Assume that you'll lose money in the manufactured home in the long run,
but the property might end up being worth substantially more than the
house.


"Gene" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:


I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5
acres) here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest
manufactured on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and
seems solid, the insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26
for the floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows,
forced air heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will
it be too hard to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like
I've heard? Anyone have firsthand experience buying/selling these
types of homes? Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF


If it's not in a park, it should always be easy to sell.





A home is going up across the street from me now. It has poured
basement walls, and they brough in the main home parts in pieces. The
home body in 2 parts, and then a 2 part roof, and 1 2nd floor extended
window. They build the garage on the spot. And not they are bricking
the thing up.

I was disappointed to see this thing going up when they started because
I though it was going to be some rinky dink elcheapo job. I'm pretty
impressed at this point and wonder if my own home was build in this
fashion, though I doubt it due to its construction.

Is this a manufactured home I was looking at?


It's more likely a modular home. There are both similarities and
differences. The following link gives a good explanation of both:

http://www.wickmarshfield.com/HomeSearch/MMCompared.htm

--
Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

I had shopped for existing homes, both stick built and manufactured,
and all realtors I spoke with said manufactured homes on permanent
foundations, in this area, appreciate comparably to stick built. We
happened across five very private acres and couldn't resist. Last
year I put a new Silvercrest on five acres outside of Yelm, WA. I put
it on a stem wall foundation; the personal property title was
eliminated after the final inspection. My research found that
Silvercrest was one of the best in this part of the country. I'd do
it again in a heartbeat.

I upgraded to a 6:12 roof, Hardie lap siding all the way around,
Hardie shakes on the gables, and I built a gable roof attached deck on
the front. From the outside, nobody knows it's a manufactured home.
The wood stove installer, the satellite tv installer, and furniture
and appliance delivery people have all been inside and didn't know it
was manufactured till I told them.

There are some telltale signs if you know what to look for. For
instance, the interior marriage walls are six inches. This may or may
not be obvious, depending on your floor plan. All the sinks plumbing
comes up through the floor at the back of the cabinets, rather than
out of the wall. There won't be an attic access hole unless the
previous owner put one in-they're not required by HUD. That was one
detail I missed during the purchase process. Kinda silly, I think.
While they were setting up my house, four different contractors needed
access to the attic. The first contractor cut the hole at a location
of my approval, and I went ahead and trimmed it out.

If you're a hard core DIYer, there are a few idiosyncracies to be
aware of. Manufactured homes are inspected by L&I at the factory
during the construction process, and L&I inspects all remodeling,
changes, and additions to the home, rather than the local building
department. If you live in Pierce or King county, this can be quite
an advantage as you won't have to deal with those county building
departments. When you go to the L&I office to pull a permit, the
first thing they will ask for are the D.A.P.I.A. drawings. D.A.P.I.A.
drawings (I don't remember what words DAPIA represents) are the
manufacturer's engineered drawings for your home. Drawings are for
new construction at the factory and for most repairs and remodels once
the house is installed. The factory field rep told me if they didn't
have them available in house, they could have them in 24 hours from an
engineering firm out of Chicago. L&I has a pamphlet available that
tells all about their responsibilities and a list of repairs, fixes,
and remodels that need a permit.

My house had a couple rafters that twisted and bowed. The factory
sent out an independent contractor to do the repair. He had to have
the drawings in hand to do the work. I changed out a bathroom window
I didn't like (I put in a larger one); I had no problem getting the
D.A.P.I.A. drawing from the factory. The deck I built was a peculiar
process. Basically, I built a dormer on the house for which I
obtained a drawing and had inspected by L&I. The rest of the deck was
freestanding and was inspected by Thurston County building department.
There is a correct method for tying together the dormer roof and deck
gable roof for a seamless looking roof line.

All wall studs are 16 in. O.C. except for the 6 inch marriage line
wall I mentioned earlier. You'll find that wall has extra studs and
blocking.

One thing I don't like but have to live with is that the floor
insulation is blown in. Manufactured homes have a fabric belly pan,
and that holds in the insulation. So, to get to in-floor plumbing or
wiring, or whatever, I have to slice the fabric, salvage the
insulation, do my work, put the insulation back in, and seal up the
slice with a special belly pan tape. There are a few tricks to make
the process easier, but it's just a bit more hassle than removing and
replacing batts.

Manufacturers do use some proprietary materials. My common living
areas have 9 1/2 foot ceilings with 7 1/2 inch crown moulding.
Imagine my surprise to find out the crown was made of styrofoam. Once
installed and painted, you'd never know. I was able to scrounge a
couple sticks from the factory service team. I've never seen the
stuff retail. The exterior trim around doors, windows, and corners,
and the fascia, are 5/4 O.S.B. with a wood grain face. White wood is
a good substitute as long as it's not too close to the O.S.B. so that
the differences would be glaringly obvious.

Hope you enjoy your new home,
Steve






On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF

"maxinemovies" email on wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:55:22 GMT, "Oscar_Lives"
wrote:


"Mort Guffman" wrote in message
. ..
I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort

The main problem is that manufactured homes don't appreciate in value.
They
are percieved as being very negative by potential buyers, and their
quality
is suspect. Therefore, the value drops like a rock, even if bolted on a
foundation.

Manufactured homes are one-half notch higher than trailer-trash homes.
You'd be better off renting.


Baloney. Where do you get your information from? I've been
researching manufactured homes for a couple of years and nothing could
be further from the truth.

Check out www.silvercrest.com and take the "factory tour." It's a
video of how they build. Our home will have 2 x 8 floor joists and 2 x
6 exterior walls. Typar wrap. We've bumped up the insulation. It's
going on a permanent foundation and WILL appreciate.

The bank is eager to give us a construction loan at a competitive
rate, which will turn into a mortgage later at less than 6%, the going
rate for conventional stick-built homes.

Manufactured homes aren't what they used to be. Not only are some
companies building real quality into the houses, but the general
perception in the public is improving dramatically, especially in more
rural areas.

And we're city folk, not country bumpkins who were raised in a trailer
park. We were both raised in the suburbs outside New York City, moved
into the city, then to Los Angeles. We've done our homework, and now
that we want to live out in the desert, we have every confidence that
Silvercrest is definitely the right decision for us.

Despite what you might think of manufactured homes, many people are
quite excited to have them available. They have beautiful floor plans
that can be tweaked and upgraded and most of the homes bear little
resemblance to earlier mobile homes.

Please get your facts straight.

Maxi

Sounds like the salesman did a number on your independent thinking.

Baloney. Where do you get your information from? I've been
researching manufactured homes for a couple of years and nothing could
be further from the truth.


face it, dude

no matter whether you call it "manufactured home", "mobile home", "modular
home" or whatever.......

IT'S A TRAILER

you can't polish a turd!

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:40:19 GMT, "Oscar_Lives"
wrote:


"maxinemovies" email on wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:55:22 GMT, "Oscar_Lives"
wrote:


"Mort Guffman" wrote in message
...
I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort

The main problem is that manufactured homes don't appreciate in value.
They
are percieved as being very negative by potential buyers, and their
quality
is suspect. Therefore, the value drops like a rock, even if bolted on a
foundation.

Manufactured homes are one-half notch higher than trailer-trash homes.
You'd be better off renting.


Baloney. Where do you get your information from? I've been
researching manufactured homes for a couple of years and nothing could
be further from the truth.

Check out www.silvercrest.com and take the "factory tour." It's a
video of how they build. Our home will have 2 x 8 floor joists and 2 x
6 exterior walls. Typar wrap. We've bumped up the insulation. It's
going on a permanent foundation and WILL appreciate.

The bank is eager to give us a construction loan at a competitive
rate, which will turn into a mortgage later at less than 6%, the going
rate for conventional stick-built homes.

Manufactured homes aren't what they used to be. Not only are some
companies building real quality into the houses, but the general
perception in the public is improving dramatically, especially in more
rural areas.

And we're city folk, not country bumpkins who were raised in a trailer
park. We were both raised in the suburbs outside New York City, moved
into the city, then to Los Angeles. We've done our homework, and now
that we want to live out in the desert, we have every confidence that
Silvercrest is definitely the right decision for us.

Despite what you might think of manufactured homes, many people are
quite excited to have them available. They have beautiful floor plans
that can be tweaked and upgraded and most of the homes bear little
resemblance to earlier mobile homes.

Please get your facts straight.

Maxi

Sounds like the salesman did a number on your independent thinking.


I never even talked to a salesman until I had thoroughly researched
everything and we decided that this was the way to go. Then we
researched sales people to find the one we wanted to work with. She's
got an easy job with us because she didn't need to "sell" us on the
idea of a manufactured home. We knew what we wanted and how we wanted
it done.

My independent thinking is fine, thanks.

What research did you do to bring you to the conclusion that you came
to about manufactured homes?

Maxi

Email addy upon request.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:48:23 -0400, "cowboy" wrote:

Baloney. Where do you get your information from? I've been
researching manufactured homes for a couple of years and nothing could
be further from the truth.


face it, dude

no matter whether you call it "manufactured home", "mobile home", "modular
home" or whatever.......

IT'S A TRAILER

you can't polish a turd!

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!


LOL, this turd polishes up real well, thanks.

Maxi

Email addy upon request.

"maxinemovies" email on wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:40:19 GMT, "Oscar_Lives"
wrote:


"maxinemovies" email on wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:55:22 GMT, "Oscar_Lives"
wrote:


"Mort Guffman" wrote in message
m...
I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort

The main problem is that manufactured homes don't appreciate in value.
They
are percieved as being very negative by potential buyers, and their
quality
is suspect. Therefore, the value drops like a rock, even if bolted on a
foundation.

Manufactured homes are one-half notch higher than trailer-trash homes.
You'd be better off renting.


Baloney. Where do you get your information from? I've been
researching manufactured homes for a couple of years and nothing could
be further from the truth.

Check out www.silvercrest.com and take the "factory tour." It's a
video of how they build. Our home will have 2 x 8 floor joists and 2 x
6 exterior walls. Typar wrap. We've bumped up the insulation. It's
going on a permanent foundation and WILL appreciate.

The bank is eager to give us a construction loan at a competitive
rate, which will turn into a mortgage later at less than 6%, the going
rate for conventional stick-built homes.

Manufactured homes aren't what they used to be. Not only are some
companies building real quality into the houses, but the general
perception in the public is improving dramatically, especially in more
rural areas.

And we're city folk, not country bumpkins who were raised in a trailer
park. We were both raised in the suburbs outside New York City, moved
into the city, then to Los Angeles. We've done our homework, and now
that we want to live out in the desert, we have every confidence that
Silvercrest is definitely the right decision for us.

Despite what you might think of manufactured homes, many people are
quite excited to have them available. They have beautiful floor plans
that can be tweaked and upgraded and most of the homes bear little
resemblance to earlier mobile homes.

Please get your facts straight.

Maxi

Sounds like the salesman did a number on your independent thinking.


I never even talked to a salesman until I had thoroughly researched
everything and we decided that this was the way to go. Then we
researched sales people to find the one we wanted to work with. She's
got an easy job with us because she didn't need to "sell" us on the
idea of a manufactured home. We knew what we wanted and how we wanted
it done.

My independent thinking is fine, thanks.

What research did you do to bring you to the conclusion that you came
to about manufactured homes?

Maxi



Common knowledge. Trailer homes suck. Manufactured homes are same as
trailers. Ask any realtor. They don't sell and they don't appreciate.

People don't want 'em.

"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message news:...

"Mort Guffman" wrote in message
...
I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort

The main problem is that manufactured homes don't appreciate in value.
They are percieved as being very negative by potential buyers, and their
quality is suspect. Therefore, the value drops like a rock, even if
bolted on a foundation.

Manufactured homes are one-half notch higher than trailer-trash homes.
You'd be better off renting.






On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF

"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message news:...

"Mort Guffman" wrote in message
...
I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort

The main problem is that manufactured homes don't appreciate in value.
They are percieved as being very negative by potential buyers, and their
quality is suspect. Therefore, the value drops like a rock, even if
bolted on a foundation.

Manufactured homes are one-half notch higher than trailer-trash homes.
You'd be better off renting.






On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:09:02 -0700, TLF
wrote:

I am considering making an offer on a great piece of property (5 acres)
here in WA. The home is a 2001 2/2, 1100 sqft, silvercrest manufactured
on a slab foundation. Looks new from the outside and seems solid, the
insulation ratings are around 30 for the roof and 26 for the
floor/walls, siding is wood, roof is comp, vinyl windows, forced air
heat. I am just hesitant since it's a manufactured.. Will it be too hard
to resell? Do these homes actually depreciate, like I've heard? Anyone
have firsthand experience buying/selling these types of homes?
Appreciate any feedback.

Thx!
TLF

"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message news:...

"maxinemovies" email on wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:55:22 GMT, "Oscar_Lives"
wrote:


"Mort Guffman" wrote in message
...
I have heard that it costs more to finance these homes and to insure
them. I would check these two items out first.

A friend was going to have one put on his property. The homes are
nice. Well built and configurable to your liking. He liked the quality
and the house a lot, but the interest rate and the homeowner's
insurance made building a regular home a better choice for him. He
lives near Tampa.

Mort

The main problem is that manufactured homes don't appreciate in value.
They
are percieved as being very negative by potential buyers, and their
quality
is suspect. Therefore, the value drops like a rock, even if bolted on a
foundation.

Manufactured homes are one-half notch higher than trailer-trash homes.
You'd be better off renting.


Baloney. Where do you get your information from? I've been
researching manufactured homes for a couple of years and nothing could
be further from the truth.

Check out www.silvercrest.com and take the "factory tour." It's a
video of how they build. Our home will have 2 x 8 floor joists and 2 x
6 exterior walls. Typar wrap. We've bumped up the insulation. It's
going on a permanent foundation and WILL appreciate.

The bank is eager to give us a construction loan at a competitive
rate, which will turn into a mortgage later at less than 6%, the going
rate for conventional stick-built homes.

Manufactured homes aren't what they used to be. Not only are some
companies building real quality into the houses, but the general
perception in the public is improving dramatically, especially in more
rural areas.

And we're city folk, not country bumpkins who were raised in a trailer
park. We were both raised in the suburbs outside New York City, moved
into the city, then to Los Angeles. We've done our homework, and now
that we want to live out in the desert, we have every confidence that
Silvercrest is definitely the right decision for us.

Despite what you might think of manufactured homes, many people are
quite excited to have them available. They have beautiful floor plans
that can be tweaked and upgraded and most of the homes bear little
resemblance to earlier mobile homes.

Please get your facts straight.

Maxi

Sounds like the salesman did a number on your independent thinking.

In article . net,
says...


If it is a Mobile home, it should have a title just like a car. If it is a
modular home then it will not have a title.

This was true of older mobile homes, back when they really were
considered mobile. But it is now quite common to eliminate the title
on a permanently-installed manufactured home, so it becomes just like
any other improvement on the property.

Washington State has even made it illegal to discriminate against
approved manufactured homes in zoning -- cities have to zone them
essentially the same as any other single-family residence.

--
is Joshua Putnam
http://www.phred.org/~josh/
Updated Bicycle Touring Books List:
http://www.phred.org/~josh/bike/tourbooks.html

In article ,
says...
I had shopped for existing homes, both stick built and manufactured,
and all realtors I spoke with said manufactured homes on permanent
foundations, in this area, appreciate comparably to stick built.

Yes, things definitely have changed -- better manufactured homes
built within the last 10 years or so are built to some fairly tough
standards, better than stick-built building codes in some parts of
the country. If you can avoid the really obvious mobile-home
appearance (low roof, cheap skirting, etc.), they can appreciate like
stick-built homes.

Manufacturers do use some proprietary materials. My common living
areas have 9 1/2 foot ceilings with 7 1/2 inch crown moulding.
Imagine my surprise to find out the crown was made of styrofoam. Once
installed and painted, you'd never know. I was able to scrounge a
couple sticks from the factory service team. I've never seen the
stuff retail.

A professional building materials supplier will be able to get foam
moldings and trim. It's actually a relatively established product, a
lot of stick-built homes use foam moldings inside and out, even some
fairly high-dollar homes. I've seen it in homes over $300/square
foot construction cost.

--
is Joshua Putnam
http://www.phred.org/~josh/
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html

"Joshua Putnam" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...


If it is a Mobile home, it should have a title just like a car. If it
is a
modular home then it will not have a title.

This was true of older mobile homes, back when they really were
considered mobile. But it is now quite common to eliminate the title
on a permanently-installed manufactured home, so it becomes just like
any other improvement on the property.

Washington State has even made it illegal to discriminate against
approved manufactured homes in zoning -- cities have to zone them
essentially the same as any other single-family residence.


That was the point I was trying to make. Several years ago I was talking to
some contractors that were getting into the modular homes. From what they
said from a visit to a manufactor there were two production lines , one for
mobile homes and one for modular homes. They were made almost the same.
One had a title and it was called a mobile home and the other line did not
have a title to it and was called a mudular home. The town and county I
live in will not allow mobile homes in some areas. They will allow the
modular homes. I can not tell the differance just by looking at them. Some
of the modular homes still look like the mobile homes to me. I hate to
bring it up but it is like Bill Clinton's sex. It may not be sex as he
understands it.

Oscar,

Get real and lose your old prejudices. I work on HVAC systems in
houses, manufactured homes and mobile homes. The new manufactured
homes are nothing like the old trailers. Yes, they still make cheap
mobile homes. But the new manufactured homes can be VERY nice. Just
because you are prejudiced against all manufactured homes, does not
mean the whole world agrees with you. I live in a site built house,
but there are a lot of manufactured homes I would live in. Some You
couldn't tell the differences between the site built and manufactured
homes.

Stretch